3:40 Fitment Tips with RS Taichi GP Evo 7:35 RS Tiachi GP WRX 8:35 Cortech Adrenaline 3.0 RR 9:36 Five RFX1 10:40 RS Taichi GP Evo 11:39 Alpinestars GP Pro R2 12:46 Racer High Speed 14:05 Heroic SPR Pro 15:55 Held Phantom II 17:35 Alpinestars Supertech 19:06 Held Titan Evo 20:52 Five RFX Race 22:31 Personal Fit Recommendations 25:28 Jimmy's thoughts, RFX1's,
Currently on a hiatus from racing/riding because I couldn't afford good gear (broke college student) and it costed me an emergency room trip from a simple low side at Tally. I can't wait till I graduate and can afford proper gear to get back to it, and I really appreciate your amazing videos and honest feedback on gear to keep us updated. I'll be buying from STG for sure! 🚀
Great video, thank you so much! Your TH-cam Channel ist sooo underrated, which is a mystery to me, you offer so much info and feedback as the others! Just keep up the good work guys!
We just finished a huge helmet project that we are pretty excited about man. Should have it all up on the site end of this week or middle of next week. I am taking the family to the Upper Peninsula here is Michigan end of this week into middle of next week to ride sleds. Hopefully I can get this done before we roll out. - Brian Van
Held got special long and short sizes for the Phantom 2. So you could just try a L-10. It's a 10 for longer fingers. (At least for the Black Phantom 2 in germany)
When your gloves cost as much as 4 pairs of gloves they don't get any attention. Even though their quality is similar the price is just so ridiculous they don't deserve any mention. It's an insult to consumers. Like buying Apple products.
Thanks for the video guys. I pulled the trigger on a pair of heroic before Christmas and they are great gloves. I’m never going to be the quickest on track anyway so I went for max protection. No regrets on my purchase...
They are a great set of gloves for sure. End of the day we did this to showcase the differences between the gloves to help riders find the one that best suits their needs. Even though the Heroic are not my 1st pick I know for a fact there are a ton of riders that want a glove that offers more longevity and protection than the rest. - Van
So, adding value with a podium that does include the references: #1 Racer High speed 12:46 #2 RS-Taichi GP EVO 10:41 #3 Five RFX Race 20:52 Longer versions in the same order: th-cam.com/video/mj4t9_1kBv8/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/RcKwo8UJbTc/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/Si6g7wlT9h8/w-d-xo.html
Awesome video guys! Really helpful especially about the fit difference. I'll be definitely checking these out at my local bike store. Living in Japan now so the RS Taichi might end up being the ones I go for.
@@GoldenRoseRecords I tried the RS Taichi on at a local shop, but they didn't quite fit right with my hands. It's so hard to know unless you can actually try them on. But they were really well made gloves. I so wanted them to fit better.
Personal experience - Always try the gloves on with your leathers. I'm quite muscular so have to buy bigger suits, but I'm not that tall so end up with a little excess sleeve and ankle length. I bought a pair in the shop, felt great, tried them with my suit and no longer fitted well as the cuff pushed the glove forward and created too much excess room in the finger tips.
I would suggest having the sleeve of the suit altered. We did this for my Son Max on the ankles of his Astars Missile Suits. I trimmed off approximately 2 inches from the bottom of the legs to reduce the bulk in the ankle area for him. - Van
Best ones i ever bought are an RST Pro, bought them in 2010 and they are still in good working condition. Paint stars to come off, they look like used work gloves, but no torn seams. And they were far from expensive, IIRC something around 55Eur back then.
I can speak for the cortech adrenalines. Nice glove, was really happy with them (I’ve had a lot of gloves) but second ride the whole index finger seam split open!
Just a note about the Astars Gloves. It took me about 2 Weeks to initially break-in just about any Astars guanlets. I'm talking about daily riding to and from work. After two weeks my hands used to be mildly sore after 15-30 minutes on the bike. It look more like 2 hours. After riding in them for a Month they had fully formed to my hand. I Could ride all day no time limit and effort to put them on was easy. Taking them off was just a bit of effort but not obnoxious unless it was a super hot day. Hope this helps.
Thank you for taking the time to share your feedback. Having the opportunity to ride in all of these gloves at the same time I feel the most important thing is how the gloves feel out of the bag. IMO they need to be pretty much good to go on the first ride, this pretty much guarantees you will get the fit you want out of them. The less they have to stretch the better as it puts less stress on the leather and the stitching. I have ridden in more pairs of gloves than I can accurately recall at this point. This is the first time I have ridden in 11 pair at the same time, I learned a lot doing this. - Van
Ahhhhhh ,finally the race gauntlet glove shootout arrives !!! Really enjoyed both of you guys input and reviews. I'm normally a 2x here too. I went back and forth in the Heroics sizing until deciding a 14 was my best fit. The 15 was a comfort fit. Just my 02 I think if you go down one size your opinions may change.
I agree they are a great glove, personally I am willing to trade a little protection and long wear for more feel. We had all the sizes here to wear and landed on the 15. If you are looking for more protection and long life the Heroic gloves will be pretty hard to beat. - Van
Wow! Great Video Bryan. Wish I'd have known about the finger length factor before I opted for the XL instead of XXL Alpinestars that I got on Sale last Winter. Back then I figured the worst thing I could do was go w the XXL since the XXL's fit pretty sloppy in the fingertips to begin with & therfore lacked feel, so I figured they'd only get worse over time and went a size down. I assumed that with some regular use I'd wear them in & they'd stretch out enough to ultimately fit me fine...I was def wrong! I wanted track-worthy gloves, came across a great off-season deal & assumed that since they were A-Stars, I couldn't go wrong. Too bad I didn't see this video beforehand, I'd have known to swap brands instead of ending up with a $200 bargain that I rarely use vs. my less than ideal, but far more comfortable $60 go-to pair from amazon... That said, just wanted to let you know that you're content provides a tremendous amount of value to the MC / Sportbike community! It's very much appreciated. I especially liked your most recent series on the best helmets for different price-points. Great product category + fit & features vs. price breakdowns. You're videos keep getting better & better! You're content has earned my business, but unfortunately your AGV inventory has been preventing me from being able to actually buy my helmet from you recently... No worries though, just keep up the great work! and I'll make sure STG is my 1st stop for MC gear & accys in the future. Thank you
Yep used to fanboy for Alpine star but they were always cut too short in the hand it felt. Ever since going Five I realized what a great glove felt like. Had 2 pairs no doubt there will be more. Amazingly comfortable.
Every pair of gloves I’ve ever worn, not just bike gear, the index and middle fingers have always been to short! Yes they are on as much as they can be.
I have the knox handroid mk IV . IT was ok right out of the box, the first ride it was ok... then a second longer sportier ride and this time they start to hurt pretty mutch everywhere on my hand. So disappointed with ly size choices but i will give it one more try this weekend. Unfortunately i cant return them so i will have too loose money and sold them used. Maybe if i saw that video before i would knew what to test before riding with it !
When I rode MX we would sometimes take new boots into the bath or soak in hot water to accelerate break in. Have you heard of that in the street world? Boots and gloves, maybe a race suit or other leathers? My main concern would be that with MX, it's expected that the boots will get muddy/soaked. Not sure if street/race gloves have materials which might degrade.
I’ve gotten caught in the rain in an older pair of leather track gloves, it was a long ride and they mostly air dryed and then I let them sit when I arrived home. After they completely dried, they shrunk and I really can’t wear them anymore. DO NOT recommend soaking anything leather!
Hey Van, would you consider doing reviews on the brand Komine (Japanese Brand), in Singapore and a lot of Asian countries, the brand is available but sadly no one has been reviewing them. Price wise they are about 100USD and above.
Sportbike Track Gear so I’m really liking the Taichi GP-EVO R, looks like it’s the most agile and most supports holding the throttle in the “screwdriver” hold due to its design in the wrist. Comments?
Just bougth a pair of Five RFX race to replace my RFX1. The RFX1 was so great feel and flexible. I had a lowside so I have suprised my self with an upgrade, "the RACE must be even better". Same size RFX race feels so stiff. The size perfect, but not as flexible. I can't remember what was the rfx1 like when I got it maybe it was the same can't remeber😅. Will it ease up a lot? I still have the tags on. Shall I start to brake it in with some water or is that waste of time as the internal kevlar will not loosen up? Also my mate told me my new gloves stiffer as they are white (the old one is black) and to get the white result the chemicals and white paint makes the leather more rigid then the black😅. Is that BS? If I can brake in the Race to the level of the RFX1 I would love to keep it, but don't wanna ruin an expensive pair of gloves with a bucket of water. Help me out on this, please. 😊 Thanks!
Late comment here but can you tell me which of these gloves are using kevlar/aramid thread for the stitching? Last crash was ~70mph in a pair of Scorpion SG3 MKII gloves and all of the finger stitching just fell apart and I am lucky I didnt lose skin. Most comfortable gloves I have owned but super scary when I found out they wont hold up in a crash.
If you are looking for a race glove with a shit load of kevlar reinforcement take a look at the RST TracTech EVO R CE Gloves (only $119). www.sportbiketrackgear.com/rst-tractech-evo-r-ce-gloves/
Which brand and model has the shortest finger length? I got fat hands with shorter fingers, I have troubles on all alpinestars gloves (we have astars store nearby), L and XL can fit but the length for fingers are too much for me, do have any recommendations?
This year's shootout didn't have an ultimate protection glove like last year's Knox Handroid. I guess this year was a little underwhelming for me since I gravitate towards maximum protection and a glove without hard palm sliders on both areas of the palm is just a deal breaker for me. I can pray for Knox to return to what they are good at but I don't think that will be anytime soon. I just hope a company will one day come out with a fully armoured gloves with enough dexterity to not hinder the rider.
Out of the gloves included in this shootout I would give the Ultimate Protection tag to the Heroic SPR Pro Gloves. They use a full kangaroo chassis (a little thicker than the other brands) with double stitching and a ton of stingray hide. Using the stingray in place of plastic sliders you get the same effect with the added bonus of not transferring as much energy from an impact as the plastic will. As with the Handroid you do sacrifice a little feel and dexterity for the added protection. I would also say the Heroic gloves will last the longest of the bunch. - Van
Handroids are not that great dude. Gimmicky. Those plastic things just bust right off. The sliders and robust leather chassis of Heroic gloves are the best.
I tried on both the heroic and the handroid, and bought the heroic. It feels like a much more durable glove and handroid exoskeleton does feel a bit flimsy when you see it. No regrets on my purchase, I’m never going to be the quickest guy out there anyway so I want maximum safety and the heroics are great for that.
With Alpinestars the GP series gloves typically offer a tighter fit than the rest of the line. The latest version of GP Pro R3 is an excellent glove. Both Max and I have worn them quite a bit. Five makes a nice glove but they are no longer distributed or supported here in the US. - Van
I have not done any real street riding in years my man. The pressure will be different from tire to tire. I would do a search for the specific tire you plan to ride on and run that. IMO the rider weight is not a significant factor for tire pressure unless we are talking about a big number. - Van
Van I have short and big forearms so my padding in my 1piece suit is near my wrist ! I have tried the full metal6 but the gloves is not big enought to go over the padding, , can you tell which gloves in your experience i could try?
@Sportbike Track Gear. I am using Astar gp tech small size. The fitting is too tight but finger length is good. Medium size feel good at the palm but the finger is too long. I have short fingers, What do you suggest for me? What do you think about revit jerez? ( Revit spitfire medium size is perfect for me).
We offer some of the Revit products but have not put a lot of effort into updates as our customers have never shown much interest in them over the years. In your case the best way to get a good fitting pair of gloves will be to go to a shop and try on several pair. We have a ton of gloves here in stock but like other dealers our showroom is currently closed due to the Coronapocolypse. When this passes you need to go to a shop. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Thanks. Honestly there is no nearby local shops, all of my gears were bought through online.Anyway Can you please suggest any high end race gloves for my finger types? Please.
Listen here Brian. I don't need a new pair of gloves. I have a set of Dainese Gauntlets I got from you guys a year ago. I've only worn them a couple of times because i crashed im a set of summer gloves (that weren't worth a shit) and fractured my wrist so i missed last riding season. But i for damm sure am about to get another set of gloves because I'm addicted to new gear. By next Tuesday I'm putting in an order. Bet!
Sportbike Track Gear Aww Yeah. Just now put in an order. Thank you. I’ll be placing another one to blow threw my refund check when it comes also 😎. Thanks guys.
We no longer offer Knox products here at STG. Too difficult to deal with so we dropped them. The Handroid is not a bad glove, there are several gloves here that are better IMO. - Van
In many of the Astars gloves I will be a 3XL so comparing finger length won't do much. I have worn both of those gloves in the past and found the finger length to be right where it needs to be. Over the last few years we have seen the glove sizing from most of the big brands to get closer to each other. There is still some variance in fit from brand to brand but it is not as much as we had seen in the past. Of all the gloves in this video both Jimmy and I felt the Held Titan had the shortest fingers, followed by the Held Phantom 2. With that said the difference was around 1/4" ish. The first thing I would do in your case is take a good measurement and use the size chart for the gloves you have to see if you are in the size they would recommend for you and work from there. We are turning on a pretty cool glove sizing video later today that will help IMO. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear Thanks for the detailed response. My problem is I have wide palms and short fingers so every glove that fits me has fingers about 1/2" to 3/4" too long. This really sucks with street gloves with touchscreen enabled tips. For sport riding, I guess having gloves with too long fingers is better than too short.
For sure having the fingers too long is better than having them too short. Most of the gloves are built using a very similar pattern which means it will be tough to find a pair with short fingers and wide palms. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Is this a recent change? You used to make videos on their products. Dainese seems to be dropped by a few dealers. My local bike shop also no longer stocks Dainese, something about an issue with management.
No we no longer offer Knox Handroids. They are a good glove, only issue is they require more break in than most other gloves out there. Several of the gloves we have included offer a very similar level of protection (with the exception of the exo-skeleton on the back of the Handroid which reduces feel while increasing protection), require less break in and many will offer more feel in the end. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Ok. Well to be honnest I own 1st and 2nd Gen of the Knox Handroid and I use them on my day to day routine so both of them had a quick break in...I would guess if you mainly use them for trackdays it would take you longer to break them in if you only do trackdays once in a while...but that's not even an issue per sei. Have to disagree on your statement about the exo-skeleton... why you would you stablish a connection with reduction in feel...feel is about palms and fingers (which is great)...I've done several trackdays over these last years and there's no issues about feel...in my opinion! Thanks for the great review on this shootout it was great to get to know gloves that I didn't even knew existed. :)
We learned a lot having the opportunity to try all of these gloves at the same time. Over the years I have ridden in a ton of different gloves, always one set at a time for the most part. I have ridden in all of the versions of the Handroid and like the gloves, for me the break took a lot of effort. At one point we were the US distributor for Knox so we have sold hundreds of Handroids (maybe in the 1000's) overall the feedback was good, most common complaint was the break in. Important to remember we all shaped a little differently with our own likes and dislikes so we may not choose the same glove or have the same experience with the same model. A great example of that is Jimmy and I only ranked one glove in the same spot. You are welcome and thank you for taking the time to leave your feedback! - Brian Van
Yes Alpinestars is replacing them in the spring of this year with the Alpienstars GP Pro R3 Gloves. We have some on the way to review and will get that up as soon as we receive them. Here is a link to the new gloves on the site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/alpinestars-gp-pro-r3-leather-gloves/
We no longer offer Knox products here at STG. End of the day the gloves we have included in this cover all the bases and then some. During this process we learned a lot with one of the most important points being how important it is the gloves feel good right out of the bag. The Handroids are not a bad glove but we can say for sure feeling good out of the bag and easy break in are two areas they are not great. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear i owned the knox handroid mk3 and switched to a pair of phantom 2... its like a sofa in comparison and more usable out of the box. I always watch your videos before purchasing any new riding gear, because you are the only one on youtube who knows what he is talking about and also wants the best for his customers👌🏽 Ordered a Bell pro star a few days ago because of you too😅 Keep the exceptional work up👌🏽 Could you do some vlogging while on a trackday in the future? Greetings from Germany!
We no longer offer Knox products here at STG. The Handroids are a good glove for sure, that said there are several options here I feel are better. - Van
We no longer offer Knox gloves. The Handroids are a good option as long as you are comfortable with the extended break in they require. Having ridden in the Handroids many times I have grown to prefer gloves that break in a little easier now. This was a cool project as it provided the opportunity to compare all of the gloves at the same time. Having done this I believe the most important factor is how the gloves feel right out of the bag. - Van
While no brand is perfect I will say Astars if far from garbage. My son Max and I are both riding in their stuff because I feel it is the best option. Especially with the Tech Air Race Vest. - Van
3:40 Fitment Tips with RS Taichi GP Evo
7:35 RS Tiachi GP WRX
8:35 Cortech Adrenaline 3.0 RR
9:36 Five RFX1
10:40 RS Taichi GP Evo
11:39 Alpinestars GP Pro R2
12:46 Racer High Speed
14:05 Heroic SPR Pro
15:55 Held Phantom II
17:35 Alpinestars Supertech
19:06 Held Titan Evo
20:52 Five RFX Race
22:31 Personal Fit Recommendations
25:28 Jimmy's thoughts, RFX1's,
Thankyou
Thanks
Best product review on the net for bike gear. Another awesome video.
Thank you for watching and the kind words. - Van
Currently on a hiatus from racing/riding because I couldn't afford good gear (broke college student) and it costed me an emergency room trip from a simple low side at Tally.
I can't wait till I graduate and can afford proper gear to get back to it, and I really appreciate your amazing videos and honest feedback on gear to keep us updated. I'll be buying from STG for sure! 🚀
Appreciate the kind words my man! Get healed up and we look forward to seeing you back at the track. - Brian Van
Man we need another one these!
We are hoping to get back to this. I end up so busy with Max's racing it makes it hard to get these done. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear completely understandable!
Best of luck with the racing this season gents!
Safety has no price. Thanks for posting.
We should all wear the best gear we can afford for sure. You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Brian Van
Stingray slider, how fancy!!!
Great video, thank you so much! Your TH-cam Channel ist sooo underrated, which is a mystery to me, you offer so much info and feedback as the others! Just keep up the good work guys!
Thank you for watching and the kind words! - Van
Next up we need a helmet review. Im looking to buy my first lid and that'll be really helpful to get your take on a few bacon savers
We just finished a huge helmet project that we are pretty excited about man. Should have it all up on the site end of this week or middle of next week. I am taking the family to the Upper Peninsula here is Michigan end of this week into middle of next week to ride sleds. Hopefully I can get this done before we roll out. - Brian Van
Held got special long and short sizes for the Phantom 2. So you could just try a L-10. It's a 10 for longer fingers. (At least for the Black Phantom 2 in germany)
The long and short finger variants have never sold well here in the US and can be hard to source. - Van
Sad that the dianese full metal 6 gloves didnt make it into this review. I would of loved to see them reviewed
We no longer offer Dainese products here at STG, too many service related issues. - Van
Too many people with pinky damage in full metal 6.
When your gloves cost as much as 4 pairs of gloves they don't get any attention.
Even though their quality is similar the price is just so ridiculous they don't deserve any mention.
It's an insult to consumers.
Like buying Apple products.
Thanks for the video guys. I pulled the trigger on a pair of heroic before Christmas and they are great gloves. I’m never going to be the quickest on track anyway so I went for max protection. No regrets on my purchase...
They are a great set of gloves for sure. End of the day we did this to showcase the differences between the gloves to help riders find the one that best suits their needs. Even though the Heroic are not my 1st pick I know for a fact there are a ton of riders that want a glove that offers more longevity and protection than the rest. - Van
So, adding value with a podium that does include the references:
#1 Racer High speed 12:46
#2 RS-Taichi GP EVO 10:41
#3 Five RFX Race 20:52
Longer versions in the same order:
th-cam.com/video/mj4t9_1kBv8/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/RcKwo8UJbTc/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/Si6g7wlT9h8/w-d-xo.html
Awesome video guys! Really helpful especially about the fit difference. I'll be definitely checking these out at my local bike store. Living in Japan now so the RS Taichi might end up being the ones I go for.
How are they so far? I’m taking about grabbing the phantom 2
@@GoldenRoseRecords I tried the RS Taichi on at a local shop, but they didn't quite fit right with my hands. It's so hard to know unless you can actually try them on. But they were really well made gloves. I so wanted them to fit better.
Lucky enough to have the RFX Fives' Awesome glove 4 crashes and still like new "well almost" :)
Five makes an excellent glove for sure. - Van
Personal experience - Always try the gloves on with your leathers. I'm quite muscular so have to buy bigger suits, but I'm not that tall so end up with a little excess sleeve and ankle length. I bought a pair in the shop, felt great, tried them with my suit and no longer fitted well as the cuff pushed the glove forward and created too much excess room in the finger tips.
I would suggest having the sleeve of the suit altered. We did this for my Son Max on the ankles of his Astars Missile Suits. I trimmed off approximately 2 inches from the bottom of the legs to reduce the bulk in the ankle area for him. - Van
Best ones i ever bought are an RST Pro, bought them in 2010 and they are still in good working condition. Paint stars to come off, they look like used work gloves, but no torn seams. And they were far from expensive, IIRC something around 55Eur back then.
RST Gloves will be included next time for sure. We did not offer them here at STG before Jan of 2019 which is why they were not part of this. - Van
I can speak for the cortech adrenalines. Nice glove, was really happy with them (I’ve had a lot of gloves) but second ride the whole index finger seam split open!
Just a note about the Astars Gloves. It took me about 2 Weeks to initially break-in just about any Astars guanlets. I'm talking about daily riding to and from work.
After two weeks my hands used to be mildly sore after 15-30 minutes on the bike. It look more like 2 hours. After riding in them for a Month they had fully formed to my hand. I Could ride all day no time limit and effort to put them on was easy. Taking them off was just a bit of effort but not obnoxious unless it was a super hot day. Hope this helps.
Thank you for taking the time to share your feedback. Having the opportunity to ride in all of these gloves at the same time I feel the most important thing is how the gloves feel out of the bag. IMO they need to be pretty much good to go on the first ride, this pretty much guarantees you will get the fit you want out of them. The less they have to stretch the better as it puts less stress on the leather and the stitching.
I have ridden in more pairs of gloves than I can accurately recall at this point. This is the first time I have ridden in 11 pair at the same time, I learned a lot doing this. - Van
Now that was an excellent and informative shoot out video ... well done.
Thanks for watching! - Van
i have smaller hands and short fingers, i own a pair of held gloves and they fit perfectly, as if they were tailored on my hands. love them.
Held makes a great glove, some of the very best craftsmanship you will find. - Van
Ahhhhhh ,finally the race gauntlet glove shootout arrives !!! Really enjoyed both of you guys input and reviews. I'm normally a 2x here too. I went back and forth in the Heroics sizing until deciding a 14 was my best fit. The 15 was a comfort fit. Just my 02 I think if you go down one size your opinions may change.
I agree they are a great glove, personally I am willing to trade a little protection and long wear for more feel. We had all the sizes here to wear and landed on the 15. If you are looking for more protection and long life the Heroic gloves will be pretty hard to beat. - Van
YES!!!!! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
Five rfx1 I got them last week. Feel so good for that price nice choice :D
We were both really impressed with these gloves as well. Could easily sell for much more IMO. - Van
Wow! Great Video Bryan. Wish I'd have known about the finger length factor before I opted for the XL instead of XXL Alpinestars that I got on Sale last Winter. Back then I figured the worst thing I could do was go w the XXL since the XXL's fit pretty sloppy in the fingertips to begin with & therfore lacked feel, so I figured they'd only get worse over time and went a size down. I assumed that with some regular use I'd wear them in & they'd stretch out enough to ultimately fit me fine...I was def wrong!
I wanted track-worthy gloves, came across a great off-season deal & assumed that since they were A-Stars, I couldn't go wrong. Too bad I didn't see this video beforehand, I'd have known to swap brands instead of ending up with a $200 bargain that I rarely use vs. my less than ideal, but far more comfortable $60 go-to pair from amazon...
That said, just wanted to let you know that you're content provides a tremendous amount of value to the MC / Sportbike community! It's very much appreciated. I especially liked your most recent series on the best helmets for different price-points. Great product category + fit & features vs. price breakdowns. You're videos keep getting better & better!
You're content has earned my business, but unfortunately your AGV inventory has been preventing me from being able to actually buy my helmet from you recently... No worries though, just keep up the great work! and I'll make sure STG is my 1st stop for MC gear & accys in the future. Thank you
Thank you for watching and the kind words! - Van
Great vid!!! I’ll be picking up a new set gloves this spring.
Thank you for watching! - Brian Van
Both Held are awesome. Nice video.
Held makes some amazing gloves for sure. Thanks for watching! - Van
FIVE make the best gloves 🧤
IMO it is hard to say anyone is the Best. That said the Five gloves were 2 of our top picks in the end. - Van
After 30 years of riding I have 3 sets of 5 gloves currently in my kit bag, they are just awesome
Yep used to fanboy for Alpine star but they were always cut too short in the hand it felt. Ever since going Five I realized what a great glove felt like. Had 2 pairs no doubt there will be more. Amazingly comfortable.
@@sportbiketrackgear Are 5 gloves touch screen compatible?
@@hfr8343 I have a pair that are, not sure what model name
HECK yeah I've been waiting for this video!
Every pair of gloves I’ve ever worn, not just bike gear, the index and middle fingers have always been to short! Yes they are on as much as they can be.
We are all shaped differently and the manufactures do the best they can to get the fit in the sweet spot. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear anyone make custom gloves?
Why not the Knox handroid?
Thought the same. I have the knox and I love them. Had them for 3 years no issues tons of features and protection
they answer that question below in a different comment
What do I do if a medium is too tight around the hand but the fingers of a large are way too long?
You need to try some other models on to find one that will get you the fit you prefer. - Van
Love your videos u doo a good breakdown of all gear
Thanks for watching! - Van
I have the knox handroid mk IV . IT was ok right out of the box, the first ride it was ok... then a second longer sportier ride and this time they start to hurt pretty mutch everywhere on my hand. So disappointed with ly size choices but i will give it one more try this weekend. Unfortunately i cant return them so i will have too loose money and sold them used. Maybe if i saw that video before i would knew what to test before riding with it !
When I rode MX we would sometimes take new boots into the bath or soak in hot water to accelerate break in.
Have you heard of that in the street world? Boots and gloves, maybe a race suit or other leathers?
My main concern would be that with MX, it's expected that the boots will get muddy/soaked. Not sure if street/race gloves have materials which might degrade.
Personally I would not do this with a pair of street boots. - Van
I’ve gotten caught in the rain in an older pair of leather track gloves, it was a long ride and they mostly air dryed and then I let them sit when I arrived home. After they completely dried, they shrunk and I really can’t wear them anymore. DO NOT recommend soaking anything leather!
Hey Van, would you consider doing reviews on the brand Komine (Japanese Brand), in Singapore and a lot of Asian countries, the brand is available but sadly no one has been reviewing them. Price wise they are about 100USD and above.
We are open to reviewing any products distributed here in the US only. Only so many hours in the day my friend. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear awww, maybe I should start doing my own reviews too. But thanks alot for the reply. Love the videos always
@@ferhadkhan4978 No worries, thanks for watching. - Van
Gonna get one of these
23:00: please name the models when you say which is or isn't good: we can't recognize all of them.
IMO they are all good gloves, the only one I would say I do not like would be the Astars Supertech. Beyond that it is all about fit and feel. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear so I’m really liking the Taichi GP-EVO R, looks like it’s the most agile and most supports holding the throttle in the “screwdriver” hold due to its design in the wrist. Comments?
Yes! Thrilled to see this
Thanks again for a great video !!
You are welcome and thank you for watching. - Van
Just bougth a pair of Five RFX race to replace my RFX1.
The RFX1 was so great feel and flexible. I had a lowside so I have suprised my self with an upgrade, "the RACE must be even better". Same size RFX race feels so stiff. The size perfect, but not as flexible. I can't remember what was the rfx1 like when I got it maybe it was the same can't remeber😅.
Will it ease up a lot?
I still have the tags on. Shall I start to brake it in with some water or is that waste of time as the internal kevlar will not loosen up?
Also my mate told me my new gloves stiffer as they are white (the old one is black) and to get the white result the chemicals and white paint makes the leather more rigid then the black😅. Is that BS?
If I can brake in the Race to the level of the RFX1 I would love to keep it, but don't wanna ruin an expensive pair of gloves with a bucket of water.
Help me out on this, please. 😊
Thanks!
Late comment here but can you tell me which of these gloves are using kevlar/aramid thread for the stitching? Last crash was ~70mph in a pair of Scorpion SG3 MKII gloves and all of the finger stitching just fell apart and I am lucky I didnt lose skin. Most comfortable gloves I have owned but super scary when I found out they wont hold up in a crash.
If you are looking for a race glove with a shit load of kevlar reinforcement take a look at the RST TracTech EVO R CE Gloves (only $119). www.sportbiketrackgear.com/rst-tractech-evo-r-ce-gloves/
Motogloveology 101
M,T,W,Th,F - all day long
Brian Van, M.Sc.
STG University, Dean of Moto Dept.
My kind of teacher I need this fall!!
Damn som these gloves are lit af
Which brand and model has the shortest finger length? I got fat hands with shorter fingers, I have troubles on all alpinestars gloves (we have astars store nearby), L and XL can fit but the length for fingers are too much for me, do have any recommendations?
Both Jimmy and I found the fingers on the Held gloves to be the shortest of all the models we tested here in this video. - Van
This year's shootout didn't have an ultimate protection glove like last year's Knox Handroid. I guess this year was a little underwhelming for me since I gravitate towards maximum protection and a glove without hard palm sliders on both areas of the palm is just a deal breaker for me. I can pray for Knox to return to what they are good at but I don't think that will be anytime soon. I just hope a company will one day come out with a fully armoured gloves with enough dexterity to not hinder the rider.
Out of the gloves included in this shootout I would give the Ultimate Protection tag to the Heroic SPR Pro Gloves. They use a full kangaroo chassis (a little thicker than the other brands) with double stitching and a ton of stingray hide. Using the stingray in place of plastic sliders you get the same effect with the added bonus of not transferring as much energy from an impact as the plastic will. As with the Handroid you do sacrifice a little feel and dexterity for the added protection. I would also say the Heroic gloves will last the longest of the bunch. - Van
Handroids are not that great dude. Gimmicky. Those plastic things just bust right off. The sliders and robust leather chassis of Heroic gloves are the best.
Van beat me to it- there is no way Handroids could take the same crash that SPRs could
I tried on both the heroic and the handroid, and bought the heroic. It feels like a much more durable glove and handroid exoskeleton does feel a bit flimsy when you see it. No regrets on my purchase, I’m never going to be the quickest guy out there anyway so I want maximum safety and the heroics are great for that.
Hey, any plans to do another one of these?
watching this in 2020 for them discounts! :D
We need to do another one for 2021. - Van
I found the alpinestars are a size bigger then the five gloves
Alpineatars gloves have gone off to stiff and no feel
The Five racer gloves are epic
With Alpinestars the GP series gloves typically offer a tighter fit than the rest of the line. The latest version of GP Pro R3 is an excellent glove. Both Max and I have worn them quite a bit. Five makes a nice glove but they are no longer distributed or supported here in the US. - Van
Hey van I have a question do you Street ride and if you do what’s the psi you ride front and back I’m 220 lbs and I know you 200lbs yourself
I have not done any real street riding in years my man. The pressure will be different from tire to tire. I would do a search for the specific tire you plan to ride on and run that. IMO the rider weight is not a significant factor for tire pressure unless we are talking about a big number. - Van
Van I have short and big forearms so my padding in my 1piece suit is near my wrist ! I have tried the full metal6 but the gloves is not big enought to go over the padding, , can you tell which gloves in your experience i could try?
The Racer Gloves have a pretty big gauntlet on them, give them a shot. - Van
Nice watch.
I have several of the Invicta watches. They are cool and cheap. - Van
@Sportbike Track Gear. I am using Astar gp tech small size. The fitting is too tight but finger length is good. Medium size feel good at the palm but the finger is too long. I have short fingers, What do you suggest for me? What do you think about revit jerez? ( Revit spitfire medium size is perfect for me).
We offer some of the Revit products but have not put a lot of effort into updates as our customers have never shown much interest in them over the years. In your case the best way to get a good fitting pair of gloves will be to go to a shop and try on several pair. We have a ton of gloves here in stock but like other dealers our showroom is currently closed due to the Coronapocolypse. When this passes you need to go to a shop. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Thanks. Honestly there is no nearby local shops, all of my gears were bought through online.Anyway Can you please suggest any high end race gloves for my finger types? Please.
Listen here Brian. I don't need a new pair of gloves. I have a set of Dainese Gauntlets I got from you guys a year ago. I've only worn them a couple of times because i crashed im a set of summer gloves (that weren't worth a shit) and fractured my wrist so i missed last riding season. But i for damm sure am about to get another set of gloves because I'm addicted to new gear. By next Tuesday I'm putting in an order. Bet!
Appreciate the business and happy to hear you have healed up. Enjoy the upcoming riding season! - Van
Sportbike Track Gear Aww Yeah. Just now put in an order. Thank you. I’ll be placing another one to blow threw my refund check when it comes also 😎. Thanks guys.
Hey I have a question where can I get 2001 suzuki katana 750 fairings
I would try ebay for them. - Van
I'm looking for a nice pair I don't race I only want street riding around Ohio/Michigan on my R3. But I'd like to have good hand protection.
Are you looking for a full gauntlet or a short glove? Also what is the budget you are working with? - Van
Why no knox glove in the shootout?
We no longer offer Knox products here at STG. Too difficult to deal with so we dropped them. The Handroid is not a bad glove, there are several gloves here that are better IMO. - Van
What are your finger length measurements? My Astars GP Plus and GPX gloves are XL and the fingers are too long
In many of the Astars gloves I will be a 3XL so comparing finger length won't do much. I have worn both of those gloves in the past and found the finger length to be right where it needs to be. Over the last few years we have seen the glove sizing from most of the big brands to get closer to each other. There is still some variance in fit from brand to brand but it is not as much as we had seen in the past. Of all the gloves in this video both Jimmy and I felt the Held Titan had the shortest fingers, followed by the Held Phantom 2. With that said the difference was around 1/4" ish.
The first thing I would do in your case is take a good measurement and use the size chart for the gloves you have to see if you are in the size they would recommend for you and work from there. We are turning on a pretty cool glove sizing video later today that will help IMO. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear Thanks for the detailed response. My problem is I have wide palms and short fingers so every glove that fits me has fingers about 1/2" to 3/4" too long. This really sucks with street gloves with touchscreen enabled tips. For sport riding, I guess having gloves with too long fingers is better than too short.
For sure having the fingers too long is better than having them too short. Most of the gloves are built using a very similar pattern which means it will be tough to find a pair with short fingers and wide palms. - Van
Hi Brain
where does the Dainese full metal 6 fit into this list?
Thanks
We do not offer Dainese products here at STG. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Is this a recent change? You used to make videos on their products. Dainese seems to be dropped by a few dealers. My local bike shop also no longer stocks Dainese, something about an issue with management.
Which gloves are rated to CE Level 2? GP Pro R3..
The GP Pro R3 gloves are certified to CE-certified (CAT II Level 2, KP) - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Any other gloves?
No Knox Handroid?
No we no longer offer Knox Handroids. They are a good glove, only issue is they require more break in than most other gloves out there. Several of the gloves we have included offer a very similar level of protection (with the exception of the exo-skeleton on the back of the Handroid which reduces feel while increasing protection), require less break in and many will offer more feel in the end. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Ok. Well to be honnest I own 1st and 2nd Gen of the Knox Handroid and I use them on my day to day routine so both of them had a quick break in...I would guess if you mainly use them for trackdays it would take you longer to break them in if you only do trackdays once in a while...but that's not even an issue per sei. Have to disagree on your statement about the exo-skeleton... why you would you stablish a connection with reduction in feel...feel is about palms and fingers (which is great)...I've done several trackdays over these last years and there's no issues about feel...in my opinion! Thanks for the great review on this shootout it was great to get to know gloves that I didn't even knew existed. :)
We learned a lot having the opportunity to try all of these gloves at the same time. Over the years I have ridden in a ton of different gloves, always one set at a time for the most part. I have ridden in all of the versions of the Handroid and like the gloves, for me the break took a lot of effort. At one point we were the US distributor for Knox so we have sold hundreds of Handroids (maybe in the 1000's) overall the feedback was good, most common complaint was the break in.
Important to remember we all shaped a little differently with our own likes and dislikes so we may not choose the same glove or have the same experience with the same model. A great example of that is Jimmy and I only ranked one glove in the same spot.
You are welcome and thank you for taking the time to leave your feedback! - Brian Van
The gp pro r2 are getting replaced?
Yes Alpinestars is replacing them in the spring of this year with the Alpienstars GP Pro R3 Gloves. We have some on the way to review and will get that up as soon as we receive them. Here is a link to the new gloves on the site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/alpinestars-gp-pro-r3-leather-gloves/
No dainese full metal???? SMH...
We no longer offer Dainese products here at STG.
I love how the American guys always pull the trigger on something.....
I love how dudes from the UK expertly use of the word cunt.
@@sportbiketrackgear well played sir...well played...
No knox handroid mk4?
We no longer offer Knox products here at STG. End of the day the gloves we have included in this cover all the bases and then some. During this process we learned a lot with one of the most important points being how important it is the gloves feel good right out of the bag. The Handroids are not a bad glove but we can say for sure feeling good out of the bag and easy break in are two areas they are not great. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear i owned the knox handroid mk3 and switched to a pair of phantom 2... its like a sofa in comparison and more usable out of the box.
I always watch your videos before purchasing any new riding gear, because you are the only one on youtube who knows what he is talking about and also wants the best for his customers👌🏽
Ordered a Bell pro star a few days ago because of you too😅
Keep the exceptional work up👌🏽
Could you do some vlogging while on a trackday in the future?
Greetings from Germany!
Do they come with a new motorcycle for that price , asking for a ridiculously stupid friend
100% not gonna happen! - Van
What watch are you wearing?
I like the Invicta watches and have several. You get a lot of watch for a reasonable price with Invicta. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear thanks man, could you tell me the name/model no. of this exact one?
It is a Sub Aqua Reserve model, I do not see a model number on it. - Van
no handroids?
We no longer offer Knox products here at STG. The Handroids are a good glove for sure, that said there are several options here I feel are better. - Van
f1 STYLE CARBON FIBER?! REALLY?!
Yes it is some crazy expensive carbon that really adds to the price of the glove. - Van
those 5 gloves are sexy
Alpinestars suck when it comes to size , but the boots are 100% go
I’m surprised that you didn’t include the Knox Handroids guys
We no longer offer Knox gloves. The Handroids are a good option as long as you are comfortable with the extended break in they require. Having ridden in the Handroids many times I have grown to prefer gloves that break in a little easier now. This was a cool project as it provided the opportunity to compare all of the gloves at the same time. Having done this I believe the most important factor is how the gloves feel right out of the bag. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear . Thanks for your honest and detailed reply Brian - your kit reviews and project bike videos are exemplary
Thanks man, appreciate that! - Van
Я вообще не понимаю нах все остальное когда есть Dainese и Knox Handroid
Wow, Brian, got a little salt on your chin. Getting older.
Had a handful of pretzels before I shot this, guess I am a messy eater....
@@sportbiketrackgear love it
Can you send me a glove.
Noi-Z send them some $$ and I’m sure they’ll be happy to!
My man I will send you any pair of gloves you pay for... - Van
The BUMMER is y'all being so partial to alpinestARS GARBAGE GEAR
While no brand is perfect I will say Astars if far from garbage. My son Max and I are both riding in their stuff because I feel it is the best option. Especially with the Tech Air Race Vest. - Van