P3 Shamsi has a discussion with a honest christian Speakers Corner Hyde Park
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I really hope and wish to see him revert to islam in the part 4.
One of the best convos I’ve seen with Shamsi. So peaceful and they listened to each other . I wish more of speakers corner convos are like this
InshaAllah he comes back to Allah swt because Allah swt never left him SubhanAllah
"I think it's very important to understand..."
9:39 your believe is based on a book that you are not sure if this book is from God or not. Basing your claims on a book you do not know who wrote it.
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11:30 Paul said, _"all scripture is inspired by God"_ Christians say he is speaking of the OT since the NT was not yet written
12:33 Shamsi is trying to say that NT are not inspired from God and do not make that claim in the Books but the OT "Yes some Gospels do" that is make the claim that they are inspired from God ... begs the Question where is the claim made from the Old Testament itself that they are inspired from God?
In the book of Psalms 2:7 we find “I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.” David, in this verse, is saying that God had told him he was the son of God and God has begotten him. Clearly, Jesus is not the only begotten son of God.
I would seriously question the title of this video "honest Christian"?
WeeN WeeN you are too serious
He is learning about Islam,and Trinity takes time to leave like every evil
If Allah wants to guide him he will become a Muslim,but if Allah doesn't will then Usman is unfortunate.
Inshallah he'll become a muslim
respect to the guy with the long red hair
lol
[Quran 10:37] This Quran could not possibly be authored by other than God. It confirms all previous messages, and provides a fully detailed scripture. It is infallible, for it comes from the Lord of the universe.
are you a chrisian?
sorry .
no problem brother
ََQuran 10:108 Say, "O mankind, the truth has come to you from your Lord, so whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul, and whoever goes astray only goes astray [in violation] against it. And I am not over you a manager."
@@SamDawahChannel where are HeavenGuy's comments ?
Ishmael is the 1st BEGOTTEN son of Abraham with his wife Hagar.
Br Shamsi is one of the great speaker in speaker corner the example which he gave about our beloved prophet Muhammad pbuh.
You need to have patient to explain this honest Christian Br that Jesus is not a son of god.
Christian Br Usman going round and round and coming back to same point, It so simple Christian Br Usman Believe in 1 God and follow the teaching of Prophet Muhammad pbuh.
Christian Br Usman is just few steps behind to Islam Insha’Allah
My man doesn’t even know his own Biblical stories. He’s just peddling whatever garbage he can
quran al maidah 5:77 " oh people of the book (jews and christian) dont go to extreme to your religion." for jews dont go extreme (to reject jesus). for christian makin jesus as god
Not god eyes but his vision
نريد ترجمة
Shamsi u Know u strive very much
Allah does not become His creation, nor does He change His nature. Christians believe that Allah the almighty became a baby and got His nappy changed my Mary. Allah said: "How can I have children when I have got no wife?" Qur'an Surah 6 Verse 101 and Allah is unique and there is nothing like Him. Qur'an Surah 112. Also read in Qur'an Surah Maidah 5 Verses 110 to 120 where the miracles of Jesus (pbuh) were done by Allah. Also read the mother of Jesus in the Qur'an Surah Maryam 19 explaining that Jesus (pbuh) is a prophet and messenger of Allah. NOTES: Please can you read the Al-Hilali and Muhsin Khan translation of the Qur'an.
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No no no Paul was a Saint they say.never the less they kill’d him for what he wrote.
The gospelsssssssssssssssssssssss.
I think we can all agree on one thing, no Christian has the original Bible manuscript and no Muslim has the original Quran manuscript, what we have are copies of copies. For me, the important thing is we have tens of thousands of manuscripts and complete Bibles that predate the writing of the Quran that are in complete agreement with the ones that post-date the writing of the Quran. Even if not every last vowel or word has been perfectly preserved (which even with the Quran the vowel marks were added later and the earliest showed some variation as well), the message is what counts, the message of the New Testament has been perfectly preserved through time and we know that Jesus Christ 1) Claimed to be the Messiah and Son of God 2) He claimed he would be crucified and raised to life 3) These events happened 4) His disciples believed him to be raised from the dead. These events are undeniable from a historical-critical point of view, it really comes down to one thing, if one's religious beliefs flatly contradict this (which Islam clearly does on all 3 of these key components of the life of Christ) one is going to do everything to fish for evidence on the contrary and perhaps convince themselves that 'the Bible we have today is unreliable because we don't have the original' when in reality no surviving original document of anything in the ancient world or even the early medieval period survives unless it was etched on hard stone because manuscripts decomposed after a few hundred years, what we have are copies of copies, but if they all agree on the most important points isn't that what matters most? My Muslim friends, read the New Testament sometime with an open heart and mind and don't be afraid to ask the Creator about what is within, millions of lives have been changed if not billions by it, and our eternity hinges on us getting this right. Peace,
Hi Sam, even though I don't agree with you regarding the whole issue of Christianity and Islam I still respect you. Can you kindly tell me what I said where I am mistaken? What I am saying about the Bible is any variation between manuscripts are minuscule and infinitesmal in nature and does not affect any of the central components of the basic tenants of the teachings of the Bible, the gospel or Christianity. That was my point, we have the Bible before the Quran and the Bible after the Quran and there is no difference between the two. The Quran never mentions the previous Scripture being corrupted or explicitly says the way Muslim scholars today that the Al-Kitab was changed. If this is the case, then we should judge what is written in the Quran by what was already written and established in the Bible, not the other way around. Thanks and God bless!
@@darkstalker4255 Have you ever read the Bible or even just the Injil?
It's completely corrupted? Yet the Quran refers to it as God's Word and refers to Christians and Jews as 'People of the Book.' Look into the history book and the Hadith, you don't have the original Quran either, you have copies of copies. I really don't understand why people always use this argument against the Bible.
The Bible isn't "completely corrupted", there are still truths in it. The Injil is a different matter, we can consider the Injil to be lost - the Injil was the original guidance Jesus (PBUH) came with, and Jesus didn't instruct anyone to write any of it down, we don't know how muhc of it was recorded, we don't know how much of it was lost, so calling anything the Injil today is dishonest.
The Quran is wholly different to the Injil and the Bible. Firstly the Quran (literally The Recitation) is an oral guidance and not scriptural. Secondly, Muhammad (PBUH) not only tasked people to write this oral message down, but taught people to memorize it in its' entirety. Both the written and the memorized Quran were propogated through generations. If we lost all manuscripts of the Quran this wouldn't matter one bit - the Quran has been preserved through the hearts and minds of Muslims throughout history, in a way that no other book or message has been. Not only that, but the mere sayings of Muhammad had also been propogated much in the same way. If we judge the two religions by the nature and preservation of their original messages from God then Islam stands tall, and anyone who disagrees with this is simply being dishonest.
Whenever I read the New Testament, it's so clear which bits are correct and which bits are not. The crazy thing is, the bits in the NT that seem off to me are not only going against what is taught in the Quran, but they are largely in contradiction of the OT too. I must say though, most of the Bible is fine, the problems come from Christians explaining passages in ways that jus don't make sense, the passages just don't say the things Christians claims they do. Like the Trinty - this isn't explains anywhere at all but is constantly contradicted.
Drooblemeister, I humbly challenge YOU to read the NT whilst putting aside everything that isn't clearly stated in the scriptures. If you have to read someones explanations for a passage then ignore their explanation. They aren't Jesus, they aren't tested, they have no authority on God's truth. Use your own heart and mind and try to truly connect with your scripture. When you see passages where Jesus says "The Father is greater than I', and then 'I and the Father are One just as the Disciples are One with Us', what do you honestly take away from this?
@@Ohmz27 The reason why Jesus says 'The Father is greater than I,' we have to understand one thing, Jesus was fully God and fully human while on this earth, when he came to earth, he for a time put himself in the temporal and finite, the infinite stepped into what is finite and in this context, during Jesus' 33 years of life on this earth he surrendered some of his divine attributes (like knowing certain events that would happen the next day) and chose to be completely dependent on the Father. The Trinity is never mentioned, correct, but I could find you verses that clearly mention the Father is God, the Son Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit is God and that God is One Being yet 3 unique dimensions or aspects to His nature. Forget about the idea of God being 3 separate persons because it seems to divide God up, however, we believe God is absolutely One in Being, One in Essence, and yet tri-dimensional by nature, this is the challenge of attempting to limit God who God is when it comes to our own human understanding. Anyways, I was wondering if could explain something my friend, why it is that the Quran affirms the Injil and speaks positively whenever it is mentioned in the Quran and why does it not mention that the Injil got corrupted or changed? This would seem to me like a very important detail and momentous event if it ever happened and why is it that after all these years the 'true Injil' or 'older Injil' has never turned up? Peace and blessings,
Wow Muslim really believe Ishmael was the one that Abraham try to sacrifice? Literally if you search it in google who did Abraham try to sacrifice the 1st thing you see is this. According to the Hebrew Bible, God commands Abraham to offer his son Isaac as a sacrifice. After Isaac is bound to an altar, a messenger from God stops Abraham before the sacrifice finishes, saying "now I know you fear God." And there is no where in the Torah that says Hagar was Abraham wife. Wow Muhammad really lie to y’all
You’ve been lied to by paul
He went against what jesus taught
He changed the bible and people let it happen because he made all food clean which goes against what jesus taught
The New Testament was written by men
And you are saying this because the bible says that ? Bible is a man made book well most of it
Especially stuff like jesus was risen from death and he died for your sins
No one died for your sins they are yours and you will be asked about them
Just cause I believe jesus died for me is not just because alot of people get away with horrible things so you saying they will be in heaven too ? Na it’s logical think about it ......
Stop taking the easy way out , thats christianity in a nutshell
Heaven cant be this cheap , i believe so therefore i should be granted heaven thats unjust to the people you’ve hurt and lied to and stole from ......
Juicebox 01 one. I never said I was Christian so if u want to debate tell me the topics and I will debate my point of view
Na you already exposed yourself as a Christian by writing that comment what you talking about?
Juicebox 01 also I said issac was the one that was almost to be Sacrifice by Abraham can you prove my statement wrong and stop talking about a topic I never brought up