I like what I have seen with President Biden seeming to acknowledge the rules of politics he held dear, honored, and plays by have changed. No need to sink to an abysmally low level, but he needs to reach people who consume news vastly differently.
Openly strategizing about how "to message" the continuation of lethal aid to Israel in the midst of a genocide really underscores the deplorable nature of the political class and highlights why there is such a profound cynicism when it comes to our institutions. You folks need to do some soul searching. For the children sheltering in Gaza as US weapons rain down around them, staring down famine, there are things much more important than the coming election. I don't know how you sleep at night trivializing human suffering as if it's all just a game.
I think it’s hard for a political class that couldn’t even admit that war crimes/ethnic cleansing happened in Iraq, to admit that ethnic cleansing is happening in Gaza. Americans want at least a 2 state solution and do not want a war in Iran, but elites just don’t get it. Also McGurk was awful about Iraq and Gaza.
Not to be offensive, but perhaps it's about maintaining some sort of relationship with Israel so that the current order in that general region doesn't completely collapse and lead to something worse. Obviously being the ones supplying Israel weapons in these circumstances is still morally wrong though.
Okay but we live here now and what should be done? Any dramatic change in treaty responsibilities requires 2/3 Senate approval or a full Congressional mandate. If the SCOTUS gives the okay on Presidential “immunity,” Biden can break our treaties with impunity. Until then, Constitutionally, our treaties have authority equivalent to the Constitution itself.
@@Ayyy_its_Wally One of the reporters in the courthouse said he clearly saw Trump writing specific quotes for his groupies to say. There are montages of the post court press hearings where they just repeat the same lines ad nauseum
I met Obama in Chicago when he was a newly elected Senator. I was his personal server at a banquet held by an upscale black organization. They kept him socially busy all night long and I had to make sure he was fed when he was available so I interacted with him all night. At the end he shook my hand, thanked me, and told me I was the best server he ever had. Months later, after he announced he was running for president, I ran into him again at the UIC pavilion at the end of a Chicago Flame game. I was again working catering and was moving a cart in the elevator when a hand stopped the door from closing and in walked Michelle and the girls, two body guards and bringing up the rear, Barack hearding everyone in. When he saw me, he said, "Hey, I know you. You were my server at the University club. I said, "Yes, I was. I heard you're running for President." "I am," he said, "Any advice? "As a matter of fact I had a thought," I answered," "This needs to be the last time you are the last one in the elevator. From now on, you have to let your security bring up the rear." Michelle gave him what came to be known as a trade mark, what did I tell you look. And he smiled sheepishly and said, "duly noted."
I'm a Democrat. I voted for Democrat Marianne Williamson. Republican Joe Biden student loan relief only allow loans under $15,0000. Most Democrats have over 50k in student loan debt
For a nation that's been making decisions on "vibes" for so long, its kinda scary that people can look at Obama and Trump and think that one is a sinister evil socialist communist whatever asinine statement they ascribe to him, and that Trump is a paragon of virtue. Religious fundamentalism is a scary thing.
occams razor would dictate that he doesnt actually care about that stuff (which seems to be a feature of devout christianity or religion in general - the more devout one is, the more following the morality of whatever religion they subscribe to is optional) I think he explains it in the same way he explains everything, with insultingly condescending gaslighting bullshit and because they've formed their own social bubble where their common goal is the opposite of what used to be the common good. Trumpism is the antonym to the concept of the common good. Don't pretend to actually know what these people are thinking, but thats what their actions tell me. They're not countering that narrative very effectively or seem to care about trying to, so I have to believe that these people are Machiavellian scumbags.
I ‘be always liked and respected Jen Psaki and how professional and credible she is. Listening to this interview now, I really like her even more. She is so down to earth and has a great sense of humor. Two attributes , those in the political realm could use more off. Thank you for your service to this country.
professional and credible jen Psaki ??? you call her credible,she is a liar The former White House press secretary disputed reports about Biden's conduct at a ceremony for fallen soldiers in her new book "Say More." former White House press secretary Jen Psaki lied in her recently released book, Say More, when she disputed the claim that President Joe Biden checked his watch at a ceremony for the 13 soldiers killed during Biden’s botched Afghanistan withdrawal in 20 Psaki said that “the president looked at his watch only after the ceremony had ended. Moments later, he and the First Lady headed toward their car.” Eyewitness accounts, prior reporting, and photos prove she’s lying.
It simply reveals what anyone with a brain already knew, that Biden and the Democrats are using the American justice system against their political opponent. The only tool/weapon they have against Trump is this juvenile lawfare. It's really sad 😔
She is a progressive Democrat. She is the only press secretary that has never lies. Biden's White House Press Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierree lied about Democrat Marianne Williamson. Every Democrat knew she was lying
I want to sit and listen to you two talk for hours about your knowledge and experiences through the world of global politics. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and senses of humor through your conversation.
JEN!!! THE WOMAN WHO BROUGHT BACK PRESS BRIEFINGS. AND ACTING LIKE A NORMAL RESPECTABLE PRESS SECRETARY. She will always have a special place in my heart. 😂
The circle back of lies ..The former White House press secretary disputed reports about Biden's conduct at a ceremony for fallen soldiers in her new book "Say More." former White House press secretary Jen Psaki lied in her recently released book, Say More, when she disputed the claim that President Joe Biden checked his watch at a ceremony for the 13 soldiers killed during Biden’s botched Afghanistan withdrawal in 20 Psaki said that “the president looked at his watch only after the ceremony had ended. Moments later, he and the First Lady headed toward their car.” Eyewitness accounts, prior reporting, and photos prove she’s lying.
Thanks for this. It is so great to hear smart, well informed, and articulate people talk about the real world from a VERY interesting perspective. Really enjoyable. Thanks!
Still to this day I believe if Hilary, had turned around when he loomed .. and said "Back off Jabba, I'm not your Princess"! .. she would have won it all right there .. I mean someone walking over behind your podium and invading your personal space is just so offensive
Mike Johnson reminds me of my Mother's cat. She would gift my Mom with a deceased mouse that she proudly displayed on the back porch in front of the other pets. All the while smothering Mom with affection.
I love that trump says, "I'm a very good golfer", when according to everything _I've_ heard, he's not even a very good _cheater,_ that is, everyone _knows_ he cheats, the pros _for sure_ know he cheats, and they all just laugh at him....😆
I love this conversation. Ya'll were so young and so close to a special time in history. Incidently, I was also hooked by that same Obama speech. At that moment, I realized I hadn't been that excited about a presidential candidate since 1960 when I was only 10. Great current thoughts and insights, too.
it's not just more accurate, it's precise. President Trump is figure from the past (only 4 years ago but still, he has not been President Trump since January 20th 2021)
Thrilled to see you both! Congratulations on the birth of your son, Tommy and Hanna! Jen, you're tops, no matter the discussion, you are a staunch defender of truth. Love my PSA
I wish everyone would acknowledge the evidence that shows this isn't just an Israeli government issue. It's systemic. We will have failed if we don't place consequences as we did for South Africa. I remain disappointed that PSA still unconsciously place Israeli at a higher status than everyone else. It's all about them or done to them, never what they did to get here.
82,410,438 Democrats voted for Democrat Marianne Williamson. Democrat Marianne Williamson won the popular vote by 8,428,808 more votes than Republican Joe Biden. Democrat Marianne Williamson won 232 eletoral college votes. 73,981,630 Republicans voted for Republican Joe Biden. Republican Joe Biden won 306 eletoral college votes.
What do you mean it’s a “clever work-around” of the gag order?! It’s not clever, and the order specifically says addresses this scenario, prohibit Trump from using others to violate the gag order.
The difficulty is in proving that Trump specifically directed these statements. It’s kinda hilarious that Mike J very obviously read off his statement from a note we could all see was written in Sharpie. 😂 That’s some peak multi-directional plausible deniability. Imo Mike J is the VP pick. That would be really awful because he’s clever, devious, and extremely electable.
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@@imperialmotoring3789 If you actually dug a little deeper, you might have found out, there was a short career as a lawyer between 1968 and 1972. Law Clerk, public defender,, lawyer in a bigger firm and own small law firm.
@@imperialmotoring3789do you tell the truth much. He was a. Lifeguard an attorney single father and all around good guy. He worked 2 jobs to get by, unlike Mr born with a silver spoon up his butt given millions from daddy which he quickly flushed down a gold toilet with 6 separate bankruptcies.
I love how it took all these people 5+ weeks to show up in support of trump. It just shows they are reading the stories about how his family doesnt show up for him, this was their answer to that. 🤔
Two Australian moderators are needed, as they are actually professional journalists: who know how to moderate and ask proper follow ups, and will not stand for any BS. Sarah Ferguson (from Australia's ABC - who interviewed Sidney Powell to great effect) and Axios' Jonathan Swan. They'll be just as demanding of Biden as of Trump, thereby putting them in stark contrast. US corporate journalists will not do it, except, perhaps Chris Hayes and Lawrence O'Donnell, but they'd be seen by Trump as "partisan".
I agree with this. I've watched a decent amount of Australian news and they completely blow away the media in our own country. It just comes off as so much more honest reporting.
The first time I remember seeing Jen Psaki is when she was introduced as Joe Biden's Press Secretary. I thought at the time (and still think) she was the best Press Secretary I've ever seen in my lifetime. Her clarity and command of the podium is spot on. I've had over 50 years experience in communications in various positions including news reporting. I don't usually share a compliment like this, but I mean what I say. She's good. I'm humbled by her excellence and professionalism.
Hey, at the end of your pod, you say you've gone way too long. I'm gonna disagree. I wanted more. I love Jen Psaki and all the insight and stories about working in various administrations and yada yada. But, that's the sign of good showmanship. Always leave them wanting more. Please bring her back. She's amazing.
I'm surprised by the "even handed analyses" of Netanyahu from Jen Psaki and Tom. I would have been absolutely LIVID if my liberal boss got talked down to by a rightwinger in his own [Oval] office as POTUS Obama had to endure. Israel and America deserved to have had a pleasant conversation between POTUS Obama and someone like Prime Minister Golda Meir, but no. People like Bibi are why we can't good things!
He can’t interrupt and he doesn’t have an audience. So…he has to answer questions…Trump has no depth on any topic. And, because of his dumb “truths” we pretty much know everything he has to say. “I’ll do it better” with no actual insight on how he would do anything. He literally fell for Team Biden’s trap.
Re: Iz-Pal messaging for Biden: "Terrorism is unacceptable, but so is genocide" Call it what it is. That's not just good politics, it's world changing speech, if it comes from the president of the United States. While the situation is overwhelmingly complex, it is inarguable that the IDF is flagrantly committing war crimes in reaction to Hamas terrorism, and both parties should by any rights be held to account with prudent efficacy. If Biden aims accountability at the IDF and Hamas evenly, while championing both the Israeli and Palestinian people, he will not only win the debate and gain massive popular support on both sides, but he'll have a blast-proof position from which to bring renewed leadership to international peacekeeping efforts. The optics of shirking this obvious solution are ominous at best.
Go Joe. We don't have to like everything -- and we won't -- but Biden laid the groundwork for a prosperity for the middle and working classes like no other president in my lifetime (I'm 52). There is much more to do, but Trump would not give us that opportunity. In fact he would make it utterly worse. Christian Nationalists will strip us of every right we now enjoy. Fact.
I've been curious as to the jury myself. I believe two are lawyers. So I'm wondering if one of them ended up being the foreman. In which having the ability to size up the others and see if there is, a trump plant in the mix. I would truly hate to see a hung jury, after all this prep . Trump would definitely, use that as another, i told you so moment. I was totally acquitted by the jury. Even if only 1, voted not guilty.
The foreman at this time is a Scottish immigrant from what is in the news. It is generally the first person selected unless the jurors decide on someone else.
I dont get the point of the debates. Both sides are going to think they won, no matter what. There's no real fact-checking. PS no one thinks Trump is a good golfer
Yeah, the fact that Trump's fans felt like that childish display of inability to wait one's turn was a victory in the 2020 debates tells me all I need to know
There used to be substantive policy debate 2016 and prior but trumpism turned 2020 debate into a bullying/ shouting match which will be the same this year and will have 0 impact on my vote lol
@@CB38096 it's funny, the kids in grade school used to talk about fights the way Margie and her ilk talk about debates. Watch an interview with her talking about AOC. The way she talks about her being too scared to debate is almost word for word from the grade school bully script except for one word being different
So I agree in general that the debates no longer really serve the purpose they used to a decade+ ago. I'm looking at them as a better way for Biden to - remind and show people how much of a disaster Trump was/is. Too many people have forgotten how bad the Trump years were and don't think he'll really do much if he gets another 4 years. The debates offer a real way to get into those people's faces. - Tell people what all Biden has done and accomplished in his first term. Lots of people remember the COVID stimulus with Trump's dumb signature on the letter with it. Biden's accomplishments have been much quieter and less boastful. If he can accomplish those two things, and a few dunks on Trump and maybe a "would you shut up man", Biden will get his polling up.
Beautiful and amazing conversation on the importance of truth, honesty, integrity, and a free press. This conversation would never happen on the right.
Good point, Jen. I am opposed to the whole debate circus but it is probably better for Biden to take the offensive, putting trump into defense. We know trump will continue yammering about it. Wish the whole debate thing had never started! It's not a real debate anyway; it's just an unpleasant shouting match. Nobody looks good. The "winner" is whoever gets through that mess without making a huge gaffe the other side can put into a campaign ad.
While I applaud that a Trump Biden debate is going to happen, who wants to place bets that Trump actually shows up? While Trump has ‘Accepted’ the invite. He also prefaced it ‘If Biden actually shows up’ in an interview shown on BTC TH-cam channel
Biden could offer to do the debate in the Mar-a-lago ballroom, moderated by Jeanine Pirro, and simulcast on TruthSocial and OAN; and Trump would _still_ be backing out claiming the "corrupt Dems are trying to to crush my 1st amendment rights with a rigged debate." It's not gonna happen.
First of all, this is a dialogue match made in heaven. Secondly, Jen articulates the ambiguous in such a way that is both fair and compelling. She knows the inside, she knows the ramifications on the outside. That’s a sincere level of honesty and being present, which is educational and contextual to hear.
I would like you to mention over 1000 Palestinian prisoners on the West Bank. Also Netanyahu’s goal is not rescuing the Israeli hostage. Talk about the Israelis who are out protesting Netanyahu’s policies. This is important
Can the pod please speak more directly to young voters 18-35, some of whom are being myopic regarding this election. This is about saving our democracy and not one (or two) issue(s) (i.e. war in Middle East) they feel strongly about. They get carried away and don't see the big picture. It reminds me of young women voters that didn't appreciate Hillary running for POTUS or back in the day liberals who cared about the environment and voted Nader instead of Gore, so in the end they screwed their cause even more.
Do you not see that supporting genocide directly undercuts the message of "saving democracy"? All Biden needed to do was actually push back against Bibi and voters wouldn't see him as complicit in genocide. It isn't Pro Palestinian groups that will sink Biden, it's his own slave like devotion to Israel.
I really appreciated this pod for the way i felt included in a chat between two old friends. A chat that was a look into the emotions of people involved in running the world.
So I'm a New Zealander but watch everything Crooked (and more recently a bit of The Bulwark) but I commented this on a US political comedy podcast I follow: "Remember when President Nixon almost derailed the Manson trial because someone (probably a defence lawyer) brought a copy of a newspaper into the courtroom that had a massive headline saying something like "NIXON DECLARES MANSON GUILTY" and the lawyers tried to argue for a mistrial on the basis that some of the jurors (who were sequestered) may have seen the paper and if the POTUS says he's guilty, well then... How can the Speaker of The House, second in line to the Presidency, stand outside a criminal court and declare that the defendant (Trump) is innocent of all crimes he is accused of? The US is meant to be big on Separation of Powers, right? Like the Constitution and all that stuff Americans are always going on about? That is just outrageous! Nobody in the Executive or the Legislature should be commenting on an ongoing Judicial trial - it's that simple. We're not even talking about crimes committed by the President "while in Office" but rather carrying out campaign finance violations to withhold information from the public that may have affected the outcome of a Presidential election and placed the alleged criminal in the White House. I don't know who is meant to be calling these people out and warning them - that when you start infringing on the Separation of Powers you're risking placing the Government into a Constitutional Crisis - but the media should be all over this and Johnson should be facing losing his job - where's MTG when you need her?" Seriously though - is this not a pretty big deal? Politicians just shouldn't be commenting on ongoing legal cases - don't they usually use that as an excuse for why they can't comment? "It wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment on an ongoing case/investigation" etc.
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The discussion of Gaza is amazing (although not surprising). Imagine...it's complicated! Wow, who'da thunk it. But I guess you can't fit that into 240 characters or spray paint it on a wall so the loudest voices can't be troubled by such things. Sigh.
I don't think "we" should say, "he truthed, or he sent out a truth". I know with this audience, "we" don't by trump's bullsh_t. However; if someone who is undecided, or a trumpster hears these statement, they will think..., {See, I know trump is speaking the truth}, or what ever the f__k they think.
One of the BEST interviews I've seen recently. So glad I gave up my cable TV subscription and came here. Very angry with the way NY Times is covering Biden. Very angry. Trump is like red meat to a lion with mainstream media. No one attracts more ka-ching, at least not now. It's very disturbing and disgusting. I pray daily for the end of Trump.
Congratulations Tommy🍼!
Love when Jen is on Pod Save America !!!👏👍💙🇺🇸
Love Jen Psaki! Thank you for this great conversation Tommy and congratulations to your family having the new baby.
Congratulations 🎉Tommy + Mom well done
This podcast is one the most enjoyable. Thank you !
I like what I have seen with President Biden seeming to acknowledge the rules of politics he held dear, honored, and plays by have changed. No need to sink to an abysmally low level, but he needs to reach people who consume news vastly differently.
Love Psaki!
loved this conversation! Jen is so amazing because she so rarely uses filler words 😊
Openly strategizing about how "to message" the continuation of lethal aid to Israel in the midst of a genocide really underscores the deplorable nature of the political class and highlights why there is such a profound cynicism when it comes to our institutions. You folks need to do some soul searching. For the children sheltering in Gaza as US weapons rain down around them, staring down famine, there are things much more important than the coming election. I don't know how you sleep at night trivializing human suffering as if it's all just a game.
Turns out it's hard to message "pieces of children keep showing up on my feed and both parties love it, including the Democratic president"
I think it’s hard for a political class that couldn’t even admit that war crimes/ethnic cleansing happened in Iraq, to admit that ethnic cleansing is happening in Gaza.
Americans want at least a 2 state solution and do not want a war in Iran, but elites just don’t get it. Also McGurk was awful about Iraq and Gaza.
Not to be offensive, but perhaps it's about maintaining some sort of relationship with Israel so that the current order in that general region doesn't completely collapse and lead to something worse. Obviously being the ones supplying Israel weapons in these circumstances is still morally wrong though.
Okay but we live here now and what should be done? Any dramatic change in treaty responsibilities requires 2/3 Senate approval or a full Congressional mandate.
If the SCOTUS gives the okay on Presidential “immunity,” Biden can break our treaties with impunity. Until then, Constitutionally, our treaties have authority equivalent to the Constitution itself.
The Biden/Trump debate WILL NOT TAKE PLACE…
due to Trumps poor health.
So happy to see Tommy again! 💖 Congratulations to both of you on the new bab and hope everyone is doing good and getting (any) sleep 😂
It's not a clever work around. It's specifically a violation to direct someone to violate the gag order on his behalf
It’s clever because the judge can’t really prove Trump directed them to do it. I hate Trump too, but I’m fairly sure that’s what he was referencing.
@@Ayyy_its_Wally One of the reporters in the courthouse said he clearly saw Trump writing specific quotes for his groupies to say. There are montages of the post court press hearings where they just repeat the same lines ad nauseum
I met Obama in Chicago when he was a newly elected Senator. I was his personal server at a banquet held by an upscale black organization. They kept him socially busy all night long and I had to make sure he was fed when he was available so I interacted with him all night. At the end he shook my hand, thanked me, and told me I was the best server he ever had. Months later, after he announced he was running for president, I ran into him again at the UIC pavilion at the end of a Chicago Flame game. I was again working catering and was moving a cart in the elevator when a hand stopped the door from closing and in walked Michelle and the girls, two body guards and bringing up the rear, Barack hearding everyone in. When he saw me, he said, "Hey, I know you. You were my server at the University club. I said, "Yes, I was. I heard you're running for President." "I am," he said, "Any advice? "As a matter of fact I had a thought," I answered," "This needs to be the last time you are the last one in the elevator. From now on, you have to let your security bring up the rear." Michelle gave him what came to be known as a trade mark, what did I tell you look. And he smiled sheepishly and said, "duly noted."
Love this anecdote! Thank you for sharing :)
Great memory for you to enjoy forever
I'm a Democrat. I voted for Democrat Marianne Williamson. Republican Joe Biden student loan relief only allow loans under $15,0000. Most Democrats have over 50k in student loan debt
For a nation that's been making decisions on "vibes" for so long, its kinda scary that people can look at Obama and Trump and think that one is a sinister evil socialist communist whatever asinine statement they ascribe to him, and that Trump is a paragon of virtue.
Religious fundamentalism is a scary thing.
How lucky you to have met him twice, and the family.
I love it when Jen Psaki slums it and comes on the Pod.
Johnson is so concerned about his children’s moral upbringing, how do you think he explains his standing outside Trump’s trial, attacking for Trump?
occams razor would dictate that he doesnt actually care about that stuff (which seems to be a feature of devout christianity or religion in general - the more devout one is, the more following the morality of whatever religion they subscribe to is optional)
I think he explains it in the same way he explains everything, with insultingly condescending gaslighting bullshit and because they've formed their own social bubble where their common goal is the opposite of what used to be the common good. Trumpism is the antonym to the concept of the common good.
Don't pretend to actually know what these people are thinking, but thats what their actions tell me. They're not countering that narrative very effectively or seem to care about trying to, so I have to believe that these people are Machiavellian scumbags.
I ‘be always liked and respected Jen Psaki and how professional and credible she is. Listening to this interview now, I really like her even more. She is so down to earth and has a great sense of humor. Two attributes , those in the political realm could use more off. Thank you for your service to this country.
professional and credible jen Psaki ??? you call her credible,she is a liar The former White House press secretary disputed reports about Biden's conduct at a ceremony for fallen soldiers in her new book "Say More."
former White House press secretary Jen Psaki lied in her recently released book, Say More, when she disputed the claim that President Joe Biden checked his watch at a ceremony for the 13 soldiers killed during Biden’s botched Afghanistan withdrawal in 20
Psaki said that “the president looked at his watch only after the ceremony had ended. Moments later, he and the First Lady headed toward their car.” Eyewitness accounts, prior reporting, and photos prove she’s lying.
But you believe trump, serial liar, well over 30,000 lies.
The “I hear you’re free on Wednesdays” was a savage mic drop from Biden
That was odd how Biden admitted to election interference.
I was driving when I first heard it, a did a full blown Chris Tucker in Friday...
"DAAAAAYUM!!!"
Yeah, pretty good; only took him 6 cold cuts staring into the teleprompter instead of the camera to get a 17 second message done.
It simply reveals what anyone with a brain already knew, that Biden and the Democrats are using the American justice system against their political opponent. The only tool/weapon they have against Trump is this juvenile lawfare.
It's really sad 😔
@@weshoward4301 only 6? That's half the tries Trump needs to whine that he's a victim😂
Jen is a cut above. She's just so succinct and articulate.
She is a progressive Democrat. She is the only press secretary that has never lies.
Biden's White House Press Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierree lied about Democrat Marianne Williamson. Every Democrat knew she was lying
I liked the surrogates' matching outfits -- like they were going to do a dance routine
Backup models in a Robert Palmer video
Somebody should have pulled out their phone and played "YMCA." 😂
Yes. I half expected them to link arms and do a kick 🦵 line 😂
Haha, if djt says to dance.....rest assured they would have!
It’s like Trump is the manager of a boy band.
I want to sit and listen to you two talk for hours about your knowledge and experiences through the world of global politics. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and senses of humor through your conversation.
JEN!!! THE WOMAN WHO BROUGHT BACK PRESS BRIEFINGS. AND ACTING LIKE A NORMAL RESPECTABLE PRESS SECRETARY. She will always have a special place in my heart. 😂
The circle back of lies ..The former White House press secretary disputed reports about Biden's conduct at a ceremony for fallen soldiers in her new book "Say More."
former White House press secretary Jen Psaki lied in her recently released book, Say More, when she disputed the claim that President Joe Biden checked his watch at a ceremony for the 13 soldiers killed during Biden’s botched Afghanistan withdrawal in 20
Psaki said that “the president looked at his watch only after the ceremony had ended. Moments later, he and the First Lady headed toward their car.” Eyewitness accounts, prior reporting, and photos prove she’s lying.
Thanks for this. It is so great to hear smart, well informed, and articulate people talk about the real world from a VERY interesting perspective. Really enjoyable. Thanks!
Jen is great
Cheers Tommy! I nanny for a 19 month old and 1 month old! Hooray for Jen as a guest!
Still to this day I believe if Hilary, had turned around when he loomed .. and said "Back off Jabba, I'm not your Princess"! .. she would have won it all right there .. I mean someone walking over behind your podium and invading your personal space is just so offensive
or better .. is that because .. I'm not a woman?
Mike Johnson reminds me of my Mother's cat. She would gift my Mom with a deceased mouse that she proudly displayed on the back porch in front of the other pets. All the while smothering Mom with affection.
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Jen's stories about Obama and the White House are pure West Wing material
It’s giving ‘Diary of C.J.’ 😂
@@empresssk absolutely
Could listen to Jen and Tommy swap stories for hours!
This is a really good interview. Thanks, Tommy, for navigating Jen through some difficult topics.
I love that trump says, "I'm a very good golfer", when according to everything _I've_ heard, he's not even a very good _cheater,_ that is, everyone _knows_ he cheats, the pros _for sure_ know he cheats, and they all just laugh at him....😆
donald wants a circus, not a debate.
Because he's aclown.
Trump is ready for the most corrupt individual to ever "try" to run a country. You must be in a bubble.
I get why Biden’s team is going for it, but I definitely could have lived without ever seeing this rematch.
Trump is a circus!
@@Michele-zn5yiTrump isn't a clown. He's an orange turd! 😁
I love this conversation. Ya'll were so young and so close to a special time in history. Incidently, I was also hooked by that same Obama speech. At that moment, I realized I hadn't been that excited about a presidential candidate since 1960 when I was only 10. Great current thoughts and insights, too.
Two of my favorites. They are always intelligent,entertaining, and informative.
I think it is more accurate to call him "Defendant Trump" than "President trump".
Precisely!!
it's not just more accurate, it's precise. President Trump is figure from the past (only 4 years ago but still, he has not been President Trump since January 20th 2021)
Did those fools have a group text this morning to pick the exact same outfit?
Mini trumpies.
Thrilled to see you both! Congratulations on the birth of your son, Tommy and Hanna! Jen, you're tops, no matter the discussion, you are a staunch defender of truth. Love my PSA
Seems like Israel is running a recruiting campaign for hamas
I wish everyone would acknowledge the evidence that shows this isn't just an Israeli government issue. It's systemic. We will have failed if we don't place consequences as we did for South Africa.
I remain disappointed that PSA still unconsciously place Israeli at a higher status than everyone else. It's all about them or done to them, never what they did to get here.
Seems like the communists have overtaken our higher education system.
@@oohhboy-funhouseexactly. for supposed progressives, they sure do sound a lot like Morning Joe and even Fox News when it comes to Israel.
@@dazenguile4215guaranteed that both of them have taken plenty of AIPAC money
BIG HOUSE not the Whitehouse! DEBATE!! Go JOE!!
82,410,438 Democrats voted for Democrat Marianne Williamson. Democrat Marianne Williamson won the popular vote by 8,428,808 more votes than Republican Joe Biden. Democrat Marianne Williamson won 232 eletoral college votes. 73,981,630 Republicans voted for Republican Joe Biden. Republican Joe Biden won 306 eletoral college votes.
Congratulations Tommy! 💃🏾💃🏾
Tommy and Hannah have been busy and we are here for them.
Love your discussion Thanks You are so inspiring . Give me faith in younger folks
25:42 by “antisemitism”, she of course means criticism of israel’s genocide.
The Mike Johnson cameo is sad. You are literally a plane crash from the presidency and you stoop to this? I mean what’s wrong with you?
Please stop calling them "truths" Holy f--k.
What do you mean it’s a “clever work-around” of the gag order?! It’s not clever, and the order specifically says addresses this scenario, prohibit Trump from using others to violate the gag order.
The difficulty is in proving that Trump specifically directed these statements. It’s kinda hilarious that Mike J very obviously read off his statement from a note we could all see was written in Sharpie. 😂 That’s some peak multi-directional plausible deniability.
Imo Mike J is the VP pick. That would be really awful because he’s clever, devious, and extremely electable.
50 years of experience impresses me enough to vote for President Biden again. GO JOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏! 😎😎😎
Love our President Biden 💙
What experience? Buden never held a job outside of government in his life!
@@imperialmotoring3789 If you actually dug a little deeper, you might have found out, there was a short career as a lawyer between 1968 and 1972.
Law Clerk, public defender,, lawyer in a bigger firm and own small law firm.
@@imperialmotoring3789huh? he was a lawyer though… also, he’s applying for a job in government, so experience in government is all he needs.
@@imperialmotoring3789do you tell the truth much. He was a. Lifeguard an attorney single father and all around good guy. He worked 2 jobs to get by, unlike Mr born with a silver spoon up his butt given millions from daddy which he quickly flushed down a gold toilet with 6 separate bankruptcies.
Jen Psaki - you are phenomenal!
Congrats on the baby, Tommy!!! Great to see you, Psaki… congrats on the new book!
I could listen to 50 hours of this conversation. Jen is the best, so interesting and insightful.
I love how it took all these people 5+ weeks to show up in support of trump.
It just shows they are reading the stories about how his family doesnt show up for him, this was their answer to that. 🤔
Two Australian moderators are needed, as they are actually professional journalists: who know how to moderate and ask proper follow ups, and will not stand for any BS. Sarah Ferguson (from Australia's ABC - who interviewed Sidney Powell to great effect) and Axios' Jonathan Swan. They'll be just as demanding of Biden as of Trump, thereby putting them in stark contrast. US corporate journalists will not do it, except, perhaps Chris Hayes and Lawrence O'Donnell, but they'd be seen by Trump as "partisan".
Orange Hitler is just an unhinged brat, so no amount of moderation will keep the debate on track.
I agree with this. I've watched a decent amount of Australian news and they completely blow away the media in our own country.
It just comes off as so much more honest reporting.
Amazing interview! Thanks for sharing your experiences from a time that seems so long ago.
The first time I remember seeing Jen Psaki is when she was introduced as Joe Biden's Press Secretary. I thought at the time (and still think) she was the best Press Secretary I've ever seen in my lifetime. Her clarity and command of the podium is spot on. I've had over 50 years experience in communications in various positions including news reporting. I don't usually share a compliment like this, but I mean what I say. She's good. I'm humbled by her excellence and professionalism.
Jen we love you! You’re awesome! VOTE BLUE💙💙💙
I love these two people. This is a good combo.
Donald trump and his ridiculous emotional support lackeys
Hey, at the end of your pod, you say you've gone way too long. I'm gonna disagree. I wanted more. I love Jen Psaki and all the insight and stories about working in various administrations and yada yada. But, that's the sign of good showmanship. Always leave them wanting more. Please bring her back. She's amazing.
Congratulations to you and your family Tommy!!
I'm surprised by the "even handed analyses" of Netanyahu from Jen Psaki and Tom. I would have been absolutely LIVID if my liberal boss got talked down to by a rightwinger in his own [Oval] office as POTUS Obama had to endure. Israel and America deserved to have had a pleasant conversation between POTUS Obama and someone like Prime Minister Golda Meir, but no. People like Bibi are why we can't good things!
He can’t interrupt and he doesn’t have an audience. So…he has to answer questions…Trump has no depth on any topic. And, because of his dumb “truths” we pretty much know everything he has to say. “I’ll do it better” with no actual insight on how he would do anything. He literally fell for Team Biden’s trap.
Trump bringing on his own little support dogs to circumvent the gag orders.
I LOVE President Biden's debate ad!!! Dark Brandon-y! ❤️🤍🩵
Lindsay Graham knows better than to question the election, but he’s sooo weak he just goes along to get along.
It is ok to question in the courts, legally. That's not what the Repubs are doing now, they lost all the legal cases.
Exciting and interesting conversation, so smart and authentic. What did we do to deserve something like Trump?
Re: Iz-Pal messaging for Biden:
"Terrorism is unacceptable, but so is genocide"
Call it what it is.
That's not just good politics, it's world changing speech, if it comes from the president of the United States.
While the situation is overwhelmingly complex, it is inarguable that the IDF is flagrantly committing war crimes in reaction to Hamas terrorism, and both parties should by any rights be held to account with prudent efficacy.
If Biden aims accountability at the IDF and Hamas evenly, while championing both the Israeli and Palestinian people, he will not only win the debate and gain massive popular support on both sides, but he'll have a blast-proof position from which to bring renewed leadership to international peacekeeping efforts.
The optics of shirking this obvious solution are ominous at best.
Go Joe. We don't have to like everything -- and we won't -- but Biden laid the groundwork for a prosperity for the middle and working classes like no other president in my lifetime (I'm 52). There is much more to do, but Trump would not give us that opportunity. In fact he would make it utterly worse. Christian Nationalists will strip us of every right we now enjoy. Fact.
I've been curious as to the jury myself. I believe two are lawyers. So I'm wondering if one of them ended up being the foreman. In which having the ability to size up the others and see if there is, a trump plant in the mix. I would truly hate to see a hung jury, after all this prep . Trump would definitely, use that as another, i told you so moment. I was totally acquitted by the jury. Even if only 1, voted not guilty.
The foreman at this time is a Scottish immigrant from what is in the news. It is generally the first person selected unless the jurors decide on someone else.
I dont get the point of the debates. Both sides are going to think they won, no matter what. There's no real fact-checking. PS no one thinks Trump is a good golfer
Yeah, the fact that Trump's fans felt like that childish display of inability to wait one's turn was a victory in the 2020 debates tells me all I need to know
There used to be substantive policy debate 2016 and prior but trumpism turned 2020 debate into a bullying/ shouting match which will be the same this year and will have 0 impact on my vote lol
@@CB38096 it's funny, the kids in grade school used to talk about fights the way Margie and her ilk talk about debates. Watch an interview with her talking about AOC. The way she talks about her being too scared to debate is almost word for word from the grade school bully script except for one word being different
So I agree in general that the debates no longer really serve the purpose they used to a decade+ ago.
I'm looking at them as a better way for Biden to
- remind and show people how much of a disaster Trump was/is.
Too many people have forgotten how bad the Trump years were and don't think he'll really do much if he gets another 4 years. The debates offer a real way to get into those people's faces.
- Tell people what all Biden has done and accomplished in his first term.
Lots of people remember the COVID stimulus with Trump's dumb signature on the letter with it. Biden's accomplishments have been much quieter and less boastful.
If he can accomplish those two things, and a few dunks on Trump and maybe a "would you shut up man", Biden will get his polling up.
Beautiful and amazing conversation on the importance of truth, honesty, integrity, and a free press. This conversation would never happen on the right.
You got that correct. Conversations on the Right always seem to pander to prejudices and grievances, without any noble advocacy for civic duty.
It's gonna be like the mumbling geriatric South Park pope debates the mumbling geriatric South Park Rod Stewart. Only worse and more boring.
All the personal stories about Biden are truly heartwarming and what a genuinely good human he is.
Good point, Jen. I am opposed to the whole debate circus but it is probably better for Biden to take the offensive, putting trump into defense. We know trump will continue yammering about it. Wish the whole debate thing had never started! It's not a real debate anyway; it's just an unpleasant shouting match. Nobody looks good. The "winner" is whoever gets through that mess without making a huge gaffe the other side can put into a campaign ad.
While I applaud that a Trump Biden debate is going to happen, who wants to place bets that Trump actually shows up?
While Trump has ‘Accepted’ the invite. He also prefaced it ‘If Biden actually shows up’ in an interview shown on BTC TH-cam channel
Biden could offer to do the debate in the Mar-a-lago ballroom, moderated by Jeanine Pirro, and simulcast on TruthSocial and OAN; and Trump would _still_ be backing out claiming the "corrupt Dems are trying to to crush my 1st amendment rights with a rigged debate."
It's not gonna happen.
He“ll claim that he’s under a gag order and can’t respond to anything 😂😂…
@rtyler....he also said he is a good golfer 😂 !!!! He is NOT!!! ONLY o 8:36 n his own course....where they mercilessly let him cheat!!!😂
First of all, this is a dialogue match made in heaven.
Secondly, Jen articulates the ambiguous in such a way that is both fair and compelling. She knows the inside, she knows the ramifications on the outside.
That’s a sincere level of honesty and being present, which is educational and contextual to hear.
An she spells Jen correctly (speaking as one myself). 👍🍿
i could honestly hear you two talk for hours
Trump cheats at golf ALL the time - everyone who plays him says so, there are a multitude of videos.
He can't really cheat during a debate.
I agree with Jen. I felt Biden was trying to get the civilians some help. He was saying we're not helping but let us take care of this first
Trump will come up with some dumb reason and will cowardly back out , Trump is terrified of any debates
EVERYBODY KNOWS donald cheats at golf.
Well, we found out whether debates matter.
NGL, I love Jen Psaki's insights. I think I'm going to buy her book.
I'm so happy for Tommy and his family.
It’s he best
Hey , you guys Need To Remember:
Trump requires loyalty. What do you suppose he made Ms. Cannon do before he appointed her?
A loyalty pledge maybe???
Imo we’re going to confirm someday that Trump’s actual business has been setting up and holding _Kompromat_ for half of DC.
I would like you to mention over 1000 Palestinian prisoners on the West Bank. Also Netanyahu’s goal is not rescuing the Israeli hostage. Talk about the Israelis who are out protesting Netanyahu’s policies. This is important
Such an interesting discussion about insiders’ real lives!
Great show! Nice to hear a conversation that is so positive and not all about Trump.
. . . Love! Love! I absolutely Love this, fun, entertaining and extremely informative. Thank you! . . .
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Can the pod please speak more directly to young voters 18-35, some of whom are being myopic regarding this election. This is about saving our democracy and not one (or two) issue(s) (i.e. war in Middle East) they feel strongly about. They get carried away and don't see the big picture. It reminds me of young women voters that didn't appreciate Hillary running for POTUS or back in the day liberals who cared about the environment and voted Nader instead of Gore, so in the end they screwed their cause even more.
Do you not see that supporting genocide directly undercuts the message of "saving democracy"? All Biden needed to do was actually push back against Bibi and voters wouldn't see him as complicit in genocide. It isn't Pro Palestinian groups that will sink Biden, it's his own slave like devotion to Israel.
Awesome interview :)
Hot Psaki! ❤🙌🏼👏🏻
I really appreciated this pod for the way i felt included in a chat between two old friends. A chat that was a look into the emotions of people involved in running the world.
Good to see you back. By far my favorite Pod Save America / Congrats on your newest addition to your family.!!
What we need is cameras in the courtrooms. If all the evidence is available for people to see for themselves, maybe they would wake up.
Agreed 100%, this is a presidential candidate. America needed to see this.
Biden should not debate on FOX.
The team at Fox that usually handles debates isn’t terrible. And if Biden does well in spite of a hostile moderator, that looks even better.
I like that Psaki’s book is in frame with Tommy and the Pod book is in frame with Jen.
They should have Jon Stewart as they monitor
So I'm a New Zealander but watch everything Crooked (and more recently a bit of The Bulwark) but I commented this on a US political comedy podcast I follow:
"Remember when President Nixon almost derailed the Manson trial because someone (probably a defence lawyer) brought a copy of a newspaper into the courtroom that had a massive headline saying something like "NIXON DECLARES MANSON GUILTY" and the lawyers tried to argue for a mistrial on the basis that some of the jurors (who were sequestered) may have seen the paper and if the POTUS says he's guilty, well then...
How can the Speaker of The House, second in line to the Presidency, stand outside a criminal court and declare that the defendant (Trump) is innocent of all crimes he is accused of?
The US is meant to be big on Separation of Powers, right? Like the Constitution and all that stuff Americans are always going on about? That is just outrageous! Nobody in the Executive or the Legislature should be commenting on an ongoing Judicial trial - it's that simple.
We're not even talking about crimes committed by the President "while in Office" but rather carrying out campaign finance violations to withhold information from the public that may have affected the outcome of a Presidential election and placed the alleged criminal in the White House.
I don't know who is meant to be calling these people out and warning them - that when you start infringing on the Separation of Powers you're risking placing the Government into a Constitutional Crisis - but the media should be all over this and Johnson should be facing losing his job - where's MTG when you need her?"
Seriously though - is this not a pretty big deal? Politicians just shouldn't be commenting on ongoing legal cases - don't they usually use that as an excuse for why they can't comment? "It wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment on an ongoing case/investigation" etc.
In GA there is a primary statewide race this Tuesday May 21. If you know anyone in GA REACH OUT AND TELL THEM TO VOTE! Not enough people vote in state election primaries and we need more voter participation!
The hypocrisy is overwhelming
The discussion of Gaza is amazing (although not surprising). Imagine...it's complicated! Wow, who'da thunk it. But I guess you can't fit that into 240 characters or spray paint it on a wall so the loudest voices can't be troubled by such things. Sigh.
I don't think "we" should say, "he truthed, or he sent out a truth". I know with this audience, "we" don't by trump's bullsh_t. However; if someone who is undecided, or a trumpster hears these statement, they will think..., {See, I know trump is speaking the truth}, or what ever the f__k they think.
One of the BEST interviews I've seen recently. So glad I gave up my cable TV subscription and came here. Very angry with the way NY Times is covering Biden. Very angry. Trump is like red meat to a lion with mainstream media. No one attracts more ka-ching, at least not now. It's very disturbing and disgusting. I pray daily for the end of Trump.