Can we get a shout-out to the original G1 Jetfire / Takatoku Valkyrie mold? Every time I see a new version of this design, I'm still amazed at what that 40+ year old toy was able to pull off at that time, while still looking better than several Masterpiece figures.
The whole Licensing/rights mess between harmony gold (robotech) and Big West (the rights holders for Macross) was actually settled a couple years back because Sony wants to do a robotech movie, But that movie was unable to Move forward in production because of the mess. So Sony was the company to sit both harmony gold and Big West down and have them straighten it out the Rights and licensing mess.
Harmony Gold always been a real pita about the rights mess, Robotech is nothing more than 3 different anime (Macross and 2 others) put together with an English dub that messes with the story.
Personally i dont think that HG could have legally stopped Macross being sold in the U.S. (apart from SDF Macross obviously) as NONE of the other prequal and sequel Macross series were EVER used as part of the "Robotech" universe....
I'd actually recommend the OG Macross anime (in Japanese with subtitles of course). It's a really, really solid series, great storytelling and some fantastic animation. Anyway! Great looking toy. The side fillers are annoying but the Macross Valkyrie is one of those designs that's borderline impossible to do accurately without some partsforming. Hence why we haven't gotten a "perfect" Valkyrie over 40 years later.
Three Zero is solid... maybe some day. I only have a Kitzconcept God of flame as they were limited. Next year I hope to be caught up with TFs and start picking up a few other things like Macross/Gundam... stuff I'm going to put in a detolfs.
The problem with the hands are completely due to the fans: some are absolute sticklers for animation accuracy and in some shots, the hands are comically large almost to the point of being boxing gloves. Some Bandai versions offer two sets of fist stylings just because of this reason.
Again this is why we LOVE your reviews dude… A lot of us are only really familiar with it via Jetfire. Perfect and informative/fun review dude, thanks again🙌🏻
Bob if you wanna learn about the whole robotech thing, toygalaxy did a whole series of videos on them, including the jetfire portion and all the lawsuits etc.
What toy galaxy/ secret galaxy say is actually not accurate....i have watched the 3 part series of videos on the history and there are TWO glaring mistakes he makes....there could be more but definitely TWO mistakes i can recall from watching it
Its ok, i cancelled my pre orders as it took almost a year to arrive...Now they have pre orders for weathered version. 3zero dia a nice job..but Bandai is still king n pricy haha.
Having to get rid of the hands to transform it is kinda weird in this day and age... BUT G1 Optimus Prime did it and none of us cared (until we lost them in the sandbox...)
I got mine a few days ago, while I believe it's a solid figure I'm gonna have to pass on the remaining two. It's simply to small for what I'm looking for so I'm gonna be looking at the Bandai DX offerings in the future.
An appetizer plane-bot review before FT-Joker. The downside to these Macross pieces is the price point they want for these thin plastic feeling materials.
Would have been cool if Shoji Kawamori counter sued HG on the side of Big West,Bandai and all the other companies that produced MACROSS back in they day as it was him who sat down at a draughtsmans board and created the design in the 1st place so when the dust is all settled He owns the design.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In my top 3 cartoons/anime do the story brother man. Your story time with a cup of coffee on Sat morning or late night with some Scotch has been good for me 😄😄
The greedy side of me just wants him bigger. I also feel that if he were bigger, parts forming would be less, hands could stow in forearms and you could manage a waist swivel. But I just wish this line were bigger
I’ve got a ton of stuff recently. Mafex Bane. Super7 wily kit & kat, hot toys mace windu, hot toys c-3p0. Etc. I only post select videos publicly anymore. Everything else is on patreon. If I recommend something, it’s objective. I wouldn’t buy this bc I don’t give a shit about macross or robotech. But it’s a good product, so if you do, you should. :) all the in depth stuff is on patreon. I got tired of the public stuff being taken for granted. I’m much happier now as a creator. :)
@@gman6862 after all the harmony gold shenanigans back in the day.....and yes i AM being sarcastic....since when have 3rd companies carred about legal issues....they DONT.
This is an official product, ThreeZero is a legit company that would take the pains to obtain the licenses from the IP holders. The beef between Robotech/Macross have been somewhat resolved in the courts: Macross in Japan, Robotech everywhere else. See the multiple Secret Galaxy documentaries explaining it.
@ArionRDAW i have and secret galaxy talks nonsense. They way Dan goes on you would think the only 2 countries on the planet are Japan and the u.s.a.....i live in Ireland and BOTH Macross AND Robotech have been FREELY available over the counter in stores here for YEARS going right back to the early /mid 80s....in fact my very 1st VF-1S was a Bandai Super Dimension Fortress Macross version.
@ArionRDAW in fact secret galaxy talk so much nonsense about Macross /Robotech history in 1 of his videos Dan CLEARLY states when Takatoku toys went belly up the rights to most of the designs went to Bandai but it was Hasbro aquired the rights to the VF-1....Absloute bs...if that was the case why would hasbro have to licience it from bandai if hasbro already owned the rights to it....also 1 of the stipulations for hasbro getting the licience was hasbro were NOT to do a deal with takara as bandai regarded takara a rival toy company (still do) and they did NOT want their product being sold in the domestic Japanese /asian markets under a competitors name...that is why G1 Jetfire was not initially available in japan.
I've been looking at the 3 zero versions of these guys. I have yet to dip my toes into the next gen robotech/macross figures. Too many companies and scales from what I've seen. This however, may have helped me make a decision.
The only place it falls short of,and its only a small thing, is it would have been great if it came with the swap out "Mickey Mouse" hands as they are more accurate to the anime.....anyone who has a VF-1 from either Yamato or Arcadia will know what i mean.
i'm definitely getting this and Roy's, but I don't love it esp at the price. I'm probably alone on this, but to me while the paint is great and graphics are spot on something about the look might actually be too cartoony for me. Transformation wise, jetfire should be the baseline standard for all veritechs. even as i kid i never broke it, there was no parts forming and they had a great solution for hands. Obviously articulation wasn't the focus for Hasbro. Back then we had imaginations and no camera phones, and i wasn't going to save polaroids in an album. That said 3 zero did a really good job here. The only things I really dislike however about this figure are the hands and the missle cluster. The cluster looks like that just mailed that in. There should be a set of posable hands and a set of gun hands that don't need to be removed for transformation. The green in the in the head is really nice. I wouldn't have mind if they included a Minmay figure as well.
Parts-forming purists are such cry-babies! The gap-fillers in the torso are optional. Yamato included them in their GBP Armour set, but you didn't need to use them. The "balloon" hands are from the TV version, (as opposed to the movie version which had more boxy, mechanical hands, but Harmony Gold don't have the rights to the movie), and don't easily fit into the forearms, so ThreeZero just didn't bother. Normally, Valkyries come with a shrimpy pair of additional hands that can fit in the forearms, but they look lame, so I never use them. I have the Fokker VF-1S on preorder, which is a relief because all of the Hi-Metal R or DX Chogokin ones sell out straight away, and go for ludicrous money on the secondary market. $150 is a great deal, so I hope they keep this line going and also make Destroids etc.
1. SDS topic: In the words of Chancellor Palpatine..."DO IT!!" 2. *SPEAKING* of the G1 Jetfire, sweet mother of Primus, Unicron, and Gaea, that Valkyrie lookin' butterballs nekkid without the armor attachments (I believe it's called the F.A.S.T. Pack)!! It's not really noticable in the robot mode unless you're an absosmurfinlute analord (yes, I made that up, a portmanteau of "anal" & "lord") about the forearm & shin armor. But the jet mode?? I don't remember it being so bare even in Robotech!!😮😮😮
Stubborn as the license wants to be, they could make a small fortune if they released a Transformers sub-branded version of this. Like, practically ZERO effort. Maybe a face sculpt to really seal it. They'd be absolute morons not to.
It's heavily inspired, but since the transformation sequence is part of the show there are not that many different ways to get it done. The side filler pieces are VERY Arcadia, though. The nose cone usually has a radar dish inside, that's why it pivots out.
Can we get a shout-out to the original G1 Jetfire / Takatoku Valkyrie mold? Every time I see a new version of this design, I'm still amazed at what that 40+ year old toy was able to pull off at that time, while still looking better than several Masterpiece figures.
Hasbro needs to figure out a contract with HG to get a retro out
@@BK-qu6lj I think it's coming, and then they will do a missing link version soon after.
"...go be weird somewhere else." 😂 Haha love it!
Yes to the SDS topic.
The whole Licensing/rights mess between harmony gold (robotech) and Big West (the rights holders for Macross) was actually settled a couple years back because Sony wants to do a robotech movie, But that movie was unable to Move forward in production because of the mess. So Sony was the company to sit both harmony gold and Big West down and have them straighten it out the Rights and licensing mess.
Harmony Gold always been a real pita about the rights mess, Robotech is nothing more than 3 different anime (Macross and 2 others) put together with an English dub that messes with the story.
The funny thing is that Harmony Gold finally got spanked in the settlement after decades of being this weird lawsuit happy real estate company.
Personally i dont think that HG could have legally stopped Macross being sold in the U.S. (apart from SDF Macross obviously) as NONE of the other prequal and sequel Macross series were EVER used as part of the "Robotech" universe....
I'd actually recommend the OG Macross anime (in Japanese with subtitles of course). It's a really, really solid series, great storytelling and some fantastic animation.
Anyway! Great looking toy. The side fillers are annoying but the Macross Valkyrie is one of those designs that's borderline impossible to do accurately without some partsforming. Hence why we haven't gotten a "perfect" Valkyrie over 40 years later.
Yamato had a nearly perfect if not perfect 1/48 scale transformation just about 20 years ago.
so glad to hear this is better than that POS Kitz version from last year. Hopefully Threezero doesn't wait too long to get to the Jetfire coloration.
I can't believe how similar this transformation is to the old Arcadia/Yamato mold.
Threezero is one of the best action figure companies in the market.
This is a good TF action figure.
Thanks for the review Mr. Skullface.
Three Zero is solid... maybe some day. I only have a Kitzconcept God of flame as they were limited. Next year I hope to be caught up with TFs and start picking up a few other things like Macross/Gundam... stuff I'm going to put in a detolfs.
Yes Bobby, please do a story for the Patreon!😊
The problem with the hands are completely due to the fans: some are absolute sticklers for animation accuracy and in some shots, the hands are comically large almost to the point of being boxing gloves. Some Bandai versions offer two sets of fist stylings just because of this reason.
As do Arcadia and Yamato and those style of Anime correct hands are known as the "Mickey Mouse" hands
Again this is why we LOVE your reviews dude…
A lot of us are only really familiar with it via Jetfire. Perfect and informative/fun review dude, thanks again🙌🏻
Bob if you wanna learn about the whole robotech thing, toygalaxy did a whole series of videos on them, including the jetfire portion and all the lawsuits etc.
What toy galaxy/ secret galaxy say is actually not accurate....i have watched the 3 part series of videos on the history and there are TWO glaring mistakes he makes....there could be more but definitely TWO mistakes i can recall from watching it
Its ok, i cancelled my pre orders as it took almost a year to arrive...Now they have pre orders for weathered version. 3zero dia a nice job..but Bandai is still king n pricy haha.
It's really good-looking and almost 1/60 scale. Great for replacing the Yamato/ Arcadia releases. I'm sure it's also better build and durability-wise.
Having to get rid of the hands to transform it is kinda weird in this day and age... BUT G1 Optimus Prime did it and none of us cared (until we lost them in the sandbox...)
I got mine a few days ago, while I believe it's a solid figure I'm gonna have to pass on the remaining two. It's simply to small for what I'm looking for so I'm gonna be looking at the Bandai DX offerings in the future.
An appetizer plane-bot review before FT-Joker. The downside to these Macross pieces is the price point they want for these thin plastic feeling materials.
Is it plastic entirely or part metal? That would be a first for 3zero if they make them plastic.
I was literally looking around the internet yesterday for a good Macross Valkyrie and today I see this video recently released. What are the odds?
Hearing alot about elbow issues- being stuck and can only articulate so much with this. Thoughts?
Looks incredible. I may have to get this set when the vf-1s comes out.
My G1 favorites are Jetfire & Devastator. But my Jetfire toy always won because it was so pose-able in comparison to the other G1 offerings.
Would have been cool if Shoji Kawamori counter sued HG on the side of Big West,Bandai and all the other companies that produced MACROSS back in they day as it was him who sat down at a draughtsmans board and created the design in the 1st place so when the dust is all settled He owns the design.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Go be weird someplace else had me in stitches! Macros SSS sounds good.
In my top 3 cartoons/anime do the story brother man. Your story time with a cup of coffee on Sat morning or late night with some Scotch has been good for me 😄😄
I’m definitely picking up the Skull Leader when it comes out later this year.
This version is just badass.😂❤
HG is the problem. Not Carl Macek and not Robotech. Just HG. They are the clowns.
The fist hands can be kept on for transformation, if that’s a major concern for anyone.
had this preordered. may need to re-up that order.
This might be ThreeZero stumbling upon a loophole in the non-transforming license and unintentionally making a missing link of the G1 Jetfire.
The greedy side of me just wants him bigger. I also feel that if he were bigger, parts forming would be less, hands could stow in forearms and you could manage a waist swivel. But I just wish this line were bigger
this one does have waist swivel tho
Bobby, what was the last figure you bought? You keep getting figures loaned for review. What's worth buying if you're not buying???
I’ve got a ton of stuff recently. Mafex Bane. Super7 wily kit & kat, hot toys mace windu, hot toys c-3p0. Etc. I only post select videos publicly anymore. Everything else is on patreon. If I recommend something, it’s objective. I wouldn’t buy this bc I don’t give a shit about macross or robotech. But it’s a good product, so if you do, you should. :) all the in depth stuff is on patreon. I got tired of the public stuff being taken for granted. I’m much happier now as a creator. :)
I can see a law suit comming......and its not "jetfire".....this is a VF-1J.....jetfire used the super VF-1S.......different head
Why a lawsuit?
@@gman6862 after all the harmony gold shenanigans back in the day.....and yes i AM being sarcastic....since when have 3rd companies carred about legal issues....they DONT.
This is an official product, ThreeZero is a legit company that would take the pains to obtain the licenses from the IP holders. The beef between Robotech/Macross have been somewhat resolved in the courts: Macross in Japan, Robotech everywhere else. See the multiple Secret Galaxy documentaries explaining it.
@ArionRDAW i have and secret galaxy talks nonsense. They way Dan goes on you would think the only 2 countries on the planet are Japan and the u.s.a.....i live in Ireland and BOTH Macross AND Robotech have been FREELY available over the counter in stores here for YEARS going right back to the early /mid 80s....in fact my very 1st VF-1S was a Bandai Super Dimension Fortress Macross version.
@ArionRDAW in fact secret galaxy talk so much nonsense about Macross /Robotech history in 1 of his videos Dan CLEARLY states when Takatoku toys went belly up the rights to most of the designs went to Bandai but it was Hasbro aquired the rights to the VF-1....Absloute bs...if that was the case why would hasbro have to licience it from bandai if hasbro already owned the rights to it....also 1 of the stipulations for hasbro getting the licience was hasbro were NOT to do a deal with takara as bandai regarded takara a rival toy company (still do) and they did NOT want their product being sold in the domestic Japanese /asian markets under a competitors name...that is why G1 Jetfire was not initially available in japan.
I've been looking at the 3 zero versions of these guys. I have yet to dip my toes into the next gen robotech/macross figures. Too many companies and scales from what I've seen. This however, may have helped me make a decision.
Hands are a shame but looks great. Thanks.
Sadly I don't believe the agreement between harmony gold and Bandai has any impact on getting an official G1 toy looking Skyfire.
The only place it falls short of,and its only a small thing, is it would have been great if it came with the swap out "Mickey Mouse" hands as they are more accurate to the anime.....anyone who has a VF-1 from either Yamato or Arcadia will know what i mean.
i'm definitely getting this and Roy's, but I don't love it esp at the price. I'm probably alone on this, but to me while the paint is great and graphics are spot on something about the look might actually be too cartoony for me. Transformation wise, jetfire should be the baseline standard for all veritechs. even as i kid i never broke it, there was no parts forming and they had a great solution for hands. Obviously articulation wasn't the focus for Hasbro. Back then we had imaginations and no camera phones, and i wasn't going to save polaroids in an album. That said 3 zero did a really good job here. The only things I really dislike however about this figure are the hands and the missle cluster. The cluster looks like that just mailed that in. There should be a set of posable hands and a set of gun hands that don't need to be removed for transformation. The green in the in the head is really nice. I wouldn't have mind if they included a Minmay figure as well.
Parts-forming purists are such cry-babies!
The gap-fillers in the torso are optional. Yamato included them in their GBP Armour set, but you didn't need to use them. The "balloon" hands are from the TV version, (as opposed to the movie version which had more boxy, mechanical hands, but Harmony Gold don't have the rights to the movie), and don't easily fit into the forearms, so ThreeZero just didn't bother. Normally, Valkyries come with a shrimpy pair of additional hands that can fit in the forearms, but they look lame, so I never use them.
I have the Fokker VF-1S on preorder, which is a relief because all of the Hi-Metal R or DX Chogokin ones sell out straight away, and go for ludicrous money on the secondary market.
$150 is a great deal, so I hope they keep this line going and also make Destroids etc.
1. SDS topic: In the words of Chancellor Palpatine..."DO IT!!"
2. *SPEAKING* of the G1 Jetfire, sweet mother of Primus, Unicron, and Gaea, that Valkyrie lookin' butterballs nekkid without the armor attachments (I believe it's called the F.A.S.T. Pack)!! It's not really noticable in the robot mode unless you're an absosmurfinlute analord (yes, I made that up, a portmanteau of "anal" & "lord") about the forearm & shin armor. But the jet mode?? I don't remember it being so bare even in Robotech!!😮😮😮
Stubborn as the license wants to be, they could make a small fortune if they released a Transformers sub-branded version of this. Like, practically ZERO effort. Maybe a face sculpt to really seal it. They'd be absolute morons not to.
Og jetfire
Don't quote me but it looks like a rip off of the Yamato V2 veritech.
It's heavily inspired, but since the transformation sequence is part of the show there are not that many different ways to get it done. The side filler pieces are VERY Arcadia, though. The nose cone usually has a radar dish inside, that's why it pivots out.