Home built mechanical sound recorder

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ส.ค. 2012
  • Here is my version of a mechanical sound recorder based on a turntable. It's possible to record up to 4 minutes on a blank CD. The quality of my camera's mic captured sound is lower than that of the real playback, videos with original sound will follow.
    By now, the system records sound files played on computer, in real time. The files are "anti-RIAA" equalized. For further bass attenuation, 2u2 bipolar capacitor is connected in series with the cutting head. I hope to build some analog anti-riaa filter and to use it as regular voice or music recorder.
    The cutting head includes a powerful all-range speaker. The speaker drives the lightweight aluminum arm to which the "indenting" stylus is attached.
    The mechanism which moves the cutting head is just a CD player's tracking device:)
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  • @holtzman72
    @holtzman72  10 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    For all who have questions: please look my second video with closeups and explanations, this video is just what I have, no plans in any form exist for this device. I built it from scratch improvizing and using existing parts!th-cam.com/video/Bn-kDCelsBM/w-d-xo.html

    • @orospakr
      @orospakr 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hi! This is such an amazing project. I would love to hear a direct capture of the reproduced audio. :)

    • @vamdam6730
      @vamdam6730 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      что использовали в качестве резца?

    • @holtzman72
      @holtzman72  9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sasha Podorvanov th-cam.com/video/Bn-kDCelsBM/w-d-xo.html Там показан процесс заточки, можно использовать даже канцелярскую кнопку, а лучше - обломок сверла.

    • @vamdam6730
      @vamdam6730 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Спасибо.

    • @drrobotnikmeanbeanma
      @drrobotnikmeanbeanma 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it a way to record music on a blank cd with a record player cause i got a lot of blanks ??

  • @martinda7446
    @martinda7446 10 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    I just adore this. The irony of using a CD for the medium. Magnificent.

    • @wii1245
      @wii1245 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Martin D A how do you vacuum the swarfs?

  • @flamencoprof
    @flamencoprof 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing how the application of intelligence can reduce what was once unattainable technology to something as basic as this. Millions of people have enough education to figure out how to do this, but have not. I am impressed and congratulate you on your ingenuity and practicality.

    • @holtzman72
      @holtzman72  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your comment! I actually have used many ready-made components here, so it is not as basic as it seems. The arrangement is simple, but the components are not: computer for equalisation, amplifier, CD drive, gearbox, speaker, decent turntable...

    • @flamencoprof
      @flamencoprof 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      By "basic" I meant that you have understood the basic principles involved. Using ready-made components is thus a demonstration that you have understood how each component works, and repurposed them in an intelligent way. I actually avoided using the words "simple" or "easy" because this is neither.

  • @rich3371
    @rich3371 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love it man, this is the kind of stuff that I spend all my free time on - really cool intricate things of no real consequence. Figuring out how to make something is what makes life fun. Good job from a fellow "inventor".

  • @chapeteglian
    @chapeteglian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    EXCELENT! You should use a laser disc to make an LP!

  • @user-mf1qc2it8b
    @user-mf1qc2it8b 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Хорошо получилось! Звук на уровне электрофонов 2-3 класса, но я думаю, что нет предела совершенству! К тому же нарезано в домашних условиях, это достойно уважения!

    • @user-jp4xy6jx3f
      @user-jp4xy6jx3f 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ндэээ звук нисавсем качиственный !!!сильно теряет качество из вонтаво длинного штока и видать иза иглы и зависит от температуры нарезаемого пластика!!!

  • @1959Berre
    @1959Berre 8 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Finally the proof that CD sounds better dan vinyl ;)

    • @CoopyKat
      @CoopyKat 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Uh....NO, that's not what this "proves". CD does not sound better, because digital sound cuts out a lot of the analog sound when it's transferred to CD. The reason people THINK CD sounds better is that it's scratch and noise-proof. Vinyl records/analog recording is way better. You are confusing the physical material of the CD with the concept of ANALOG SOUND.

    • @SilverShr0ud
      @SilverShr0ud 7 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      CoopyKat You missed that joke, hard.

    • @ksteiger
      @ksteiger 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      CoopyKat horse shit. why do people insist on saying thus bullshit?

    • @arifakyuz7673
      @arifakyuz7673 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dude, it was a joke. He even put a damn WINK emoticon! I respect your opinion, but wrong comment to talk about this.

    • @whatevernamegoeshere3644
      @whatevernamegoeshere3644 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CoopyKat Even then, you can put any data on cd. If you want, it's 2 minutes of data in a 700 meg file that has everything from 2Hz to 100kHz at a high sample rate. Then it would be objectively better than vinyl in that it has literally the same audio down to billionth decimal accuracy but it removes the mechanical issues coming from needle springs and dust. And if you want proof that this works, well yeah most modern records are burnt out from a digital copy with a high sample rate

  • @pulezanpulezan4918
    @pulezanpulezan4918 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Congratulations on making this great machine. The recorded sound quality is actually pretty good. Would be very cool to own one of these record cutters.

  • @Sirrom0206
    @Sirrom0206 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this project! I never would have thought of doing this.

  • @pcallas66
    @pcallas66 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    That looks like a belt driven turntable. I'm amazed that it's strong enough to pull the platter with the high pressure drag from the cutting head. This is a great video. The audio is clean on the cut, also. Thank you for sharing. I love innovation!!!

  • @lizichell2
    @lizichell2 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    its very good for a home made cutter. The bass is not distorted and its very balanced

  • @holtzman72
    @holtzman72  12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Спасибо, Сергей!
    Ничего конкретного этот эксперимент не преследовал. Просто интересно было малыми средствами воссоздать ушедшую технологию. Меня как дизайнера вообще интересуют "тупиковые" ветви развития техники. Существовало много интересных аудио и видео форматов и способов записи и воспроизведения. Всё это забывается, а ведь были и гениальные решения, борьба за улучшение характеристик...

  • @holtzman72
    @holtzman72  11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Actually, you are right. All the deep bass was digitally removed before recording. It causes greater amplitudes on recording and playback, which add great distortions. Only professional cutting equipment is capable of good frequency response both for bass and for treble.

  • @RobertoGinsburg
    @RobertoGinsburg 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    AMAZING!! The principle of Thomas Young and Thomas Edison and E.C. Wente applied to a CD. Youre a genius really.

  • @fearsomerabbit
    @fearsomerabbit 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That is freaking awsome! Great idea using CD's

  • @user-oh1mc3tb2r
    @user-oh1mc3tb2r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In the Soviet Union, this method was used to make plates on postcards with a thin coating. The plates had drawings on them. My mother was given one with a voice greeting and three songs

  • @chuffpup
    @chuffpup 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this guys projects. One very clever and resourceful person. Cheers.

  • @derpinbird1180
    @derpinbird1180 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats really stunning quality especially for a homemade device like that

  • @antonnym214
    @antonnym214 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best use i've seen for a CD. Well done! Sounds good to me. All good wishes.

  • @sbanner428
    @sbanner428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Impressed by how good it sounds, nice work :D

  • @luisantoniomarrega1120
    @luisantoniomarrega1120 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Esta maneira de gravação analógica é fantástica. Parabéns! Rio de Janeiro RJ Brasil

  • @quantumleap359
    @quantumleap359 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice work, excellent sound quality. You are quite the craftsman. Bravo!

  • @suvamay2011
    @suvamay2011 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastic idea. I like your project.

  • @GrotePVVfan
    @GrotePVVfan 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great! I really enjoy experiments like this!

  • @SivaKumar-jo8km
    @SivaKumar-jo8km ปีที่แล้ว

    மிகவும் அருமை.
    வெகு நாட்களாக தேடிய செய்தி.
    நன்றி .
    வாழ்த்துக்கள்...

  • @antonnym214
    @antonnym214 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done! The playback quality is way better than i expected.

  • @ferolcat2009
    @ferolcat2009 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    For something home made and that really looks like it as well the results are impressive, I like it..

  • @skillful_DIY_fan
    @skillful_DIY_fan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I like very much such projects. It looks great, like real McGyver work.

    • @holtzman72
      @holtzman72  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! And believe me or not, I did not hear about McGyver until your comment, there is really cool stuff in it.

    • @tarstarkusz
      @tarstarkusz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The sound quality is rather surprising. Not exactly hi-fi, but doesn't sound 1/2 bad either.

  • @turntabuler78
    @turntabuler78 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great results!! Many congratulations.

  • @holtzman72
    @holtzman72  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do not burn CDs any more. All my CD players stopped working while turntables still survive. Many burned and even regular CDs became unplayable while LPs still play back good quality.
    This project was just fun for me, kind of technological humor.

  • @107wb
    @107wb 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This actually sounds really good

  • @thecrazy8888
    @thecrazy8888 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    man the more i lisent the more im impressed this is incredible, I wish you gave some explanations

  • @MrsOliva
    @MrsOliva 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    В производство бы такую чудесную вещицу запустить. Для всех любителей делать не только перезаписи, но и записывать голоса близких людей. Бизнесмены, намёк понятен ? Надежда на вас, так как не все с золотыми руками рождены.

  • @MikeGervasi
    @MikeGervasi 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brother, you get an A+ for inventiveness and effort.

  • @Zarkovision
    @Zarkovision 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is a highly impressive result. Compared with my Gakken phonograph from Japan which works basically by the same system it is really great.

  • @mannye
    @mannye 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super cool. Thanks for posting it!

  • @A3Kr0n
    @A3Kr0n ปีที่แล้ว

    There's something oddly satisfying about putting an analog recording on a CD.

  • @BurkenProductions
    @BurkenProductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! So now you can have both digital and analog data on the same disk! Awesome!! :D

  • @LanceCampeau
    @LanceCampeau 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is absolutely awesome stuff. Well done.

  • @holtzman72
    @holtzman72  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your kind feedback!
    The speaker is not so large but heavy. It's about 8 cm and weights about 200 gram. I removed the protective cap from its magnets to save weight, because CD tracking drive feels hard moving cutting head, counterweight and the rigid frame. The weight load on the stylus is just below 100g.
    Funny enough but i don't know what wattage the speaker is rated, I bought it second hand with no specks on it. It's about 5 Ohm and feels to be above 20W, at least.

  • @chrischris02
    @chrischris02 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice and simple design! :)

  • @williamdrake6711
    @williamdrake6711 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    that would be cool to have the digital song on one side so you could play it in CD player, but then have the cut song on other side to playback on record player. so you then have a single in both mediums....

    • @GoemonLovesFujiko
      @GoemonLovesFujiko 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Quick Call Jack WHite!!!!

    • @benmmaddog
      @benmmaddog 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@merylodrama search techman Vinyl-Disc - Vinyl & CD combined

  • @pnmadhu1962
    @pnmadhu1962 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir you did an excellent job.

  • @edgrmno
    @edgrmno 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Very good!!!
    Sensacional!!!
    Ensine como montar essa mesa gravadora. Muito interessante!!!
    Parabéns!!!

  • @holtzman72
    @holtzman72  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, good notice! As soon as time allows, I'll come back to this project and check it.

  • @sumitgenzyme
    @sumitgenzyme 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maksim.. Fabulous job done

  • @cronos1.2_sqrt5.2
    @cronos1.2_sqrt5.2 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Revenge of the vinyl :)
    Absolutely brilliant, BRAVO !!!

  • @gonchujam
    @gonchujam 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    So good! Low frequencies are great! And I listened to this song today haha. Great job!

  • @patricksudbury
    @patricksudbury 10 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Make a tutorial on how to build one!

  • @nicolamastrorilli4454
    @nicolamastrorilli4454 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Di molti visti su FB... sicuramente il migliore.. congratulazioni..

  • @sunilrajjjjc
    @sunilrajjjjc 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    clearly demonstrated.....very good effort...

  • @gennaromonte4345
    @gennaromonte4345 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, what did you put in front of the speaker? Can you explain me how did you do that cone silver, and what to did you put? (Sorry for the english, i'm italian) please answer me. =)

  • @gnored
    @gnored 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing accomplishment!

  • @peternolan814
    @peternolan814 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Maksim,
    I wouldn't even have thought of using a bank CD on which to make the recording. It would never crossed my mind that it might be possible to do what you have done. You are a mechanical genius. :). Peter Nolan.(Ph.D., experimental physics). Dublin. Ireland.

  • @holtzman72
    @holtzman72  12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks indeed everybody for your reactions, they are much appreciated!

  • @danielrperez5778
    @danielrperez5778 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing! Long live DIY! By the way, it doesn't have to be a blank CD: of course any CD, written or blank CD-R or DVDR will do.

    • @the_eminent_Joshua_E_Hrouda
      @the_eminent_Joshua_E_Hrouda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Even the blank, clear piece of plastic that they sometimes include on a spindle of discs! :)

  • @KeritechElectronics
    @KeritechElectronics 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sounds good on playback, the frequency response is quite nice, if not for YT's compression and mike quality. Nice project.

  • @smeh3929
    @smeh3929 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Качественно нарезало однако! Супер!

  • @LHUPA
    @LHUPA 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simply genial! I'm building one with an old HP inkjet printer and portable phonograph turntable with an hard disk drive as cutter head (knowing that an HDD can make a speaker with the coil and arm that can transfer signal from the input to mechanical energy driving a stylus that make a groove on the CD/DVD.)! Actually, I merged the project to another low priced all-plastic HP inkjet printer so called "APOLLO" that's stunningly brought all the solutions to the cutter head motor installation!

  • @holtzman72
    @holtzman72  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! I tried office pins, then switched to drill bits. I sharpened both to form a cone, slightly less than 90 degrees. See my another video for sharpening methods.

  • @toniturnwald9890
    @toniturnwald9890 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome, pretty good work. Thank you

  • @chadergeist
    @chadergeist 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job! I wish I had you build one for me.

  • @HelloKittyFanMan.
    @HelloKittyFanMan. 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh sure, with all those hisses, and all those snaps, crackles, and pops! I'm sure that's why PhilSony was so successful with their digital disc invention!

  • @captaintrips2980
    @captaintrips2980 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great idea, using a compact disc as a recording medium. But it will wear quickly.

  • @derekscorner5287
    @derekscorner5287 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing work.

  • @holtzman72
    @holtzman72  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! Yes the idea is to compensate RIAA equalisation of phono preamp. In fact, it is not enough for correct recording and for this reason i put a capacitor in series with the cutter.

  • @ArsenyKa
    @ArsenyKa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great! Simple and efficient!!!

  • @MrCougar214
    @MrCougar214 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cutting the tracks onto the cd media also seems to reduce noise for quieter playback. There are no pops and skips which I am assuming is because the cd media is denser material than vinyl.

    • @FG-td4vs
      @FG-td4vs 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pops and clicks only exist when the vinyl is dirty or damaged, nothing to do with the materiel used

  • @davejames5074
    @davejames5074 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally brilliant - well done. What to do on a wet afternoon - lol

  • @hernanvassallo9902
    @hernanvassallo9902 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    amazing, I need to build this machine too!!! congratulation!!!

  • @MegaZimZim
    @MegaZimZim 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you transfere the horizontal motion from the speaker to vertical motion in the needle?

  • @k333ization
    @k333ization 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    my speaker that I use for recording head is 10.5 cm wide.How far will have to be the head of the VCR from the needle engraver?

  • @janomusicashow
    @janomusicashow 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What weight did you give to the needle to make the groove on the disc? Did you need to heat the material to be recorded?
    Thank you! excellent work!!!!!!!

  • @TQRROCKS
    @TQRROCKS 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool video and great job!
    I would like to have something like built so I could cut my own records. I have a good Technics turntable, but, I don't have the skill to make the lathe.
    If there was a way to install a sliding track on the board for the cutter, you could probably cut full length records. :)

  • @k333ization
    @k333ization 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    As the distance between the needle tip and the main axis (head VCR), can fit 55 mm?

  • @MattSiegel
    @MattSiegel 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    awesome! you've invented the 45 :D

  • @peternolan814
    @peternolan814 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Maksim,
    Well done. Your device is very impressive. Peter Nolan.(Ph.D., experimental physics). Dublin. Ireland.

  • @JoeSmith-cy9wj
    @JoeSmith-cy9wj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    About time somebody got an infinite sampling rate into one of those

  • @rubixcube6
    @rubixcube6 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice setup!

  • @MarkDaGardna
    @MarkDaGardna 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure if there is a market for this technology but I think this is really cool...

  • @k333ization
    @k333ization 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since he used the motor that move was a doll to make move his head recorder, an alternative could fit one of those GEAR MOTOR for this purpose?

  • @MrVinylObsessive
    @MrVinylObsessive 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating stuff!
    Which material the cutting stylus is made? Is it heated?

  • @miroslavswigon5144
    @miroslavswigon5144 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Genius Inventor!

  • @emmanuelwin1949
    @emmanuelwin1949 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s really impressive

  • @stelleratorsuprise8185
    @stelleratorsuprise8185 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done!
    it would be cool if the CD still works in a CD player, this could be a good gimmick for a present.

  • @zark212
    @zark212 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Work my friend. Love to see something like this and I also mod hi-fi. Look forward to your videos :)

  • @stephlou4456
    @stephlou4456 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you custom make music if you had a customer who requested it? some already made music that was found on the internet and asked you to put it on cd, vinyl-style. like you did in this video?

  • @foureyedchick
    @foureyedchick 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not bad for a home-brew DIY record cutter !

  • @lookoutleo
    @lookoutleo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its the best one ive seen and the sound is excelent, wonder if it would be possible to polish old vinyl back to blank and record new track on it

  • @Sirrom0206
    @Sirrom0206 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone need to see this!

  • @holtzman72
    @holtzman72  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The small aluminum cone is made of foil from disposable baking dish. There is a balancing arm connected to this cone, on the other end of this arm engraving needle is attached.

  • @BarnacleButtock
    @BarnacleButtock 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It sounds pretty good!!!

  • @Helderhugo
    @Helderhugo 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And it sounds great!

  • @manuelaleman4173
    @manuelaleman4173 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow I would buy one of these.

  • @holtzman72
    @holtzman72  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your feedback!

  • @dave631bnetzero
    @dave631bnetzero 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi
    I see your transducer (Speaker) has a second magnet. This is called a "bucking" magnet and helps to remove unwanted magnetic field from the back of the speaker that will effect a CTR tube. It is reverse phased, meaning it drops the magnetic strength of this transducer. Removing it will make the magnetic strength higher on this cutter. (Louder recording). Nice job!

  • @antizero100
    @antizero100 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg that is amazing!!

  • @zarrir
    @zarrir 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have watched the second video but still did not understand what is driving the recording arm so steady

  • @holtzman72
    @holtzman72  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just to clear things: what you see is an experiment, this particular machine is not for sale. You can not record "real" vinyl by it because it is not reliable enough to make multiple copies, and the groove depth and record level are smaller than normal. And you can not play back on every turntable - the record diameter is smaller than standard. A good turntable is needed, but the needle wear may be greater than normal.

  • @WAQWBrentwood
    @WAQWBrentwood 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I had a rig like this back when half my attempts at burning CDs generated "coasters" as I would have loved to have been able "recycle" those disks! Instead the became airgun targets!