Ik maakte me al zorgen om jullie. Mijn condoleances voor het verlies van de poes. Altijd vervelend om een vriend kwijt te raken. (Ik woon zelf samen met drie katten).
So sorry to hear about Sashimi, sterkte ❤. Another difference: we don't have kill shelters. I've driven the Dierenambulance for a few years, all we did was pick up any stray animal (only after a certain amount of days, if owner not found), bring it to a shelter, putting out the message on a certain site, giving the owner at least 14 days to retrieve the animal. After this up for adoption. No need to euthanize a perfectly healthy animal. Even sick animals got treated back to health.
Shelters in the US usually have a similar process, at least the ones near me. The ones in my area do all they can to get animals adopted, but unfortunately most shelters are bursting at the seams with dogs. They're taking in more animals than are getting out each day so eventually, some sadly do end up euthanized. In most cases, the ones euthanized (at my local shelters - I can't speak to others) are usually dogs that have been there for a few months and are suffering greatly from kennel stress. Volunteers try really hard to get these adopted, but if they are not, it is often more humane to euthanize than to keep them suffering and deteriorating in the shelter. Just wanted to explain that, because I think some people think that shelters just kill dogs left and right for no reason. And maybe some do, idk, but those in my area do really try to get them into homes, or into foster homes so that they have space in the shelter for new animals coming in. I'm currently fostering a dog from the shelter who would have been euthanized the following week because my shelter is way over capacity.
@@kelseyj1389 thanks so much for clarifying this. I can only speak for NL, but mostly shelters have large play areas, dogs are hardly just confined in a small (prison)cell and if a certain type of dog doesn't appeal, they rotate the dogs to other areas/shelters, example: small dogs in the city, bigger dogs in rural areas. Stressed dogs in foster homes but never euthanize unless the dog is not healthy. In cases of no chance of 'rehabilitation', dogs may also go to shelters like: Dierenthuis - amazing organization, dogs will never leave there again only financial adoption and a safe home.
@@deborahpolman2427 That's great ❤ it's just the unfortunate reality here in much of the US that shelters are overflowing. There are tons of rescues (which don't euthanize) throughout the country that can sometimes take in dogs at risk of being euthanized, but rescues are also often full. They get play time at my shelter too, but there are so many dogs (over 400 at my shelter in Atlanta) that sadly they don't all get to spend time playing outside every day. Another shelter in Atlanta has over 600 dogs. There are a lot of factors that contribute to the problem. 1. Too many people don't get their pets spayed/neutered and end up having puppies that are given away, sold, or end up on the street, 2. Too many people want a puppy and then don't want it anymore once it grows up so they take it to the shelter, 3. A lot of apartments have size or breed restrictions, so if someone has no choice but to move to one of these places they have to get rid of their dog. Plenty of other factors, but those are a few. I do think most places do the best that they can to prevent euthanasia, but the problem is so immense at the moment that it's difficult to avoid. I didn't realize just how major this issue was until I got more involved with the shelter a few months ago. It's really heartbreaking
There is also a 3rd tier of care, after the regional animal hospital there is the university hospital in Utrecht. For complex care and they act like the CDC. So if a lot of animals ,cats,wild birds die they figure out what is the cause.
I did a survey among Dutch cat owners, and I got 600+ replies, totaling over 1300+ cats. You'd be surprised to hear... most are indoor cats! Only 15% of cat owners let their cats walk outside freely. Around 45% of them had an enclosed backyard or catio for their cats. But yep, they ARE mostly indoors! But because so many Dutch people own cats, it just looks like there's mostly outside cats everywhere. But big surprise, 85% of them are indoors :)
I'm wondering about the response group of your survey. Because when you live in a apartment building or flat there is no other option, but I know few cats in the suburbs and villages that are kept indoors. A guestimate of 2,9 million cats roam the streets in the Netherlands (according to bird-lover-associations).
@vogel2280 15% of cat owners =/= 15% of cats. On the other hand, I live in a small town on the outskirts and know at least 8 indoor cats and 1 outdoor cat. Plus a few farmers who "own" cats but they don't come that far our way.
@@Jiriki999 Yes, statistics always seem to be objective facts, but those fact can be extremely hard to interpret. If there are 2,9 million cats roaming the streets...how many of them actually have owners? And how many cats does a indoor cat owner have vs an outdoor cat owner? So going from a cat perspective or from an owner perspective might change statistics in such a way that the reader can actually come to a different point of view on the topic "outdoor cats in the Netherlands".
I have two sister (3 cats) and 4 friends (4 cats) + myself (1 cat) , none of them are inside cats. Oh and one friend I haven’t seen in years, but she had 12 cats that were outside cats too. I know of two colleagues with inside cats (3), but that’s all the current cats I can think of in my surroundings. Well, I know of the neighbours cats (4 off which I know their owners/home, but I won’t count those, because obviously I only count the outside cats) there’s at least seven cats making use of my (4x6m) garden. Now I may have a special friends group or something, but I think the Netherlands has way more outside cats than that survey showed.
I'm sorry for your big loss. Losing a huisdier is horrible. They are family. I wish you both a lot of strength. ❤. Oh, and a Zoo, we call a Dierentuin, a Animalgarden. ❤
So sorry to hear you have lost Sashimi 💔 I work at a pet shelter and pension. We get a lot of (American) expats who bring their pets to us when they go on holiday or business trips and most of them are dogs. We also have the local animal ambulance and a seniors club. This is for older cats and dogs of elderly people who had to move to a care home and weren’t able to find other people to care for their senior pets. They will not be up for adoption and stay with us for the rest of their life. Sometimes the owners come by and it’s heartwarming to see them reunite for a moment.
I’m sorry about your loss of your cat Sashimi, My 13,5 year old cat died in my arms a month ago. Now his friend of the same age is adjusting to live solo life with me.
We live in the US and we used to walk our cat Tippy on a leash and it was so unusual people would come down our street in the hopes of seeing her. I have tried to walk other cats and they flatly refuse😊. I am sorry for your loss of Sashimi, it is always hard. I appreciate the video because we are moving to Europe with 2 cats.
I'm sorry for your loss. My cats actually receive better and quicker health care than I do. And that's something I hear from a lot of pet owners. My current cat had major dental surgery a couple of weeks ago. We had discussed the price and after the x-rays they told me it would be at the upper end of the agreed upon price. The surgery lasted longer than expected though, and it was more expensive because of that. But they didn't charge me more. I also had free refills of medications because it was part of the treatment. I have a really good vet, and I actually felt bad for not paying more because I know they already try to keep their prices as low as possible.
When we moved to the Netherlands, we packed two weeks of our old wet food with us so we could mix with their new food and wean them to the new food here so that they didn’t get stomach upset.
😿😿😿Poor Sashimi... I have very mixed experiences with pet (cat) care. I really depends on the people and the company. In the end (for me) I figured a bigger clinic is better than smaller clinic. But even then, you really need to be careful who to trust. Once you're inside with a wounded cat, you are basically stuck with them. My cat ended up at a clinic with (on first glance) steep prices for operations, but they more then make up for that, because ALL AFTERCARE is included. My cat tore his skin on his flank over 20cm (8 inches). They stitched him up, but when he yanked out the stitches (yes, even with a cone and all) and then got infected, we went back 20 times in 10 weeks. NO ADDITIONAL charge. That really makes a big difference.
So sorry you lost Sashimi! Incidentally I only watched it now, because when you posted ot I had no time to listen. My friend's cat Chuck had gotten sick and I was helping taking care of him. Unfortunately we let him go last Monday. That's the 3rd cat in 1,5 year for me.😪
Although i am more of a dog person i understand what you went through. When my sister died i had to find a solution for her four cats. Eventualy i found a shelter who would take them and they where very understanding. On a personal note. Who plays the bass and whats the record player hook up to.
Applesap, in your case apple cider, which is not as sweet as appelsap, with Maple syrup is yust such a good idea. For Winter evenings Applesap with cinnamon and cole and then serve it hot is so good. But with a bit of maple syrup sounds so good. Thank you for the inspiration.
Very sorry to hear about Sashimi! *hugs* From my limited experience with vets (I tagged along once when my dad took his dog to the vet for vaccines and a checkup), they do their best on customer service and getting a card from them is very nice. And I've enjoyed watching Dr. Pol when he was on Discovery Channel. Yeah, ingredient lists on pet food aren't as detailed as food for human consumption. And pet health insurance has become a thing in the past several years. When my parents still had a dog, they didn't buy insurance but I do think they had a subscription at the local vet to get the yearly vaccines, checkups and treatments. As for food, I'm a fish keeper and I mainly feed a brand which came recommended by some experienced fish keepers and is developed by a fish doctor from Belgium. It comes in many different varieties and pellet sizes, but mainly contain fish protein, grains, minerals and some other stuff. And my fish are doing well, have nice colour and love to eat it. They also make shrimp sticks which my freshwater shrimp absolutely dive into. As for fish foods, I also follow some fishtubers in the USA and Canada and some brands they have, are not available here. But some brands like Hikari go around the world. But for most fish, if it fits into their mouths and entices them to eat, they'll eat it. There are some species which have more specific needs, like fresh or frozen protein like blood worms. Puffer fish are often fed tougher foods because they have teeth that keep growing. The pet store I usually go to is Diebo in Nieuwegein. You should check that out! Aside from a big aquarium section they have loads for cats, dogs and other animals. For the holidays, they sell loads of themed treats, toys and clothes, like Sinterklaas meat letters for dogs (instead of chocolate letters because chocolate is actually quite toxic for them), treats and stuff for cats, loads and loads. They also had a Halloween collection this year! You could take a train to Utrecht and a bus to Nieuwegein. There is a bus stop close by. They're next to a huge thrift store!
About prices when you buy from the vet, it’s the same thing as with other shops. Buying from a physical location is more expensive. But if we all stop buying from the vet; the vet has a trouble staying afloat
The animal hospital in Barendrecht also serves Rotterdam. My cat had a room for himself there for a few days, because he could be contagious
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So sorry for missing your furry friend. Sashimi gave you a lot of love. What a great memory!! By the way, words with ui are never pronounced sounding German like the word Hause - house. - huis I know, not easy when your first language is English..... 🤩😻
You’ll find that the cleanliness standards at the animal hospitals are pretty universal. These are often chains and they operate on common standards and practices. Their furnishings and equipment are standardized too. They’ll also have specialists of various descriptions, like eye doctors and dermatologists etc.
We had a fat red tomcat some 20 years ago. He was a stray that just kept coming back (because my little brother kept giving him treats), and so, after a while, we kept him. We live in a 'rijtjeshuis' with a fairly large garden, but like a real drifter, he liked to roam about the neighborhood. I once saw him prowling in the grass at least half a mile from the house, and sometimes he didn't come home for days. We would have loved to have GPS tags to see where he went, but they didn't exist back then. He was fairly picky about food. He only liked one brand of 'wet' (canned) and 'dry' (boxed) catfood. Occasionally, we bought some frozen fish, and cooked it for him. Once he caught the smell, he went completely mad. We had to put it out of reach to let it cool off. He also liked to drink water straight out of a running tap, and he also loved snow, which was a pity, because in the time he was with us, it snowed maybe 2 or 3 times. We had 2 experiences with vets. The first was when he had a large scratch on his face (probably from a fight) that got infected, so he had to be treated for that. We had a vet only a block away, so that was convenient. The treatments weren't very expensive back then, so that wasn't a problem. The second time was when he was very ill. The vet had moved to an animal hospital in the same neighborhood, but much further away. The illness could not be cured, so he was euthanised and cremated. That was rather expensive, and we didn't have pet insurance.
Dutch for zoo is dierentuin, een guinea pig heet een cavia. Over konijnen gesproken: kennen jullie een Nederlands kerstlied Flappie van cabaretier Youp van ´t Hek?
Billyspeaks (youtube channel) who has also passed away now, was a US cat that was taken places on a leash. As for leashes in the Netherlands, I think it is very uncommon outside of the Randstad. I think it’s more off and urban, appartment buildings kind of thing, when the cat has to go down several stairs or an elevator.
Vet costs really differ. Some practices will have ya pay an arm and a leg, others will ask half but will also be smaller (usually) and provide more basic-ish care (no specialized stuff but will do broken bones etc). Many will also offer simple things like clipping nails for little money (like between 5 and 10 bucks a dog).
I have lived in Amsterdam for thirty years and seen a cat on a lead only two or three times. We have never had insurance for our cats. Our vet practice was privately owned and became part of a large chain when the head vet retired. I also get the impression (as with GPs) that now that there are more female vets they tend to work part-time. Costs have gone up a lot, but a) as with modern medicine for humans there is/are more sophisticated diagnostic equipment and treatment options and b) my personal opinion, venture capitalists have invested in this area because they know that we, the clients, are emotionally attached to our pets and they take advantage of this, and probably expect us to have pet insurance. On the other hand, the treatment and services, in my limited experience, because we have been lucky having fairly healthy cats, are excellent. I discussed this with our vet who explained that vets, as with other medical professions, are not allowed to defend themselves publicly nor call out those owners who are free to criticise them in the media, and gain considerable exposure, but are ‘economical with the truth’ as to the circumstances which led to the high final bill.
I wondered what hapopened. Even gone and checked this second channel to see if I missed uploads. My condolences. its very hard to lose a family member. We recently lost our dog
My sincere condolences on the passing of Sashimi, so sad to hear but losing a pet always hit any petlover. For me i lost a 3,5 year old bunny a week ago, and she is leaving behind her sister which i got a few years ago to add to my senior male bunny who now is about 9 years old (has some aging issues but he still goes strong). While i think petcare and especially healthcare (and deathcare for that manner) drastically improved the past few decades in this country, it also comes with a cost which some may find absurd. For my still living female bunny i had to take her to the vet when she was about 1y due to a blatter stone, and the bill quickly went up to around 900 euro because of imaging works and a following surgery ( a double one to be fair, i also chose to get her spayed at the same time). The cost of cremation did went up heavily though the past few years. Around 3 years ago i paid 100 euro for a individual cremation for a bunny, these days those costs are literally doubled for the same service. And i am also one of those people who walks around his cat on a leash when the weather allows it as i am living in an apartment building in Rotterdam, also did that with bunnies in the park and even guinea pigs years ago.
Oh nee! Dat klinkt als een ontzettend emotionele tijd voor jullie. Wat een gemis, zonder Sashimi 😢 hopelijk gaat het met Pants ondertussen wel goed. Wat betreft de dierenverzekering: heb ik zelf ook niet. In dit geval ben ik het met jullie eens dat het een ‘scam’ is. Want oudere dieren of met een bepaalde voorgeschiedenis krijg je vaak ook bepaalde behandelingen alsnog niet voor vergoed, dan kun je dus beter zelf sparen voor ‘dure dierenartsen kosten’. Dat heb ik zelf met mijn kat Yama (ze is nu ongeveer 6 jaar) ook zo gedaan, zij moest al snel nadat ik haar adopteerde naar een dierenarts specialist in verband met hartproblemen (een hartecho) en logischerwijs had ik geen verzekering voor haar. En nu ze dus al dit in haar medische voorgeschiedenis heeft kan ik haar er ook niet meer voor verzekeren. :(
Sorry to hear about the loss of Sashime, and I hope you find out what’s the matter with your other kitty. I sadly had a great experience with my vet. I understand that sentence does not make sense. 3,5 years ago, my sweet cat Nana, who I absolutely adored, suddenly fell ill. Of course, I had to go to the emergency vet, because it was at the weekend. It was a regular vet, but not my own. The costs were reasonable, I believe €80. Unfortunately that didn’t solve her problems, so I had to take her to her regular vet, to figure out what was wrong with her. It turned out that she had cancer in her spleen, cue many visits, an emergency operation etc. All stressful as is, but at the exact same time, my car decided to completely break down for good. So for most of these appointments, I had to take a taxi. After one of those visits, my vet called to discuss further treatment and mentioned that they’d noticed that I was using taxis. So, they offered for their intern to come pick my kitty and myself up from my house to them, and take us back. Even for the surgery, the girl just came to pick her up. They also kept me up to date, and geve me a report on how she was doing, plus how affectionate she was. In the end, my sweet girl didn’t make it, she was gone in little over 2,5 weeks. But knowing how lovingly she was cared for by my vet was the only bit of consolation. They send condolence cards too, it’s such a sweet gesture. One more thing to add, I had Nana cremated at the pet crematory. They were so incredibly kind as well, gave me all the time I needed to say my goodbyes, truly made me feel they understood their job.
I am so sorry about Sashimi. It's so painful to lose a pet, sterkte! I don't think I've ever been to (or heard about) a vet that was dirty or smelly. Like, even if our dog is on the examination table for a few minutes at most, for vaccinations, and has just stood there, they spray and wipe the table, etc. We go to a local vet, that has recently merged with a lot of other clinics in the region, as a result the main office is now no longer the main office, and the emergency care outside office hours there is now relocated to another location much further away from us. though it does also mean that if we do have an emergency during office hours we can go to whichever location has room for us at that time. Our previous dog had epilepsy and none of the treatments worked, so our vet ended up referring us to the university hospital to see a neurologist, and there we received the same good care we always get at our regular vet. It is also a teaching hospital so we got two students do the screening questions first, write everything down, and then repeated the conversation with the neurologist, who then reviewed the students' questions so we got to go through the whole thing three times. In the end our dog didn't make it, he didn't really get out of one of his seizures, which were steadily getting worse and more frequent. Our regular vet sent us a card as well, and the neurologist sent us a personal email after we informed him about what happened. So a positive experience in a very sad time. The woman at the crematorium was also great and took the time to chat with us for almost half an hour, she asked us about our dog, what he was like, what we were planning on doing with the ashes, etc. Pet insurance is pretty common and I'm really glad we got it, because our first dog really racked up the bills, and our current dog is allergic to several things, so he's getting up there with medication and injections as well. If we hadn't been insured we would have been paying a lot of bills ourselves. We always take our dog with us on vacation, so we keep up to date with all vaccinations and tapeworm treatments etc, and that can be expensive too. The wait and see thing is mostly with really common things like runny nose or fever. Like, if the fever isn't super high, and it's just a flu, then the treatment for flu is rest. And things like antibiotics are not only not effective against the flu, they would cause more antibiotic resistant bacteria. We are already on one of, if not our last option for antibiotics, so most doctors are really reluctant to prescribe them if they are not absolutely necessary.
If you guys plan on getting a new baby pet, just get a (pet) insurance that suits your needs. It usually is cheaper to get one for a young animal than one of age.
I am so sorry to hear about you having to part with your cat. Most pet-owners hete see their pets as a true part of the family. Dog owners love to talk about their dogs here...walking your dog or cat is very good for social interaction. I had a great vet-practice, it is the little things they did that made me trust them 100%. People complaining about the costs? They do not realise what it costs to have a building, electra, research equipment etc etc just running....without cost of employers. We do not even know what a simple conversation costs when we visit a specialist in a hospital. Adopting a pet is a very big commitment and yes it is expensive. I would never have adopted a dog if there was not an insurance to count on (low income). And even then I put money aside for the vaccinations, the 20% I had to pay for myself... Petcare in Nederland is great. Some people still think that if they do not want to pay for an operation that is necessary that they will just get their pet euthanised.... That is no longer possible. You pay...or you have the pet signed over... Those people off course do not deserve to have the lovely, heartwarming company of an animal that will be devoted to them... And I completely understand that at times of stress your Dutch is failing. (Which is by the way how many Dutch people feel when they have a tourist coming up to them and they are expected to speak English, because research (how much research was that?) says 80% of the people here speak English. (Off topic I know, but really, knowing some words is speaking English?)
About 12 years ago, I took on my two cats a pet insurance, both cats were outdoorcats. Although this was the perfect place for a cat owner, a neighborhood with about two cats an household average. Small streets, that not invites to speed up, quicker than 30 km. p/h. Little did I know there would come 3 cats more in the next few years. But with my second cat (female) I did not to pay to much for her pet insurance... . But for my first cat I did, except for give him medicine against flea allergie.... never had to worry. Only when the cat had anemia, I had to go to the vet... When I heard it was only anemia (bloedarmoede), I was glad ... I thought this they can cure, just like with humans.... Well they could not cure him. Two minutes later I was kissing, petting and holding my Poeshka, while he was breathing his dying breath. I was baffled, those two or 3 minutes between regained hope...and feeling by best friends last breath Another thing, I quess a city like your city, and where I live ,are different to each other about what the veterinarians can and cannot do. The clinic in the town I live... they probablly are (I quess) somewhere between a clinic and an hospital. About 5 doctors (Male/Fem). And even more other employes. And even horses, cows and other cattle, can be examined here and probably cured. The fascilities are here, but hardly ever seen any horse there... but hey... I never go there except, when one of my cats is ill, or if I have to buy some medication.
I'm a bit late to the party, but about pet insurance: I have 2 cats. If I didn't have insurance for one of them, it'd have cost me about 4000 euros more last year than what it cost me now, due to hospital bills. (She had to go to the animal hospital in Utrecht because no normal vet could figure out what was wrong with her). She's doing amazing now, but will never grow to the size of a normal cat.
I think I started hearing adverts for pet insurance on the radio about a year ago and never before that. It sounded a little scammy as there wasn't a need for it before.
Gecondoleerd met Sushimi . Het leven kan soms hard zijn. Nog 1 opmerking, het woord puistjes spreek je uit zoals een ui (onion) of uit. Het is niet pAUstjes maar pUIstjes. Ik weet, dit is niet gemakkelijk, heb een vriend die ook uit de US komt, die heeft het zelfde "probleem" gehad. Ga zo door, houd van jullie blogs. Succes.
😿 So sad, my condolances. Never gets easy, been through this before as well 😉 Insurance is not always worth it, depends highly what is wrong with your pets. Read through the conditions thoroughly as they are not always applicable for every disease. My cats are not insured, I just saved some money just in case. My priorities have always beem: 1:Roof over our heads; 2:Food for cats; 3:Anything else. My cats live mainly on Royal Canin kibbles, 'wet' food once or twice a week and lots of treats.
Probably the reason the ingredients for pet food are different is that out here pet food should be also suitable for human consumption. So the EU food standards will apply.
Sorry to hear your cat past away. We are lucky that our dierenarts, vet, is just around the corner for our 3 year old cat Neko. The yearly check and vaccination cost only €35,- and the identy chip was free because of a program in Rotterdam when chipping is free in november. A few weeks ago Neko was breathing strangely from time to time. Made an appointrment to come the next week and we had to try to give Neko some childrens Bisolvon in advance. That cured her and for the visit to the vet we were charged only €1,60 for the relaxing capsules so she didn't fight us to get in the cage.
@inge6280 yeah, I am almost considering getting 2 new kittens with a vet like that😂. I had 2 cats for 18 years, 2 sisters. They had to be euthanized because they were getting old and multiple health problems within a couple of months apart from each other. I was upset losing them and liked having cats, but the hairs all around my house and the high vet costs made me decide to not take a new cat/kitten for now.
Are the costs really the same as in the US? when I see what they are paying in the US, I can't imagine it is the same. Btw I don't know anyone of my friends and family in the netherlands that have pet insurance, and no vet ever asks me for the insurance. To me its really a scam. You have to pay a lot extra, next to the insurance itself. And you can't have insurance for a cat older than 6 years.
We have mandatory health insurance for ourselves so I think it's a given to us that if you add a member to the family you also get them health insurance, be it a baby or a pet. At least you're the first people I've come across without pet insurance. That said, really sorry to hear about the cat :(
many people give these small pets to their children to learn taking care of animals and teach them responsibility, not sure if it's a typical cultural dutch thing
The vet tech at the reception getting nervous at you not knowing the cost yet probably also has to do with some people getting angry about the price. 😬 Also re: complaints online about the price, some are indeed silly but there’s also been an influx of large companies investing in vet practices and driving up the prices. Independent practices are getting more and more rare. Cost of living is already skyrocketing and now many vet practices are charging stupid amounts. “To improve quality” they say, but not all vet practices need all state of the art equipment. It’s fine to have a small local vet that does just simple things for cheap. 😒
the laws around keeping certain animals as pets has chabged a lot in recent years. many exotic species have been put on a black list. like 10 years ago it wasnt impossible to look out of your window and seeing someones escaped serval lol
I never buy my 2 dogs' dog food from those big brands, and I never feed them kibble, because they're basically all trash and unhealthy for dogs (and other pets). Those greedy companies only care about profits, instead of animal wellbeing. Kibble wasn't invented until like the 1950s when household pets became more common, and it was basically invented to cater to people because it made feeding pets efficient. Most kibble is made from grain, which many pets can't digest properly and are often even allergic to. And they're baked at such high temperatures, that almost all important nutrients are gone (vitamins, minerals, etc.). This then will negatively impact your pets immune system because they're always deprived of those nutrients, which leads to a weak immune system and makes them prone to get sick easily. With kibble, you're basically giving them baked air that gives them tummy aches all day every day.
Ik miste jullie al, was ik niet gewend van jullie omdat de podcast altijd in de tijd window is. Maar ook mijn condoleance voor jullie verlies. Ik wens jullie heel veel sterkte en energie toe Michelle & Alex.
About healthcare misconception that you only get paracetamol; that is true for lighter things but the moment you have something serious you will get the whole thing :)
Pet doctors were all independent. But since a couple of years they are overrun / bought out by a large organisation driven by profit profit profit. Prices sky rocketed in only a few years. Here is a tip: find a farm docter. They are still affordable.
Cats that have food allergies, say what now? How bout feeding your cats true (raw) food instead of (factory) fodder, no allergies will bother your cats... I have two brothers, Mitch and Midas, they are thriving on (raw) food and (using the catflap) are very active outdoors.....
My condolences with Sashimi. I had to hear the Dutch word 5 times before I understood it. The Dutch ui sound is hard to pronounce for non Dutch, just keep practicing.
Then you don‘t know my cat. Never even asks to go outside when it‘s dark, lately (he‘s getting older) he doesn‘t stray more than four meters from the door. (Since he‘s only got one I, he‘s rather scared of the neighbour‘s cats) Still wants to go outside daily though and really enjoys just sitting somewhere close by.
I'm a live and let live, express what you want, person - but in this instance, your choice of videos is inappropriate. Yes, cats can be killers. It's how they survive - like every carnivore. However this is not the place for such a comment. Michelle and Alex made this video to share their love of dieren, especially katten. They poured their hearts and souls, including their pain and grief, into a loving documentary to help other people. There are other sources to express your thoughts about cats. It's very inappropriate for this video.
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Ik maakte me al zorgen om jullie. Mijn condoleances voor het verlies van de poes. Altijd vervelend om een vriend kwijt te raken. (Ik woon zelf samen met drie katten).
So sorry to hear about Sashimi, sterkte ❤. Another difference: we don't have kill shelters. I've driven the Dierenambulance for a few years, all we did was pick up any stray animal (only after a certain amount of days, if owner not found), bring it to a shelter, putting out the message on a certain site, giving the owner at least 14 days to retrieve the animal. After this up for adoption. No need to euthanize a perfectly healthy animal. Even sick animals got treated back to health.
If I am not mistaken the Netherlands imports stray dogs, because demand for adoption is higher than the supply.
@DenUitvreter that's very much about the smaller ones. It's hard to find adopters for the bigger dogs.
Shelters in the US usually have a similar process, at least the ones near me. The ones in my area do all they can to get animals adopted, but unfortunately most shelters are bursting at the seams with dogs. They're taking in more animals than are getting out each day so eventually, some sadly do end up euthanized. In most cases, the ones euthanized (at my local shelters - I can't speak to others) are usually dogs that have been there for a few months and are suffering greatly from kennel stress. Volunteers try really hard to get these adopted, but if they are not, it is often more humane to euthanize than to keep them suffering and deteriorating in the shelter.
Just wanted to explain that, because I think some people think that shelters just kill dogs left and right for no reason. And maybe some do, idk, but those in my area do really try to get them into homes, or into foster homes so that they have space in the shelter for new animals coming in. I'm currently fostering a dog from the shelter who would have been euthanized the following week because my shelter is way over capacity.
@@kelseyj1389 thanks so much for clarifying this. I can only speak for NL, but mostly shelters have large play areas, dogs are hardly just confined in a small (prison)cell and if a certain type of dog doesn't appeal, they rotate the dogs to other areas/shelters, example: small dogs in the city, bigger dogs in rural areas. Stressed dogs in foster homes but never euthanize unless the dog is not healthy. In cases of no chance of 'rehabilitation', dogs may also go to shelters like: Dierenthuis - amazing organization, dogs will never leave there again only financial adoption and a safe home.
@@deborahpolman2427 That's great ❤ it's just the unfortunate reality here in much of the US that shelters are overflowing. There are tons of rescues (which don't euthanize) throughout the country that can sometimes take in dogs at risk of being euthanized, but rescues are also often full. They get play time at my shelter too, but there are so many dogs (over 400 at my shelter in Atlanta) that sadly they don't all get to spend time playing outside every day. Another shelter in Atlanta has over 600 dogs.
There are a lot of factors that contribute to the problem. 1. Too many people don't get their pets spayed/neutered and end up having puppies that are given away, sold, or end up on the street, 2. Too many people want a puppy and then don't want it anymore once it grows up so they take it to the shelter, 3. A lot of apartments have size or breed restrictions, so if someone has no choice but to move to one of these places they have to get rid of their dog. Plenty of other factors, but those are a few.
I do think most places do the best that they can to prevent euthanasia, but the problem is so immense at the moment that it's difficult to avoid. I didn't realize just how major this issue was until I got more involved with the shelter a few months ago. It's really heartbreaking
There is also a 3rd tier of care, after the regional animal hospital there is the university hospital in Utrecht.
For complex care and they act like the CDC. So if a lot of animals ,cats,wild birds die they figure out what is the cause.
I did a survey among Dutch cat owners, and I got 600+ replies, totaling over 1300+ cats. You'd be surprised to hear... most are indoor cats! Only 15% of cat owners let their cats walk outside freely. Around 45% of them had an enclosed backyard or catio for their cats. But yep, they ARE mostly indoors! But because so many Dutch people own cats, it just looks like there's mostly outside cats everywhere. But big surprise, 85% of them are indoors :)
I'm wondering about the response group of your survey. Because when you live in a apartment building or flat there is no other option, but I know few cats in the suburbs and villages that are kept indoors. A guestimate of 2,9 million cats roam the streets in the Netherlands (according to bird-lover-associations).
Yes, I thought the same thing. There are no farm cats being kept inside, and there are very many farm cats.
@vogel2280 15% of cat owners =/= 15% of cats. On the other hand, I live in a small town on the outskirts and know at least 8 indoor cats and 1 outdoor cat. Plus a few farmers who "own" cats but they don't come that far our way.
@@Jiriki999 Yes, statistics always seem to be objective facts, but those fact can be extremely hard to interpret. If there are 2,9 million cats roaming the streets...how many of them actually have owners? And how many cats does a indoor cat owner have vs an outdoor cat owner? So going from a cat perspective or from an owner perspective might change statistics in such a way that the reader can actually come to a different point of view on the topic "outdoor cats in the Netherlands".
I have two sister (3 cats) and 4 friends (4 cats) + myself (1 cat) , none of them are inside cats. Oh and one friend I haven’t seen in years, but she had 12 cats that were outside cats too.
I know of two colleagues with inside cats (3), but that’s all the current cats I can think of in my surroundings. Well, I know of the neighbours cats (4 off which I know their owners/home, but I won’t count those, because obviously I only count the outside cats) there’s at least seven cats making use of my (4x6m) garden.
Now I may have a special friends group or something, but I think the Netherlands has way more outside cats than that survey showed.
Heartfelt condolences to the loss of your babes. They become so part of us. Thinking of you guys xxx
I'm sorry for your big loss. Losing a huisdier is horrible. They are family. I wish you both a lot of strength. ❤.
Oh, and a Zoo, we call a Dierentuin, a Animalgarden. ❤
I think the more common name for "zoo" is not "dierenpark" but "dierentuin" what translates to "animalgarden".
Unless you go to Ouwehands or Amersfoort, then it "Dierenpark" is in the actual name.
Blijdorp in Rotterdam was (is?) heel lang 'Diergaarde Blijdorp'...
R.I.P Sashimi.
So sorry to hear you have lost Sashimi 💔
I work at a pet shelter and pension. We get a lot of (American) expats who bring their pets to us when they go on holiday or business trips and most of them are dogs.
We also have the local animal ambulance and a seniors club. This is for older cats and dogs of elderly people who had to move to a care home and weren’t able to find other people to care for their senior pets. They will not be up for adoption and stay with us for the rest of their life. Sometimes the owners come by and it’s heartwarming to see them reunite for a moment.
I’m sorry about your loss of your cat Sashimi, My 13,5 year old cat died in my arms a month ago. Now his friend of the same age is adjusting to live solo life with me.
We live in the US and we used to walk our cat Tippy on a leash and it was so unusual people would come down our street in the hopes of seeing her. I have tried to walk other cats and they flatly refuse😊. I am sorry for your loss of Sashimi, it is always hard. I appreciate the video because we are moving to Europe with 2 cats.
I am so sorry for your loss
Oh no! Deepest condolences on the loss of ur furbaby. Thank u for doing a podcast on pet care in NL. Very informative.
We are so sorry for what you've been going through. Thank you for an informative episode.
I'm sorry for your loss.
My cats actually receive better and quicker health care than I do. And that's something I hear from a lot of pet owners.
My current cat had major dental surgery a couple of weeks ago. We had discussed the price and after the x-rays they told me it would be at the upper end of the agreed upon price. The surgery lasted longer than expected though, and it was more expensive because of that. But they didn't charge me more. I also had free refills of medications because it was part of the treatment. I have a really good vet, and I actually felt bad for not paying more because I know they already try to keep their prices as low as possible.
I'm really sad to hear Sushimi has passed away.
Wishing you all the best and my deepest condoleances.
When we moved to the Netherlands, we packed two weeks of our old wet food with us so we could mix with their new food and wean them to the new food here so that they didn’t get stomach upset.
😿😿😿Poor Sashimi... I have very mixed experiences with pet (cat) care. I really depends on the people and the company. In the end (for me) I figured a bigger clinic is better than smaller clinic. But even then, you really need to be careful who to trust. Once you're inside with a wounded cat, you are basically stuck with them.
My cat ended up at a clinic with (on first glance) steep prices for operations, but they more then make up for that, because ALL AFTERCARE is included. My cat tore his skin on his flank over 20cm (8 inches). They stitched him up, but when he yanked out the stitches (yes, even with a cone and all) and then got infected, we went back 20 times in 10 weeks. NO ADDITIONAL charge. That really makes a big difference.
So sorry you lost Sashimi!
Incidentally I only watched it now, because when you posted ot I had no time to listen. My friend's cat Chuck had gotten sick and I was helping taking care of him. Unfortunately we let him go last Monday.
That's the 3rd cat in 1,5 year for me.😪
Although i am more of a dog person i understand what you went through. When my sister died i had to find a solution for her four cats. Eventualy i found a shelter who would take them and they where very understanding. On a personal note. Who plays the bass and whats the record player hook up to.
Applesap, in your case apple cider, which is not as sweet as appelsap, with Maple syrup is yust such a good idea. For Winter evenings Applesap with cinnamon and cole and then serve it hot is so good. But with a bit of maple syrup sounds so good. Thank you for the inspiration.
yum!
Very sorry to hear about Sashimi! *hugs* From my limited experience with vets (I tagged along once when my dad took his dog to the vet for vaccines and a checkup), they do their best on customer service and getting a card from them is very nice. And I've enjoyed watching Dr. Pol when he was on Discovery Channel.
Yeah, ingredient lists on pet food aren't as detailed as food for human consumption. And pet health insurance has become a thing in the past several years. When my parents still had a dog, they didn't buy insurance but I do think they had a subscription at the local vet to get the yearly vaccines, checkups and treatments.
As for food, I'm a fish keeper and I mainly feed a brand which came recommended by some experienced fish keepers and is developed by a fish doctor from Belgium. It comes in many different varieties and pellet sizes, but mainly contain fish protein, grains, minerals and some other stuff. And my fish are doing well, have nice colour and love to eat it. They also make shrimp sticks which my freshwater shrimp absolutely dive into. As for fish foods, I also follow some fishtubers in the USA and Canada and some brands they have, are not available here. But some brands like Hikari go around the world. But for most fish, if it fits into their mouths and entices them to eat, they'll eat it. There are some species which have more specific needs, like fresh or frozen protein like blood worms. Puffer fish are often fed tougher foods because they have teeth that keep growing.
The pet store I usually go to is Diebo in Nieuwegein. You should check that out! Aside from a big aquarium section they have loads for cats, dogs and other animals. For the holidays, they sell loads of themed treats, toys and clothes, like Sinterklaas meat letters for dogs (instead of chocolate letters because chocolate is actually quite toxic for them), treats and stuff for cats, loads and loads. They also had a Halloween collection this year! You could take a train to Utrecht and a bus to Nieuwegein. There is a bus stop close by. They're next to a huge thrift store!
About prices when you buy from the vet, it’s the same thing as with other shops. Buying from a physical location is more expensive. But if we all stop buying from the vet; the vet has a trouble staying afloat
The animal hospital in Barendrecht also serves Rotterdam. My cat had a room for himself there for a few days, because he could be contagious
So sorry for missing your furry friend. Sashimi gave you a lot of love. What a great memory!! By the way, words with ui are never pronounced sounding German like the word Hause - house. - huis I know, not easy when your first language is English..... 🤩😻
You’ll find that the cleanliness standards at the animal hospitals are pretty universal. These are often chains and they operate on common standards and practices. Their furnishings and equipment are standardized too. They’ll also have specialists of various descriptions, like eye doctors and dermatologists etc.
We had a fat red tomcat some 20 years ago. He was a stray that just kept coming back (because my little brother kept giving him treats), and so, after a while, we kept him. We live in a 'rijtjeshuis' with a fairly large garden, but like a real drifter, he liked to roam about the neighborhood. I once saw him prowling in the grass at least half a mile from the house, and sometimes he didn't come home for days. We would have loved to have GPS tags to see where he went, but they didn't exist back then.
He was fairly picky about food. He only liked one brand of 'wet' (canned) and 'dry' (boxed) catfood. Occasionally, we bought some frozen fish, and cooked it for him. Once he caught the smell, he went completely mad. We had to put it out of reach to let it cool off. He also liked to drink water straight out of a running tap, and he also loved snow, which was a pity, because in the time he was with us, it snowed maybe 2 or 3 times.
We had 2 experiences with vets. The first was when he had a large scratch on his face (probably from a fight) that got infected, so he had to be treated for that. We had a vet only a block away, so that was convenient. The treatments weren't very expensive back then, so that wasn't a problem. The second time was when he was very ill. The vet had moved to an animal hospital in the same neighborhood, but much further away. The illness could not be cured, so he was euthanised and cremated. That was rather expensive, and we didn't have pet insurance.
I'm gonna miss the random appearance of your beloved cat. Hope you'll be able to remember all the good times.
Pro tip: bitiba is the same company as zooplus but cheaper!
ooh thank you!!!
Dutch for zoo is dierentuin, een guinea pig heet een cavia. Over konijnen gesproken: kennen jullie een Nederlands kerstlied Flappie van cabaretier Youp van ´t Hek?
Most actually say Dierentuin, Animal Garden
Sorry for your loss.
I never ever saw people with cats on a leash anywhere in the Netherlands.
it is weird that we’ve seen it as many times as we have
me neither but I only lived here for 32 years. And in a town with about 50k people.
Billyspeaks (youtube channel) who has also passed away now, was a US cat that was taken places on a leash.
As for leashes in the Netherlands, I think it is very uncommon outside of the Randstad. I think it’s more off and urban, appartment buildings kind of thing, when the cat has to go down several stairs or an elevator.
I see them regularly, but I live in a big city, so you see all kinds of things
Mostly people with expensive/rare cats do this.
I'm sorry to hear about Sashimi. Pets place has a store and is not only online. Food in stores are anyway cheaper then at the vets.
Vet costs really differ. Some practices will have ya pay an arm and a leg, others will ask half but will also be smaller (usually) and provide more basic-ish care (no specialized stuff but will do broken bones etc).
Many will also offer simple things like clipping nails for little money (like between 5 and 10 bucks a dog).
I have lived in Amsterdam for thirty years and seen a cat on a lead only two or three times. We have never had insurance for our cats. Our vet practice was privately owned and became part of a large chain when the head vet retired. I also get the impression (as with GPs) that now that there are more female vets they tend to work part-time. Costs have gone up a lot, but a) as with modern medicine for humans there is/are more sophisticated diagnostic equipment and treatment options and b) my personal opinion, venture capitalists have invested in this area because they know that we, the clients, are emotionally attached to our pets and they take advantage of this, and probably expect us to have pet insurance. On the other hand, the treatment and services, in my limited experience, because we have been lucky having fairly healthy cats, are excellent.
I discussed this with our vet who explained that vets, as with other medical professions, are not allowed to defend themselves publicly nor call out those owners who are free to criticise them in the media, and gain considerable exposure, but are ‘economical with the truth’ as to the circumstances which led to the high final bill.
My condolences guys❤ it's hard losing a pet❤
So sorry for your loss 😢
I wondered what hapopened. Even gone and checked this second channel to see if I missed uploads.
My condolences. its very hard to lose a family member. We recently lost our dog
Sorry too hear about Sashimi. Though you somewhat helped to afferm me pet care is ok.
Time to order some uien though considering the puisjes.
My sincere condolences on the passing of Sashimi, so sad to hear but losing a pet always hit any petlover. For me i lost a 3,5 year old bunny a week ago, and she is leaving behind her sister which i got a few years ago to add to my senior male bunny who now is about 9 years old (has some aging issues but he still goes strong).
While i think petcare and especially healthcare (and deathcare for that manner) drastically improved the past few decades in this country, it also comes with a cost which some may find absurd.
For my still living female bunny i had to take her to the vet when she was about 1y due to a blatter stone, and the bill quickly went up to around 900 euro because of imaging works and a following surgery ( a double one to be fair, i also chose to get her spayed at the same time).
The cost of cremation did went up heavily though the past few years. Around 3 years ago i paid 100 euro for a individual cremation for a bunny, these days those costs are literally doubled for the same service.
And i am also one of those people who walks around his cat on a leash when the weather allows it as i am living in an apartment building in Rotterdam, also did that with bunnies in the park and even guinea pigs years ago.
Oh nee! Dat klinkt als een ontzettend emotionele tijd voor jullie. Wat een gemis, zonder Sashimi 😢 hopelijk gaat het met Pants ondertussen wel goed.
Wat betreft de dierenverzekering: heb ik zelf ook niet. In dit geval ben ik het met jullie eens dat het een ‘scam’ is. Want oudere dieren of met een bepaalde voorgeschiedenis krijg je vaak ook bepaalde behandelingen alsnog niet voor vergoed, dan kun je dus beter zelf sparen voor ‘dure dierenartsen kosten’. Dat heb ik zelf met mijn kat Yama (ze is nu ongeveer 6 jaar) ook zo gedaan, zij moest al snel nadat ik haar adopteerde naar een dierenarts specialist in verband met hartproblemen (een hartecho) en logischerwijs had ik geen verzekering voor haar. En nu ze dus al dit in haar medische voorgeschiedenis heeft kan ik haar er ook niet meer voor verzekeren. :(
Sorry to hear about the loss of Sashime, and I hope you find out what’s the matter with your other kitty.
I sadly had a great experience with my vet. I understand that sentence does not make sense.
3,5 years ago, my sweet cat Nana, who I absolutely adored, suddenly fell ill. Of course, I had to go to the emergency vet, because it was at the weekend. It was a regular vet, but not my own. The costs were reasonable, I believe €80.
Unfortunately that didn’t solve her problems, so I had to take her to her regular vet, to figure out what was wrong with her. It turned out that she had cancer in her spleen, cue many visits, an emergency operation etc. All stressful as is, but at the exact same time, my car decided to completely break down for good. So for most of these appointments, I had to take a taxi. After one of those visits, my vet called to discuss further treatment and mentioned that they’d noticed that I was using taxis.
So, they offered for their intern to come pick my kitty and myself up from my house to them, and take us back. Even for the surgery, the girl just came to pick her up. They also kept me up to date, and geve me a report on how she was doing, plus how affectionate she was.
In the end, my sweet girl didn’t make it, she was gone in little over 2,5 weeks. But knowing how lovingly she was cared for by my vet was the only bit of consolation. They send condolence cards too, it’s such a sweet gesture.
One more thing to add, I had Nana cremated at the pet crematory. They were so incredibly kind as well, gave me all the time I needed to say my goodbyes, truly made me feel they understood their job.
thank you for sharing your story - and sorry for your loss ❤️
I am so sorry about Sashimi. It's so painful to lose a pet, sterkte!
I don't think I've ever been to (or heard about) a vet that was dirty or smelly. Like, even if our dog is on the examination table for a few minutes at most, for vaccinations, and has just stood there, they spray and wipe the table, etc.
We go to a local vet, that has recently merged with a lot of other clinics in the region, as a result the main office is now no longer the main office, and the emergency care outside office hours there is now relocated to another location much further away from us. though it does also mean that if we do have an emergency during office hours we can go to whichever location has room for us at that time.
Our previous dog had epilepsy and none of the treatments worked, so our vet ended up referring us to the university hospital to see a neurologist, and there we received the same good care we always get at our regular vet. It is also a teaching hospital so we got two students do the screening questions first, write everything down, and then repeated the conversation with the neurologist, who then reviewed the students' questions so we got to go through the whole thing three times.
In the end our dog didn't make it, he didn't really get out of one of his seizures, which were steadily getting worse and more frequent. Our regular vet sent us a card as well, and the neurologist sent us a personal email after we informed him about what happened. So a positive experience in a very sad time. The woman at the crematorium was also great and took the time to chat with us for almost half an hour, she asked us about our dog, what he was like, what we were planning on doing with the ashes, etc.
Pet insurance is pretty common and I'm really glad we got it, because our first dog really racked up the bills, and our current dog is allergic to several things, so he's getting up there with medication and injections as well. If we hadn't been insured we would have been paying a lot of bills ourselves.
We always take our dog with us on vacation, so we keep up to date with all vaccinations and tapeworm treatments etc, and that can be expensive too.
The wait and see thing is mostly with really common things like runny nose or fever. Like, if the fever isn't super high, and it's just a flu, then the treatment for flu is rest. And things like antibiotics are not only not effective against the flu, they would cause more antibiotic resistant bacteria. We are already on one of, if not our last option for antibiotics, so most doctors are really reluctant to prescribe them if they are not absolutely necessary.
Walking your 🐈⬛? Never seen this in The Netherlands…..
So sorry for your loss.
i can’t believe we’ve seen it more than once!
Same. Maybe in the big city but not here in Vlissingen (famous for it's beach houses 😄)
If you guys plan on getting a new baby pet, just get a (pet) insurance that suits your needs. It usually is cheaper to get one for a young animal than one of age.
I am so sorry to hear about you having to part with your cat. Most pet-owners hete see their pets as a true part of the family. Dog owners love to talk about their dogs here...walking your dog or cat is very good for social interaction. I had a great vet-practice, it is the little things they did that made me trust them 100%. People complaining about the costs? They do not realise what it costs to have a building, electra, research equipment etc etc just running....without cost of employers.
We do not even know what a simple conversation costs when we visit a specialist in a hospital. Adopting a pet is a very big commitment and yes it is expensive. I would never have adopted a dog if there was not an insurance to count on (low income). And even then I put money aside for the vaccinations, the 20% I had to pay for myself... Petcare in Nederland is great.
Some people still think that if they do not want to pay for an operation that is necessary that they will just get their pet euthanised.... That is no longer possible. You pay...or you have the pet signed over...
Those people off course do not deserve to have the lovely, heartwarming company of an animal that will be devoted to them...
And I completely understand that at times of stress your Dutch is failing.
(Which is by the way how many Dutch people feel when they have a tourist coming up to them and they are expected to speak English, because research (how much research was that?) says 80% of the people here speak English. (Off topic I know, but really, knowing some words is speaking English?)
About 12 years ago, I took on my two cats a pet insurance, both cats were outdoorcats. Although this was the perfect place for a cat owner, a neighborhood with about two cats an household average. Small streets, that not invites to speed up, quicker than 30 km. p/h.
Little did I know there would come 3 cats more in the next few years. But with my second cat (female) I did not to pay to much for her pet insurance... . But for my first cat I did, except for give him medicine against flea allergie.... never had to worry. Only when the cat had anemia, I had to go to the vet... When I heard it was only anemia (bloedarmoede), I was glad ... I thought this they can cure, just like with humans.... Well they could not cure him. Two minutes later I was kissing, petting and holding my Poeshka, while he was breathing his dying breath. I was baffled, those two or 3 minutes between regained hope...and feeling by best friends last breath
Another thing, I quess a city like your city, and where I live ,are different to each other about what the veterinarians can and cannot do.
The clinic in the town I live... they probablly are (I quess) somewhere between a clinic and an hospital. About 5 doctors (Male/Fem). And even more other employes. And even horses, cows and other cattle, can be examined here and probably cured. The fascilities are here, but hardly ever seen any horse there... but hey... I never go there except, when one of my cats is ill, or if I have to buy some medication.
I'm a bit late to the party, but about pet insurance: I have 2 cats. If I didn't have insurance for one of them, it'd have cost me about 4000 euros more last year than what it cost me now, due to hospital bills. (She had to go to the animal hospital in Utrecht because no normal vet could figure out what was wrong with her).
She's doing amazing now, but will never grow to the size of a normal cat.
I think I started hearing adverts for pet insurance on the radio about a year ago and never before that. It sounded a little scammy as there wasn't a need for it before.
Gecondoleerd met Sushimi . Het leven kan soms hard zijn. Nog 1 opmerking, het woord puistjes spreek je uit zoals een ui (onion) of uit. Het is niet pAUstjes maar pUIstjes. Ik weet, dit is niet gemakkelijk, heb een vriend die ook uit de US komt, die heeft het zelfde "probleem" gehad. Ga zo door, houd van jullie blogs. Succes.
Rest easy little one.. 🐾🐈⬛💜
😿 So sad, my condolances. Never gets easy, been through this before as well 😉
Insurance is not always worth it, depends highly what is wrong with your pets. Read through the conditions thoroughly as they are not always applicable for every disease. My cats are not insured, I just saved some money just in case.
My priorities have always beem: 1:Roof over our heads; 2:Food for cats; 3:Anything else.
My cats live mainly on Royal Canin kibbles, 'wet' food once or twice a week and lots of treats.
Probably the reason the ingredients for pet food are different is that out here pet food should be also suitable for human consumption. So the EU food standards will apply.
Mmmmm, kibble.
So very sorry for your loss, losing a fur family is hard. 😢
Sorry to hear your cat past away. We are lucky that our dierenarts, vet, is just around the corner for our 3 year old cat Neko. The yearly check and vaccination cost only €35,- and the identy chip was free because of a program in Rotterdam when chipping is free in november. A few weeks ago Neko was breathing strangely from time to time. Made an appointrment to come the next week and we had to try to give Neko some childrens Bisolvon in advance. That cured her and for the visit to the vet we were charged only €1,60 for the relaxing capsules so she didn't fight us to get in the cage.
Vaccination and check up for 35€?? Where is this vet?
@inge6280 yeah, I am almost considering getting 2 new kittens with a vet like that😂. I had 2 cats for 18 years, 2 sisters. They had to be euthanized because they were getting old and multiple health problems within a couple of months apart from each other. I was upset losing them and liked having cats, but the hairs all around my house and the high vet costs made me decide to not take a new cat/kitten for now.
@@inge6280 Rotterdam, Wolphaertsbocht
I'm very sorry about the loss of your furbaby.
Are the costs really the same as in the US? when I see what they are paying in the US, I can't imagine it is the same.
Btw I don't know anyone of my friends and family in the netherlands that have pet insurance, and no vet ever asks me for the insurance. To me its really a scam. You have to pay a lot extra, next to the insurance itself. And you can't have insurance for a cat older than 6 years.
yeah, vet care in the US isn’t cheap
does the pet insurance stop after the cat is 6 or can you just not sign them up after they’re 6?
@@buncharted2you can definitely sign them up afterthought age of 6. I just sign up my 10yo cat
15:30 And a “pet” is a “cap”.
Recipe for the mulled cider?
flevosap, cloves, cinnamon stick, ginger, orange slices :)
We have mandatory health insurance for ourselves so I think it's a given to us that if you add a member to the family you also get them health insurance, be it a baby or a pet. At least you're the first people I've come across without pet insurance. That said, really sorry to hear about the cat :(
many people give these small pets to their children to learn taking care of animals and teach them responsibility, not sure if it's a typical cultural dutch thing
The vet tech at the reception getting nervous at you not knowing the cost yet probably also has to do with some people getting angry about the price. 😬
Also re: complaints online about the price, some are indeed silly but there’s also been an influx of large companies investing in vet practices and driving up the prices. Independent practices are getting more and more rare. Cost of living is already skyrocketing and now many vet practices are charging stupid amounts. “To improve quality” they say, but not all vet practices need all state of the art equipment. It’s fine to have a small local vet that does just simple things for cheap. 😒
the laws around keeping certain animals as pets has chabged a lot in recent years. many exotic species have been put on a black list. like 10 years ago it wasnt impossible to look out of your window and seeing someones escaped serval lol
I never buy my 2 dogs' dog food from those big brands, and I never feed them kibble, because they're basically all trash and unhealthy for dogs (and other pets). Those greedy companies only care about profits, instead of animal wellbeing.
Kibble wasn't invented until like the 1950s when household pets became more common, and it was basically invented to cater to people because it made feeding pets efficient.
Most kibble is made from grain, which many pets can't digest properly and are often even allergic to. And they're baked at such high temperatures, that almost all important nutrients are gone (vitamins, minerals, etc.). This then will negatively impact your pets immune system because they're always deprived of those nutrients, which leads to a weak immune system and makes them prone to get sick easily.
With kibble, you're basically giving them baked air that gives them tummy aches all day every day.
one guy in the neighborhood has a huge pig that plays with dogs in the dog enclosure. 😅
Ik miste jullie al, was ik niet gewend van jullie omdat de podcast altijd in de tijd window is. Maar ook mijn condoleance voor jullie verlies. Ik wens jullie heel veel sterkte en energie toe Michelle & Alex.
oh no, sorry to hear that.
About healthcare misconception that you only get paracetamol; that is true for lighter things but the moment you have something serious you will get the whole thing :)
And then there is the Diergaarde, of which there is only one: Blijdorp
Sad news, indeed. Sterkte in de strijd.
So sad to hear you've lost Sashimi.
So sorry about your lovely cat…😿
Bitiba is the cheaper sister of Zooplus…
Flevosap is top
Pet doctors were all independent. But since a couple of years they are overrun / bought out by a large organisation driven by profit profit profit. Prices sky rocketed in only a few years. Here is a tip: find a farm docter. They are still affordable.
Zits!
Condoleances
Pet insurance is totally not common in the Netherlands
gecondoleerd met Sushimi
Puistjes zijn pimples in het Nederlands dus ja unic woord van de dag
Cats that have food allergies, say what now? How bout feeding your cats true (raw) food instead of (factory) fodder, no allergies will bother your cats... I have two brothers, Mitch and Midas, they are thriving on (raw) food and (using the catflap) are very active outdoors.....
My condolences with Sashimi.
I had to hear the Dutch word 5 times before I understood it. The Dutch ui sound is hard to pronounce for non Dutch, just keep practicing.
Hoe kan een pet take care of a pet..😂
Cats are killers, cute killers, but killers.
Not all of them…
@@junipermeisje6300 Yes, all of them. When you let them out at night, a cat will do cat things.
Then you don‘t know my cat. Never even asks to go outside when it‘s dark, lately (he‘s getting older) he doesn‘t stray more than four meters from the door. (Since he‘s only got one I, he‘s rather scared of the neighbour‘s cats) Still wants to go outside daily though and really enjoys just sitting somewhere close by.
I'm a live and let live, express what you want, person - but in this instance, your choice of videos is inappropriate. Yes, cats can be killers. It's how they survive - like every carnivore. However this is not the place for such a comment. Michelle and Alex made this video to share their love of dieren, especially katten. They poured their hearts and souls, including their pain and grief, into a loving documentary to help other people. There are other sources to express your thoughts about cats. It's very inappropriate for this video.
@@2000mcc2003 Tell that to dhe birds.