Fred Mils from another channel, basically composed a juvenile, nasty, hateful hit piece on this project, so thank you very much for creating a more balanced and honest video, no matter how well it goes, time it takes and materialises. At least you just presented the facts and in a positive sense too, because that's what is mature and expected in a fair and balanced report about anything. Many of us were starting to think that British people just simply love to put down and demean everything and anything about Greeks and Greece, but you have proven otherwise. As someone involved in architecture and developments I am going to recommend you to everyone I know and hope your channel grows and succeeds. All the best!
Athens as a whole will be upgraded. That's what it's about. There are not many cities on earth that 1. is at the sea with a wonderful coastline 2. has mountains surrounding it 3. has the closest national park of Europe to it 4. has the ability to be within 1 hour to atleast 10 incredible islands, like Hydra, Spetses from one island chain as an example, or to some of the closer laying Cycladic islands to Athens like Syros. A truly incredible thing So. For Athens to have its incredible coastline area to be further upgraded with one of the largest urban parks on earth is a big big plus And not just that. Athens left and right receives upgrades. It's a changing city. Im sure Hellinikon project will only ben an incentive for more great projects of the future to come
The first buildings are almost done, the highway that goes through rn is being turned into s tunnel, also almost done, the base of the marina tower is set, all is going well till now🙏
As a Greek citizen I am very proud of this project. However our experience from Thessaloniki Metro that is still pending after almost 15 years now and the very dangerous road Patras-Pyrgos that we lost so many people there from traffic accidents and decided to start the previous year, I will be very amazed if this project will be finished in 2028. In any case good luck to this project.
@@dionysisapostolopoulos8552 You miss some important details, like Greeks often do. Somehow they have a habit of being extremely nit picky about what being educated means. Sorry. But it's true. HOW in the world would a Greek not just realise there were 300.000 archaeological historical artifacts found and whole sections of ancient city which the workers came across, which strongly delayed the project? And yes the project has been in production for 10 years when we talk about actual production. But the problem is also a blessing. The archaeological institutes in Greece and archaeology by itself is strongly anchored within law. So even a billion dollar project can be slowed by this. Also. Then to do with things in court regarding the archaeology is really another time consuming part. and lastly. Have you seen how many tunnel and highway projects have been completed in Greece? There are 2000 tunnels in Greece going through mountains and what not. The problem is not cutting through stone. It was the Archaeology and then dealing with this that was the slow part. I think the projects above ground (mostly) at Hellinikon will be much easier in regards to these elements. Next time. Like I would tell every Greek. Before you say something, just educate yourself by researching extremely easy to find answers. Even a child of 4 can do it and you didn.t And no. You didn't or else you would have either expressed this already, either in your main comment or in your follow up reply.
My father is an architect working on the project. Specifically on the university of Nicosia that is being build there. I am very excited to see this project come to life even tho we would probably still have to wait at least 15 more years for the project to be fully completed
@@issith7340 Metro Sub Way in Thessaloniki... it's been developing for 25+ years (which means they closed really important central roads inside the city)... it has become an inside joke for Greeks... supposedly it should open next year, but it was supposed to end somewhere around 2018 I think... before that it had a deadline of 2013.. so 🤷♂️... oh don't get me started with football stadiums as well...
@@jasonb97 can’t destroy city’s history for the metro. Very significant archeological inventions delayed the metro. It happens in ancient places. Look at Rome’s metro history, and speak again
@@issith7340 Trust me, I live in this city... the main problem was always what to do with the ancient artifacts they found... the delay was always because the archeologists wanted to do NOTHING and just leave them as they are... the problem was the lack of founding as well, but whenever it was supported to be completed, the archeologists went ballistic and sued the engineering company and the state... even after the court said to move the artifacts safely in a different place, the archeologists tried to stop the progress by rioting outside the stations and closing major roads in the city (Thessaloniki has already shitty trafficking)... to end my point... I'm an adult... haven't seen this city without a construction site yet...
athens is a city with much potential...is very famous through the world for its history,is well located by the sea, has nice islands off the coast,has nice landscape etc... but unfortunately is populated by tons of LEFTIST loosers that everyday complain but when something is being improved they disagree telling absurdities...i hope athens will be upgraded and will take again the role it had in the past...the leading place for architecture.
I hope you can join us. This is a public place open to all. As for the 50 years, you are massively wrong. The project is ahead of plan and very well funded through public and government investment
Πρέπει νά είμαστε επιφυλακτικοί , με τέτοια φαραωνικα μεγαλεπήβολα έργα , γιατί υπάρχει κίνδυνος , για μεγάλο φαγοπότι !!! Μεγάλο εργολάβοι , μεγάλο μηχανικοί , μεγάλο αρχιτέκτονες , μεγαλοϊδιοκτήτες , άντε ΚΑΛΉ ΌΡΕΞΗ !!!!!!😂
Το όλο έργο είναι ιδιωτική επένδυση, που σημαίνει, ότι δεν παίζεται δημόσιο χρήμα. Ο ιδιώτης δεν νομίζω να ξοδέψει αλόγιστα τα λεφτά του. Το ότι όμως θα ξοδευτούν πολλά χρήματα και θα υπάρξουν πολλές και καλοπληρωμένες δουλειές είναι σίγουρο.
Will they at least plant a huge green park as well??? As is Athens wouldn't have more than enough buildings and empty flats that could offer space for living. What is missing are parks!!! How amazing would be a huge green lung next to the sea? Instead they build more streets and asphalt. Also tourists love mature and do not come to Greece to go shopping. For me it's a huge failure and proof that the main motivation is again money.
Sooo they build a playground for foreign millionaires that looks like any other modern city, full of skyscrapers, steel, glass, etc ruining the panorama of a culturally rich city. I think it's great that it's smart and they make parks, but why not build max 90 m tall and Greek style, traditional design? Oh yeah, Dubai-man gives the money, so they need the world to be Dubaiized, so they can buy all of these luxury apartments and villas and congratulate each other in the casinos, while Greek people and turists interested in Greek culture can watch history disappear.
You will change your mind in 4 years, meanwhile stop by to see the magnificent project evolve. A bit of history, perhaps you can read about the number of naysayers when Pericles and Phedias were building the Parthenon. Now we admire it and study its art and architecture. Give it a break, start your judgement upon completion!
An ancient city transformed... Well, not...!! Cause there is a suburban municipality, not the city of Athens... And the "metropolitan park" will be 33% of the total area while the 66% going to be buildings. Savvy? Sorry if I disappointed you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Athens as a whole will be upgraded. That's what it's about. There are not many cities on earth that 1. is at the sea with a wonderful coastline 2. has mountains surrounding it 3. has the closest national park of Europe to it 4. has the ability to be within 1 hour to atleast 10 incredible islands, like Hydra, Spetses from one island chain as an example, or to some of the closer laying Cycladic islands to Athens like Syros. A truly incredible thing So. For Athens to have its incredible coastline area to be further upgraded with one of the largest urban parks on earth is a big big plus And not just that. Athens left and right receives upgrades. It's a changing city. Im sure Hellinikon project will only ben an incentive for more great projects of the future to come
The park will be 1/3 of the area. That doesn't mean that 2/3 will all be buildings. The are many other constructions going on. And even the building will have a lot of green space among them.
ανυπομονω να το δω να εκπληρωνεται σε πενηντα χρονια. Προβλέπω το δημοσιο να καθυστερησει απειρως το εργα και να οφειλει αστρονομικα ποσα στους ιδιωτες που επενδυσαν γιατι ειμαστε γτπ :D
Δεν είναι δημόσιο έργο, οπότε η πιθανότητα να καθυστερήσει το δημόσιο τα έργα ή να χρωστάει χρήματα είναι εξαρχής μηδενική. Το έργο κατασκευάζεται κυρίως μέσω της Lamda, και άλλων εταιριών που έχουν αναλάβει επιμέρους έργα (π.χ. Hard Rock- ΓΕΚ ΤΕΡΝΑ). Γενικά είναι μια επένδυση της τάξης των 8δις, ή περίπου ίση με το 1/7 των εσόδων του κράτους ανα έτος για να καταλάβεις το μέγεθος συγκριτικά με τις τρέχουσες δυνατότητες της ελληνικής οικονομίας.. Με λίγα λόγια είναι μια μεγάλη ιδιωτική επένδυση που θα πάρει χρόνια να ολοκληρωθεί λόγω μεγέθους αλλά όχι λόγω καθυστερήσεων.
@@rationalwho οκ ενδιαφέρον. Ωστόσο, το καθεστώς της περιοχής ποιο είναι; δεν ανήκε στο δημόσιο η σε κάποιο ΝΠΔΔ η ΝΠΙΔ; όλη αυτή η έκταση Δηλαδή θα περιέλθει κατά κυριότητα σε ιδιώτες θα εκμισθωθει τι θα γίνει;
@@leniantoula2529 το εργο χρηματοδοτείται μονο απο την Λαμδα, ευτυχως αυτη η κυβερνηση δεν εβαλε εμποδια οπως η προηγουμενη και το εργο προχωραει γρηγορα
How Greece has money because it owns huge amounts to other EU countries? It borrowed huge amounts. I do remember well this old airport. Project is fine, can´t deny it.
Fred Mils from another channel, basically composed a juvenile, nasty, hateful hit piece on this project, so thank you very much for creating a more balanced and honest video, no matter how well it goes, time it takes and materialises. At least you just presented the facts and in a positive sense too, because that's what is mature and expected in a fair and balanced report about anything. Many of us were starting to think that British people just simply love to put down and demean everything and anything about Greeks and Greece, but you have proven otherwise. As someone involved in architecture and developments I am going to recommend you to everyone I know and hope your channel grows and succeeds. All the best!
Athens will be great...very ancient in the historical centre and very futuristic in the surroundings
Finally a worthy video on the project, and too underrated.
Very nice presentation 👍👍
Finally a good video about this project!
Athens as a whole will be upgraded. That's what it's about. There are not many cities on earth that
1. is at the sea with a wonderful coastline
2. has mountains surrounding it
3. has the closest national park of Europe to it
4. has the ability to be within 1 hour to atleast 10 incredible islands, like Hydra, Spetses from one island chain as an example, or to some of the closer laying Cycladic islands to Athens like Syros. A truly incredible thing
So. For Athens to have its incredible coastline area to be further upgraded with one of the largest urban parks on earth is a big big plus
And not just that. Athens left and right receives upgrades. It's a changing city. Im sure Hellinikon project will only ben an incentive for more great projects of the future to come
Very well said!
I live few Kilometers away from Ellinikon... the Grind is real.
I won't believe it until I see it
You Greeks are so negative!!!!
The first buildings are almost done, the highway that goes through rn is being turned into s tunnel, also almost done, the base of the marina tower is set, all is going well till now🙏
Κλασσικός Έλληνας της αμφισβήτησης και της συνομοσιολογιας ......πέρασες να δεις ;;;;;;;
The construction has already began. What to believe?
The project is ahead of pace as of 02/2024. Stop by to see the progress and celebrate the best new city in the world. The jewel of Mediterranean!
As a Greek citizen I am very proud of this project. However our experience from Thessaloniki Metro that is still pending after almost 15 years now and the very dangerous road Patras-Pyrgos that we lost so many people there from traffic accidents and decided to start the previous year, I will be very amazed if this project will be finished in 2028.
In any case good luck to this project.
Small correction: Thessaloniki Metro is 93% ready, by the end of next year will be open and in service.
@@m4kkillottu There is no any correction because 93% remains pending. Tell me when it started please?
@@dionysisapostolopoulos8552 You miss some important details, like Greeks often do. Somehow they have a habit of being extremely nit picky about what being educated means. Sorry. But it's true. HOW in the world would a Greek not just realise there were 300.000 archaeological historical artifacts found and whole sections of ancient city which the workers came across, which strongly delayed the project? And yes the project has been in production for 10 years when we talk about actual production.
But the problem is also a blessing. The archaeological institutes in Greece and archaeology by itself is strongly anchored within law. So even a billion dollar project can be slowed by this. Also. Then to do with things in court regarding the archaeology is really another time consuming part.
and lastly. Have you seen how many tunnel and highway projects have been completed in Greece? There are 2000 tunnels in Greece going through mountains and what not. The problem is not cutting through stone. It was the Archaeology and then dealing with this that was the slow part.
I think the projects above ground (mostly) at Hellinikon will be much easier in regards to these elements.
Next time. Like I would tell every Greek. Before you say something, just educate yourself by researching extremely easy to find answers. Even a child of 4 can do it and you didn.t And no. You didn't or else you would have either expressed this already, either in your main comment or in your follow up reply.
This is a private investment. And ahead of pace as of 02/24.
You will become a believer.
@@Ptolemy336VV very well said!
Thank you for shining light.
My father is an architect working on the project. Specifically on the university of Nicosia that is being build there. I am very excited to see this project come to life even tho we would probably still have to wait at least 15 more years for the project to be fully completed
It has started. Truly well designed. Bit ambitious for total completion. I think thats the marina area and some park.
wow its looking nice
Great
ΕLLENIKON = ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΟΝ
💪💪🇬🇷🙏
The way he pronounces Ellinikon hurts my ears
I want to see if it looks the same when its finished, or if it would be disappointing with all the expectations
IF its finished.In Greece we have seen many plans but the most of them never completed
@@rapt684 like which one, that hasn’t been finished?
@@issith7340 Metro Sub Way in Thessaloniki... it's been developing for 25+ years (which means they closed really important central roads inside the city)... it has become an inside joke for Greeks... supposedly it should open next year, but it was supposed to end somewhere around 2018 I think... before that it had a deadline of 2013.. so 🤷♂️... oh don't get me started with football stadiums as well...
@@jasonb97 can’t destroy city’s history for the metro. Very significant archeological inventions delayed the metro. It happens in ancient places. Look at Rome’s metro history, and speak again
@@issith7340 Trust me, I live in this city... the main problem was always what to do with the ancient artifacts they found... the delay was always because the archeologists wanted to do NOTHING and just leave them as they are... the problem was the lack of founding as well, but whenever it was supported to be completed, the archeologists went ballistic and sued the engineering company and the state... even after the court said to move the artifacts safely in a different place, the archeologists tried to stop the progress by rioting outside the stations and closing major roads in the city (Thessaloniki has already shitty trafficking)... to end my point... I'm an adult... haven't seen this city without a construction site yet...
athens is a city with much potential...is very famous through the world for its history,is well located by the sea, has nice islands off the coast,has nice landscape etc... but unfortunately is populated by tons of LEFTIST loosers that everyday complain but when something is being improved they disagree telling absurdities...i hope athens will be upgraded and will take again the role it had in the past...the leading place for architecture.
🇬🇷🇬🇷❤️❤️🇬🇷🇬🇷❤️❤️🇬🇷👍👍👍👍
As a Greek, give the project half a century to be ready and in the end it will be delivered to the rich elite of the Greek society 😅🎉
I hope you can join us. This is a public place open to all. As for the 50 years, you are massively wrong. The project is ahead of plan and very well funded through public and government investment
With 30.000 Euro per square meter , accommodation and offices are obviously only for the rich international elite!
Πρέπει νά είμαστε επιφυλακτικοί , με τέτοια φαραωνικα μεγαλεπήβολα έργα , γιατί υπάρχει κίνδυνος , για μεγάλο φαγοπότι !!! Μεγάλο εργολάβοι , μεγάλο μηχανικοί , μεγάλο αρχιτέκτονες , μεγαλοϊδιοκτήτες , άντε ΚΑΛΉ ΌΡΕΞΗ !!!!!!😂
Το όλο έργο είναι ιδιωτική επένδυση, που σημαίνει, ότι δεν παίζεται δημόσιο χρήμα. Ο ιδιώτης δεν νομίζω να ξοδέψει αλόγιστα τα λεφτά του. Το ότι όμως θα ξοδευτούν πολλά χρήματα και θα υπάρξουν πολλές και καλοπληρωμένες δουλειές είναι σίγουρο.
Will they at least plant a huge green park as well??? As is Athens wouldn't have more than enough buildings and empty flats that could offer space for living. What is missing are parks!!! How amazing would be a huge green lung next to the sea? Instead they build more streets and asphalt. Also tourists love mature and do not come to Greece to go shopping. For me it's a huge failure and proof that the main motivation is again money.
One third of the area will be a green park. It will be one of the biggest pluses of the whole development.
For those who interest for this here is the real look of the project th-cam.com/video/VZYEfuJQ-tc/w-d-xo.html
Sooo they build a playground for foreign millionaires that looks like any other modern city, full of skyscrapers, steel, glass, etc ruining the panorama of a culturally rich city. I think it's great that it's smart and they make parks, but why not build max 90 m tall and Greek style, traditional design? Oh yeah, Dubai-man gives the money, so they need the world to be Dubaiized, so they can buy all of these luxury apartments and villas and congratulate each other in the casinos, while Greek people and turists interested in Greek culture can watch history disappear.
You will change your mind in 4 years, meanwhile stop by to see the magnificent project evolve.
A bit of history, perhaps you can read about the number of naysayers when Pericles and Phedias were building the Parthenon. Now we admire it and study its art and architecture.
Give it a break, start your judgement upon completion!
An ancient city transformed...
Well, not...!!
Cause there is a suburban municipality, not the city of Athens...
And the "metropolitan park" will be 33% of the total area while the 66% going to be buildings. Savvy?
Sorry if I disappointed you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Athens as a whole will be upgraded. That's what it's about. There are not many cities on earth that
1. is at the sea with a wonderful coastline
2. has mountains surrounding it
3. has the closest national park of Europe to it
4. has the ability to be within 1 hour to atleast 10 incredible islands, like Hydra, Spetses from one island chain as an example, or to some of the closer laying Cycladic islands to Athens like Syros. A truly incredible thing
So. For Athens to have its incredible coastline area to be further upgraded with one of the largest urban parks on earth is a big big plus
And not just that. Athens left and right receives upgrades. It's a changing city. Im sure Hellinikon project will only ben an incentive for more great projects of the future to come
The park will be 1/3 of the area. That doesn't mean that 2/3 will all be buildings. The are many other constructions going on. And even the building will have a lot of green space among them.
ανυπομονω να το δω να εκπληρωνεται σε πενηντα χρονια. Προβλέπω το δημοσιο να καθυστερησει απειρως το εργα και να οφειλει αστρονομικα ποσα στους ιδιωτες που επενδυσαν γιατι ειμαστε γτπ :D
Δεν είναι δημόσιο έργο, οπότε η πιθανότητα να καθυστερήσει το δημόσιο τα έργα ή να χρωστάει χρήματα είναι εξαρχής μηδενική. Το έργο κατασκευάζεται κυρίως μέσω της Lamda, και άλλων εταιριών που έχουν αναλάβει επιμέρους έργα (π.χ. Hard Rock- ΓΕΚ ΤΕΡΝΑ). Γενικά είναι μια επένδυση της τάξης των 8δις, ή περίπου ίση με το 1/7 των εσόδων του κράτους ανα έτος για να καταλάβεις το μέγεθος συγκριτικά με τις τρέχουσες δυνατότητες της ελληνικής οικονομίας.. Με λίγα λόγια είναι μια μεγάλη ιδιωτική επένδυση που θα πάρει χρόνια να ολοκληρωθεί λόγω μεγέθους αλλά όχι λόγω καθυστερήσεων.
@@rationalwho οκ ενδιαφέρον. Ωστόσο, το καθεστώς της περιοχής ποιο είναι; δεν ανήκε στο δημόσιο η σε κάποιο ΝΠΔΔ η ΝΠΙΔ; όλη αυτή η έκταση Δηλαδή θα περιέλθει κατά κυριότητα σε ιδιώτες θα εκμισθωθει τι θα γίνει;
@@leniantoula2529 η έκταση πωλήθηκε στη LAMDA DEVELOPMENT, από το δημόσιο
@@leniantoula2529 το εργο χρηματοδοτείται μονο απο την Λαμδα, ευτυχως αυτη η κυβερνηση δεν εβαλε εμποδια οπως η προηγουμενη και το εργο προχωραει γρηγορα
Συγνώμη χάνεις από κάπου το 2030 λενε ότι θα ναι έτοιμο ποια πενήντα χρόνια . Α καλά
How Greece has money because it owns huge amounts to other EU countries? It borrowed huge amounts. I do remember well this old airport. Project is fine, can´t deny it.
This project is funded by private investors. The infrastructure is supported by the government
@@YanniVassilopoulos And how many % of the sum goes go the corruption
Greece is up to date with all there loans and is ahead of time on payments!!!
@@YanniVassilopoulos "The infrastructure is supported by the government." That means that tax payers will pay the project.
@@democracysaved2577 Greece will never be able to pay its debts to other EU countries.
WOW!!