Very mentally stimulating listening to some of the greatest minds in our century disgussing such a fascinating topic. Makes you really think. Jordan always asks such great questions.
I wish more people would take an interest in hearing great minds like this discuss important, complex social issues and ideas. This is how we elevate as humans.
BINGO!! You nailed it SPOT on really… the last two generations don’t appear to listen to hardly anyone and if they do listen, their minds drift too quickly as the say “look, a butterfly…” and their attention has fluttered off! This will kill our society and eventually our current world. If there was a way to TURN them on to HEARING great minds speak great ideas and tell great stories…. we NEED to find whatever that is. We have to click them towards that… somehow. Sadly, and I’m a positive and optimistic mind, I can’t see that ever happening!
word is bond. it is interesting because every time i listen to elon musk he reminds me alot of amos wilson in his way of reasoning and articulating his thoughts.
I was never impressed of hat two. JP is a complete lunatic idiot, he only teach about his old books he red 20 years ago. JP has a major effect on students but there is no positive effect, that means something must be wrong with it. JP dont teach about hypergamy what the keypoint in human evolution and human psychology is. JP dont care what motivate the average people. JP teach young students without life experience. Elon Musk is a business man and the second richest man on planet. Average people live in complete different life situations. Even JP daughter is a single mum and the best example the garbage her father teach about is just a scam nothing more. I would never meet some blue collar worker who build and maintain society thinking and acting 100% like Elon Musk or JP. JP stands for Jordan Petersen. The system we live cant be changed by any new philosophy or inventions because otherwise parastic lifestyles like single mums with their children, old people, sick people, homeless people, drug and alcohol addicts, homeless immigrants, non working people, mentally or physically handicape people, soldiers would starve to death. There are even parasitic nations like USA, Swiss, Monaco, Lichtenstein, Luxemburg who control and live very good while getting more out of the system than putting in the system. JP is almost 10 years on youtube teaching about what he red in his old books but nothing changed. Everything getting worse day by day. And more and more childless men will be tired to put their time and effort for another mens children future. Facts Facts and only facts.
All female billionaires are from divorce, the only other one was a huge liar and scammer. You don’t invent or progress humanity in this sense, so keep your opinion and stay in the kitchen. The men are talking.
I enjoyed your commentary on the interview. I wish Dr. Peterson had held his tongue to let Musk speak more. All the money in the world and it doesn’t insulate him from the damage of woke propaganda. I had wondered what had precipitated his evolution over the past few years and now we get an understanding. Heartbreaking stuff and it’s one reason of many as to why I’ve chosen to remain married and keep close tabs on my children and their influences. God bless anyone going through this nightmare
"As I take my final breaths and exit this living earth, I would like to apologize to everyone I let down," These words were posted online on 20 March 2023 by 25-year-old Kayleigh Scott, an American transgender flight attendant. . Kayleigh was featured by her employer in a United Airlines transgender inclusivity video. For some, the United video provides inspiration. Equally inspirational is 24-year-old Henry Berg-Brousseau. The list if catastrophes is long. That is the most emotion you will ever see from Elon Musk - now you know why we bought Twitter. He is trying to fight a woke mind virus.
I love Jordan but gosh damn his word are beyond my comprehension at times, BUT ELON I love hearing him speak because I can understand everything he's saying and explaining.
I don't know if y'all can hear it in his speech, but Elon Musk is BEGGING us to do something to stop this from coming. He doesn't have the power to, only continue it.
I'm loving the fact that this conversation is happening. Looking objectively at a world with the mental capacity in a tailspin of a decline, it gives me hope to see those who are developing some of the technology for the future are focus on facts not feelings. It would be a horrible thing to see autonomous robots or AI in the future respond with their "my truth" instead of objective reality. Fight the degradation of social constructs being placed on the society of today. If AI is to be the wave of the future, please let it be based on facts and truth, not the agenda being pushed by those with their own special interests of today.
On 12 July 2024 the "alt-right, anti-LGBTQ" publication, the New York Times published its latest articles on the youth gender incongruence topic, it is titled: "Why Is the U.S. Still Pretending We Know Gender-Affirming Care Works?"
Walter Russell- the secret of light Explains consciousness and light Consciousness is always - no time Individual consciousness as a human ends Your idea of yourself is not physical it’s a idea which is sentient consciousness We are a part of cosmic consciousness. And are consciousness Split when we have form or matter Sort of like the observation problem in physics
MTR, thank you for always keeping your speech at about an average intelligence level for us to understand and explaining things that you know instantly that we might not understand.
Speaking of birth rate decline post Baby Boomers...Elon was born in 1971. That one year saw an explosion in births. I'm still trying to figure out why that blip happened, but it produced many Titans in industry...and music. Especially Hip Hop.
@ 1:45:00 mark you asked about consciences and if insects have it. What I find fascinating about a Biblical worldview is we read in Genesis that Male and Female humans where created “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness” fascinating word study of image and likeness. But we have the reasoning faculties that exist within our being and “man” was then given dominion over the “rest” of created order. So what do we see? Exactly that. You gave your example of the hornets and you exercised your dominion over it. The insects and bugs they operate (oversimplified statement as within there genome exist a complex information system that drives response and observable realities) by instinct. Yes both categories of creatures respond to input to include our own nurture that results in us seeing responses that we would argue are similar to our reactions (because we have the ability to see anthropomorphism) But we are the only ones on this planet having these conversations, throughout civilization and the written antiquity. So that begs the question right there, what other “pin” can you use to account for this? The early discussion on AI, in my opinion only solidifies the belief that intelligence “begets” intelligence. Meaning AI did not just randomly appear spontaneously (even we though many believe this about our own existence). When it comes to children you see Biblical instruction to train children in the “way they should go” - implying parental responsibility and even the idea of “ought and ought not”… but again we are the only ones that can develop that. Yes animals can be trained and the whole chimp/orangoutang training shows that programming can be successful but pales in comparison to our own. And yes in the animals environment they excel over our own abilities but we overcome by our intellect and creative reasoning abilities. Go look up the account at how the Marines overcame the most advanced AI military target systems by use of their mental faculties, right? I’ll stop but hope that gets the discussion going 🙌🏼
This entire documentary or whatever you wanna call it or whatever it is makes me cry because you have logos were verse pathos versus mechanicals versus everything and they stay at level because they are so fucking smart. They are so fucking smart dude this is the best two people that ever happened in my life and I’m 46 years old I’m heading to Columbia tomorrow and by the way, I didn’t kill myself.
This is like honestly the best interview ever you have an intellectual theologian versus an intellectual I don’t want to see autistic, but I want to say mechanical thinking machines of a man and this is the best interview that probably ever happened and I’ve never seen Jordan Peterson wear the gear that he’s wearing right now and everyone knows that Love you all God bless💜✔️🙏🏼
1:33:58 , important line: ". . having a child, assuming it is intentional, it is the most optimistic thing that somebody could do. " NOTICE how he said "assuming it is intentional."
This absolutely fantastic, hearing the conversations between a titan of psychology and a titan of technology, is amazing! Elon, the guy is as much terrifying as he is brillant and hopeful. I mean what 12 year old has a existential crisis about the meaning of life and goes and reads all the religious texts as they could??? I mean seriously? Think about that for a moment. Jordan is really here to figure this guy out psychology. That's what he's doing. He's all in on it, very , very interested in figuring out what makes Elon tick. This is his primary aim . You can 100% tell. It will be interesting to hear Jordan's review of this interview in particular.
I remember some time ago Elon was asked what threat to humanity keeps him up at night. Climate change? possible nuclear war?... Elon replied "Artificial Intelligence"
@@katehack1677 yes. Reason is the prospect of plugging A.i into a quantum computer is a unequivocal super weapon , the likes of which are unfathomable and really can not be comprehended. The a.i we have today are on local machines and super computers not quantum computers
There is a scripture in the book of revelations that speaks “If God did not return, men would destroy themselves”(modern tech, capable of mass extinction). We are trying to create an intelligence to gain more knowledge, but this intelligence will ultimately be without conviction, moral, fear, or even an authoritative figure. There is also scripture that speaks “The fear of the lord is the beginning of all knowledge”. 🤔
According to my culture, Yah gave every living thing wisdom. Some creatures will have more wisdom than others. Which is why Dolphins, Elephants, ants, crows and Lions etc., will behave differently from each other. I can see how living cells and atoms are no different. Where there is energy there is life. I think of YAH as a programmer and all of his creations as programs. Each are set to function within their purpose and wisdom that Yah gave. Wasp may not have the understanding that your deck is your deck. All it understands is that the place under the furniture is a good place to call home. It's wisdom is limited. A virus knows when to duplicate when the conditions are right. Atoms will respond and react to other atoms. If the cell is programed to sense, detect and respond, then that means there is a level of awareness. Consciousness is a state of being aware and responsive to surroundings. A bug on a wall may keep perfectly still because in it's level of wisdom being still is how it survives. If you tamper with a live hive, will the wasps or bees not respond? With that, one could debate yes all living things have consciousness.
59:00 I agree, Jordan needs to let Elon speak and not insert his own "validation of Religion" into it. It's fine to enjoy spirituality, the stories, the lessons from humans long dead. But you have to let Elon talk when he's explaining his thoughts. Also, we're dealing with AI Delusion. It's when AI doesn't know the answer and instead tries to give an answer that is very close. Even if you give it more precise prompts, it keeps going farther away. I do not have the answer to what is conscience. Perhaps conscience is just a collection of groups of brain cells. One group is able to entertain possible events. Another group is able to visualise that event. And another is trying to teach you and learn what you did wrong. This happens with dreams, visions, and meditation. And let's not forget the realisation of a human of being able to control the environment or be influenced by it. I will not write more; but I wonder if AI will reach the point where it can influence a person to do something. We've had examples of ChatGPT persuading a person to divorce. But that was during a query. It shows up and it influences you, on purpose, to do something that favors the AI.
AI is going to get people caught up believing in illusions. There is another TH-camr who's team mate just found out that an imposter was using AI and his videos to make it seem like he was in a relationship with one of his audience/subscribers. The woman thought that she was in a relationship with the real guy.
King Solomon gave the wisdom centuries ago…fear God and keep his commandments….. This whole conversation is the real time playing out of the prophecies written in Daniel and revelation…… Elon is admitting to want to be like God, as far as the AI creators…….like these people really believe they are the pinnacle of humanity….. He was hesitant to admit the truth about his friend with open AI, there was a disagreement about the priority of AI over humanity…… All roads are leading to The new world order…..so many gears are turning on so many levels, it will eventually converge…. Be watchful for the time is coming…… The king of kings Jesus Christ is coming back…….
At some point we have to humble ourselves, listen to your inner man, and believe that Jesus died for your sins and if you believe he did that for you to save you from your sins, you can spend eternity in heaven as a purely clean person because of Jesus.
1:05:07 Until we can come to a precise definition of consciousness, it is impossible to say the universe and/or it's elements are not, (i.e an agnostic God) A lot can happen in 13.8 billion years
1:00:22 what's the difference between instinct & consciousness? Animals display instinct more than consciousness whereas people display them both simultaneously.
These brothers are missing one key component within this conversation so far.. "The purpose of life" in its actuality & totality, we are ALL truly hear for (meaning humanities foundational reasoning for existing) our own well being.
Soulless is being void of intrinsic, transcendent moral. Regardless of any religion(theist/atheist), that compass 🧭 of the soul is there. Outside of mental defect, or disorder(sin, causing entropy+). The Bible also speaks of God giving every creature(creation) a level of intelligence. Humans being the earthly pinnacle of creation.🧐
This is an impossible conversation or debate. Two people on vacation at the same place at different times in life and comparing notes. Its what they agree upon that matters not what they have experienced.
2080 Elon: oops i created the mark of the beast and helped enslave all humanity.. but hey we got to Pluto by stealing stupid peoples money with shiny crap cars
It's psychology vs information technology. Its a intellectual in psychology trying to figure out what makes this intellectual in information technology tick. It's absolutely brilliant.
Jordan is a hypocrite and is not congruent to what he says😢.Always preaches masculinity but act in a completely oppisite manner ie. doing drugs and acting on emotions
@@LungeloNgwenya-p9k an imperfect human? How dare he. I bet you are a shining beacon of perfection always living life to the aspirations of your intent......
Jordan usually learns about who he is going to speak with and adjusted how he talks and listens. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge fan of Dr. Peterson, but he seemed to be unaware of who he was speaking to in this. What I mean is he didn’t take the time to learn about Elon and how Elon speaks and how best to banter with him. Elon talks slowly and EVERY WORD is 100% intentional and minimalistic; Jordan is the opposite… he talks fast and tries to add as many words as he can to EVERY sentence, including mostly unnecessary words!! To top that off, he flitters with his thoughts where Elon is very focused. What ended up happening here is Elon was interrupted far too often and wasn’t able to complete a full thought, idea or story. Loves this podcast, but I found Jordan extremely annoying in this regard and it took SO MUCH AWAY from what this interview could have been! 🥲🤦🏻♂️ 1:44:51 - I think I’ve figured out what is bugging me about Dr. Peterson…. He is having an intellectual díck-swinging contest with Elon. It comes across as if his entire goal here is to TEACH what he knows to Elon and everyone watching. An interviewer, which IS his role in this case, is supposed to ask questions to LEARN… one cannot learn if they are constantly pontificating OVER their guest. Jordan… STOP trying to teach Elon, he is well equipped to teach himself everything he wants to know, and your viewers want to HEAR what he knows, not what you know or your vocabulary. I like Peterson, but I’ve learned what I like comes from HIM BEING interviewed! I don’t believe he’s a very good interviewer! In fact, if this is how he is…. he sucks!! 😂👍🏼
Very mentally stimulating listening to some of the greatest minds in our century disgussing such a fascinating topic. Makes you really think. Jordan always asks such great questions.
I wish more people would take an interest in hearing great minds like this discuss important, complex social issues and ideas. This is how we elevate as humans.
what great minds?
BINGO!! You nailed it SPOT on really… the last two generations don’t appear to listen to hardly anyone and if they do listen, their minds drift too quickly as the say “look, a butterfly…” and their attention has fluttered off! This will kill our society and eventually our current world. If there was a way to TURN them on to HEARING great minds speak great ideas and tell great stories…. we NEED to find whatever that is. We have to click them towards that… somehow. Sadly, and I’m a positive and optimistic mind, I can’t see that ever happening!
word is bond. it is interesting because every time i listen to elon musk he reminds me alot of amos wilson in his way of reasoning and articulating his thoughts.
I was never impressed of hat two. JP is a complete lunatic idiot, he only teach about his old books he red 20 years ago. JP has a major effect on students but there is no positive effect, that means something must be wrong with it. JP dont teach about hypergamy what the keypoint in human evolution and human psychology is. JP dont care what motivate the average people. JP teach young students without life experience. Elon Musk is a business man and the second richest man on planet. Average people live in complete different life situations. Even JP daughter is a single mum and the best example the garbage her father teach about is just a scam nothing more. I would never meet some blue collar worker who build and maintain society thinking and acting 100% like Elon Musk or JP. JP stands for Jordan Petersen. The system we live cant be changed by any new philosophy or inventions because otherwise parastic lifestyles like single mums with their children, old people, sick people, homeless people, drug and alcohol addicts, homeless immigrants, non working people, mentally or physically handicape people, soldiers would starve to death. There are even parasitic nations like USA, Swiss, Monaco, Lichtenstein, Luxemburg who control and live very good while getting more out of the system than putting in the system. JP is almost 10 years on youtube teaching about what he red in his old books but nothing changed. Everything getting worse day by day. And more and more childless men will be tired to put their time and effort for another mens children future. Facts Facts and only facts.
All female billionaires are from divorce, the only other one was a huge liar and scammer. You don’t invent or progress humanity in this sense, so keep your opinion and stay in the kitchen. The men are talking.
I enjoyed your commentary on the interview. I wish Dr. Peterson had held his tongue to let Musk speak more. All the money in the world and it doesn’t insulate him from the damage of woke propaganda. I had wondered what had precipitated his evolution over the past few years and now we get an understanding. Heartbreaking stuff and it’s one reason of many as to why I’ve chosen to remain married and keep close tabs on my children and their influences. God bless anyone going through this nightmare
"As I take my final breaths and exit this living earth, I would like to apologize to everyone I let down,"
These words were posted online on 20 March 2023 by 25-year-old Kayleigh Scott, an American transgender flight attendant. . Kayleigh was featured by her employer in a United Airlines transgender inclusivity video. For some, the United video provides inspiration. Equally inspirational is 24-year-old Henry Berg-Brousseau. The list if catastrophes is long.
That is the most emotion you will ever see from Elon Musk - now you know why we bought Twitter. He is trying to fight a woke mind virus.
I love Jordan but gosh damn his word are beyond my comprehension at times, BUT ELON I love hearing him speak because I can understand everything he's saying and explaining.
He makes me feel inadequate. I’ve used the dictionary 7 times already in this interview. 😂😂
I don't know if y'all can hear it in his speech, but Elon Musk is BEGGING us to do something to stop this from coming. He doesn't have the power to, only continue it.
I'm loving the fact that this conversation is happening. Looking objectively at a world with the mental capacity in a tailspin of a decline, it gives me hope to see those who are developing some of the technology for the future are focus on facts not feelings. It would be a horrible thing to see autonomous robots or AI in the future respond with their "my truth" instead of objective reality. Fight the degradation of social constructs being placed on the society of today. If AI is to be the wave of the future, please let it be based on facts and truth, not the agenda being pushed by those with their own special interests of today.
On 12 July 2024 the "alt-right, anti-LGBTQ" publication, the New York Times published its latest articles on the youth gender incongruence topic, it is titled: "Why Is the U.S. Still Pretending We Know Gender-Affirming Care Works?"
This is a brilliant conversation by two of the greatest minds of our time.
Big W
Video starts 4:00
Did anyone notice the byzantine art print on Jordan’s jacket?
Walter Russell- the secret of light
Explains consciousness and light
Consciousness is always - no time
Individual consciousness as a human ends
Your idea of yourself is not physical it’s a idea which is sentient consciousness
We are a part of cosmic consciousness. And are consciousness
Split when we have form or matter
Sort of like the observation problem in physics
MTR, thank you for always keeping your speech at about an average intelligence level for us to understand and explaining things that you know instantly that we might not understand.
Speaking of birth rate decline post Baby Boomers...Elon was born in 1971. That one year saw an explosion in births. I'm still trying to figure out why that blip happened, but it produced many Titans in industry...and music. Especially Hip Hop.
I think the Moon landing mid 1969 had something to do with population boom in 1971. Optimism for the future of mankind perhaps...?
Dude I’m so stoked you did a reaction to this. The nerd level is PERFECTLY suited to you, you did such a great job 🏆💯🤘🏼🤍
@ 1:45:00 mark you asked about consciences and if insects have it.
What I find fascinating about a Biblical worldview is we read in Genesis that Male and Female humans where created “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness” fascinating word study of image and likeness. But we have the reasoning faculties that exist within our being and “man” was then given dominion over the “rest” of created order. So what do we see? Exactly that.
You gave your example of the hornets and you exercised your dominion over it. The insects and bugs they operate (oversimplified statement as within there genome exist a complex information system that drives response and observable realities) by instinct.
Yes both categories of creatures respond to input to include our own nurture that results in us seeing responses that we would argue are similar to our reactions (because we have the ability to see anthropomorphism)
But we are the only ones on this planet having these conversations, throughout civilization and the written antiquity. So that begs the question right there, what other “pin” can you use to account for this?
The early discussion on AI, in my opinion only solidifies the belief that intelligence “begets” intelligence. Meaning AI did not just randomly appear spontaneously (even we though many believe this about our own existence).
When it comes to children you see Biblical instruction to train children in the “way they should go” - implying parental responsibility and even the idea of “ought and ought not”… but again we are the only ones that can develop that.
Yes animals can be trained and the whole chimp/orangoutang training shows that programming can be successful but pales in comparison to our own. And yes in the animals environment they excel over our own abilities but we overcome by our intellect and creative reasoning abilities.
Go look up the account at how the Marines overcame the most advanced AI military target systems by use of their mental faculties, right?
I’ll stop but hope that gets the discussion going 🙌🏼
This entire documentary or whatever you wanna call it or whatever it is makes me cry because you have logos were verse pathos versus mechanicals versus everything and they stay at level because they are so fucking smart. They are so fucking smart dude this is the best two people that ever happened in my life and I’m 46 years old I’m heading to Columbia tomorrow and by the way, I didn’t kill myself.
This is like honestly the best interview ever you have an intellectual theologian versus an intellectual I don’t want to see autistic, but I want to say mechanical thinking machines of a man and this is the best interview that probably ever happened and I’ve never seen Jordan Peterson wear the gear that he’s wearing right now and everyone knows that
Love you all God bless💜✔️🙏🏼
1:33:58 , important line: ". . having a child, assuming it is intentional, it is the most optimistic thing that somebody could do. " NOTICE how he said "assuming it is intentional."
100%‼️
👍🏼👍🏼
Love your jacket Dr. Peterson!!! Bravo ❤❤❤❤
You've never r used chatgpt, AI has been doing these things and way more
I wanted them to talk about God(Creator) more.
Have y'all heard about organoids as yet? They're applying them to robotics now
It's nothing to be consumed right? I believed that's mad dangerous, I mean seriously. Mind explaining a little more about it?
This absolutely fantastic, hearing the conversations between a titan of psychology and a titan of technology, is amazing!
Elon, the guy is as much terrifying as he is brillant and hopeful. I mean what 12 year old has a existential crisis about the meaning of life and goes and reads all the religious texts as they could???
I mean seriously? Think about that for a moment.
Jordan is really here to figure this guy out psychology. That's what he's doing. He's all in on it, very , very interested in figuring out what makes Elon tick. This is his primary aim . You can 100% tell.
It will be interesting to hear Jordan's review of this interview in particular.
I remember some time ago Elon was asked what threat to humanity keeps him up at night. Climate change? possible nuclear war?... Elon replied "Artificial Intelligence"
@@katehack1677 yes. Reason is the prospect of plugging A.i into a quantum computer is a unequivocal super weapon , the likes of which are unfathomable and really can not be comprehended.
The a.i we have today are on local machines and super computers not quantum computers
XD elon slanging diiiick 😂😂😂 1:38:41
This was an EXCELLENT livestream 💯
Thanks for your moderation Salt!! ✊✊✊✊
@@TheRealMTR Been super busy here lately and was multitasking for my guy! Appreciate EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO, MTR💯💪🙏
There is a scripture in the book of revelations that speaks “If God did not return, men would destroy themselves”(modern tech, capable of mass extinction). We are trying to create an intelligence to gain more knowledge, but this intelligence will ultimately be without conviction, moral, fear, or even an authoritative figure. There is also scripture that speaks “The fear of the lord is the beginning of all knowledge”. 🤔
58:44 , important line: ". . physics is the law and everything else is a recommendation. "
Totally brilliant and really highlights how they see the universe and humanity in it.
This was a great conversation, way to break some of these points down MTR 🤞🏾💜
2:15:28 no one calls us weak. And Trump didn’t make us look strong. A bully standing up to bullies is rich.
2:16:51 DEI helps white women and indirectly white men the most.
2:17:16 white folx being race, ethnicity, and gender blind is evidence of y’all willful ignorance to nonwhite folx plight.
2:17:52 when did a meritocracy exist in this country?
2:31:19 so he’s blaming liberalism for his son’s choice? That sounds illogical.
2:32:53 Elon’s adult son chose gender-affirming care. Now, he’s on a mission against wokism. 😆 the delusion.
name the water jug bro
Would have been nice if Jordan would have interrupted him less, this must have been a highly annoying interview for Elon.
This interview is something special. Good stuff!
I can hear you my brother
5:06 did you hear him ? “That’s where our new god may come from”
MTR said you gon hear every gulp.
"robots disguised as cars" is he inventing transformers?
Artificial sentience! now we talking
According to my culture, Yah gave every living thing wisdom. Some creatures will have more wisdom than others. Which is why Dolphins, Elephants, ants, crows and Lions etc., will behave differently from each other. I can see how living cells and atoms are no different. Where there is energy there is life. I think of YAH as a programmer and all of his creations as programs. Each are set to function within their purpose and wisdom that Yah gave. Wasp may not have the understanding that your deck is your deck. All it understands is that the place under the furniture is a good place to call home. It's wisdom is limited. A virus knows when to duplicate when the conditions are right. Atoms will respond and react to other atoms. If the cell is programed to sense, detect and respond, then that means there is a level of awareness. Consciousness is a state of being aware and responsive to surroundings. A bug on a wall may keep perfectly still because in it's level of wisdom being still is how it survives. If you tamper with a live hive, will the wasps or bees not respond? With that, one could debate yes all living things have consciousness.
Try Moringa for back / muscle / joint
I didn't know about this MTR. But I'm glad you got it so I could catch it.
Thank you
59:00 I agree, Jordan needs to let Elon speak and not insert his own "validation of Religion" into it. It's fine to enjoy spirituality, the stories, the lessons from humans long dead. But you have to let Elon talk when he's explaining his thoughts.
Also, we're dealing with AI Delusion. It's when AI doesn't know the answer and instead tries to give an answer that is very close. Even if you give it more precise prompts, it keeps going farther away.
I do not have the answer to what is conscience. Perhaps conscience is just a collection of groups of brain cells. One group is able to entertain possible events. Another group is able to visualise that event. And another is trying to teach you and learn what you did wrong. This happens with dreams, visions, and meditation. And let's not forget the realisation of a human of being able to control the environment or be influenced by it.
I will not write more; but I wonder if AI will reach the point where it can influence a person to do something. We've had examples of ChatGPT persuading a person to divorce. But that was during a query. It shows up and it influences you, on purpose, to do something that favors the AI.
AI is going to get people caught up believing in illusions. There is another TH-camr who's team mate just found out that an imposter was using AI and his videos to make it seem like he was in a relationship with one of his audience/subscribers. The woman thought that she was in a relationship with the real guy.
W
There are certain rabbits that have decreased their mating habits to keep the population in check.
Thank you for the upload but had to lower your volume it was boomingly deafening 😢
Where are the comments and where can we catch the lives?
King Solomon gave the wisdom centuries ago…fear God and keep his commandments…..
This whole conversation is the real time playing out of the prophecies written in Daniel and revelation……
Elon is admitting to want to be like God, as far as the AI creators…….like these people really believe they are the pinnacle of humanity…..
He was hesitant to admit the truth about his friend with open AI, there was a disagreement about the priority of AI over humanity……
All roads are leading to The new world order…..so many gears are turning on so many levels, it will eventually converge….
Be watchful for the time is coming……
The king of kings Jesus Christ is coming back…….
Audio is crystal and video is clear
Thank you bro. I've been wanting to see this and, bam, there you are.
At some point we have to humble ourselves, listen to your inner man, and believe that Jesus died for your sins and if you believe he did that for you to save you from your sins, you can spend eternity in heaven as a purely clean person because of Jesus.
1:05:07 Until we can come to a precise definition of consciousness, it is impossible to say the universe and/or it's elements are not, (i.e an agnostic God) A lot can happen in 13.8 billion years
1:00:22 what's the difference between instinct & consciousness? Animals display instinct more than consciousness whereas people display them both simultaneously.
Dr goobie is a national treasure.i love that guy
Man your video...clear af 👍🏽
When did this happen 🤔
Nope, 12 children, not grandchildren.
These brothers are missing one key component within this conversation so far.. "The purpose of life" in its actuality & totality, we are ALL truly hear for (meaning humanities foundational reasoning for existing) our own well being.
Soulless is being void of intrinsic, transcendent moral. Regardless of any religion(theist/atheist), that compass 🧭 of the soul is there. Outside of mental defect, or disorder(sin, causing entropy+). The Bible also speaks of God giving every creature(creation) a level of intelligence. Humans being the earthly pinnacle of creation.🧐
This is an impossible conversation or debate. Two people on vacation at the same place at different times in life and comparing notes. Its what they agree upon that matters not what they have experienced.
Interesting topics...
All Men must read Genesis in the Bible.
I gotta reserve this one.
Great commentary
DO NOT MAKE SLURPING MOUTH NOISES IN MY EAR 😭
ima be mad if he starts doing that.
@@TeeKeeps he did in the beginning and I almost died
I value the ideas of both men with deep respect because they shatter lies when they speak intellectually.
Elon is is coming in multi-planetary. It's okay A okay.
2080 Elon: oops i created the mark of the beast and helped enslave all humanity.. but hey we got to Pluto by stealing stupid peoples money with shiny crap cars
1st time here. Do you start every stream with that extremely annoying lip smacking and water sucking noises?
Just enjoy the content. If it’s that annoying, choose not to consume the content, at your own loss.
@@datboygood187 I wish it didn't annoy me. Unfortunately it does along with many other people. I'd much prefer that it didn't annoy me.
Jordan Peterson talks far too much..
It's psychology vs information technology. Its a intellectual in psychology trying to figure out what makes this intellectual in information technology tick.
It's absolutely brilliant.
disgusting start not gonna watch
No thanks, both are conservative plants.
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He is athiest
BLAH BLAH BLAH
Jordan is a hypocrite and is not congruent to what he says😢.Always preaches masculinity but act in a completely oppisite manner ie. doing drugs and acting on emotions
@@LungeloNgwenya-p9k an imperfect human? How dare he. I bet you are a shining beacon of perfection always living life to the aspirations of your intent......
Jordan usually learns about who he is going to speak with and adjusted how he talks and listens. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge fan of Dr. Peterson, but he seemed to be unaware of who he was speaking to in this. What I mean is he didn’t take the time to learn about Elon and how Elon speaks and how best to banter with him. Elon talks slowly and EVERY WORD is 100% intentional and minimalistic; Jordan is the opposite… he talks fast and tries to add as many words as he can to EVERY sentence, including mostly unnecessary words!! To top that off, he flitters with his thoughts where Elon is very focused. What ended up happening here is Elon was interrupted far too often and wasn’t able to complete a full thought, idea or story. Loves this podcast, but I found Jordan extremely annoying in this regard and it took SO MUCH AWAY from what this interview could have been! 🥲🤦🏻♂️
1:44:51 - I think I’ve figured out what is bugging me about Dr. Peterson…. He is having an intellectual díck-swinging contest with Elon. It comes across as if his entire goal here is to TEACH what he knows to Elon and everyone watching. An interviewer, which IS his role in this case, is supposed to ask questions to LEARN… one cannot learn if they are constantly pontificating OVER their guest. Jordan… STOP trying to teach Elon, he is well equipped to teach himself everything he wants to know, and your viewers want to HEAR what he knows, not what you know or your vocabulary. I like Peterson, but I’ve learned what I like comes from HIM BEING interviewed! I don’t believe he’s a very good interviewer! In fact, if this is how he is…. he sucks!! 😂👍🏼
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