An interesting thing about the 75mm/55mm Waffe gun, it uses the Gerlich principle. The Gerlich principle deals with driving a shell down a bore that shrinks in size the further down the barrel you go. The "squeeze bore" design uses degradable driving bands on the shell to provide a seal to the barrel, which decreases the amount of gasses that escape around the shell, as well as building an increasing amount of pressure behind the shell. This means a relatively short barrel weapon can achieve a very high velocity. There is a drawback, however, the shells are complicated and costly to produce, and the gun barrels wore out quicker than conventional weapons. This gun was real, look up "Gerlich gun". It looks similar to the 75mm PaK 40. (To explain further, the actual projectile itself doesn't shrink, it is a set size, however, the driving bands built onto the projectile wear down. As the barrel and driving bands shrink, more pressure is built up in an increasingly concentrated area, which accelerates the shell quicker than a normal single bore gun design. As I said earlier, this really wears down the squeeze bore guns, and it was important to keep the rifling grooves clean constantly.)
Hey, that's pretty cool. I fancied myself a well researched gun guy, I didn't know that, though. Could this principle be applied to the gun on the E50M?
Josh Bloomfield It could be applied to any gun, but it requires a re-design of the system. Lets say for example, the gun on the E50M, is a 105mm. This is a set bore, meaning the entire length of the gun barrel will have a 105mm bore diameter. If we were to re-design the barrel, we could create a 105mm/88mm barrel. Meaning, the bore diameter is initially 105mm, however, this bore diameter shrinks to its final size gradually down the length of the barrel. The breach would be 105mm, the end of the muzzle would be 88mm. So, in order for this to work, an 88mm shell would be designed with driving bands that start out at 105mm, then as the shell travels down the barrel, these bands would eventually wear down to the final shell size of 88mm. It's also arguable, that because the breach will be accepting a shell which is originally 105mm in size before it degrades, that we could also use a re-designed 105mm shell casing which packs more propellant. So the advantages of the Gerlich principle are pretty clear, it's very close to how a sabot round functions, but a sabot round (APDS) is more effective. It basically comes down to this; More propellant gasses pushing on an increasingly small surface area = more PSI on the tail end of the shell, which increases the velocity. The driving bands form a nearly perfect seal to the barrel as it travels down. The Gerlich principle is excellent, however, it overheats the gun barrels quickly. Oddly enough, most people don't realize that the quicker you fire a tank's cannon, the more prone to overheating it is, particularly in high velocity rifled guns. Friction is a part of any gun system as well as the hot gasses, so if you fire any weapon fast enough, it will overheat. The Gerlich principle is more prone to this, however, due to the increased friction of squeezing those driving bands down the barrel.
Jake Hefferman Very interesting indeed. It all makes sense. You're correct on it being very similar to a discarding sabot round. It applies the same principle over distance. I can see that this would make a great 8.8 cm gun. Even better than that on the tiger 2. I can also see that it would not be economically viable, due to the cost of making these shells. But even if it was viable, it is still not reliable. You would have to fire it much slower than a standard bore gun. When there are hundreds of tanks in one battle, it may not be possible to take your time... Cool principle, but has its drawbacks.
I still miss this tank... wish they add it as an alternate build for the panther (turret, 7,5 waffe and powerful engine) but as a medium. That would not mess up the game in any way and they wont have to make a new light line etc.
I've had this tank a long time (how I got to the Leopard 1) and have always loved it, even before the RoF buff. Its armour and weight I've found give it an edge when it come against other light tanks, as it can always ram for a lot of damage and an AMX 13 75 for example can struggle to get through it. Though with 2 new tier 7 light tanks with 170mm of penetration it's maybe not quite as effective as it was.
The "Awful Panther" as it is often informally known is actually a pretty decent tank. Of course there are tier VII lights which are objectively better, but when it all comes down to it, the grind of the Aufklärungspanzer Panther is not nearly as brutal as the community may lead you to believe and is actually quite enjoyable for someone who knows how to play a light tank.
I always take away a lot of really good stuff from these reviews QB. All your work on this game is top notch and as long as I am playing it I will be watching your videos. Keep up the good work sir! :)
If you ever question whether he knows what he's doing with the tanks he reviews - 3 marks of excellence on the barrel. Says enough I'd say. Thanks for the review QuickyBaby; it's good to inside scoop on these things without having to fully research them to test them.
deadpan237 This is why I need to pay more attention (which you would think I would have caught since I have one on my Jg88). Thanks for catching that. Judging from his games though, hopefully the point still stands.
Henry Wiseman Any 150mm gun pointed at this thing is going to kill it anyways, overmatching is kinda irrelevant. It's like swatting a fly with a television.
KV-2 has (I think) 86mm pen. I was foolish enough to aim at the hull, and did about 340 damage instead of the average 910. The armour isn't THAT useless ;D
*sniff sniff* I'm going to miss this *tear* tank.. The dastardly SP lC is.. is... *multiple tears* replacing it.. Seriously though. This tank is UNIQUE. If your derp gun doesn't derp the enemy arty, ram the SHIT out of them, same with other lights! And the regular gun is GREAT too with that DPM! The new piece of shit coming out has a complete garbage autoloader, and a long ass reload 90mm gun. It's also extremely slow compared to this beast. I'm going to miss it so much.. I'm on a spree of games, just did 3.8k damage, and ram killed the last AFK member making it my first 13 kill game. this tank.. *tears galore* *sniffling madness*
MrDiCapro It's extinct, gone. It was replaced by the SP lC mockery, they don't plan on making it a premium or anything. Not putting it in any other line or anything, it's gone. Really sad
I grinded out the Auf. Panther in the patch before the new LTs hit, I loved it the whole way down and managed to get an Ru-251 on the day the patch hit. However, as much fun as the Auf. Panther is, the Bullydog is far more competitive and far more useful on the battlefield in pubs.
Ok, someone help me out here. I have noticed that on every single video, Quickybaby asks questions at the end such as "would you have done..." "would you pick (this) over (that) and why?.." and a lot of people will give their opinions, yet he never responds to anyone. I really like Quicky, but I'm a tad annoyed that he never acknowledges his fan base on youtube. Am I looking too much into it? Is he asking these questions to make it look like he is going to respond or is he doing it with the simple intention to get comment conversations going between just his fans?
fck this google sht How busy could he be? His job is youtube and streaming on twitch. It's not like this is his side hobby. This is his bread and butter. I am just thinking maybe he can learn a thing or two from Jingles. Jingles will occasionally answer questions on youtube (he has for me), and even use some of those questions to make content for his "Mingles with Jingles" on Mondays. It's nice knowing that Jingles may answer your questions, but Quicky? Not a chance. I really like the guy, I hope he starts interacting with his TH-cam community the same way he does with his Twitch community.
Darude Sandstorm QB doesn't ask those question so he can review your answer. He does it to start a discussion in community. And he can't possibly answer question from people here. It would take too much time. This clip is 4h old, and it already have 100 comments. If reading, thinking about answer and answering those would even take 1-2min each, it would take over an hour for him to get through it. And if he really did start answering comments, there would be shitload more comments from people. Just impossible task.
Darude Sandstorm I read all the comments - you guys, and your opinions, interest me a lot, but I can't reply to everything. I use your feedback to gauge what parts you enjoyed and if there was anything that was unpopular. I have written and defended a PhD while doing what I do in the last 3 years as well as having a fiancée who just finally got entrance into the UK so I do have a life outside of this :) While you guys mean a hell of a lot to me I can't reply to everyone.
Two quick ideas on reviews in the future. First, I like the format you have where you show how the tank compares to other similar tanks. But it would be very interesting to me if you took that to the next level and showed replays for those tanks and talked about the differences. Second, it would be nice to also talk about the "economics" of the tank after a replay. If the replay required you to spend a lot of credits then share that with us so we can use that as a factor. I like the review, just a few thoughts I had while watching.
Wait, right before ramming the T-43 QB did a 642 HP shot at him. First I though that somebody else shot him first, but the damage log mod says that he did all of those 642 damage. Then I though it was HE, but this tank carries none. What the hell happened there?
Wouldn't it make somewhat more sense to review mostly tier9/10 tanks as a lot of people are interested in how well/badly the tanks they are grinding for are performing? sure enough, quite a few of your reviews are in that region but i'd really to see you review all the tier 10s before you start with exocit stuff like the aufklärungs panther
My moments with this tank was beautiful, just face other light with your frontal armor and crash them all to dead and now i got the Ru with his awesome gun, i love the german light tech tree.
As much as I enjoy my Awful Panther, I'll agree that there are many better tier 7 lights out there. But as you found, it's still better than most people give it credit for... and the rams are just sooo fun!
i have driven a lot of the tier 7 lights (all except the m41 bulldog and the t71) and i have to say this tank isnt terrible its just not quite as good as its competitors but its a ramming god in comparison to the others.
marTin X i had a type 64 kill themselves on me for full hp and i took i think 120 damage from it. also the lttb cant ram but wow its maneuverability and speed is insane. also i just got the ru-251 havent driven it yet but i just got the top engine from the indien panzer lately so i just need the money for equipment then i should be at home in the fastest light in the game :)
Guess I'll have to pick this one up at some point myself, never saw the use in it but with the Aufkl.Pz. in the line now there is. I used to hate this vehicle for what it had done to my beloved VK2801 (having it nerfed beyond repair) which is also why I never bothered to get it in the first place. Apparently the Failpanther is not so fail after all...
Unrelated point, but I got a lovely arty kill in my ELC AMX today. I was driving along towards the enemy cap circle, as you do, when I spotted the arty perched strangely on the side of a hill. ELC going slightly downhill at 70kph? No problem, I said, and did a fancy-ass powerslide up the hill, yes, UP, and shot the bastard. I don't feel bad bragging about how badass it was, because I'm a crap player usually :)
Hey qb can you do A Tinkerview on the T 71 I have been watching this replay /Tank review to compare it to the T71 be one and I can't want to see how it worked like is different between them and I have found my favorite is the D 71 because the autoloader if you areare rushed by a enemy you can quickly damages of and run away or quickly put off shots as covering fire or just sitting on a hill putting a clipping to someone and then going to reload could you can use the clip to do a mass amount of damage and then you can then you stop and get the realtor after inspecting constantly do damage but I feel like it's a decent we would've one person just popped out you can punish them a lot more than with the awful panther
Hi QuickyBaby I have a question I am looking for a mobile sniper and think about the German medium E 50 line but I saw a lot of bad opinion about panther I Also I thought about Lepoard line but I'm afraid the lack of armor. What are you recommending for not too experienced player?
armor is quite important cause i was driving my VK 2801 if i was in lightly armored LTs i would have died cause of arty i only recieved around 200 dmg from a GW panther
Just noticed that Wargaming has decided to let its console players keep the Tier VII German Light, the aufklarungspanzer as a premium. Could we make some noice to get that option on the PC game aswell? :)
Enjoyed this review as all other ones. But I have request. The maus is soon coming to Xbox and I would love if you could do a review on the vk4502b as it has been buffed and I haven't seen you make a review of that tank. I would be grateful if you can do that.
I tried so hard to like this tank. I really want the RU251 and the VK 28.01 is one of my favorite tanks, but this tank seems so sluggish and it's so larger. Also why the hell did I have to research the second turret considering it looks exactly the same as the VK28.01 and has the exact same armor and view, nothing seems different.
I managed to get 2 games in this tank before it was removed :'( In my first game I survived an arty hit point blank to the face and ram killed 2 FV 304's, while being totally stock. Only 2 games... But I will miss it.
Keep up the good work QuickyBabyTV . you make great videos. And you have helped make me be a better player, no where near you mind you, but I always try to apply everything you show us. Thank you.
Nice review QB! Now how the hell did you do 642 damage with that APCR shell just before ramming that T-43? I watched that about 5 times in a row. Maybe in the replay the shots from others that come in simultaneously are shown as your damage? I was like shiiiiiit! Nice ram dmg anyway :)
hey there QB, just a request. you have done many reviews of different tanks, but may i request that can you review a tank ( any tier, LT,MT or HT), but play it on at least 3 different map? so many changes now in tanks and maps that your review 2 years ago etc..may not be applicable.
another very good review. I am about too buy the aufflpanzer and picked up a lot of helpful info. I had a walker bulldog and not being a natural light tank player I did not rate it at all. I am grinding the new missions which are great and make us play tanks we do not normally play, and you are right in a previouse vid about russion arty how you can be one shotted by a su 14. am looking forward too playing my new tank, keep up the fantastic work.
The tank still has a lot of problems and most of them have to do with scouting. It's just not a good scout, be it passive of active. For both there are better alternatives. You just can't do stuff other light tanks can get away with, especially in tier 10. One wont be happy playing it as dedicated scout. That said I like it, but that's probably because german meds around that tier are a bit sluggish and you have to get to the light tanks to get a mobile tank. It's more fun than the normal panther that's for sure. When you do good, often it's not due to the strengths of the tank but instead despite it's weaknesses. In my opinion, the tank would do better without scout matchmaking or by turning it into a medium that keeps camo while moving. Wargaming should look for a way to give this tank a real role if they want to keep it as light tank.
Just bought back the Aufklarungspanzer to grind the tier 8 but cannot say I like it Its the turret really I mean if the idea was to create a light tank then there was no need to design this they could have taken the VK3002 M and put the 900 hp engine into it. That would have been a much better light tank. Its playable but not a tank I would choose to play if I didnt have to.
Don't say this joke of a tank is good OpBaby! You could do 1500 damage average in a cardboard box equipped with a lugger pistol, a 3cc model engine and three bicycle wheels. This crappy vehicle is all about trollness of WG devs. There are a small minority who can use this, but for non-professional players this is real pain. A fat barn with a useless peashooter on it, that swalows all your money if you want to penetrate, medium tank mobility and meaningless armor against those guns you will meet. Sounds fun? Enjoy then.
You forgot to mention, that this craptank has camouflage value close to Panther (medium tank). Everybody can see you as soon as you come closer than 300m. It as anything BUT a scout.
Hello QuickyBaby, I like your videos, learn some things and have fun with them. Could you tell me what the inspector tanks do you use? If possible send me the link to download. I want to download an inspector tank but do not know which is reliable, as there are several. Already appreciate. Congratulations for the great videos!
DraKoNiuKaS ;] You are probably right unfortunatly but one can only try. I think ignoring the lower tiers is regrettable. I enjoy playing all the levels and have made a point of keeping the very best 2 tanks for each level just to have the option of playing lower levels which I do both for fun and for money making reason (no premium account!)
well im pretty much like QB i find low tier battles boring and unexciting and i tend to ignore them... people play very differently in lower tiers and i really dont like the fact that pretty much all tanks are derpy, blind, die in 1-2 shots from certain tanks. they're either really underpowered or overpowered...
oh, i hate it so much, and i had to play through it twice, first to get my Indian-panzer and now to get my ru251. it is far less competitive than the other tier 7 tanks. it got to the point where i would just drive it with the derp gun and ram any chance i got, for average players, i do not recommend this tank. and i'm confused as to why you didn't mention that it did carry a very competitive derp gun
EirikXL i have a 56% win rate in my 59-16 - reason? abuse the absurd camo - the minimal size and the crazy turning of the little bugger The auf panthers gun is fairly useless in a t10 game unless you camp, snipe and no-one can see you - and with the camo values of the auf panther... good luck with that - I'd rather pack 500 burst to kill any arty and be mobile + invisible - that be in a panther
fun fact the 3cm (30mm) autocannon on the luchs has 10mm more penetration that the 76mm on the 59-16 the 59-16 is 2 tier higher...xD (but the 59-16 just looks soo cool if only the wz-131/132 were just as small they would wreak face^^)
This review did not cover the tank's real gameplay with the howitzer I did not play like a sniper with this tank, because of the howitzer. The Auf. Panther becomes a scout hunter once you arm the derp-gun and ram and penetrate wit HE shells the enemy light tanks. I have been able to take around 950 HP from an AMX 13 90 ONLY by ramming while being on even terrain- howitzer for weight, Spalliner for ramming damage reduction and Controlled impact for causing more ramming damage and taking less. Even Russian mediums can be harmed by ramming from the Auf. Panther. This tanks has armor, but you have to use it as a weapon, not a shield. With be build I recommend for this tank is: Howitzer, Spalliner, Vents, Rammer (you are a scout hunter, a damage dealer, not a scout), Controlled impact -> Clutch braking -> Off-road driving (if you get to a 4th skill, you can go for BIA), everything else can be set however you want. Now with Waffentragers and new light tanks, the howitzer is even more effective and threatening for more tanks. Scout hunting and harassing - these are the real roles of this tank. No lame sniping with hardly adequate penetration and the tank is too slow and big for scouting. I played this tank PRETENDING to be a scout, just so I can meet with the enemy scouts and take them out with an HE shell and a ram. In other cases I just trolled the other enemies, making them do stupid things. This is one of my most favorite tanks, but now it is replaced by the Ru 251. I miss my Aufklärungspanzer Panther.
I played Awful.Panther even before RU 251 was released. I prefer that howitzer (hetzer gun) with HE. It is good against light tanks, artys, WaffenTrägers... and it is good for detracking / critical hits.
He has, it's old though and doesn't use tank inspector...I dought he'll rebuy the m103 since he already has the t110e5. Honestly, ur better off using the Conqueror or just getting the e5 since the m1's marshmallow turret is it's biggest weakness... aside from the uber weak ammo rack lower plate.
Tob Fu uhm... m103 needs a buff really and i know that... i have it... i just want people to be a little better at it.. i have 2 marks on my tank already... and the m103 got serouis nerfs with its HD model... the upper hull armour slope was actually worse after the HD model
o3zman in my opinion the conqueror sucks a lot, no side armor no frontal turret armor (200 pen is enough to get through the front). But the thing is I don't know how different the conqueror is compared to the Xbox version.
I wish they would sell this tank Soon. I had it on the console just before they removed it, but have since switched to the pc and now i no longer have it. It was fun to use, and loved ramming things to death,especially higher tier and heavier tanks lol.
Also i had many instances when enemies made the mistake of trying to ram me and have it backfire, often resulting in their death by impact or by my added shots afterwards. always a good feeling :)
I've been using Aufkl. Panther for about 5 months (ago) but decided to sell it for garage slot (stupid moves!) Nonetheless, based on my experience playing APanther (ok I have a hardtime typing auflklrunpansar panther, I'll typed it as APanther ok?), it's closer to be like playing style of Cromwell and Comet - which I have playing both and sold em, for the same reason as above. Quick 7.5/5.5cm cannon, good penetration in hitting T8-T10 weak spots (gold rounds might be needed tho) and fast. Big body, yes, but that wasn't necessarily the weak value of the tank. But lets start with the bad side from me first. The bad side, is obviously the armor. Even though it's angled, it's not sufficient at all to tanking T8-T10 cannon. Almost all cannon from T8-T10 will penetrate you. Almost. Basically, you don't wanna take hit at all. Other than that, the view range of the tank is not really awesome. 390m, T10 tanks could spot you first with their 400m+ view range. That, if you wanna spot better, you gonna take binocs and view range skills and playing active & passive scout. Being an active scout, that isn't a problem too much (German uberengine!). But passive scouting? Oh no, the camo rating isn't quite good enough! Camo rating isn't worst, but it's not making this APanther a good passive scout. You have better tank to play as passive scout than this. Also, APanther is large tank, it's big so you can't hide in ruins to have cover unlike other smaller (light) tanks. But that's all I can say anything about the downside of APanther. The good side is, also teh ultimate powah of APanther, ENGINE POWER! 900hP is really really awesome! With that, you can circledance every heavy tanks with slow turn (turrets too) and giving them a nice dosage of torture! Assuming they don't have backup, you can finish them and still having full HP left to fight another occasion. In short, the main "strength" of APanther is the engine. Don't let it broke, repair it as soon as you get engine damage. You lose the engine, you lose it's main power. Without your engine, your speed are the same like other fast medium tank. Still fast, but circledance HTs would be risky. Another thing is, the cannon. APanther's 7.5/5.5 cannon has better DPS than Comet! It also has better penetration too. WG already buffed the reload of 7.5/5.5 in few patches before, and that's why it has better DPS compared to Comet. Take rammer, get BiS (and if you want to, get Vents) now you have the best circledancing tanks in WoT. Radio range is quite awesome for T7 LT. 710m range, it's enough without any crew trained with radio range skills.Oh and, elevation degree, you have -10 to 20 elevation, that is pretty awesome! Also, the HP of APanther is higher than other T7 LT. For me, I'm happy to get the APanther before, and regret it for selling it and replace it's slot with WZ-131. (WZ131 is good tank, I like it too, but if asked to choose only 1 between WZ and AP, I would get AP for a ride anyday) And playing in APanther as close range brawler, it's totally fun. It's not overpowered tank, it's light tank. Don't take hit and keep harassing - along with active scouting - is your main goal with it. Low damage cannon, but don't let it fooling you. Keep your tank safe until mid-game, and you can unleash the power of Panther!
So what happens when you are left with a fast tank against a bunch of very slow tanks... The match would never end. I thought the same thing before but then thought about the balancing factors that the timer and the cap introduce. It just isn't possible for them to create a mode like that no matter how annoying it is to get capped out by a moronic tomato or have the timer run down because of a cowardly light tank.
well, I've only played two light tanks (59-16 and WZ-131) and I feel that the WZ-131 is way better than the other light tanks on its tier... Oh well, I know, I have no experience :D
An interesting thing about the 75mm/55mm Waffe gun, it uses the Gerlich principle. The Gerlich principle deals with driving a shell down a bore that shrinks in size the further down the barrel you go. The "squeeze bore" design uses degradable driving bands on the shell to provide a seal to the barrel, which decreases the amount of gasses that escape around the shell, as well as building an increasing amount of pressure behind the shell. This means a relatively short barrel weapon can achieve a very high velocity. There is a drawback, however, the shells are complicated and costly to produce, and the gun barrels wore out quicker than conventional weapons. This gun was real, look up "Gerlich gun". It looks similar to the 75mm PaK 40. (To explain further, the actual projectile itself doesn't shrink, it is a set size, however, the driving bands built onto the projectile wear down. As the barrel and driving bands shrink, more pressure is built up in an increasingly concentrated area, which accelerates the shell quicker than a normal single bore gun design. As I said earlier, this really wears down the squeeze bore guns, and it was important to keep the rifling grooves clean constantly.)
Didn't know that, why isn't this comment getting more upvotes? Thanks!
Hey, that's pretty cool. I fancied myself a well researched gun guy, I didn't know that, though. Could this principle be applied to the gun on the E50M?
Josh Bloomfield It could be applied to any gun, but it requires a re-design of the system. Lets say for example, the gun on the E50M, is a 105mm. This is a set bore, meaning the entire length of the gun barrel will have a 105mm bore diameter. If we were to re-design the barrel, we could create a 105mm/88mm barrel. Meaning, the bore diameter is initially 105mm, however, this bore diameter shrinks to its final size gradually down the length of the barrel. The breach would be 105mm, the end of the muzzle would be 88mm. So, in order for this to work, an 88mm shell would be designed with driving bands that start out at 105mm, then as the shell travels down the barrel, these bands would eventually wear down to the final shell size of 88mm. It's also arguable, that because the breach will be accepting a shell which is originally 105mm in size before it degrades, that we could also use a re-designed 105mm shell casing which packs more propellant. So the advantages of the Gerlich principle are pretty clear, it's very close to how a sabot round functions, but a sabot round (APDS) is more effective. It basically comes down to this; More propellant gasses pushing on an increasingly small surface area = more PSI on the tail end of the shell, which increases the velocity. The driving bands form a nearly perfect seal to the barrel as it travels down. The Gerlich principle is excellent, however, it overheats the gun barrels quickly. Oddly enough, most people don't realize that the quicker you fire a tank's cannon, the more prone to overheating it is, particularly in high velocity rifled guns. Friction is a part of any gun system as well as the hot gasses, so if you fire any weapon fast enough, it will overheat. The Gerlich principle is more prone to this, however, due to the increased friction of squeezing those driving bands down the barrel.
Jake Hefferman If I'm not mistaken, the Littlejohn adapter for the Matilda's 2pdr gun used the same principle?
Jake Hefferman Very interesting indeed. It all makes sense. You're correct on it being very similar to a discarding sabot round. It applies the same principle over distance. I can see that this would make a great 8.8 cm gun. Even better than that on the tiger 2. I can also see that it would not be economically viable, due to the cost of making these shells. But even if it was viable, it is still not reliable. You would have to fire it much slower than a standard bore gun. When there are hundreds of tanks in one battle, it may not be possible to take your time... Cool principle, but has its drawbacks.
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YAY, awful panther review
***** It is called the awful panther so i don't have to care about the ä
a bit off topic, rsop? why? isnt that a pure finish clan
have you even played the LTTB? its very much epic
you are in rsop? do you even speak their language?
GIVE ME BACK MY AUFKLARUNGSPANZER PANTHER!
Looks like you're getting it
@@_bravo_8581 but it’s gonna be nerfed to hell lol
@@magicyoshi11 true but nothing is final yet. I'm not excited about the stats either though.
Well you can buy it today in black market
@James Smith I got one probably a waste of credits but its fun to bully lower tiers with it
RIP auklpanther
@@crumbyk7798 i got it black market 11M credits
I still miss this tank... wish they add it as an alternate build for the panther (turret, 7,5 waffe and powerful engine) but as a medium. That would not mess up the game in any way and they wont have to make a new light line etc.
Guss that they are bringing it back!
I've had this tank a long time (how I got to the Leopard 1) and have always loved it, even before the RoF buff. Its armour and weight I've found give it an edge when it come against other light tanks, as it can always ram for a lot of damage and an AMX 13 75 for example can struggle to get through it. Though with 2 new tier 7 light tanks with 170mm of penetration it's maybe not quite as effective as it was.
27:00 -- "We were able to stick to him like butter." - QB 2014
The "Awful Panther" as it is often informally known is actually a pretty decent tank.
Of course there are tier VII lights which are objectively better, but when it all comes down to it, the grind of the Aufklärungspanzer Panther is not nearly as brutal as the community may lead you to believe and is actually quite enjoyable for someone who knows how to play a light tank.
Look how much better it used to be, crazy APCR pen, DPM, and better mobility and view range it has now. Hopefully WG returns it to its former glory.
I always take away a lot of really good stuff from these reviews QB. All your work on this game is top notch and as long as I am playing it I will be watching your videos. Keep up the good work sir! :)
is that clip at 29:17 from your other video. the revenge one...
you did the same thing, same map, same camo, same crushed tank on the revenge video... i hope you dont save clips.
If you ever question whether he knows what he's doing with the tanks he reviews - 3 marks of excellence on the barrel. Says enough I'd say. Thanks for the review QuickyBaby; it's good to inside scoop on these things without having to fully research them to test them.
deadpan237 This is why I need to pay more attention (which you would think I would have caught since I have one on my Jg88). Thanks for catching that.
Judging from his games though, hopefully the point still stands.
I never aim at weakspots of Aufkl.Panther, because 50-85 mm armor is not enough to block tier 8-10 tanks from killing you
50-85 armor means you can't get triple overmatched. Meaning you can angle and create bounce and ricochet opportunities.
Jukelo 150mm+ guns will overmatch sides.
Henry Wiseman Any 150mm gun pointed at this thing is going to kill it anyways, overmatching is kinda irrelevant. It's like swatting a fly with a television.
Jukelo Lower hull is 40mm so that gets overmatched by 122mm guns, something I learned the hard way in my panther.
KV-2 has (I think) 86mm pen. I was foolish enough to aim at the hull, and did about 340 damage instead of the average 910. The armour isn't THAT useless ;D
*sniff sniff*
I'm going to miss this *tear* tank..
The dastardly SP lC is.. is... *multiple tears* replacing it..
Seriously though. This tank is UNIQUE. If your derp gun doesn't derp the enemy arty, ram the SHIT out of them, same with other lights! And the regular gun is GREAT too with that DPM! The new piece of shit coming out has a complete garbage autoloader, and a long ass reload 90mm gun. It's also extremely slow compared to this beast. I'm going to miss it so much.. I'm on a spree of games, just did 3.8k damage, and ram killed the last AFK member making it my first 13 kill game. this tank..
*tears galore*
*sniffling madness*
This tank no longer exists? I thought they're just put it out off leopard line
MrDiCapro
It's extinct, gone. It was replaced by the SP lC mockery, they don't plan on making it a premium or anything. Not putting it in any other line or anything, it's gone. Really sad
i played this tank so much hate it's vk 28.01's turret and gun
I miss my Aufklärungspanzer Panther. I really think it was retarded that they removed it.
I grinded out the Auf. Panther in the patch before the new LTs hit, I loved it the whole way down and managed to get an Ru-251 on the day the patch hit. However, as much fun as the Auf. Panther is, the Bullydog is far more competitive and far more useful on the battlefield in pubs.
Ok, someone help me out here. I have noticed that on every single video, Quickybaby asks questions at the end such as "would you have done..." "would you pick (this) over (that) and why?.." and a lot of people will give their opinions, yet he never responds to anyone. I really like Quicky, but I'm a tad annoyed that he never acknowledges his fan base on youtube. Am I looking too much into it? Is he asking these questions to make it look like he is going to respond or is he doing it with the simple intention to get comment conversations going between just his fans?
darude - sandstorm
fck this google sht How busy could he be? His job is youtube and streaming on twitch. It's not like this is his side hobby. This is his bread and butter. I am just thinking maybe he can learn a thing or two from Jingles. Jingles will occasionally answer questions on youtube (he has for me), and even use some of those questions to make content for his "Mingles with Jingles" on Mondays. It's nice knowing that Jingles may answer your questions, but Quicky? Not a chance. I really like the guy, I hope he starts interacting with his TH-cam community the same way he does with his Twitch community.
Darude Sandstorm QB doesn't ask those question so he can review your answer. He does it to start a discussion in community. And he can't possibly answer question from people here. It would take too much time. This clip is 4h old, and it already have 100 comments. If reading, thinking about answer and answering those would even take 1-2min each, it would take over an hour for him to get through it. And if he really did start answering comments, there would be shitload more comments from people. Just impossible task.
Darude Sandstorm I read all the comments - you guys, and your opinions, interest me a lot, but I can't reply to everything. I use your feedback to gauge what parts you enjoyed and if there was anything that was unpopular.
I have written and defended a PhD while doing what I do in the last 3 years as well as having a fiancée who just finally got entrance into the UK so I do have a life outside of this :)
While you guys mean a hell of a lot to me I can't reply to everyone.
Well, fuck me. There goes my theory.
Two quick ideas on reviews in the future. First, I like the format you have where you show how the tank compares to other similar tanks. But it would be very interesting to me if you took that to the next level and showed replays for those tanks and talked about the differences. Second, it would be nice to also talk about the "economics" of the tank after a replay. If the replay required you to spend a lot of credits then share that with us so we can use that as a factor.
I like the review, just a few thoughts I had while watching.
Why did that shot to T43 at 28:58 did 642 damage!?!? That's why beyond his alpha. And looking at the hit log, it is him that did the damage.
how u get auf panther? i know how to get PII, PI, P 8,8 CM. id thata premiume?
i wanna see that e75 video at the end but the annotations dont work
Wait, right before ramming the T-43 QB did a 642 HP shot at him. First I though that somebody else shot him first, but the damage log mod says that he did all of those 642 damage. Then I though it was HE, but this tank carries none. What the hell happened there?
Wouldn't it make somewhat more sense to review mostly tier9/10 tanks as a lot of people are interested in how well/badly the tanks they are grinding for are performing? sure enough, quite a few of your reviews are in that region but i'd really to see you review all the tier 10s before you start with exocit stuff like the aufklärungs panther
I loved this review. Thoroughly exhaustive in scope. Thank you for posting this.
You don't have review of the Leo light tank or the VK 28? I'm working my way towards the Afu Panther.
My moments with this tank was beautiful, just face other light with your frontal armor and crash them all to dead and now i got the Ru with his awesome gun, i love the german light tech tree.
I think QB like tanks with high DMP, accuracy cannon with a hull with high mobility.
As much as I enjoy my Awful Panther, I'll agree that there are many better tier 7 lights out there. But as you found, it's still better than most people give it credit for... and the rams are just sooo fun!
where is the review of the premium remake?
is there a premium remake for this tank?
Is that 75mm gun the same what was known as the "Könisch" on the VK3601H Medium tank? (Before WG nerfed it to HT)
i have driven a lot of the tier 7 lights (all except the m41 bulldog and the t71) and i have to say this tank isnt terrible its just not quite as good as its competitors but its a ramming god in comparison to the others.
oh, yeah. Rammed a T71 and did 600 dmg to him while only taking 200 :D (only 12k xp for the RU251)
marTin X You'll love the RU, it's just fun.
marTin X
i had a type 64 kill themselves on me for full hp and i took i think 120 damage from it. also the lttb cant ram but wow its maneuverability and speed is insane. also i just got the ru-251 havent driven it yet but i just got the top engine from the indien panzer lately so i just need the money for equipment then i should be at home in the fastest light in the game :)
Guess I'll have to pick this one up at some point myself, never saw the use in it but with the Aufkl.Pz. in the line now there is. I used to hate this vehicle for what it had done to my beloved VK2801 (having it nerfed beyond repair) which is also why I never bothered to get it in the first place.
Apparently the Failpanther is not so fail after all...
Is this position working same, but from other side? E7, maybe?
in the 2nd replay if you spawn north which place you will probably go ?
R.I.P Aufkl.panther
Etunimi Sukunimi Tulossa takas premiumina
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Unrelated point, but I got a lovely arty kill in my ELC AMX today. I was driving along towards the enemy cap circle, as you do, when I spotted the arty perched strangely on the side of a hill. ELC going slightly downhill at 70kph? No problem, I said, and did a fancy-ass powerslide up the hill, yes, UP, and shot the bastard.
I don't feel bad bragging about how badass it was, because I'm a crap player usually :)
unrelated topic : i've watched the majority of my team (8) tanks in tier 8 get killed by one arty...................no i have no answer for this
Until .Dawn **Sigh**
I don't know who to be more ashamed of, the tanks who died or the scumbag arty.
Is there a good scouting point on Malinovka from the North?
Hey qb can you do A Tinkerview on the T 71 I have been watching this replay /Tank review to compare it to the T71 be one and I can't want to see how it worked like is different between them and I have found my favorite is the D 71 because the autoloader if you areare rushed by a enemy you can quickly damages of and run away or quickly put off shots as covering fire or just sitting on a hill putting a clipping to someone and then going to reload could you can use the clip to do a mass amount of damage and then you can then you stop and get the realtor after inspecting constantly do damage but I feel like it's a decent we would've one person just popped out you can punish them a lot more than with the awful panther
Hi QuickyBaby
I have a question I am looking for a mobile sniper and think about the German medium E 50 line but I saw a lot of bad opinion about panther I
Also I thought about Lepoard line but I'm afraid the lack of armor.
What are you recommending for not too experienced player?
So which is the better harasser/scout tank. T71 or bulldog?
Ramming certainly works in this thing, hit a Borsig so hard it almost flipped over :)
armor is quite important cause i was driving my VK 2801 if i was in lightly armored LTs i would have died cause of arty
i only recieved around 200 dmg from a GW panther
Will be Aufkl Panther replaced someday?
Is it me or did QB answer over average comments?
Just noticed that Wargaming has decided to let its console players keep the Tier VII German Light, the aufklarungspanzer as a premium. Could we make some noice to get that option on the PC game aswell? :)
Enjoyed this review as all other ones. But I have request. The maus is soon coming to Xbox and I would love if you could do a review on the vk4502b as it has been buffed and I haven't seen you make a review of that tank. I would be grateful if you can do that.
Vk 30.01 H and vk 36.01 H can use the same gun and I'm actually using it right now because I havent got the 88mm gun for my vk 36...
How the hell did you do 642 damage to that T-43 with a single shot? I hope its just a bug in the replay.
this video helps a lot for my AFK panther game play!! thanks QB!!!
Please do a review on Jpanther !! Thanks alot.
Not a bad tank~ Nice to hear you to talk about it.
im so happy i can say that i have finished the grind on this tank and i have an ru-251 :) i havent driven it yet but still
I tried so hard to like this tank. I really want the RU251 and the VK 28.01 is one of my favorite tanks, but this tank seems so sluggish and it's so larger. Also why the hell did I have to research the second turret considering it looks exactly the same as the VK28.01 and has the exact same armor and view, nothing seems different.
Can you tell me what your graphics settings are quicky??
I managed to get 2 games in this tank before it was removed :'(
In my first game I survived an arty hit point blank to the face and ram killed 2 FV 304's, while being totally stock.
Only 2 games... But I will miss it.
How did you not get tank sniper?
Keep up the good work QuickyBabyTV . you make great videos. And you have helped make me be a better player, no where near you mind you, but I always try to apply everything you show us. Thank you.
Nice review QB! Now how the hell did you do 642 damage with that APCR shell just before ramming that T-43? I watched that about 5 times in a row. Maybe in the replay the shots from others that come in simultaneously are shown as your damage? I was like shiiiiiit! Nice ram dmg anyway :)
the best channel about world of tanks!
and the mighty jingles
Can you do a tank review of the Lowe? With tank inspector and stuff?
Why with the Tank Inspector?
Why not?
The armor of Löwe is nothing to get excited about...
hey there QB, just a request. you have done many reviews of different tanks, but may i request that can you review a tank ( any tier, LT,MT or HT), but play it on at least 3 different map? so many changes now in tanks and maps that your review 2 years ago etc..may not be applicable.
Dear Quicky Baby; please review the most OP tank I know and the most underrated; the SU 85b! It WILL blow them away!
you'll never need a premium shell with this one! Hehe!
Why didn't you show the end of the first replay?
Oh I wanted to see what happened and did not even notice that. Thanks
RIP Aufkl :'c
I've always wondered, does test server let u get any tank or do u have to work for them like regular ones?
how do i get test server?
Review the T110E3 please.
another very good review. I am about too buy the aufflpanzer and picked up a lot of helpful info. I had a walker bulldog and not being a natural light tank player I did not rate it at all. I am grinding the new missions which are great and make us play tanks we do not normally play, and you are right in a previouse vid about russion arty how you can be one shotted by a su 14. am looking forward too playing my new tank, keep up the fantastic work.
The tank still has a lot of problems and most of them have to do with scouting. It's just not a good scout, be it passive of active. For both there are better alternatives. You just can't do stuff other light tanks can get away with, especially in tier 10. One wont be happy playing it as dedicated scout. That said I like it, but that's probably because german meds around that tier are a bit sluggish and you have to get to the light tanks to get a mobile tank. It's more fun than the normal panther that's for sure. When you do good, often it's not due to the strengths of the tank but instead despite it's weaknesses. In my opinion, the tank would do better without scout matchmaking or by turning it into a medium that keeps camo while moving. Wargaming should look for a way to give this tank a real role if they want to keep it as light tank.
Watching this while waiting to see if I win the bid on the black market
33 apcr pretty expensive isnt it?
Just bought back the Aufklarungspanzer to grind the tier 8 but cannot say I like it Its the turret really I mean if the idea was to create a light tank then there was no need to design this they could have taken the VK3002 M and put the 900 hp engine into it. That would have been a much better light tank. Its playable but not a tank I would choose to play if I didnt have to.
This Tonk is a Panzer IV/V non Premium version
Don't say this joke of a tank is good OpBaby! You could do 1500 damage average in a cardboard box equipped with a lugger pistol, a 3cc model engine and three bicycle wheels. This crappy vehicle is all about trollness of WG devs. There are a small minority who can use this, but for non-professional players this is real pain. A fat barn with a useless peashooter on it, that swalows all your money if you want to penetrate, medium tank mobility and meaningless armor against those guns you will meet. Sounds fun? Enjoy then.
This comment made me laugh
You forgot to mention, that this craptank has camouflage value close to Panther (medium tank). Everybody can see you as soon as you come closer than 300m. It as anything BUT a scout.
Hello QuickyBaby, I like your videos, learn some things and have fun with them.
Could you tell me what the inspector tanks do you use? If possible send me the link to download. I want to download an inspector tank but do not know which is reliable, as there are several.
Already appreciate.
Congratulations for the great videos!
I would love to see an SU-85B review from you. It will surprise you.
You just mentioned the tank I consider my most OP tank (I have 34). SU 85b is a true killer and YES QB MUST REVIEW IT!
isint that like a tier 4 TD ? QB really rarely plays these low tiers and i highly doubt he will be doing a review of it any time soon if at all...
DraKoNiuKaS ;]
You are probably right unfortunatly but one can only try. I think ignoring the lower tiers is regrettable. I enjoy playing all the levels and have made a point of keeping the very best 2 tanks for each level just to have the option of playing lower levels which I do both for fun and for money making reason (no premium account!)
well im pretty much like QB i find low tier battles boring and unexciting and i tend to ignore them... people play very differently in lower tiers and i really dont like the fact that pretty much all tanks are derpy, blind, die in 1-2 shots from certain tanks. they're either really underpowered or overpowered...
Well it's a tier IV so it can face up to tier VI. Perhaps he can show tier VI games as well as tier IV games.
oh, i hate it so much, and i had to play through it twice, first to get my Indian-panzer and now to get my ru251. it is far less competitive than the other tier 7 tanks. it got to the point where i would just drive it with the derp gun and ram any chance i got, for average players, i do not recommend this tank. and i'm confused as to why you didn't mention that it did carry a very competitive derp gun
Why? Just why was that KV2 running the 107mm?
Possibly still grinding the 152 mm
Oliver March
I guess he could've got the 107mm from the T-150
the auf. panther is a (arguably) better comet - with t10 MM....
good in t8
okay in t9
but in t10 games I'd rather be in a 59-16...
HEHHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHHHEHEHEHHEHE 59-16 w/96 pen at tier 10 HAHAHA
EirikXL i have a 56% win rate in my 59-16 - reason?
abuse the absurd camo - the minimal size and the crazy turning of the little bugger
The auf panthers gun is fairly useless in a t10 game unless you camp, snipe and no-one can see you - and with the camo values of the auf panther... good luck with that - I'd rather pack 500 burst to kill any arty and be mobile + invisible - that be in a panther
also i think its only 85mm pen ^^
A FMB Yeah actually :D It's sooo bad.
fun fact
the 3cm (30mm) autocannon on the luchs has 10mm more penetration that the 76mm on the 59-16
the 59-16 is 2 tier higher...xD
(but the 59-16 just looks soo cool if only the wz-131/132 were just as small they would wreak face^^)
This review did not cover the tank's real gameplay with the howitzer
I did not play like a sniper with this tank, because of the howitzer. The Auf. Panther becomes a scout hunter once you arm the derp-gun and ram and penetrate wit HE shells the enemy light tanks. I have been able to take around 950 HP from an AMX 13 90 ONLY by ramming while being on even terrain- howitzer for weight, Spalliner for ramming damage reduction and Controlled impact for causing more ramming damage and taking less. Even Russian mediums can be harmed by ramming from the Auf. Panther.
This tanks has armor, but you have to use it as a weapon, not a shield. With be build I recommend for this tank is: Howitzer, Spalliner, Vents, Rammer (you are a scout hunter, a damage dealer, not a scout), Controlled impact -> Clutch braking -> Off-road driving (if you get to a 4th skill, you can go for BIA), everything else can be set however you want. Now with Waffentragers and new light tanks, the howitzer is even more effective and threatening for more tanks.
Scout hunting and harassing - these are the real roles of this tank. No lame sniping with hardly adequate penetration and the tank is too slow and big for scouting. I played this tank PRETENDING to be a scout, just so I can meet with the enemy scouts and take them out with an HE shell and a ram. In other cases I just trolled the other enemies, making them do stupid things.
This is one of my most favorite tanks, but now it is replaced by the Ru 251. I miss my Aufklärungspanzer Panther.
did you die when you spoted the is
Is it RSOP a finnish clan? Since when you are a joined to RSOP, mr. quickybaby?
It was for a wargaming clan wars event today, he's said he will probably leave after the event
i managed to catch an rhm borsig with his pants down halfway down the hill on himmelsdorf. i rammed him for 900 damage and 2 shots finished him off
This Panther is pretty good, but low ammo.
I played Awful.Panther even before RU 251 was released. I prefer that howitzer (hetzer gun) with HE. It is good against light tanks, artys, WaffenTrägers... and it is good for detracking / critical hits.
looks like a vk28.01 with a panther hull
Holy shit, QB joined a clan :D
If you have 100% winrate, what color would you be?
rainbow.
hopefully.
someone pass me the videos of the final?
quicky baby can you please do a review about the m103???
He has, it's old though and doesn't use tank inspector...I dought he'll rebuy the m103 since he already has the t110e5. Honestly, ur better off using the Conqueror or just getting the e5 since the m1's marshmallow turret is it's biggest weakness... aside from the uber weak ammo rack lower plate.
o3zman i still want to see a m103 review...
Daniel Derpinson
the most important thing for M103 drivers: dont think you have armor: you are dead when you think that
Tob Fu uhm...
m103 needs a buff really and i know that...
i have it...
i just want people to be a little better at it..
i have 2 marks on my tank already... and the m103 got serouis nerfs with its HD model...
the upper hull armour slope was actually worse after the HD model
o3zman in my opinion the conqueror sucks a lot, no side armor no frontal turret armor (200 pen is enough to get through the front). But the thing is I don't know how different the conqueror is compared to the Xbox version.
cant wait to get this tank thanks for the highlights !
I feel like it's pointless to use the afk panther, wz131,amx 13 75 and the t71,because the LTTB and the Bulldog outclass them in almost every way
They all have a lot better camo then the new ones.. Now they need to passive scout.
I wish they would sell this tank Soon. I had it on the console just before they removed it, but have since switched to the pc and now i no longer have it. It was fun to use, and loved ramming things to death,especially higher tier and heavier tanks lol.
Also i had many instances when enemies made the mistake of trying to ram me and have it backfire, often resulting in their death by impact or by my added shots afterwards. always a good feeling :)
You were faster than AMX because the entire himmelsdorf terrain is a hard terrain where AufPanther has the biggest resistance advantage :)
I've been using Aufkl. Panther for about 5 months (ago) but decided to sell it for garage slot (stupid moves!)
Nonetheless, based on my experience playing APanther (ok I have a hardtime typing auflklrunpansar panther, I'll typed it as APanther ok?), it's closer to be like playing style of Cromwell and Comet - which I have playing both and sold em, for the same reason as above. Quick 7.5/5.5cm cannon, good penetration in hitting T8-T10 weak spots (gold rounds might be needed tho) and fast. Big body, yes, but that wasn't necessarily the weak value of the tank. But lets start with the bad side from me first.
The bad side, is obviously the armor. Even though it's angled, it's not sufficient at all to tanking T8-T10 cannon. Almost all cannon from T8-T10 will penetrate you. Almost. Basically, you don't wanna take hit at all. Other than that, the view range of the tank is not really awesome. 390m, T10 tanks could spot you first with their 400m+ view range. That, if you wanna spot better, you gonna take binocs and view range skills and playing active & passive scout. Being an active scout, that isn't a problem too much (German uberengine!). But passive scouting? Oh no, the camo rating isn't quite good enough! Camo rating isn't worst, but it's not making this APanther a good passive scout. You have better tank to play as passive scout than this. Also, APanther is large tank, it's big so you can't hide in ruins to have cover unlike other smaller (light) tanks. But that's all I can say anything about the downside of APanther.
The good side is, also teh ultimate powah of APanther, ENGINE POWER! 900hP is really really awesome! With that, you can circledance every heavy tanks with slow turn (turrets too) and giving them a nice dosage of torture! Assuming they don't have backup, you can finish them and still having full HP left to fight another occasion. In short, the main "strength" of APanther is the engine. Don't let it broke, repair it as soon as you get engine damage. You lose the engine, you lose it's main power. Without your engine, your speed are the same like other fast medium tank. Still fast, but circledance HTs would be risky. Another thing is, the cannon. APanther's 7.5/5.5 cannon has better DPS than Comet! It also has better penetration too. WG already buffed the reload of 7.5/5.5 in few patches before, and that's why it has better DPS compared to Comet. Take rammer, get BiS (and if you want to, get Vents) now you have the best circledancing tanks in WoT. Radio range is quite awesome for T7 LT. 710m range, it's enough without any crew trained with radio range skills.Oh and, elevation degree, you have -10 to 20 elevation, that is pretty awesome! Also, the HP of APanther is higher than other T7 LT.
For me, I'm happy to get the APanther before, and regret it for selling it and replace it's slot with WZ-131. (WZ131 is good tank, I like it too, but if asked to choose only 1 between WZ and AP, I would get AP for a ride anyday) And playing in APanther as close range brawler, it's totally fun. It's not overpowered tank, it's light tank. Don't take hit and keep harassing - along with active scouting - is your main goal with it. Low damage cannon, but don't let it fooling you. Keep your tank safe until mid-game, and you can unleash the power of Panther!
BRING BACK AUFPZPANTHER!!!
Great review, QB!
They need to implement a Kill em All mode. TDM/DM. No timer.
So what happens when you are left with a fast tank against a bunch of very slow tanks... The match would never end. I thought the same thing before but then thought about the balancing factors that the timer and the cap introduce. It just isn't possible for them to create a mode like that no matter how annoying it is to get capped out by a moronic tomato or have the timer run down because of a cowardly light tank.
i just watched two light tanks throw themself off a cliff because they didn't want to fight my T29 Thing is i had no ammo
...........................
when obj 263?
that moment when light tank does more kills and damage from other tanks. :3
how do u have such good graphics?
well, I've only played two light tanks (59-16 and WZ-131) and I feel that the WZ-131 is way better than the other light tanks on its tier... Oh well, I know, I have no experience :D