Yes! Porsche hit it out of the park with this release. The design really looks nice, front looks better, seats appear to be upgraded, they added rear seats option, and kept the manual. Only slight improvements everywhere over 992.1 and really nothing bad (analog tach is gone). This is a big win
@@nafnaf0actually no analog tacho is a downside for me. They should also leave alone ignition „key” in regular versions too. But those new buckets looks super nice!
Also that's a Porsche not a Corvette. It's practically the same original shape since day one ! Just modified and scaled up even after over 50 years of development. What do you expect from a facelift?
Data & facts: Porsche 911 GT3 (Touring) facelift Colors: Oak Green Neo White Aerodynamic optimization of the front Always double wishbone front (like 911 ST and GT3 RS) Anti dive measures Matrix LED Wheels 20“ front / 21“ rear Suspension rework PASM and rear-axle-steering standard Length 4,57 m 180“ New diffusor 911 GT3 with fixed rear wing 911 GT3 Touring with retractable wing and available with rear seats 4,0 l naturally aspirated 6-cyl flat engine 510 hp 7-speed-PDK or 6-speed manual 3,4 sec acceleration 0-100 km/h (3,9 s manual) Optimized steering and shorter gear ratio Red line 9.000 rpm Less particles and emissions Lightest configuration 1420 kg Optional bucket seat Optional Weissach (18 k) or lightweight package with CFRP each (34 k) 209.000 Euro entry price Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.
Its an emission spec car with 20Nm less torque and minor largely irrelevant tweaks. The 991.2 GT cars are far more interesting and generally better all round.
The face-lift looks better for sure and the new seats are much cooler, the only caveat is the digital Guage cluster, the older model with the analog tachometer is much better.
Absolutely agree. But the rear seats for kids is a good bonus. Love all other details. I would kill to have the ANALOG center option back... The shorter gearing would make the car more usable. Porsche just knows how to put together enough details for the megafans and also rich buyers of course. 🙂
@ghostridertom the shorter gear ratio only comes when you option it with the Leichtbau package but yeah it would make the car more fun to drive, the question now is, the guys who already got the S/T would be so livid cos the new touring is basically the S/T
Hey Thomas 👍🏻 The 911 has been my favourite sports car since the 930 turbo was new. The most developed sports car in the world is still the best IMHO. I painted pictures and built models of the 930 turbo when I was young, I got to test drive a new 991 C4S when I was 56 years old. What a machine ! What do you think of them to drive ?
If you really are an objective auto review guy you should make a review about TOGG T10X. This is a no brainer for me. A fantastic car that can easily compete with all these electric cars you are reviewing.
A great preview, thank you. If you have €250k and are looking for your last ICE car, a flat six, manual shift, proper UI/UX without bling infotainment, sub 4 secs to 60 mph in the touring looks like heaven. With the low weight and consequent agility it shows just how far EVs have to go to replicate what we have had with the best ICE cars. Sadly heading for extinction.
Why is every sports/performance car’s seat an issue unless it’s the comfort option? Even without doing reasonable distance in them beforehand. For many people a bucket seat is more comfortable and accommodating.
£209k and even then, that's as barebones as it gets in the automotive industry. The resale crash happening just before these is amazing, cuz we probably don't get to see £350k empty base cars not long after these come into the market.
😅 Shift by wire is what u call a system without a real wire, thats the strange thing. So the step from P to Drive is wired, all other steps are electrical
200k hypercar prices?! Bro, hypercar prices are all in the millions now. These carmakers are faster at grabbing higher profit opportunities than their car(s) are to 100 mph.
Funny enough, I also prefer the 992.1 GT3, but not the 992.1 Touring. The 992.2 Touring looks really appealing with the folding buckets and rear seats!
The countless variations of Porsche 911 make it impossible to notice any facelift if there was one to qualify . It reminds an old woman with more makeup... Though as a money machine there is no substitute.
Another overpriced porsche model..😂😂 for $350k price tag in usa porsche should think again..this year sales went down %7 ..for this car its not worth it at all..naahh i pass this time..
I am sick of you mentioning animal free interior. Do you have a leather belt or shoes? Do you eat meat? Do you eat butter? If yes, then stop mentioning it.
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment. You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at th-cam.com/video/S1aNZeoatmE/w-d-xo.html). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable. A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: th-cam.com/video/1pRNkW9nrrw/w-d-xo.html And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: th-cam.com/video/6vXePQi_MAk/w-d-xo.html New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: th-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/w-d-xo.html More and more natural materials are rising: th-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/w-d-xo.html Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: th-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/w-d-xo.html For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: th-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/w-d-xo.html Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. Also a group of researchers and German journalists from public media could recent directly trace the connection between car animal leather production and illegal burning down Amazon rain forest: www.daserste.de/information/reportage-dokumentation/ard-story/videos/illegales-leder-video-100.html In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? Remember that animal skin leather is no different to fur, fur is just leather where the hair is still on. And fur is widely not accepted for clothing anymore, and of course not for cars. We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future. For a great insight into sustainability in the automotive industry, you can also check out our extensive documentary: th-cam.com/video/-8gNXlRGngA/w-d-xo.html
I wear no animal leather nor do I consume any animal products. Didnt grow up that way, just learned over time that it is the right thing to do if you love all animals.
@@autogefuehl I read the whole thing. But damn, Thomas! He can't come back at you after that even with a lawyer, let alone a keyboard! The information is clear. May I ask, however, if you had an opportunity to interview Andreas?
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This is our in-depth review of the Porsche 911 GT3 facelift including the Porsche 911 GT3 Touring. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and technology.
00:00 Porsche 911 GT3 Weissach
01:31 Technology details
03:47 Sound check and engine
06:22 911 GT3 Touring
09:00 Why naturally aspirated?
10:52 Indicators
11:34 Interior GT3 quality
12:33 Bucket seat feature
15:05 Cockpit
19:10 GT3 Touring interior
20:25 Rear seats
22:28 Frunk
23:10 Price
40K increase and no bump in power?
Just look at that GT3 Touring. That's perfection. I could look at it whole day.
Really glad they kept the start ‘key’ in the GT3!
Yes! Porsche hit it out of the park with this release. The design really looks nice, front looks better, seats appear to be upgraded, they added rear seats option, and kept the manual. Only slight improvements everywhere over 992.1 and really nothing bad (analog tach is gone). This is a big win
What’s the matter for you? Are you Porsche customer, which would buy this car?
@@nafnaf0actually no analog tacho is a downside for me. They should also leave alone ignition „key” in regular versions too. But those new buckets looks super nice!
The Oak Green Neo paint on the Touring is beautiful. Best paint colour for a 911 in my eyes.....
Great review (like always) calm, systematic, clear, thoroughly reviewing the external aspects, without clickbait.
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Thomas is so good at reviewing cars... pointing out all of the important and subtle details. Great job, Thomas!
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What a big change!! I almost didn't recognize the 911
Haha this shit 100 years will be the same i expected hybrid versions for gt1 2 3 4
Never heard the term face-lift? and what it usually means? You do, you just want to sound sarcastic and clever but you don't.
Also that's a Porsche not a Corvette. It's practically the same original shape since day one ! Just modified and scaled up even after over 50 years of development. What do you expect from a facelift?
It's a face lift, what did u expect?
😂😂😂
Thomas my man, the Official LIVE Stream is happening now. Just give them a second to finish first lmao.
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Data & facts:
Porsche 911 GT3 (Touring) facelift
Colors:
Oak Green Neo
White
Aerodynamic optimization of the front
Always double wishbone front (like 911 ST and GT3 RS)
Anti dive measures
Matrix LED
Wheels 20“ front / 21“ rear
Suspension rework
PASM and rear-axle-steering standard
Length 4,57 m 180“
New diffusor
911 GT3 with fixed rear wing
911 GT3 Touring with retractable wing and available with rear seats
4,0 l naturally aspirated 6-cyl flat engine 510 hp
7-speed-PDK or 6-speed manual
3,4 sec acceleration 0-100 km/h (3,9 s manual)
Optimized steering and shorter gear ratio
Red line 9.000 rpm
Less particles and emissions
Lightest configuration 1420 kg
Optional bucket seat
Optional Weissach (18 k) or lightweight package with CFRP each (34 k)
209.000 Euro entry price
Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.
Thank you for the information!
Its an emission spec car with 20Nm less torque and minor largely irrelevant tweaks. The 991.2 GT cars are far more interesting and generally better all round.
And Then There Were Three…Chris, Matt & now Tomas! 🙏
The face-lift looks better for sure and the new seats are much cooler, the only caveat is the digital Guage cluster, the older model with the analog tachometer is much better.
Absolutely agree. But the rear seats for kids is a good bonus. Love all other details. I would kill to have the ANALOG center option back... The shorter gearing would make the car more usable. Porsche just knows how to put together enough details for the megafans and also rich buyers of course. 🙂
@ghostridertom the shorter gear ratio only comes when you option it with the Leichtbau package but yeah it would make the car more fun to drive, the question now is, the guys who already got the S/T would be so livid cos the new touring is basically the S/T
Never really understood as to why the Touring never had a rear-seat option prior to the face-lift. Always made sense for it to have it.
Man, that dark green one in the beginning looks sharp! Possibly the best looking 911 ever!
The green GT3 Touring is amazing! Awesome review as always.
🙏🙏
Besides the price it’s absolutely perfect. Thanks Thomas
The price jump is HUGE.
Still, "Autogefühl" sounds cooler than "Weissach" 😎 even in 4K, full screen, full length :) Let's go!
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Really struggling to think how they could improve the look of the 911. It's ultra-modern but also feels classic.
22:20 !!! 😂🤣 Thomas !
Wow, justo en la premiere, que buen servicio 😮
I love that they are able and still produce cars like this, for me, a bit too hard-core but still respect.
992.1 is still the best
And less 40000 euros
The new GT3 looks amazing!!!
WOW I just finished the live stream. You are fast ahaha.
timeless design , best car in the segment
Hey Thomas 👍🏻 The 911 has been my favourite sports car since the 930 turbo was new. The most developed sports car in the world is still the best IMHO. I painted pictures and built models of the 930 turbo when I was young, I got to test drive a new 991 C4S when I was 56 years old. What a machine ! What do you think of them to drive ?
Hey! Check it out: th-cam.com/video/pbwOswKuTwg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4pWJynjsn6y1Ez3z
i hope they sell as many as possible, i want to be able to buy a used one, one day :)
Love the Touring - would love to drive around Hochsauerlandkreis in one.
Same
I like the auto shifter stick
the touring is so nice
Love the Touring.
Glad to see the perfect review 😁
🙏🙏
Rear seats - awesome!
Some say that Thomas is still stuck in the back of that GT3 even now :)
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Great review!
🙏🙏
My 1981 ford escort GL had a removable middle part of the headrest 😉
Looks less mean BUT super futuristic! I like it :)
If you really are an objective auto review guy you should make a review about TOGG T10X. This is a no brainer for me. A fantastic car that can easily compete with all these electric cars you are reviewing.
i asked them for an opportunity but so far no answer
@@autogefuehl Hope you will get a chance and we can get a detailed review from you. That will be great. They are opening a branch in Stuttgart.
I hate the center exhaust . Aesthetically I like four fat quads on each side .
Beautiful, beautiful.
Great.
Too bad touring doesn't have the duck tail like the real one does under that fixed wing
A great preview, thank you.
If you have €250k and are looking for your last ICE car, a flat six, manual shift, proper UI/UX without bling infotainment, sub 4 secs to 60 mph in the touring looks like heaven. With the low weight and consequent agility it shows just how far EVs have to go to replicate what we have had with the best ICE cars. Sadly heading for extinction.
Cheers!
Good Job👌
🙏🙏
Also you can access the climate easily when the shift knob is in D ☺️
That ll help indeed
I'll take both pls!
Amazing, apart from the digital speedo
A hybrid analog/digital tachometer would be great. Something like in a BMW or Lexus.
@@stefanschuchardt5734or what the 911 had before the refresh lol
@@gavcom4060 yes now I remembering vaguely! OK, so it's even more baffling 🤷♂️
the model with the middle tachometer and screens on sides was so nice and classy
I like the Dakar version more 👌🏻
Ask and you shall receive.
Time code to see Thomas in the rear seats 21:50
Why is every sports/performance car’s seat an issue unless it’s the comfort option? Even without doing reasonable distance in them beforehand.
For many people a bucket seat is more comfortable and accommodating.
It depends on the car, its not always like that but often
Very good outfit coordination with the staging, coincidental or on purpose? :D
On purpose of course 😎
lovely car, but I'll probably just spend a "little" more and get a nice new Bentley? 😍
£209k and even then, that's as barebones as it gets in the automotive industry.
The resale crash happening just before these is amazing, cuz we probably don't get to see £350k empty base cars not long after these come into the market.
16:10 what Tomas!!!!, 😅 I don’t understand at all 😂
😅 Shift by wire is what u call a system without a real wire, thats the strange thing. So the step from P to Drive is wired, all other steps are electrical
@@autogefuehl got it, thanks Tomas❤️❤️❤️
kind of disappointing that they still leave the back seat in, why don't they make a storage room? For travel, for example.
Options :
€33,000 Weissach package
€11,000 Carbon ceramic brakes
€3,000 Matrix lights
€10,000 Magnesium wheels
€209,000 entry price. Porsche 911 has become hypercar price tag.
Naaa not hypercar… But dealership markups will be insane. When the RS comes out.. that will be hypercar prices.
you need nose lift too
need node lift too
200k hypercar prices?! Bro, hypercar prices are all in the millions now. These carmakers are faster at grabbing higher profit opportunities than their car(s) are to 100 mph.
Really glad I didn’t buy the ‘old’ gt3 RS 😀 I would’ve been very upset in the old model 😀
Easier for n/a engine reving high than forcefully charged engines!
I prefer the 992.1 gt3. The new front bumper looks awkward.
Funny enough, I also prefer the 992.1 GT3, but not the 992.1 Touring. The 992.2 Touring looks really appealing with the folding buckets and rear seats!
@@christophebrou1178 Agreed!
around 250k for a decent specced 911 gt3 💀 thats crazy
thats Lambo money
I always find the naming odd with Porsche. It seems so arbitrary. I really like the design of the touring though.
No analog rev, no Porsche
So much want.
Awesome
need more horse power for this specific car and for its price.
👍 for lack of EV today
Thomas the fastest man in the world 😂
Nice, too bad BMW can't keep it together like Porsche.
Bro. When we can expect the jetta GLI Europe version video.
Here we go: th-cam.com/video/E8qKVirNCmM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=c6Ie6MB0dBsrYtEJ
@@autogefuehl dame u replied me 😍 but i am asking that 2025 model now everyone is taking about.
@@autogefuehl th-cam.com/video/bupdE-VpbwY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Qy-qhWBeEMkwbfRK this car bro.
Sorry we cant get it here in EU, gotta be in US next time 😎
@@autogefuehl oh bad🥲
"""""facelift"""""
If you squint hard enough, you can really tell 😂
6:35 that lip spoiler is so ugly, they should have integrated it into the design of the wing and not just stick it on, looks so cheap
And of course it's heavier.
So its the same as the old one for 99.9%
The countless variations of Porsche 911 make it impossible to notice any facelift if there was one to qualify . It reminds an old woman with more makeup... Though as a money machine there is no substitute.
BOSE is also not lightweight lol
👌
200k for this?😂😂😂😂
A simple restyling and little else with few new features. A disappointment overall, yes.
Don’t understand why Thomas says PORSCH NOT POR SHER
Because they name is Porsche just like I pronounce it
👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️
Another overpriced porsche model..😂😂 for $350k price tag in usa porsche should think again..this year sales went down %7 ..for this car its not worth it at all..naahh i pass this time..
it has 20 nm less power than the 992.1…..🙄🙄🙄😡
😴😴😴
Porsche killed petrol Macan while AUDI is making new hybrid Q5. What a stupid management.
Indeed strange
I am sick of you mentioning animal free interior. Do you have a leather belt or shoes? Do you eat meat? Do you eat butter? If yes, then stop mentioning it.
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment.
You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at th-cam.com/video/S1aNZeoatmE/w-d-xo.html). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: th-cam.com/video/1pRNkW9nrrw/w-d-xo.html
And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: th-cam.com/video/6vXePQi_MAk/w-d-xo.html
New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: th-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/w-d-xo.html
More and more natural materials are rising: th-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/w-d-xo.html
Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: th-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/w-d-xo.html
For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: th-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/w-d-xo.html
Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
Also a group of researchers and German journalists from public media could recent directly trace the connection between car animal leather production and illegal burning down Amazon rain forest:
www.daserste.de/information/reportage-dokumentation/ard-story/videos/illegales-leder-video-100.html
In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? Remember that animal skin leather is no different to fur, fur is just leather where the hair is still on. And fur is widely not accepted for clothing anymore, and of course not for cars.
We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
For a great insight into sustainability in the automotive industry, you can also check out our extensive documentary:
th-cam.com/video/-8gNXlRGngA/w-d-xo.html
I wear no animal leather nor do I consume any animal products. Didnt grow up that way, just learned over time that it is the right thing to do if you love all animals.
@@autogefuehl I read the whole thing. But damn, Thomas! He can't come back at you after that even with a lawyer, let alone a keyboard! The information is clear.
May I ask, however, if you had an opportunity to interview Andreas?
@@autogefuehl If you live what you preach, I respect you.
Thanks! Yes thats all in the big feature linked
hm.. it looks too soft, like a vw beetle was pressed down.. its too round?
It's alawys been like that
@@brent9369 yeah. but now its even rounder
Thomas showing who the real boss in automotive industry is 💪🫡
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Why waste the money on the new one, the same power as the prior model, no real difference. What a waste.