Hi Nic.. after watching your video about Ton I decided to make a trip to Thailand and visit Ton.. I have to say I was quite impressed with his work ethics and quality of timber used... tried out many of the cues (Beyond series) in his workshop and was quite impressed with the performance of the cues. Mine should arrive within the next week or so (Beyond series). Prices are very reasonable considering some of the other so called top cue makers charge probably 3 times the amount for similar series.. keep everyone posted on the performance of the cue once it arrives.
That is terrific Philip! Please let us know how you get on with it! You can even try posting on The Snooker Gym facebook page too... we would love to see a photo of it
Ah hi yes The Snooker Gym page is where we publish our updates and new ideas. facebook.com/TheSnookerGym/The Snooker Gym Community is a private group only for clients who have purchased a product or service from The Snooker Gym
If you look at the links in the description to Ton's site, that will give you the price options of his current range Prices vary according to spec We are discussing with Ton whether to make a limited run of these TSG Canoe Cues
Slightly off topic and nice cue by the way ton praram cues are nicely made and as far as I know one of the top end cues made in Thailand plus maximus cues I was wondering what you think of Peradon cues like the Winchester model for instant do you know much about Peradon cues? Have you tried many ? Reason I ask is I ve notice that lots of good players play with a peradon however I have only tried one once so cannot do comparisons but from what I could see is lot of people seem to play with Peradon cues plus the company is supposedly one of the oldest cue makers around going back to 1886 something like that just wondered if you know much about these cues made by them I know cue craft cues are good and craftsman cues are which sells mostly Phoenix cues and maximus both of which are good but would like some input on the Peradon cues I do understand that not every cue suits everyone and cues can play differently to others any input would be much appreciated
TP's Limited editions vary from 500 to 700£, depending on the number of splices and the essences of woods employed. The rarer the pricier. A friend of mine got a Limited edition with four splices of snakewood for about 700 quids. Top quality !
My very own Ton Praram is a Series 1 (around £285 without the extensions) and even though it is the entry level, the quality is excellent and it plays very well. And funny enough, it also carries a boat/cannoe, like Nic's one. :)
The Snooker Gym I bought it from Stu at Green Baize and at the time I had selected three cues for him to test: a series 1, a series 2 and a Beyond. Tried them all and told me very honestly that for him the Series 1( so the cheaper of the three) was the better player and that it was playing more like a series 2 range. So I chose the Series 1 and never looked back. Awesome piece of wood, with four splices of Brazilian rosewood on the butt. And playability is right where Stu said it was. Right on top with my other cue, a Jason Owen made originally for Stephen Maguire (and this cue is a gem).
Hi MacAuley Grindrod If you look at the links in the description to Ton's site, that will give you the price options of his current range Prices vary according to spec
Ton Praram means "Ton" (ต้น) is the name of the man who made the Cue, Praram actually is Praram III (พระราม3) - the name of main road in Bangkok where Ton works at. (See at 2:27)
looks like someones pretty happy with his cue. i visit Thailand regularly, is this a place i could visit to order a cue? to get the feel for one rather than just ordering online? thanks.
Just a quick question , over the years iv always payed very close attention to the pro players cues because in my experience having a well balanced cue makes a hell of a lot off difference in play and I especially found that jimmy whites cue has always stood out from the rest , iv heard he plays with a heavy cue , does anybody out there just out off curiosity know the dimensions off his cue ???
A few others commented on that - although I have never felt any dents on my cue. The cue however was directly below a microphone which may have amplified the volume higher than my voice!
Looks amazing cue mate I've a parris ultimate and a grand cue from China both are beautiful cues and shafts Grand cues are top cues at affordable price
He makes beauties! You can buy them here in the UK My friend Stu Green offers an enormous range of cues and accessories you can try on his full sized tables in his showroom in Stockton On Tees, North England.He offers very good quality cues from the entry level price range to high end exotics.His is very approachable, offers great advice, and has an in house cue repair and alteration service.He can also offer advice by email or phone I don’t get commission on referrals (I regularly recommend him because he is great at what he does), but please say hello from me when you contact him to ensure the quickest service...www.greenbaize.com/contact/ In addition, my other friend Andrew Ramsay in the UK has a huge knowledge of cues and supplies a wide variety of brands at all price ranges as well as some exotic stuff.His ebay store is here www.ebay.co.uk/str/adr147 although you will often get the best deals by emailing him on adr147@hotmail.com
I have a Hand made Robin Scott luxury cue champion 58 inch same amount of splicing on the but using exotic woods ,with canoe shapes along the grain., Mine though was a bit wrong pretty thick at the part where the cue goes between the thumb and and fore finger, So I removed the tip and ferule , then planed down the wood ,sanded re grained and oiled replaced ferule with titanium re tip and now its a great cue for what I paid, A lot of great cues are coming from abroad with great exotic woods, This will put our England cue makers out of business unless they buy these cues in bulk and just become a seller, You just can not compete with what these cues cost,
many players know the benefit of reverse grain ie boat grain or yacht grain, welcome to the club, better nearer to the splices but your getting there, knowledge is learned lol
OMG I want this ! Just when I'm selecting my personal cue which is so hard for me, something like this pops up😭 I can't even afford something like this😶
I have a Ton Praram Beyond cue with a canoe grain myself. Lovely bit of wood. Doesn't stop me being a terrible player , but I like it!
LOL - lovely design isn't it. I have always loved the canoe grain
that's all that matters
Lovely looking cue, just ordered a cue with Ton myself 👍
They do such a great job - I am doing a coaching weekend at the club near his factory in Bangkok on 17/18 Dec (2022)....
Hi Nic.. after watching your video about Ton I decided to make a trip to Thailand and visit Ton.. I have to say I was quite impressed with his work ethics and quality of timber used... tried out many of the cues (Beyond series) in his workshop and was quite impressed with the performance of the cues. Mine should arrive within the next week or so (Beyond series). Prices are very reasonable considering some of the other so called top cue makers charge probably 3 times the amount for similar series.. keep everyone posted on the performance of the cue once it arrives.
That is terrific Philip! Please let us know how you get on with it!
You can even try posting on The Snooker Gym facebook page too... we would love to see a photo of it
Snooker Coaching - The Snooker Gym .. is it the snooker gym community or the snooker gym page? There r 2 listed .
Ah hi yes The Snooker Gym page is where we publish our updates and new ideas.
facebook.com/TheSnookerGym/The Snooker Gym Community is a private group only for clients who have purchased a product or service from The Snooker Gym
what would be the price for this delivered to Australia
facebook.com/tonpraram3cues/
If you look at the links in the description to Ton's site, that will give you the price options of his current range
Prices vary according to spec
We are discussing with Ton whether to make a limited run of these TSG Canoe Cues
Hey Nic what cue do you use normally? your own actual playing cue
This one
Slightly off topic and nice cue by the way ton praram cues are nicely made and as far as I know one of the top end cues made in Thailand plus maximus cues I was wondering what you think of Peradon cues like the Winchester model for instant do you know much about Peradon cues? Have you tried many ? Reason I ask is I ve notice that lots of good players play with a peradon however I have only tried one once so cannot do comparisons but from what I could see is lot of people seem to play with Peradon cues plus the company is supposedly one of the oldest cue makers around going back to 1886 something like that just wondered if you know much about these cues made by them I know cue craft cues are good and craftsman cues are which sells mostly Phoenix cues and maximus both of which are good but would like some input on the Peradon cues I do understand that not every cue suits everyone and cues can play differently to others any input would be much appreciated
Good starter cues
how much did it cost? ive been looking at Ton Param cues for a while now
TP's Limited editions vary from 500 to 700£, depending on the number of splices and the essences of woods employed. The rarer the pricier. A friend of mine got a Limited edition with four splices of snakewood for about 700 quids. Top quality !
My very own Ton Praram is a Series 1 (around £285 without the extensions) and even though it is the entry level, the quality is excellent and it plays very well. And funny enough, it also carries a boat/cannoe, like Nic's one. :)
Yes they are so well made FlyersNation98.... even the entry level seem perfect to me
The Snooker Gym I bought it from Stu at Green Baize and at the time I had selected three cues for him to test: a series 1, a series 2 and a Beyond. Tried them all and told me very honestly that for him the Series 1( so the cheaper of the three) was the better player and that it was playing more like a series 2 range. So I chose the Series 1 and never looked back. Awesome piece of wood, with four splices of Brazilian rosewood on the butt. And playability is right where Stu said it was. Right on top with my other cue, a Jason Owen made originally for Stephen Maguire (and this cue is a gem).
Hi MacAuley Grindrod
If you look at the links in the description to Ton's site, that will give you the price options of his current range
Prices vary according to spec
Ton Praram means "Ton" (ต้น) is the name of the man who made the Cue, Praram actually is Praram III (พระราม3) - the name of main road in Bangkok where Ton works at. (See at 2:27)
Not a lot of people know that!
He obviously does!
Ton is great - lovely human
looks like someones pretty happy with his cue. i visit Thailand regularly, is this a place i could visit to order a cue? to get the feel for one rather than just ordering online? thanks.
Yes you can visit his site and they are very friendly people to visit
@@TheSnookerGym thanks for that .hopefully soon we we can fly again. missing Thailand.
Will be there in winter 2023
@@TheSnookerGym thanks meduck.
Welcome middear!
Just a quick question , over the years iv always payed very close attention to the pro players cues because in my experience having a well balanced cue makes a hell of a lot off difference in play and I especially found that jimmy whites cue has always stood out from the rest , iv heard he plays with a heavy cue , does anybody out there just out off curiosity know the dimensions off his cue ???
That is not relevant to your performance - find a cue that feels comfortable and balanced and is not too long or short
A gorgeous cue Nic that's awesome!
Thank you Franchised - I am very pleased with it
Fantastic workmanship would probably not use the shaft to control the cue ball its unique and worth keeping that way. Would love a Ton Praram.
A few others commented on that - although I have never felt any dents on my cue. The cue however was directly below a microphone which may have amplified the volume higher than my voice!
What weight is it?
58 inches
love my cues. this is a beauty!
I was so chuffed with the grain!
Looks amazing cue mate I've a parris ultimate and a grand cue from China both are beautiful cues and shafts Grand cues are top cues at affordable price
He makes beauties!
You can buy them here in the UK
My friend Stu Green offers an enormous range of cues and accessories you can try on his full sized tables in his showroom in Stockton On Tees, North England.He offers very good quality cues from the entry level price range to high end exotics.His is very approachable, offers great advice, and has an in house cue repair and alteration service.He can also offer advice by email or phone I don’t get commission on referrals (I regularly recommend him because he is great at what he does), but please say hello from me when you contact him to ensure the quickest service...www.greenbaize.com/contact/
In addition, my other friend Andrew Ramsay in the UK has a huge knowledge of cues and supplies a wide variety of brands at all price ranges as well as some exotic stuff.His ebay store is here www.ebay.co.uk/str/adr147 although you will often get the best deals by emailing him on adr147@hotmail.com
@@TheSnookerGym
Hi mate thanks for the info
Will do I'll check them out later getting a new cue is always amazing buzz 🙂
Let us have updates
Can I ask how much it cost to have your cue made ?
They retail for around £1,000 I believe.
I have a Hand made Robin Scott luxury cue champion 58 inch same amount of splicing on the but using exotic woods ,with canoe shapes along the grain.,
Mine though was a bit wrong pretty thick at the part where the cue goes between the thumb and and fore finger,
So I removed the tip and ferule , then planed down the wood ,sanded re grained and oiled
replaced ferule with titanium re tip and now its a great cue for what I paid,
A lot of great cues are coming from abroad with great exotic woods,
This will put our England cue makers out of business unless they buy these cues in bulk and just become a seller,
You just can not compete with what these cues cost,
Thank you - but there will always be a market for premium hand made brand names at the high end of the market
*I used to have a boat cue ........ was so crap I threw it in the river. Probably still afloat somewhere to this day*
Nice cue
Thank you Douglas McGaw
Why a 9.3mm tip over 9.5 etc please
Less deflection with side and less bounce with top spin as the shaft has more flex
many players know the benefit of reverse grain ie boat grain or yacht grain, welcome to the club, better nearer to the splices but your getting there, knowledge is learned lol
Many players HATE it as they are TRADITIONALISTS... but I don't care! Let's be rebels!
Lovely grain cue, sound is bit loud
Microphone sensitive... ;-)
How much did u pay American $$
Hi Tenzin you can find details here: www.tonpraram3cues.com/
3C or TB
?
OMG I want this ! Just when I'm selecting my personal cue which is so hard for me, something like this pops up😭
I can't even afford something like this😶
I use a 30$ cue, it works fine for me
A swatch watch tells the time so does a Rolex.
Start small, build up over time!
chalk tip mate
Good tip!
Canoe
Correct
Sounds like a sales pitch
An enthusiastic review - I don't take commission from sales Ton get from my recommendations