Understanding Skin: A lesson in Skin Undertones and Strong Directional Light

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  • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
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  • @IcarusGames
    @IcarusGames ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This was really interesting. I would love to see a follow up where you take the same bust and apply the same technique over an existing skintone base.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's a super interesting suggestion. I might do it thanks

    • @rockabie00
      @rockabie00 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@JuanHidalgo Miniatures I would love for you to try a desaturated green like plague bearer flesh undercoat in the shadows as it adds even more realism and depth I forgot the name of this technique though
      Edit: it's called verdacho

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, that's something I want to explore with oils

  • @SeppukoGaming
    @SeppukoGaming ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I like the new angle even if it's just a minor readjustment it feels better.
    As for the video, I really like that you show us the ass phase of a miniature, where it does not yet look like you envision it , that really motivates and shows that sometimes it's just a few more steps to get it looking right from there on.
    From your video I learned, that I will be careful to apply contrast paint over white ink in the future

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, it's actually quite a dramatic camera angle change, from my left side to the right.
      But I think I like to better too

  • @samuelmartineau6243
    @samuelmartineau6243 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can make any changes you want to the channel, as long as you keep the music and your clothes stay on.
    Great video, I've seen the face colour mapping theory tons before but very rarely applied to minis. I imagine you could also apply the colours in minute amounts when layering - a spot of blue with the base, red with the mid, and yellow with the highlight. Kinda like how you can mix tiny amounts of a unifying colour into disharmonious colours in a paintscheme to tie them together.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can most definitely mix a bit of each colour into the basecoat of the skin.
      I cannot make any promises about the clothes though

  • @TheDlightsoldier
    @TheDlightsoldier ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this. This is the type of video I've always wanted to see. I always struggle with faces and the method on where to apply the highlights and what colors to use.
    This is a very informative video and hope to see many more like it in the future.

  • @saltedllama2759
    @saltedllama2759 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Exercises like these are also great for teaching people to paint what they see, not what they think they see. Meaning - paint light and shadow, paint volumes, paint shapes. Don't think about what the object itself is supposed to be (i.e. a nose, or skin, or hair).

  • @luismartinezgc
    @luismartinezgc ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting Juan. Top video as always. Thanks

  • @Ed-xo9pc
    @Ed-xo9pc ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this one mate, really interesting. I hope you do more like this in the future.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, I might do. I thought it was a very interesting exercise

  • @OneSoftye
    @OneSoftye ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you mate you're so incredibly helpful!

  • @Alf_Hairy-arse
    @Alf_Hairy-arse ปีที่แล้ว

    Theory videos are really good. Just subscribed.

  • @SymbolOFgreatness
    @SymbolOFgreatness ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool and informative video, one of my favourites.

  • @Norseraider84
    @Norseraider84 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is absolutely perfect ❤

  • @EugenAnanin
    @EugenAnanin ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, great exercise!

  • @morgankelly3526
    @morgankelly3526 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great video. I hope to see more theory videos in the future. I can't wait to try this out in my own painting.

  • @warmaster7114
    @warmaster7114 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video I will be trying this technique out thank you so much

  • @krzysztofb.4346
    @krzysztofb.4346 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, very inspiring, I will have to try such an excercise

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you , Sensi Juan ,
    (Still hateing the Blue!) .
    🐺

  • @s2ubuhobbies128
    @s2ubuhobbies128 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video, really helpful

  • @dannnn5451
    @dannnn5451 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please more theory videos in the future, this was great 👍

  • @ManyOtter
    @ManyOtter ปีที่แล้ว

    I've seen the reference image before but it's amazing to see it really explored on a model.

  • @chucklamb3496
    @chucklamb3496 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Juan !

  • @Gumlass1
    @Gumlass1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this kind of video.

  • @lucasthomas9184
    @lucasthomas9184 ปีที่แล้ว

    Youre the man Juan.

  • @Cordeneaux87
    @Cordeneaux87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would be cool to do an experiment. Same hue profile, different skin tone paints to see what works well and what doesn't.

  • @rushthewash
    @rushthewash ปีที่แล้ว

    Genial el vídeo, aplicando conceptos avanzados al pintado de minis. Muy pro!

  • @Nick-fh4wd
    @Nick-fh4wd ปีที่แล้ว

    .... so that's what's been 're activating my dalher Rowley white ink. Thankyou very much.

  • @goldenzbeatmaker
    @goldenzbeatmaker ปีที่แล้ว

    your paint is to clean bro wp , your tutorial help me to learn thank you :)

  • @srsgoblin
    @srsgoblin ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope you're well, Juan. I still vicariously live this hobby through you.
    Also, the youtube caption says "Philadephia" when you say "fellow haters of the blue" and that's just wonderful.

  • @anthonybrown6200
    @anthonybrown6200 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please more videos like this!!

  • @christiansebine7316
    @christiansebine7316 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mola la idea! Ya os enseñaré mi primer bustito que voy a ratos avanzando 🙈

  • @electrictrojan6719
    @electrictrojan6719 ปีที่แล้ว

    You've mastered fauvist colours

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Underrated comment.
      Congratulations you just won the art internet

  • @KevinvL
    @KevinvL ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video! Next time please include pics of the fails as well please :)

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, the video for the second one was corrupted and the for the first I was too busy dunking it into water to record it

  • @lynnostler639
    @lynnostler639 ปีที่แล้ว

    Juan, This was very interesting. Being someone who struggles with flesh I would like to see how you would take it to the end. Thank you for causing me to think out side the box.

  • @klug5916
    @klug5916 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, trying and explaining why it failed is a very interesting point. Then, coming to a more "useful" use of this theory is a very interesting point, even if the main idea didn't work.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks

    • @klug5916
      @klug5916 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JuanHidalgoMiniatures You were the one passing hours on painting and cutting the video. I only expressed my opinion in a few seconds. So, you're very welcome and please continue with interesting and experimental tries sometimes, it adds a lot of magic to mini painting!

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Much appreciated, that really means a lot
      😘

  • @thetabletopsupershow3670
    @thetabletopsupershow3670 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice underpainting tutorial.!I know well your pain in having an ink react with Contrast Paints, I was working on a Wizkids Fire Giant and had a humidity spike in my workshop that had my violet ink react badly with Flesh Tearer Red on his kilt just wrecking the effect I was going for! It sucks especially on larger models but I decided in the end to just leave it that way as a reminder for the future.

  • @jamesderwin
    @jamesderwin ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be interesting to see how, once you’ve got that colour mapped face but before highlights, apply and de-apply a crimson oil wash in a reductive manner with a make up sponge.

  • @vncntrgr
    @vncntrgr ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoyed the giggling.

  • @carlosgarciafluxa3538
    @carlosgarciafluxa3538 ปีที่แล้ว

    Muchas gracias por el video maestro! ☺️La nueva cámara una pasada. ¿Me podrías pasar el enlace de la cámara por favor?

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      La cámara es la misma, lo único que he cambiado es el angulo, de todas formas esta es la cámara que uso:
      www.amazon.es/Canon-EOS-M50-Objetivo-estabilizador/dp/B07B37N1LJ?__mk_es_ES=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=canon+m50&qid=1611672467&sr=8-1&linkCode=sl1&tag=jhminiature03-21&linkId=bfacd93267477255654ca5a392d7fea7&language=es_ES&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

    • @carlosgarciafluxa3538
      @carlosgarciafluxa3538 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JuanHidalgoMiniatures ah perdona. Se ve increíble igualmente. Le echaré un ojo entonces. Gracias

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Un placer!

  • @davidurquiamedina3972
    @davidurquiamedina3972 ปีที่แล้ว

    Un ejercicio muy interesante y muy buen vídeo. A ver si me pongo porque la última cara que pinté... Bueno paso palabra 🤣.

  • @TylerProvick
    @TylerProvick ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you considered mixing the final colour as your base colour instead of faffing around with glazes? Glazes are great and handy, but I think people use them in places where they aren't the best option because it is an easy, somewhat "automatic" painting technique.
    Mix your yellowish forehead skin shade and apply it in the forehead. The same with the cold tones of the jaw and reddish tones of the cheeks. Once you have them as you like you can go in with glazes to blend them. This is an artistic style where you interpret the planes of the face as coloured shapes, and then after they are correct do you work on the edges between them via varying amounts of blending.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a perfectly valid option of course. I personally prefer glazing myself

  • @maxfieldstanton4541
    @maxfieldstanton4541 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're a wizard! What is this sorcery!? ... really informative, though.

  • @ginozancanaro3346
    @ginozancanaro3346 ปีที่แล้ว

    ok, i tried to do so on a mini and then i went over the pre-shade with guilliman flesh (had no idea on what to do next so i tried).now that everything dried up, the tones are really interesting but i don't know what to do next again. i feel like using cadian fleshtone and flayed one flesh is not going to be the right choice. i was thinking about mixing cadian with the colors i used to do the pre-shade and slowly glaze towards the highlights. ami i wrong, may i be right?
    would love to see a video with the proper skintone applied anyway

  • @alvaropantojagarcia55
    @alvaropantojagarcia55 ปีที่แล้ว

    ¿¿Podrías haber intentado utilizar oleo blanco para hacer la parte de la iluminación?? Hasta donde yo se, una vez seco, no debería reactivarse con pinturas de base acrílica. Entiendo que no es el objetivo de estos videos, en tanto en cuanto sueles emplear sólo contrast y pintura acrílica, pero, ¿habría podido funcionar?

  • @jinxsD
    @jinxsD ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Juan! I thought id ask contrast master personally about what models you would suggest beginners to try on contrast/xpress paints ? Obviously beginner painters, so anything with good amount of models or not too expensive price would preferred, but not mandatory. Thanks so much and have an great weekend

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Any plastic kit with lots of models. Skinks are a good choice for example and they look good in any colour

  • @q3435
    @q3435 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. Enjoyed such a theory video. Can I suggest a very slight slowing of the teleprompter? It seemed a bit fast for your normal pace of speech, and felt as if your tongue was having a hard time keeping up with the pace. I felt a bit thrown when I started watching due to this, having watched most of your previous videos and knowing your usual presentation. Please continue such high quality explorations :)

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, first time with the tool, there's obviously some getting used to it.
      Thanks for the feedback, it's greatly appreciated

  • @thatgenericdixienormouspicguy
    @thatgenericdixienormouspicguy ปีที่แล้ว

    I attempted this as well on an actual 28mm miniature I got it looking like yours and when I went to glaze an actual skin tone it ended up being not thin enough even though I put a ton of medium in it as I always do, but the paint I used was a matte paint I normally don’t use and only thing I can think of is that’s what my issue was and I didn’t thin it properly.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think this will work better with contrast on a 28mm mini.
      The issue is Caucasian Skintones have a lot of white and are usually very opaque

    • @thatgenericdixienormouspicguy
      @thatgenericdixienormouspicguy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JuanHidalgoMiniatures Yeah, I was going for a lighter skin tone and it covered fine, but ones more layers went on it went chalky. I want to try it again, but with a more tan flesh tone to see how much better it turns out. The smaller scale made it easier for me as I just had to slap the colors down in the general tones so the “hardest” part was the glazing aspect. I think I’ll go with Darkoath flesh this time around.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice

  • @caseyrogers7538
    @caseyrogers7538 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah I've found with white ink you really need to let it fully cure before going over it, maybe a full day to dry. It reactivates pretty easily. I used to use white ink to do my zenithal highlights but I've now switched to tamiya flat white because of this.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yeah 😂
      Trust me, lesson learned.
      I've used it too a lot for that, but I never got to painting right away, this is the fort time doing it, never again

    • @caseyrogers7538
      @caseyrogers7538 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JuanHidalgoMiniatures where is the bust from? I’d like to try this experiment myself.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Fer Miniatures - The Acolyte

  • @Mensch777
    @Mensch777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have an artistic backround? Very interesting video!

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A little bit, I don't have any degrees but arts have always been very present in my education, mainly because I've always displayed some sort of talent for them I guess

    • @Mensch777
      @Mensch777 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JuanHidalgoMiniatures I really enjoyed this implementation of "real" art into the hobby. Would definetly love to see more of it.

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, much appreciated

  • @deadminiatures
    @deadminiatures ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe i've missed - but can you give a link to the Bust?)
    And thanx for a good tutorial video!

  • @XCATX25
    @XCATX25 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you photoshop a pink skin layer on top of your pictures to show how it would have turned out?

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Funny enough I did for the thumbnail...
      And then pixelated it 😂😂😂
      I might do a post on the community about it tomorrow. Stay tuned

  • @TheBumShackler
    @TheBumShackler ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey maybe you’ve talked about this before but what’s your logic for using Lahmian medium instead of contrast medium with contrast paints? Just preference? I find it interesting how some of my paints just work better w/ lahmian no matter what their “type” is

  • @verbalbbq7976
    @verbalbbq7976 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about using two shades of each untertone (yellow, magenta and blue/teal) for the directional lighting instead of washing down with purple?
    Wouldn’t that make the undetones have better defined values?

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh for sure! I was just testing an approach, but that's very good thinking

    • @verbalbbq7976
      @verbalbbq7976 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JuanHidalgoMiniatures Mil gracias! Llevo muchisimos años sin pintar nada pero tus videos me estan metiendo las ganas de nuevo!

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gracias a ti guapetón 😘

  • @laflecack
    @laflecack ปีที่แล้ว

    me, an absolute fool: "ah i see, so just paint a homer simpson underneath and everything will work out fine 🤔"

  • @andraszodon
    @andraszodon ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video but I wish you would have shown us the failure instead of just talking about it!

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, the issue is the video I was recording of it was corrupted (airbrush) and the other I only have the salvaged version that looks pretty much like the pre highlight version.
      Sorry

  • @AB-ik2nc
    @AB-ik2nc ปีที่แล้ว

    So, this video is fantastic, but the problem you face is that there is no contrast that's true skin colour... skin is some sort of pale orange, and guilliman for instance have more of a brown hue.
    A glaze of actual fine down skin colour should have worked better than contrast, ironically. Or the daller rowley skin colour ink thinned down.
    Kind of miss the point of your Channel, though. Sadly underpaint should be the ultimate trick to push contrast to master level... but there are not enough hue!

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah totally.
      There's no real point to the channel, but I thought using contrast would make for a more interesting video title if I'm honest.
      Sadly as we all know that didn't work at all, but we all learn from our mistakes and it's important to explain what happened and how to avoid it.
      In the end I think I salvaged a quite good video from what I thought it would be a full week of work down the drain

    • @AB-ik2nc
      @AB-ik2nc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JuanHidalgoMiniatures I feel your pain Juan, it's a shame, the underpaint looked really nice in the last stage before the disaster...
      But lesson learned! Next time you just need to test the technique on something, like a resin skull or whatever...

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว

      For sure, but sometimes you just have to scream
      LEROOOOOOOY JENKINS!
      and start painting

  • @cl8931
    @cl8931 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Slow your teleprompter down by 15% I think 🤔

    • @knecht227
      @knecht227 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh ja, little bit unrelaxed this time

    • @JuanHidalgoMiniatures
      @JuanHidalgoMiniatures  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, I'm learning. I will get used to it with time and practice.
      Thanks for the feedback