On my mando the little bit of ringing behind the nut is barely noticeable. The ringing behind the bridge is totally controllable by the heel of my hand. And it's a welcome ambiance I love. It's like the most subtle reverb/chorus effect I can call on at will.
I had noticed the ring being much more prominent in my new Mandolin as opposed to my guitars (that makes sense as there is more unused string on a mandolin). I just stuffed some tissue paper under the strings behind the bridge and it seems to work like a charm.
Played the mando for 40 years and never needed to do this.. until I bought a Godin A8 and heard its beautiful sound spoiled by a discordant resonance, which I finally pinned down to the strings behind the bridge. The tailpiece cover had some dampening rubber but it wasn't sufficient so I tried some grommets and that fixed the problem. At first I hid them behind the tailpiece cover, but now I show them off in a pretty pattern.
A fairly new sub just getting to research your videos , I way wondering what those were , thanks . I personally like the sound of the string " drone " from the before but and after bridge , just a personal opinion as is yours . Good stuff indeed . Keep on teaching , people like me need people like you . Thanks .
Interesting, on the strings, and the sound. I thought my mandolin was defective because I couuldn't stop it ringing. I don't like the added sound, either. I have some half-split rubber grommets, from when I had a car, and they will probably work. Thanks!
Question...is your bridge set @ 6 7/8 in. from the 12th fret @ both the E strings and G strings as well? Doesn't look like it but my eyes may be off.......need dampeners though i do.
Well, that answers that. What's your feeling about those cage thingummys that go on the back of the instrument? I've heard some folks say it makes a big difference. Thanks for that mate!
I think you're referring to Tone-Gards. They do make a big difference particularly when you're standing and playing with the back of the mandolin touching your body. The Tone-Gard creates a space, preventing the body from pressing against the back of the instrument and this results in greater volume. All the top players that I've been fortunate to be taught by at music camps - David Grisman, Mike Marshall, Joe K.Walsh and John Reischman use them and recommend them, as do the majority us lesser mortals who attend their classes. I should add that when playing sitting on a chair it is easier to keep a distance between the instrument and the body, so it's not such an issue. Personally I use them all the time.
Personally, I like the sound without the dampening. But, if the guitar and other instruments do not have a dampened sound, the additional ringing from all of the instruments makes a very unprofessional muddled sound. I like the mandolin having the extra ring because it otherwise gets overshadowed by the other instruments.
I am always surprised to see these grommets on mandolins with a (Bill) James tail-piece. When installed correctly, the two closure lock 'o' rings in the tail-piece eliminate the need for external damping. Yours probably needs a small upward tweak the next time you remove all the strings. I have been using and installing these for years, and have never had the need for grommets or leather strips with a James (or a Gilchrist) TP.
On my mando the little bit of ringing behind the nut is barely noticeable. The ringing behind the bridge is totally controllable by the heel of my hand. And it's a welcome ambiance I love. It's like the most subtle reverb/chorus effect I can call on at will.
Thank you Baron
Thanks! I would like to get that kind of dampers myself. I´m using a shoe lace behind the bridge.
I find it hard to concentrate because that Ellis is so beautiful.
I had noticed the ring being much more prominent in my new Mandolin as opposed to my guitars (that makes sense as there is more unused string on a mandolin). I just stuffed some tissue paper under the strings behind the bridge and it seems to work like a charm.
Played the mando for 40 years and never needed to do this.. until I bought a Godin A8 and heard its beautiful sound spoiled by a discordant resonance, which I finally pinned down to the strings behind the bridge. The tailpiece cover had some dampening rubber but it wasn't sufficient so I tried some grommets and that fixed the problem. At first I hid them behind the tailpiece cover, but now I show them off in a pretty pattern.
A fairly new sub just getting to research your videos , I way wondering what those were , thanks . I personally like the sound of the string " drone " from the before but and after bridge , just a personal opinion as is yours . Good stuff indeed . Keep on teaching , people like me need people like you . Thanks .
No question about it; that mando sounds very, very well.
Please can you do a video on the picks you use?
Thanks! Couldn't find the damn things on Amazon!
Interesting, on the strings, and the sound. I thought my mandolin was defective because I couuldn't stop it ringing. I don't like the added sound, either.
I have some half-split rubber grommets, from when I had a car, and they will probably work. Thanks!
Question...is your bridge set @ 6 7/8 in. from the 12th fret @ both the E strings and G strings as well? Doesn't look like it but my eyes may be off.......need dampeners though i do.
Well, that answers that. What's your feeling about those cage thingummys that go on the back of the instrument? I've heard some folks say it makes a big difference. Thanks for that mate!
I think you're referring to Tone-Gards. They do make a big difference particularly when you're standing and playing with the back of the mandolin touching your body. The Tone-Gard creates a space, preventing the body from pressing against the back of the instrument and this results in greater volume. All the top players that I've been fortunate to be taught by at music camps - David Grisman, Mike Marshall, Joe K.Walsh and John Reischman use them and recommend them, as do the majority us lesser mortals who attend their classes. I should add that when playing sitting on a chair it is easier to keep a distance between the instrument and the body, so it's not such an issue. Personally I use them all the time.
Philip Rundall Ah, thank you, that is most helpful. I'll look up Tone-Gard right now. Thank you again!
A pleasure!@@MarkMcCluney
Personally, I like the sound without the dampening. But, if the guitar and other instruments do not have a dampened sound, the additional ringing from all of the instruments makes a very unprofessional muddled sound. I like the mandolin having the extra ring because it otherwise gets overshadowed by the other instruments.
I like it better without too.
I am always surprised to see these grommets on mandolins with a (Bill) James tail-piece. When installed correctly, the two closure lock 'o' rings in the tail-piece eliminate the need for external damping. Yours probably needs a small upward tweak the next time you remove all the strings. I have been using and installing these for years, and have never had the need for grommets or leather strips with a James (or a Gilchrist) TP.
Damnit I never noticed it before but now I do and I need some string grommets lol
thank you boss
I’ve got dampeners on my guitars, but it never dawn on me to put them on my mando. lol
Why use them--the James Tail Piece already dampens the strings.
They could also reduce the Wolf effect on some instruments. **DR KEL
It did seem to take that annoying rattle out of the G string, that most mandolins have.
I think it sounds better without the grommets.
You can probably notice the difference more as a player than the audience can.
Definitely! And that goes for most things about playing an instrument, including making mistakes!
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Watch his other videos. This was not a video to teach to play chords.