I completely followed every word and you gave excellent instructions. I have watched every available video on the Pierce dump kit. Your video was one of the most thorough. My '96 F250 4x4 will soon have a dump kit installed and you helped me more than you ever will know. I am a Vietnam Era Veteran and my truck is my one sinful guilty pleasure. I built, rebuilt, restored and refurbished the entire truck from front to back. I intermittently know every last nut, bolt and screw. It is a work of art and a rolling sculpture. She deserves a dump bed and she is going to get one. THANK YOU !!!!
Thank you, glad to hear the vid was able to help!! I have since retrofitted this kit onto a trailer I made out of a 78' C20. That vid is on my channel as well "Homemade 2 ton Dump Trailer"
You got to watch so box don't come down on a big dump truck guy had box up came down and cut him into so be safe and block where hinged at back a few ideas I been in business trucking dump truck owner for 55 years retired posting my opinions and you know what they say about them have a good day you all 17:40
**UPDATE** I have since taken this OFF my very expensive truck :) After having a heavy load of wet dirt in my bed the lift started to lift the Belly of my bed but couldn't lift the load...this then about buckled my bed floor. The DUMP KIT is rated to lift 4,000 lb...your truck bed floor is Not. Due to the design of truck bed they only have cross supports, the only length ways support comes from the ribs of the bed floor itself...so not completely the kits fault but still. I will be making a dump bed out of a 78' C20 8' bed. I plan to weld up a steel frame to mount this kit on and then put that under the bed, that will make a nice sturdy dump bed and worse case scenario i fold that bed i can put any junkyard 8' bed on.
I removed the factory braces on the bed and built a full frame .I posted a short video of it. you can see what I did on it. I have since sand blasted the frame and all and rust proofed and coated
Saw that coming a mile off. The bed has all those supports for a reason. Also, drilling your frame/chassis is a huge DON'T, if it was ok to have a hole there then it would already be there.
That's a fantastic review of this kit. I just purchased this kit from Pierce and will install this in the next following weeks. I'm pretty sure this review will help me. Thanks!!!
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. We have very similar trucks. I'm on the fence with doing this. I have already had my bed off twice to service the fuel pump and various lines. I now have ANOTHER problem with my sending unit, so I thought about this kit. Besides, how cool to have a dump bed!!!
I don't know about dumping but hauling material a half ton could haul one ton.a 3/4ton could haul 2ton that's what I put on them at the sand and gravel company I just always asked them if they checked the air in there tires many said yes put material on tires go down lucky we had a compressor at the business so if you hauling something only takes a minute to check air pressure in tires save a lot of headaches in the long run now if you have overload springs then that's up to you but don't push it be safe than sorry better to make another load than be broke down 2:25
Great video my man. Very detailed and much better than the video the manufacturer has. Mines almost done, deciding what to do about the bumper and hitch..... if I find a better way to do it I'll come back and explain in the comments.
There was a video of a company that inverted the bumper and basically hollowed it out and also knotched out around the receiver. A lot more work but the only way I can see to have the bumper on and not in the way while still having the receiver mounted in stock location... This allowed the bed to tilt with the tailgate down and not hit the bumper at all.
Try some nylon washers on that ram pin to help keep the bed center. they will provide a smoother wear and tear. They make all kinds and shapes of nylon hardware. Nylon is tuff and won’t rust.
I would rather go with a dump insert it might be slightly more expensive and weigh more but it's way more heavy duty then the bed of a truck. I don't have to weld supports on my bed. If my truck breaks I just put the insert in a different truck. They can usually lift more weight. They can also hold more material like mulch which doesn't weigh near as much as say rock. This kit still makes it easier then doing it by hand though. Good stuff!
After pump location absolute biggest issue you will have is figuring out what to do with your bumper if you keep your receiver on the truck. I have yet to trim out my bumper so the bed tilts without interfering with hitch receiver so for now receiver is off the truck.
Very smart. Mechanical assemblies need to be used. The homemade bracket needs sand blasted and powder coated though... 🤔🙂 but.... who doesn’t pull with a truck? A truck is for hauling and pulling. I personally tried to pull the hinges off of hell, so pulling is a necessity. 🤪
That was great. I’m looking to get a truck for my contracting work. Using the truck bed for tools. Though when not hauling tools, I have many loads to the dump, and some (light duty) up to 1yrd gravel loads, I’m hoping an F150 will do the trick with an added dump kit. Thanks for that great video!
They did put me on a conference call with an engineer for me to explain all the issues and how I resolved them. I didn't think I could possibly have been the first person to put this on a Superduty but I guess I was? lol
I'm actually interested in this kit for a future upgrade. Looking at getting a f250 possibly soon and would love to get this kit, can't decide between this kit and the dump insert
I just installed this kit on my 1990 Chevy K2500. I also don’t like the wire cable support, and I plan to install a square tube support like you did. The challenge is designing it to clear the rear differential if/when the frame drops down low enough for the bumpers to hit the diff. Does your rear diff hit that bar when your suspension is maxed out?
No but if you do crazy off roading which I don't recommend with a dump bed kit installed anyway you could simply move that support forward or backward of that rear diff. a bit more.
$1700 isn't to bad, I see you made an update removed it. Sounds great with the customer support. Love to just find the scissor piece, with cylinder, pump. Make it simple to use on any type of bed, vehicle, trailer. Did you mount it on another vehicle?
13:00 i cover the bumper... You're essentially welding the bumper brackets to the blue swivel brackets of the lift kit. By doing this though you will not be able to have a hitch receiver on your truck as the bumper interferes with and would hit it.
Ok.. I have dump trailers and use them daily so I want to see this out in the field working. Now we all know the ground is never level at the landfill, so I want to see this performing on a hillside on uneven ground. Does the bed have alot of twist when loaded 3-4k lbs ? For some reason I truly believe it would have alot of twist in it and would not work properly..
you're right on, to a degree. This will flex more than an actual dump trailer as no pickup bed is going to be as solid or rigid as a dump trailer. If your load is uneven, which you should obviously try to avoid, then yes the bed would twist...a lot. Now where this kit it is very capable of it's rated capacity your pickup bed is NOT rated for 2 ton. I about buckled the bed on my Super Duty with a HUGE load of rain soaked dirt and so have since taken this kit off my truck. As far as a hill, no dump bed, dump trailer or even dump truck should ever be used on any degree of slope or uneven terrain as it's extremely dangerous and so that comparison is irrelevant in my opinion.
If you weld the bumper brackets to the pivot points of the bed it's just as strong as a regular bumper but I would not tow with it. Again, it does interfere with your receiver hitch though which seems to be a big holdup of this entire kit.
Thank you for the video. I had a question someone here may know. I have a gooseneck hitch and would love to have the ability to use both the hitch and this dump system. Do you think there’s a way they can both be installed and not interfere with each other
Deleted my previous comment I remember now lol. My truck had the gooseneck/5th wheel prep pack and that had to come off as the lifting cylinder assembly bolts there and so they interfere with each other. There's no way to Install the dump bed kit with 5th wheels or goosenecks.
@@rednecktech82 that’s what I’m thinking just looking at this install. Sure would be nice if both could fit under there though. Would make a great all around truck
I run a small landscaping business and was thinking about this over a dump insert. Is there any concerns to structure damage of the truck using this constantly over a dump insert?
No long term concerns you just have to be careful that you absolutely do not exceed the weight capacity because once I did like I said it started lifting up the belly of my bed and almost folded my bed in half but if you are just doing light material it's absolutely a better option over a dump insert that is 800 extra pounds in the back of your truck everywhere you go and cost twice as much.
Sorry for the massively late reply but no I had no issues other than the hydraulic assembly bouncing around making a ton of noise, that's why I fabricated that bracket and then applied a rubber piece on the bracket to silence any slight movement.
I recorded my install but it ended up being more me complaining of all the shortcomings of the kit. They really dropped the ball on the 1 yard line here. You WILL need to do some fabricating, welding and have some basic common sense. This is far from a bolt on kit out of the box. Number one complain is bumper...you either lose your tow receiver or have to get creative with making a custom bumper...dump bed MAY clear bumper if you removed your tailgate every single time you wanted to use it?
No one should ever get under a raised bed without taking safety precautions that insure the bed does not kill you. Even if, and especially if, the bed is empty! Ask any dump truck driver .... that has a brain.
agreed, I put a 4x4 under the bed while working on it. Dump drivers biggest issues are loads STICKING to the bed...then once raised it throws off the trucks center of gravity and topples them.
It won't lift 4000lbs. The scissors wouldn't bolt dead on center and that said it would lessen the lift weight. The most I got to lift was around 3000lbs which includes the bed. 1 ton truck, I got about 1.5ton on gravel and it would not lift :( 2500 was OK.
I would agree with that, so far none of my lifts have been scale weighed for accuracy and I had a load on the other day this would not lift. I had to scrape some off before it would lift it.
i just dont see why anyone would do this. those little pick ups cant hold weight and those beds are tin foil plastic garbage. i hate normal pick ups. mason dumps are where its at.
I think it would nice deal take tail gate off truck if you can for realy nice dump and go spread called tailgating this way tailgate gate not close to ground
I completely followed every word and you gave excellent instructions. I have watched every available video on the Pierce dump kit. Your video was one of the most thorough. My '96 F250 4x4 will soon have a dump kit installed and you helped me more than you ever will know. I am a Vietnam Era Veteran and my truck is my one sinful guilty pleasure. I built, rebuilt, restored and refurbished the entire truck from front to back. I intermittently know every last nut, bolt and screw. It is a work of art and a rolling sculpture. She deserves a dump bed and she is going to get one. THANK YOU !!!!
Thank you, glad to hear the vid was able to help!! I have since retrofitted this kit onto a trailer I made out of a 78' C20. That vid is on my channel as well "Homemade 2 ton Dump Trailer"
Robert, how did it work out for you? I have a 96 F250 and am looking to do this
Best 17 minutes and 40 seconds I have spent on this subject. I want to do this on my F350 and this has been easily the best video on this. Thank you.
Thank you!
Just the thought of how easy it will be to work under the truck bed , to clean your truck and make sure it doesn’t get rusty . Love this kit
Need a tilt-cab kit next!
You got to watch so box don't come down on a big dump truck guy had box up came down and cut him into so be safe and block where hinged at back a few ideas I been in business trucking dump truck owner for 55 years retired posting my opinions and you know what they say about them have a good day you all 17:40
**UPDATE** I have since taken this OFF my very expensive truck :) After having a heavy load of wet dirt in my bed the lift started to lift the Belly of my bed but couldn't lift the load...this then about buckled my bed floor. The DUMP KIT is rated to lift 4,000 lb...your truck bed floor is Not. Due to the design of truck bed they only have cross supports, the only length ways support comes from the ribs of the bed floor itself...so not completely the kits fault but still. I will be making a dump bed out of a 78' C20 8' bed. I plan to weld up a steel frame to mount this kit on and then put that under the bed, that will make a nice sturdy dump bed and worse case scenario i fold that bed i can put any junkyard 8' bed on.
I removed the factory braces on the bed and built a full frame .I posted a short video of it. you can see what I did on it. I have since sand blasted the frame and all and rust proofed and coated
I’m living in Ca. Do you know where can I order a kit? any website?
Time to BEEF UP your pickup bed, or replace it with a trailer box as your pickup bed.
Saw that coming a mile off.
The bed has all those supports for a reason. Also, drilling your frame/chassis is a huge DON'T, if it was ok to have a hole there then it would already be there.
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best how video on this dump box kit , no bull and all the info you need , thanks man for keeping it real
it only took me 30 sec. to hit the like n sub , KEEP-ON KEEPIN-ON 808 gone
Thank you, much appreciated!
That's a fantastic review of this kit. I just purchased this kit from Pierce and will install this in the next following weeks. I'm pretty sure this review will help me. Thanks!!!
Thank you, appreciate the feedback!
In order to keep my bed straight I welded metal pieces off the v channel in a 45 degree angle and that shoved the bed into place each time.
Nice video, this should be standard option.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. We have very similar trucks. I'm on the fence with doing this. I have already had my bed off twice to service the fuel pump and various lines. I now have ANOTHER problem with my sending unit, so I thought about this kit. Besides, how cool to have a dump bed!!!
Yeah it's almost worth it just to be able to lift up your bed effortlessly every so often and undercoat the frame and bed and things.
Super video, excellent. Looks like you're in an area like here in Missouri where we haul lots of gravel into our places regularly. Thanks so much!
RT, this is very informative, thanks for the post.
I don't know about dumping but hauling material a half ton could haul one ton.a 3/4ton could haul 2ton that's what I put on them at the sand and gravel company I just always asked them if they checked the air in there tires many said yes put material on tires go down lucky we had a compressor at the business so if you hauling something only takes a minute to check air pressure in tires save a lot of headaches in the long run now if you have overload springs then that's up to you but don't push it be safe than sorry better to make another load than be broke down 2:25
Great video my man. Very detailed and much better than the video the manufacturer has. Mines almost done, deciding what to do about the bumper and hitch..... if I find a better way to do it I'll come back and explain in the comments.
There was a video of a company that inverted the bumper and basically hollowed it out and also knotched out around the receiver. A lot more work but the only way I can see to have the bumper on and not in the way while still having the receiver mounted in stock location... This allowed the bed to tilt with the tailgate down and not hit the bumper at all.
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to provide such detailed information and sharing your experience/expertise. 👍
Try some nylon washers on that ram pin to help keep the bed center. they will provide a smoother wear and tear. They make all kinds and shapes of nylon hardware. Nylon is tuff and won’t rust.
I appreciate you doing this video. I'm looking at getting this kit for my 2011 F250.
I would rather go with a dump insert it might be slightly more expensive and weigh more but it's way more heavy duty then the bed of a truck. I don't have to weld supports on my bed. If my truck breaks I just put the insert in a different truck. They can usually lift more weight. They can also hold more material like mulch which doesn't weigh near as much as say rock. This kit still makes it easier then doing it by hand though. Good stuff!
Also forgot to mention, this kit may void the warranty to the truck since it is modifying it. For some people this is a big issue.
I gotta agree with you I been thinking about one of these much cheaper than a dump trailer
After pump location absolute biggest issue you will have is figuring out what to do with your bumper if you keep your receiver on the truck. I have yet to trim out my bumper so the bed tilts without interfering with hitch receiver so for now receiver is off the truck.
Ah I didn't even think of that
thanks alot for the video it looks about as very simple other than messing with the bumper
Very smart. Mechanical assemblies need to be used. The homemade bracket needs sand blasted and powder coated though... 🤔🙂 but.... who doesn’t pull with a truck? A truck is for hauling and pulling. I personally tried to pull the hinges off of hell, so pulling is a necessity. 🤪
That was great. I’m looking to get a truck for my contracting work. Using the truck bed for tools. Though when not hauling tools, I have many loads to the dump, and some (light duty) up to 1yrd gravel loads, I’m hoping an F150 will do the trick with an added dump kit. Thanks for that great video!
Very nice job, they should hire you to do the work.
They did put me on a conference call with an engineer for me to explain all the issues and how I resolved them. I didn't think I could possibly have been the first person to put this on a Superduty but I guess I was? lol
Good job, appreciate the insight and fixes 😉👍
I'm actually interested in this kit for a future upgrade. Looking at getting a f250 possibly soon and would love to get this kit, can't decide between this kit and the dump insert
I just installed this kit on my 1990 Chevy K2500. I also don’t like the wire cable support, and I plan to install a square tube support like you did. The challenge is designing it to clear the rear differential if/when the frame drops down low enough for the bumpers to hit the diff. Does your rear diff hit that bar when your suspension is maxed out?
No but if you do crazy off roading which I don't recommend with a dump bed kit installed anyway you could simply move that support forward or backward of that rear diff. a bit more.
Great video 👍👍
Loving it more on my old square body trailer I made. Vid on that build too...it's Pierce dump bed kit 2.0 lol
$1700 isn't to bad, I see you made an update removed it. Sounds great with the customer support. Love to just find the scissor piece, with cylinder, pump. Make it simple to use on any type of bed, vehicle, trailer. Did you mount it on another vehicle?
Currently working on putting this kit on a 78' Chevy 3/4 ton pickup bed...i cut truck in half to make a dump trailer...truck as whole was junk.
This video was awesome and very informative! Thank you!
I would like info on relocating the bumper I like how the bumper moved with the lift so the tailgate was still usable with the kit
13:00 i cover the bumper... You're essentially welding the bumper brackets to the blue swivel brackets of the lift kit. By doing this though you will not be able to have a hitch receiver on your truck as the bumper interferes with and would hit it.
grease all hinges and other pivot areas ~ lucas red lithium / spray.. also clean under bed spray under bed all metal areas and bolts with zinc
Very nice change in you truck you make happen all
Ok.. I have dump trailers and use them daily so I want to see this out in the field working. Now we all know the ground is never level at the landfill, so I want to see this performing on a hillside on uneven ground. Does the bed have alot of twist when loaded 3-4k lbs ? For some reason I truly believe it would have alot of twist in it and would not work properly..
you're right on, to a degree. This will flex more than an actual dump trailer as no pickup bed is going to be as solid or rigid as a dump trailer. If your load is uneven, which you should obviously try to avoid, then yes the bed would twist...a lot. Now where this kit it is very capable of it's rated capacity your pickup bed is NOT rated for 2 ton. I about buckled the bed on my Super Duty with a HUGE load of rain soaked dirt and so have since taken this kit off my truck. As far as a hill, no dump bed, dump trailer or even dump truck should ever be used on any degree of slope or uneven terrain as it's extremely dangerous and so that comparison is irrelevant in my opinion.
thank you for share your experience. i would do this.
Cool review/video.. Im planning on making my F150 a "stealth dump truck"
Thanks for the review!
I really need to do 2 tons or more.
You should of watched trucks Stacy David showed how to do this on a Chevy truck n they covered all the questions and problems you had ...
What kind of kit I need I have a 97 ford ranger thank you and good video
How strong is the bumper after reattaching it in the new spot
If you weld the bumper brackets to the pivot points of the bed it's just as strong as a regular bumper but I would not tow with it. Again, it does interfere with your receiver hitch though which seems to be a big holdup of this entire kit.
are there any installers for hire? near Virginia? I want one but I don't think I'm capable
Very nice and informative video
I'm planning on getting a 2 ton ram and pump, and fabricating the rest.
Did the project go well? What were some of the issues you encountered
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I am just disappointed that there are no zerk fittings on any of the pivot points. That does not make sense.
Is there no way to mount the pump if you still have the stuff that was removed in this video? Unfortunately I need to keep that stuff in my county.
On the outside of the frame in front of leaf spring shackle is one possible alternative.
Thank you for the video. I had a question someone here may know. I have a gooseneck hitch and would love to have the ability to use both the hitch and this dump system. Do you think there’s a way they can both be installed and not interfere with each other
Deleted my previous comment I remember now lol. My truck had the gooseneck/5th wheel prep pack and that had to come off as the lifting cylinder assembly bolts there and so they interfere with each other. There's no way to Install the dump bed kit with 5th wheels or goosenecks.
@@rednecktech82 that’s what I’m thinking just looking at this install. Sure would be nice if both could fit under there though. Would make a great all around truck
I run a small landscaping business and was thinking about this over a dump insert. Is there any concerns to structure damage of the truck using this constantly over a dump insert?
No long term concerns you just have to be careful that you absolutely do not exceed the weight capacity because once I did like I said it started lifting up the belly of my bed and almost folded my bed in half but if you are just doing light material it's absolutely a better option over a dump insert that is 800 extra pounds in the back of your truck everywhere you go and cost twice as much.
I was thinking about one of these myself. Any issues with rattles, sqeaks or the bed fluttering around while driving?
Sorry for the massively late reply but no I had no issues other than the hydraulic assembly bouncing around making a ton of noise, that's why I fabricated that bracket and then applied a rubber piece on the bracket to silence any slight movement.
wow very informative thankyou
I wonder if you can still pull a gooseneck trailer with this???????
No, this kit is in the way...you wouldn't have the room under the bed to mount the gooseneck, 5th wheel or any other kind of hitch.
You can do it but you need to fabricate a bracket with locks to do that. We did it on our f 350 Dolly.
Thx for the video bro!
Thanks for the info I love doing it 😊
Excuse me, do You sell this device? Or how can I get one of this? How much does ir cost to send it to México.
You can order these kits from PierceArrow in Texas. They make them. It's free shipping to the US but they can make arrangements to ship to Mex. I bet.
I'll give you 500 to do mine! Thanks for a great video.
do you have the installation video ?
I recorded my install but it ended up being more me complaining of all the shortcomings of the kit. They really dropped the ball on the 1 yard line here. You WILL need to do some fabricating, welding and have some basic common sense. This is far from a bolt on kit out of the box. Number one complain is bumper...you either lose your tow receiver or have to get creative with making a custom bumper...dump bed MAY clear bumper if you removed your tailgate every single time you wanted to use it?
DC12V power unit supply the power.
Can you add that kit on any pick up truck
just about any full size truck but you need to look up the specific kit for your truck...kits do have variances.
Where do I go to have this installed on F250 ?
you'd have to find a local garage that would be willing to do it. Most people install themselves like I did.
thorough
Cani do this to my 1500 2000 Chevy
Yes they should have a kit for your truck just check their website.
No one should ever get under a raised bed without taking safety precautions that insure the bed does not kill you. Even if, and especially if, the bed is empty! Ask any dump truck driver .... that has a brain.
agreed, I put a 4x4 under the bed while working on it. Dump drivers biggest issues are loads STICKING to the bed...then once raised it throws off the trucks center of gravity and topples them.
It won't lift 4000lbs. The scissors wouldn't bolt dead on center and that said it would lessen the lift weight. The most I got to lift was around 3000lbs which includes the bed. 1 ton truck, I got about 1.5ton on gravel and it would not lift :( 2500 was OK.
I would agree with that, so far none of my lifts have been scale weighed for accuracy and I had a load on the other day this would not lift. I had to scrape some off before it would lift it.
Dame número
These kits are best fitted by engineering shops, otherwise you will have these same problems as this badly engineered setup.
far to much money and way to much work
i just dont see why anyone would do this. those little pick ups cant hold weight and those beds are tin foil plastic garbage. i hate normal pick ups. mason dumps are where its at.
I think it would nice deal take tail gate off truck if you can for realy nice dump and go spread called tailgating this way tailgate gate not close to ground