I would have found more value in some kind of test. Taking them apart will show you that the knockoff is inferior, but it doesn't tell you how it would hold up on the typical low side slide. I don't think the majority of crashes happen at a higher speed, so I'd be curious at the point of failure on the knock offs.
I saw an article that did a study on knockoff yamaha riding pants by the BBC I believe. The yamaha pants were rated to slide for 3 seconds after testing. Ece standards are 5+. Don't quote me on the standards. I skimmed the article but u get the idea. Inferior material and craftsmanship that's not up to modern safety standards. Going down sucks pretty bad even in real gear. That extra 2 seconds for some extra cash sounds pretty alright to me at this point lol.
I would assume just by the fact that cheaper gloves already exist from good companies that are making them less protective to fit a price point would already tell you that the cheaper one isn't going to be as good. You would be able to compare it to a glove that is build with similar material. Which would mean in some cases it would still work street riding but not for street riding since fake leather doesn't offer good protection at high speeds.
I know it was expensive making this video, but it was exactly what I looked for, 10 years ago I wouldn't have dreamed of anything coming near such attempts people trying to make for gear that can save your life. If I wouldn't have seen this video I proby would have bought a cheap pair thinking it would save my ass like the real ones. Definitely what I was looking for and worth every dime opening them up, much thanks stay healthy!
+wowerman Hey Wow,We're glad you enjoyed the video, and found it helpful too. In such a competitive world, most of the time, if it seems too good to be true, it most likely is. There are some really good copies out there for sure, but to profit on the potential risk of another, is just unethical and irresponsible. Thanks for watching our videos and your business. You remembered to subscribe, right?Ride safe out there.BB.com
Id rather save money and get the fakes they still look as cool and i can tell people they were more expensive and girls will be impressed and if i crash and my hands get mangled il just grow a new pair for free
I always get comments on my Sidi Vortice boots when I ride, on how they look like ski boots and make a lot of noise when I walk. People sometimes ask how much they go for, They are $495. I get a lot of odd looks, I just reply with the well $495 is an investment, if I don't wear them and I crash the chances of a broken leg is way higher with out the boots and hospital bills will be many times more than the boots cost. Hell the ambulance ride will be two to three times more then the boots cost. Wear your gear fellas, 5 extra minutes is worth saving your self road rash, broken bones or possible paralysis.
+xavier415 Hey X415, I too have a couple pairs of Vortices, and yup I've crashed in them. Walked away without a scratch. Are they a bit squeaky? Yup. That's a small price to pay for articulating ankles armatures. Try a little bit a silicone spray (Armor-All) on a Q-tip, and apply that to where the plastic pieces rub over each other. We find that helps. Knowing that you're wearing the finest product, from a company that doesn't make anything but footwear, has been doing it since the 1960's, and what the fastest guys on the planet wear...well that's just nothing reassurance. Why do they look like ski boots? Dino Signori (flip the firs two letters of each word to see where the company got their name) is the founder of Sidi. He is the inventor of the rear-entry ski boot. So there you have it! Thanks for watching our videos and the comment. You're a subscriber to our channel, right? Ride safe out there! BB.com
+Yogi me Advice if you wanna take it. Riding slow/responsibly/safe won't save you from the carelessness of others around you. If you get away from people you still have to contend with nature. Ride with the best gear you can.
I get the point you're making but for people who can't afford the extortionate prices of top A* gear this basically demonstrates that for the price the $60 gloves are not too bad. Any gloves better than no gloves
Hey AT, First things first, thanks for watching our videos and the comment. Now, as far as ever riding with no gloves, that's just dumb. The way we're wired, we put our hands out when we fall, be it over the cat, on the garden hose, or off a motorcycle. Our problem with the fraud gloves, is that they're profiting by taking advantage of you, the consumer who's thinking that they're going to be protected in a crash scenario, and they're doing it with inferior materials. Just for giggles, I went to the Ali Xpress and typed in Alpinestars GP Pro. Not even $40. This is a glove that retails for $240. Anyone who thinks that they're getting a current genuine leather glove for almost %85 off is just naive. Anyways, ride safe, see good gear as an investment, and have fun. Subscribe if you haven't, OK. BB.com!
If you can't afford the GP pro's get the GPX's they are a mid cuff design at 130 dollars they offer great street protection or for $100 you can get what I picked up about a week ago the SPX Air carbon ignore the crappy reviews about the mesh fingers they only get stuck to the velcro if you aren't careful with where you grab with your thumb. If you don't think you need the extra airflow or aren't buying in a store like I was then buy the Alpinestar Celer gloves for 100 don't know if they flow air as well and the protection on the palm and ulna area isn't as good as the SPX Air carbons but they are still a great choice for the money. There's also Icon hypersports for 135, Held Sambias for 120 and after doing a lot of looking those are the gloves that are on my list for the next few years of riding if I need to replace a pair I will get another off the list. Gloves are very important and you can start out cheap if you are a beginner rider and you are playing it super safe but after 2 weeks I felt like as I pushed my boundaries and learned more it was time to get something that would really protect my hands and dropping $100 even as a part time employee was no big deal (BUT I also have a problem right now anything for the motorcycle as long as the math says I can afford it is worth it).
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There are many gloves from different brands for 80-100 bucks MUCH better than the fake Alpine Sraes
Sebastián Demaría Exactly Alpine stars specifically makes really good gloves that are 100-125 and It's an investment that if taken proper care of will last you 2-3 years and by then you should have easily made your money back.
Good points of course there are better value gloves than A* pros but I would make a couple points. I've had A*s celers (i paid £80 so I guess that would be around $120) and there were mesh with a bit or carbon on the knuckles. Take off the a*s logo and they'd be £30. There are cheaper brands (I now have Furygan fit-Rs that were £80 sale and I love them) but most people paying $60 for a* gloves must know they're fake and expect poorer quality and tbh in the video when they were cut open they were better than I would have expected. Compare to a branded $60 (if one exists) and the quality would be real similar
It would be interesting to compare those knock off gloves to equivalent 60$ real different model but real brand gloves. And those real to to cheaper.. just to see what the difference what are you paying for.
Pleas dont do that crapy talkshow bit, it just ruins the vid. its just not funny. but love the comparison, not that i ever wil buy safty gear from china...
Dress for the slide not the ride.... But while it was fun to watch these gloves cut apart it really didn't prove much. I'd like to see both of these go up against and abrasion over time test using calibrated force to actually see how these gloves compare to each other.
+gmctech Hey GMC, Thanks for watching our videos. We agree for sure...dress for the crash. In this video, we were trying to show that if the deal seems too good to be true, it probably is. That and the fact that there are companies out there that are making and selling gear that is a darn good copy visually. At a quick glance they seem like the real deal with all of the logos in the right place, and external features that appear accurate. If you held the fakes in this video, it wouldn't take a knowledgeable rider to spot them as frauds. That is the dangerous part. Many new riders and even some unsuspecting veteran riders would buy them "for a great price", and expect them to protect them in a crash scenario. That is the worst part. Companies are profiting by selling fraudulent safety apparel, with no concern for the outcome. As far as a abrasion test, there would truly be no comparison. Even worse would be the trauma to bones upon impact. The padding underneath the facade of armor was a joke. The box your computer came in had better foam in it. Again, thanks for watching our videos and the dialogue. You're a subscriber to our channel, right? Ride safe out there. BB.com!
Oh, I fully agree... just pointing out that an actual abrasion test would likely scare the beejeepers out of unseasoned riders. Last year a friend of mine showed up with a "brand new eBay wicked deal".... after a few hours of debate and research it was determined the helmet was a fake... scared me senseless to see a real life fake helmet. I grew up running Bell helmets and have no issue forking out half a grand on a modern brain bucket; but when I was presented with a new helmet retailing for $600 that was purchased for around $200 alarm bells went off in my mind and after lots of research and a quick reply from an email to the manufacturer it was determined to be fake.
There really doesn't look to be too much difference between the two, considering there is a $150 price difference. Although the fake one may not be leather it may still good abrasion resistance. I usually spend a lot on protective gear, but to be honest I would buy those fakes. How many people do you know who have had hand injuries because their glove disintegrated in a crash? Probably none.
Just shows how much these retailers have been ripping us off for years. BS bias comparison. If you're on a budget you're still better off getting gloves from Aliexpress. I've heavily used my Aliexpress Revit in snow and rain and they remained dry and warm.
I bought some cheap $20 chinese gloves that handle wet and cold very well. Thats not hard to achieve. But they will give you road rash if you hands go down because thats the part that makes a glove more expensive. Even the low end of decent brands you are spending less money because you are getting less protection. So I wouldn't count it as a win as much as you could have gotten the same quality from other brands at that same price point and sometimes even cheaper like the gloves in this video. You could get an Alpinestars glove that gives you the same perfomance at the same price. It just won't be a race level glove.
I would have replaced the talkshow "comedy" for things like tests on the material itself like hitting the knuckle with a hammer, trying to pull off a finger, setting them on fire It doesn't need to be "scientific" but basic pull and hit forces that you can moderately replicate on equal terms
I read an article on a BBC study testing knockoff yamaha pants. I wish I could find it for ya. Long story short the knockoff were rated to slide for less time than ece standards. Makes sense. Inferior construction quality and material makes .... drum roll please.... Inferior products!
of course the real one/more expensive is better........however if you are short on cash, the fake one is still pretty good....i rock the $60 one and its fairly well crafted. i think its worth it if you are not looking to spend much and accept that its not best quality. obviously more $$ gets you better quality.
Truthfully you should've just looked for a different brand/entry level glove instead of opting for faux leather, cheaply molded plastic and packing foam. Also deals on used gear aren't all that bad either if you're really short on cash.
@@RidewithRevin I have been using them for 2.5 yrs now. just the velcro part on my right wrist is going bad but im gona buy a new velcro piece from dollarstore and patch it on. The leather has been great. They feel great still.
Most people will need to cheap out in some part of the gear, if so gloves is a good place to cut corners but NEVER cheap out on: helmet, boots, or jacket. Those are the key 3 things you need top quality no matter what as even at low speed you can injure yourself pretty badly on your back, arms, shoulders, head and one of the most weak and most affected spots your foots and ankles. Also the gloves part is not THAT much of a help... even knock off gloves will help you out if you can't afford the real thing, if you crash at regular low speed (20~40kmph) it will help you out, if you crash at any higher speeds not golden made gloves will save your from that...... also if that does happens your hands will be the last thing you will be worrying about.
Oh Man, I almost 'invested' in a pair of knock offs, and over here (in Malaysia) they actually cost as much just to fool ya into thinkg they're the real deal - Good thing I used Ur reference points and caught e Fakie. Bought e Real Deal at another place later - Can't Thank You enuf Man !!! 🙏 BTW, Loved e Talk show - Only Fakies (stingein on data) wud hate it or think it's unnecessary 😆
Afro Rider Hey AfroRider,Thanks for the kind words, the feedback, and for watching our videos. We appreciate it very much. If you've got any other ideas or products you want to see de-constructed, feel free to let us know. You remembered to subscribe, right?
I loved this video.. it was fun and funny it also just saved me from buying those gloves... I was just about to do it.. but I wanted to see if there was any reviews about the "fakes"... my hands are worth more than $60.00
Glad you were able to watch the video before losing your hard earned $$. If it looks too good to be true, lots of times it is. If you're looking to save a buck, check out our blowouts. There is plenty of great gear at super discounted prices.
+Christian Leonardo Vergara Marin Hey there CLVM,The machine that tests abrasion is called a Martindale machine, and they run well into the thousands of dollars. Although we'd love to be able to have one of those machines, I think we'd have a hard time getting that past the folks in accounting. Thanks for watching our videos. We're glad you found it both educational as well as entertaining. You're a subscriber to our channel, right?
+BikeBandit hello, you may be able to do such abrasion test with no fancy machine... simply rig the gloves to a frame and have them drag on the asphalt while you drive in a parking lot.... a topic that I would like to see is how much do the real gloves actually cost to produce.... because to me they do seem way overpriced... also note that no motorcycle glove offers a real wrist guard
+Robert Ostman also I wonder if you could teach us how to manufacture our own gloves... this starting from a set of less expensive gloves and add the parts by hand till the glove is as good as the fancy ones if not even better!
+Christian Leonardo Vergara Marin I have buy gp pro gloves of aliexpress and mine are great.My gloves aliexpress of 100% genuine leather. I can not confirm that as alleged in the video it will be artificial leather. not all sellers are selling the same good gloves, best buy with a lot of good reviews. a buddy has bought and he even had an accident on the racetrack and his hands were uninjured.he have now buy the alpinestars gp tech from aliexpress and they have full kevlar. I could not believe when I saw you. He have 82$ paid for these gloves. next week i also buy this gp tech.82$ for those gloves you can not say anything. and the leather is genuine 100%.
john montana i have buy the S1 alpinestar gloves from aliexpress, are made very well with 100% leather and amazing quality (i make fire test and pass very very good). So yeah, its true that this are replicas, but not for that are necessary bad gloves, it depend of the seller. Could you pass me the link of the gloves that you said? thanks.
I saw the video and it had me thinking. Wtf was i watching. I even had to check the video twice and check the comments to make sure i wasn't tripping but overall good content
They might not be as good and offer the same protection as the real ones but do they offer the same protection as cheaper real gloves from the same brand or different brands? i.e. would the fake GP Tech offer similar protection to the real GP plus? I think you need to compare quality from a price by price comparison or some other comparison.
Neil Appleby Hey Neil,When it comes to motorcycle apparel, just see it as an investment. Quality components make for a quality product. Think of a wooden bridge. Good wood but shoddy hardware...FAIL. Shoddy wood but good hardware...FAIL. All of the pieces need to be high quality. Where the price tag comes from more exotic hides (kangaroo), more exotic armor (titanium/carbon fiber) and quality thread such as polyester core thread (polyester core for strength wrapped in cotton for heat resistance and a solid bite into the material). That's where the fakes take advantage of things. They make things look like they're quality on the outside, but it's the inside materials are inferior, and consumers are fooled. If I had just $60 for gloves, I'd buy the AStars SP-3's that are on special right now, as opposed to the flagship fakes. There will be other videos soon, along those same lines. Thanks again for watching our videos and the feedback. You remembered to subscribe to our channel, right?
Hi +Harish Kumar. Thanks for taking the time and watching the video. We're not distributors for Furygan Gloves so it might be a little harder to get them to donate a set to us for a video like this. We'll look into it though. Since you took the time to commend on our video and give some feedback, please enjoy 5% off your next purchase with us by using code TH-cam5 (std. exclusions apply). Thanks again!
I like the review but I absolutely hate the fake Jerry Springer BS. With this being said, I would like to know more information about picking out Alpinestar boots. Almost all of them I've seen or made out of some sort of fake leather. Does that mean that all their boots that I'm finding or fake? My last pair I had had actual leather. Now everything I'm finding is some sort of synthetic garbage.
i didnt finished this video yet. i dont know which of these are real... but i will buy this gloves soon and if i can find it from you cheaper i will go for you man. Thank for the video!
+Lala TheCat Hey Lala,If you haven't finished the video, we won't spoil it for you. We just want everyone to know that there are imposters out there, with no regard for your safety, and to us, that's just irresponsible. There are other adjectives we have to describe their business practices, but we also have a mixed audience.We appreciate you watching our videos, your support, and your business. Ride safe out there. You're a subscriber to our channel, right?
Next, could you compare these knock offs to a cheaper set of gloves that you sell? I'm not surprised in the least that they don't hold up to the craftsmanship of the genuine article, but are they "good enough" for any riding scenario or are they complete crap in all scenarios?
I see this question pop up now a couple times and I'll give the same response in hopes of saving fellow riders. BBC did a study testing knockoff yamaha pants. Spoiler alert they didn't meet ece standards. I think any certified garmet from a real manufacturer if likely safer than a knockoff. It has to be. It met the certification. $20 ce certified glove vs $60 knockoff glove who definitely didn't get any ce certs? All gloves have different levels of protection and im sure the 20 dollar glove can't hold a candle to Knox gauntlet but at least it had some kind of testing. Knockoffs you just have no idea. I mean he said it's definitely not leather. Then what is it? It might not even be abrasion resistant and it could shred like paper. Idk knockoffs scare me after seeing this. These knockoffs look better and better all the time
That's one way to show it, but actually cutting them open to see the differences of the construction is much more informative. you get to see why one is better than the other with the fine details. Thank you for the comment though.
Mine don't so I went to the Astars website and noticed 3 of the schemes don't including the black/white/red combo like I have and the black as well as the black/white/yellow. Not sure why the other busier designs do. Bought mine from revzilla and they came in the legit packaging as shown in this video so you can't use the Ktech logo as a guide.
I'm finding the use of lead in lots of cheap products made in China. I just found a warning tag in my new "cheap" car cover. Did you test any of the fabrics or colors for lead?
+crunchers9 Hey C9, Nope, we did not do a lead test either the fabrics or the color for lead. We were mainly going after the materials used and the method of construction. Interesting point you bring up though. Thanks for watching our videos and the comment. Ride safe! BB.com
I bought some Chinese gloves and I think it is best to pay the extra and get the real things. Even if you buy Pakistani gloves. They have a part that looks like fiberglass until it breaks and you see it is plastic with paper inside. Imagine that in a crash. I am happy for this video.
***** Before you scream murder make sure there is a crime. Go and look at the Pakistani motorcycle gear before you judge. gpimoto.com/Motorbike-Leather-Garments/Leather-Racing-Suits I use to use a pair as my first leather gloves now I use Scorpion Mk II
+Ruben87 xx Hey Ruben,Stay tuned. We're always coming up with new content. Thanks for watching our videos and the comment. You remembered to subscribe to our channel, right?
*runs to shelf where I keep my aplinestar gloves* *presses to nose and inhales deeply* mmmmm cow. *looks with a sideways glance at puma 1000's in the corner*
+Shi Zi good question. Some people may just look at the stitching and feel that they can live with that one flaw, but once seeing the hidden differences they are convinced to purchase the real thing and not get taken on some cheap imitation. Thanks for the comment! Here's 5% off your next purchase at BikeBandit when you use promo code TH-cam5 at checkout (std exclusions apply)
+Tom in HK Hey Tom, My best analogy would be something like this re: the $60 gloves shown here...a first grade child with a black belt in karate. Really. The kid might have a black belt, and received great training, but in a practical application setting, really how effective will the kid be. Yes, they are a black belt, but perhaps there is a false sense of security there as well. Take a look at some of the gloves that have recently gone to "close-out". This is the perfect time of year to buy last years gear at a fantastic deal. A great example would be the Scorpion EXO Guardian gloves: full leather construction, hard knuckles armor, a few colors to choose from, etc. and they're just over $50! Lots of good options out there for sure. Now, hitting the ground in the fakes with their material (we're still not sure what they're made from) questionable thread material, and a facade of an armor complement...well that's just too much of a gamble to take. As with anything, if something seems too good to be true....it probably is. Thanks for watching our videos and the question. Ride safe. BB.com
You are paying for the name, not for added safety. I can guarantee you with either glove, you will be protected in some cases, and in others you are fucked anyway.
amigo aqui no BRASIL, uma luva dessas chegaa custar 1300 reais, e no aliexpress com todos os impostos que e de 60% ela custaria 224 reais, sendo assim eu ficaria com a fake, mas entendo suas colocações, ate concordo porem nao teria como uma pessoa pensar e mcomprar com essa diferença gigantesca
Wondering how all those passionately defending the fake ones would feel about copyright infringement if they owned a company and created a product that someone made an inferior copy of?
I cant understand defending the fakes either. Don't get me wrong I've contemplated buying wish and aliexpress gear before then I think wait... I need this to save me. I can't afford the $250 glove either I get it but Jesus there's dozen of gloves far cheaper that are the real deal tested and certified to protect u? Why is gear so expensive? Ur paying for that testing in part. The knockoffs just take the design and do none of the testing. Knockoff stuff just seems like murky waters to me. Idk to each their own but I wouldn't be caught dead in fake gear I know might need to save my ass one day. I get the whole woah look at my awesome gear. Same thing as designer bags tho. U know dam well it's a fake and when someone figures out ur gear is fake you'll be as embarrassed as the girl with the knock off Gucci bag lol.
+Wise Fool Hey WF, Sorry to stress you out, but we had to cut those up to make the point that there are fakes and frauds in the marketplace, that are trying to pass off cheap copies as the genuine article, all the while compromising the safety of your fellow riders. To us that is wrong on so many levels. Although we know that you would have cherished the gloves, they made a valiant sacrifice for all. Thanks for watching our videos and the comment. You're a subscriber to our channel, right? Ride safe out there. BB.com!
It sure looks like the fake ones knuckle foam that you call cheap is identicle to the alpine stars impact area foam. And this video was kind of pointless, all it tells you is that one is fake. It in know way shows which one would actually be better in a crash. Saying the real one has ridges inside the knuckle so its better? Take both of them to a belt sander and video it. That would be more of a test as opposed to just saying this is cheap over and over.
Does anyone of you know the brand Ixon? I'd be interested in one of their (don't know the English word) jackets (the Eager), which costs around 150 euros... Pretty low price, even if also Dainese and Alpinestars do jackets for that money (190 euros or more)... Don't know if trust them or not...
+Aksel “DukeFleed” Newt Hey DF, Be do know the brand IXON. They make nice gear for sure, but we aren't offering their gear at the present time, so we can't offer up any more information regarding their products. Sorry about that. We do offer, Alpinestars, Spidi, Rev'It, and other brands as well. Feel free to ask us questions about any of these brands, as we know much more about them. Thanks for watching our videos and the question. You're a subscriber to our channel, right? Ride safe. BB.com!
BikeBandit Thanks! In the end, in the shop, today i saw an Alpinestars T-GP Plus R Air Jacket ( www.alpinestars.com/t-gp-plus-r-air-jacket#.Vyj0i2MYFmA ) and i fell in love. Had a good discount and i got it! Just perfect
so dont buy italian or american brand knock offs off aliexpress. get asian brands like rs taichi or komine. theyre the real thing, better designed, look better, and are just if not more protective.
Traian Olinescu Hey Traian,eBay is a tempting place to buy stuff for sure, as some of the deals are pretty spectacular for sure.Here's an easy way to make sure that you're getting the genuine article and great pricing. Buy from us at BikeBandit.com. Plus anything over $99, your order ships for free. Thanks for watching our videos and for the comment. You remembered to subscribe to our channel, right? Ride safe!
Why would anyone knowingly buy a knockoff? It would be like a buying a fiberglass Cobra with a Volkswagen engine and somehow thinking you have the real thing. I'm amazed by the number of people who readily admit they would. My guess is that most of the comments saying they would buy a knockoff are from children or tweens that have no understanding of how the world works. I'm surprised they were able to view the video in between their watching lady gaga vids or other children streaming them playing video games. Brilliant vid BB.
Good production quality, wear good gear but you're high if you think either of these are gonna make a real difference in a serious accident, yes ATGATT but more importantly ride to survive,
Hey Sargeant, Thanks for the props on the video production. We appreciate you watching them and the positive feedback. Now, where we're going to disagree with you is on the protective capabilities of these gloves in a serious accident. Remember, especially with gloves, more armor, thicker leather, and strategically placed sliders, etc...more is better. There is however the delicate balance of protection and dexterity. We've got employees here that have had triple digit speed crashes, and walked away with not a scratch on them. One guy in particular here, destroyed an Arai Corsair, a Spidi kangaroo suit, Spidi Penta gloves, flattened his back protector, and scuffed up his boots pretty good. Essentially wasted about $3500-$4000 in gear (the suit was $2000) but in the end he walked away. Not so much as a scratch. So was it really a waste? We think not. There are no guarantees when it comes to crash scenarios, but you have a much better chance of minimizing you injuries with high end gear. Look at the guys on the MotoGP circuit. They rarely crash, but when they do...it's not just a silly tip over. Anyways, we agree that ATGATT is smart thinking. Thanks again for watching our videos, and the continued support. Also, if you really are a Sgt., thank you for you service. You're a subscriber to our channel, right? Ride safe. BB.com!
BikeBandit you know what, you're right, if a crash happens, im sure as hell gonna make sure im as well protected as possible, Looking back i dont even know what i said what I said...
I agree with gear being worth it I went into the hospital because my appendix was about to burst had it removed and stayed the night guess how much the bill was? $24,000 I mean holy fuck I'm 21 if my dad didn't work at that hospital and we didn't have such good insurance I would be in a fuckin good bit of debt. So now imagine a motorcycle crash with shit gear broken hands, maybe a foot, rib, road rash, etc. All the stuff they have to do to put you back together (not to mention potential future surgeries if thinks don't sit right) and probably multiple days in the hospital on top of the ambulance ride you are looking at a whopping bill that will probably cost you 10x what the gear did. ATGATT and good gear at that.
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REAL problem the one you have in the states with public health, may be the biggest social problem, and guns of course..
found Alpinestars and Dainese one piece leather suit on Kijiji guy has a storage unit full of brand new gear of all sorts all knockoffs buyer beware $1000 suit for $500
I have 2 pair of Exellent "fake gloves", comfortable , no cheap stitches , good quality material , real leather ... so , I don´t know where you buy the "fake gloves" appeared on your video ...my fake gloves are very different in Quality , maybe not perfect but very good ... you are Lying for a few dolars ....very Bad four you !!!
I really enjoyed the video :D The reality show idea was reaaally funny and the dude talks like a pro presenter, not lame as those on revzilla and sportbike track gear. Also the idea of butchering the gloves is kind of awkard, but did the job for me. BIG LIKE :D
+malangamba Hey malangamba,Thanks for the kind words on the video and the entire production. We thought is was worthwhile, to show consumers of motorcycle apparel, that there are frauds out in the marketplace. Cutting up a pair of $250 gloves was what it took to get that message across, and it has been well received. We've had nothing but a great response to this video, and our other Bandit Garage videos as well.Thanks again for the positive feedback. We appreciate you watching our videos and your business. You remembered to subscribe to our channel, right? Ride safe. BB.com
Lol not in a fall it's not I had cheap gloves before the Alpinestar SPX air carbons that I picked up recently and oh my god the difference is scary compared to the Speed and Strength gloves that I sent back before settling on some cheap AGVsports while I kept looking around and the Astars is legit. They 1 downside is that you definitely feel like you are wearing a glove unlike the gloves I tried on before. Seeing how much we use our hands on a day to day basis I'll happily spend 100, 120, 135, 175 on a good glove.
Joting Rai Read your own comment. I'm saying that in a fall the real gloves are not too expensive they are just right for what they will do for your hands.
+Spartacuss1000 Hey S1000, First let me translate your comment...thanks to the guy on the video , I thought to buy gp pro china . but now I changed my mind .. taking only need the original. Glad that you found the video helpful. Always best to buy gear from an authorized retailer. That way you know that your getting authentic products. Thanks for watching our videos. Ride safe out there. Remember to subscribe please. Thanks.
+BikeBandit я с вами полностью согласен :) очень хорошо что на ютюбе есть такие парни как вы , которые объективно показывают отличие оригинала от подделки , и теперь благодаря вашему видео я смогу легко отличить оригинал от подделки . p.s подписка на ваш канал уже оформлена :) буду и дальше наблюдать за вашими видео . Удачной работы и успехов :)
+Jessie Valdez Hey Jessie, We can talk anything you like: Scotch, motorcycle gloves, diamonds, or power tools. The good stuff will always cost more. Always. Companies that produce high end motorcycle apparel spend millions of dollars testing their products, making sure that their customers get the finest quality, the safest design, and the best materials for the money. Alpinestars sponsors the fastest guys on the planet, and those riders come back with input on how to make the product better. The MotoGP is the highest level of roadracing. Of the last 10 years, 8 of those years, the World Champions (Hayden, Stoner, Lorenzo and Marquez) wore Alpinestars. They are your product development team. Think of it that way. Sure you have choices when it comes to gear. They make gloves with only half of the fingers covered. They make helmets that only cover the top of your head. You can choose to ride in denim jeans and sneakers if you like. When you look at the top tier products, expect to find the price tag to go with it. We sell gloves at all price points, but if anyone thinks that they're getting the finest glove for $70, well, we both know that's simply not the case. Thanks for watching our videos. You're a subscriber to our channel, right? Ride safe out there. BB.com!
+BikeBandit Agree with you there, quality means more R&D time spent coming up with a procedure. There could be GMP, QA, QC, SOP's involved in making products. I save my money and buy quality gear for riding since it's my life im protecting. Good quality doesn't come cheap. I work in production of medicine, and guys a lot of work, time, effort, planning goes into making a quality product. Sometimes I do 73 hour weeks just so we meet quota for the medicine we make for Hemophiliacs, and we are just one step out of many.
The Real also produced in China ;-D The Difference is, that Alpinestars sees no money... 60 bucks is the real price... the other 240 bucks more for the "Real" is the money alpinestars earn ;-)
Nope wont go for made in China anything especially legit race gloves with the highest protection (when you go down with an SBK you'll know why this is the only glove to wear...actually 240 isnt bad because in reality these should be available only to factory racers.
Hey AM, It's always nice when others understand the concept of investment. We've had some folks comment on the fact that $250 is WAY out of line when it comes to a pair of gloves. We think not. When you're looking at a glove of this caliber, you're talking about the finest materials, the countless hours of R&D that goes into them, and the fact that they have an amazing balance of safety with full functionality, and are available to the retail public, makes them worth every penny. Thanks for watching our videos and the positive feedback. You're a subscriber to our channel, right? Ride safe. BB.com!
For 60 bucks, I'll prefer the Chinese any day of the week. Also the differences are so small that don't justify the price variation. Originals are made in Thailand.Thailands didn't build the scenic wall(the only man made structure that can be seen from space), the Chinese did.
+bladimir kroutska Hey BK, We're not here to argue, and the beauty of this world is that you can choose to wear whatever you want to when you ride your motorcycle, even nothing at all. Totally your call. There are $60 genuine gloves that will protect you better than $60 frauds. It's not so much as where it's made (here we're talking about gloves) but this can be anything you like. It's the ingredients. If you use mediocre ingredients, you get a mediocre product. We can agree on that hopefully. Our problem is that you have businesses that are trying to pass off frauds as the real deal, that can be had for a bargain, and it's peoples safety we're talking about here. You want to drink lousy Scotch, go for it. It just tastes kind of blah, but it's still booze. Having someone expect to fall off a motorcycle and still be safe is just wrong. Now, your GWoChina parallel is just silly. You realize that it took 9 YEARS just to build the original section, right? What you know as the "whole wall" (which really wasn't a complete project took another 11, and the wall that you know today was actually completed over several hundred years, over 1000 years after the project even started. The motivation was to protect the Chinese from the warring Mongols approaching from the South. Imagine if the Chinese Dynasty at the time "sold" the idea of a wall to the populace as a barrier of safety, and then built it out of marshmallows. That's a closer parallel to your glove/cost idea.
O.k.Then explain this to me please. I just bought a pair of boots these days(the Tech 5s' to be exact) and they are made of leather,synthetic leather, and rubber. The boots weight about twelve times more than the gloves do, and both are made from the same materials. How come the gloves cost more than the boots?Do they make coffee or something? And what I said about the scenic wall is not a parallelism ,it's a statement.I' m not into why they build it,when they started building it,if they stopped and continued after a thousand years. I just stated that it's the only man made costruction that can be seen from space and it's Chinese. I don't have anything against Thailand.I am a Thai-box athlete myself and I love Thai people and I go crazy about Thai food.
+bladimir kroutska Hey BK, So, your boots weigh 12x what your gloves do because they're about 12x the size. There are buckles and a steel shank internally that adds weight, however with the gloves, it's smaller components and thus harder to make, hence the higher cost. If they make coffee, awesome! Here's an interesting fact about high-end motorcycle gear. Did you know that only Japanese women assemble Arai helmets? The men make the shells, and the women because of their smaller hands, and more attention to detail in the application of graphics, vents, etc. assemble the final product. We will agree with you 100% that Thai food is wonderful. Anyways, most importantly, enjoy your ride. Ride safe and thanks for the dialogue. BB.com!
+BikeBandit Actually I didn't know that, thanks, but I remember in the late 80's my friends at school were mocking me because my father owned a Japanese car, and a few years later when they graduated from high scool, most of them got Japanese cars. Thank you, too for the conversation!
$60 compared to $240 is really quite a difference though isn't it? I can buy 4 pairs! I might not skimp on the helmet quality but gloves? Humm... I think the knock offs are still WAY BETTER than what was available even just a few years ago and I still have both my hands so... Just saying-
I would have found more value in some kind of test. Taking them apart will show you that the knockoff is inferior, but it doesn't tell you how it would hold up on the typical low side slide. I don't think the majority of crashes happen at a higher speed, so I'd be curious at the point of failure on the knock offs.
Hi Tommy,
Thanks for chiming in, that is definitely a good idea.... a little destructive testing never hurts. Well... maybe sometimes.
I saw an article that did a study on knockoff yamaha riding pants by the BBC I believe. The yamaha pants were rated to slide for 3 seconds after testing. Ece standards are 5+. Don't quote me on the standards. I skimmed the article but u get the idea. Inferior material and craftsmanship that's not up to modern safety standards. Going down sucks pretty bad even in real gear. That extra 2 seconds for some extra cash sounds pretty alright to me at this point lol.
I would assume just by the fact that cheaper gloves already exist from good companies that are making them less protective to fit a price point would already tell you that the cheaper one isn't going to be as good. You would be able to compare it to a glove that is build with similar material. Which would mean in some cases it would still work street riding but not for street riding since fake leather doesn't offer good protection at high speeds.
The talking gloves and show crap was kinda dumb. Might want to think about taking it out.
Ohh look! Entertainment experts
John Rolfson i enjoyed it lol
I liked it too.
I didn't care either.... good thing I can do something real COOL! which is: FAST FORWARD THE VIDEO! who knew?!
Victor Irias He's entitled to an a opinion, just like i am 'prick'
the whole talk show stuff was dumb.
Yeah, earned this video a down thumb.
PRD7 totally dumb! I feel like fast forward all those stupid shit
@@jamesmmm I did, and watched the vid in 4 minutes.
Good review spoilt by crappy humor
I know it was expensive making this video, but it was exactly what I looked for, 10 years ago I wouldn't have dreamed of anything coming near such attempts people trying to make for gear that can save your life. If I wouldn't have seen this video I proby would have bought a cheap pair thinking it would save my ass like the real ones. Definitely what I was looking for and worth every dime opening them up, much thanks stay healthy!
This video helps a lot not only to spot the difference between real and fake gloves but also gives you clues how to check cheaper genuine gloves.
+wowerman Hey Wow,We're glad you enjoyed the video, and found it helpful too. In such a competitive world, most of the time, if it seems too good to be true, it most likely is. There are some really good copies out there for sure, but to profit on the potential risk of another, is just unethical and irresponsible. Thanks for watching our videos and your business. You remembered to subscribe, right?Ride safe out there.BB.com
Id rather save money and get the fakes they still look as cool and i can tell people they were more expensive and girls will be impressed and if i crash and my hands get mangled il just grow a new pair for free
I always get comments on my Sidi Vortice boots when I ride, on how they look like ski boots and make a lot of noise when I walk. People sometimes ask how much they go for, They are $495. I get a lot of odd looks, I just reply with the well $495 is an investment, if I don't wear them and I crash the chances of a broken leg is way higher with out the boots and hospital bills will be many times more than the boots cost. Hell the ambulance ride will be two to three times more then the boots cost. Wear your gear fellas, 5 extra minutes is worth saving your self road rash, broken bones or possible paralysis.
+xavier415
Hey X415,
I too have a couple pairs of Vortices, and yup I've crashed in them. Walked away without a scratch. Are they a bit squeaky? Yup. That's a small price to pay for articulating ankles armatures. Try a little bit a silicone spray (Armor-All) on a Q-tip, and apply that to where the plastic pieces rub over each other. We find that helps. Knowing that you're wearing the finest product, from a company that doesn't make anything but footwear, has been doing it since the 1960's, and what the fastest guys on the planet wear...well that's just nothing reassurance. Why do they look like ski boots? Dino Signori (flip the firs two letters of each word to see where the company got their name) is the founder of Sidi. He is the inventor of the rear-entry ski boot. So there you have it!
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+Yogi me Advice if you wanna take it. Riding slow/responsibly/safe won't save you from the carelessness of others around you. If you get away from people you still have to contend with nature. Ride with the best gear you can.
Really interesting. Thanks for destroying one genuine pair to show us in detail what the differences are.
I get the point you're making but for people who can't afford the extortionate prices of top A* gear this basically demonstrates that for the price the $60 gloves are not too bad. Any gloves better than no gloves
Hey AT,
First things first, thanks for watching our videos and the comment. Now, as far as ever riding with no gloves, that's just dumb. The way we're wired, we put our hands out when we fall, be it over the cat, on the garden hose, or off a motorcycle. Our problem with the fraud gloves, is that they're profiting by taking advantage of you, the consumer who's thinking that they're going to be protected in a crash scenario, and they're doing it with inferior materials. Just for giggles, I went to the Ali Xpress and typed in Alpinestars GP Pro. Not even $40. This is a glove that retails for $240. Anyone who thinks that they're getting a current genuine leather glove for almost %85 off is just naive. Anyways, ride safe, see good gear as an investment, and have fun. Subscribe if you haven't, OK. BB.com!
If you can't afford the GP pro's get the GPX's they are a mid cuff design at 130 dollars they offer great street protection or for $100 you can get what I picked up about a week ago the SPX Air carbon ignore the crappy reviews about the mesh fingers they only get stuck to the velcro if you aren't careful with where you grab with your thumb. If you don't think you need the extra airflow or aren't buying in a store like I was then buy the Alpinestar Celer gloves for 100 don't know if they flow air as well and the protection on the palm and ulna area isn't as good as the SPX Air carbons but they are still a great choice for the money. There's also Icon hypersports for 135, Held Sambias for 120 and after doing a lot of looking those are the gloves that are on my list for the next few years of riding if I need to replace a pair I will get another off the list. Gloves are very important and you can start out cheap if you are a beginner rider and you are playing it super safe but after 2 weeks I felt like as I pushed my boundaries and learned more it was time to get something that would really protect my hands and dropping $100 even as a part time employee was no big deal (BUT I also have a problem right now anything for the motorcycle as long as the math says I can afford it is worth it).
There are many gloves from different brands for 80-100 bucks MUCH better than the fake Alpine Sraes
Sebastián Demaría Exactly Alpine stars specifically makes really good gloves that are 100-125 and It's an investment that if taken proper care of will last you 2-3 years and by then you should have easily made your money back.
Good points of course there are better value gloves than A* pros but I would make a couple points. I've had A*s celers (i paid £80 so I guess that would be around $120) and there were mesh with a bit or carbon on the knuckles. Take off the a*s logo and they'd be £30. There are cheaper brands (I now have Furygan fit-Rs that were £80 sale and I love them) but most people paying $60 for a* gloves must know they're fake and expect poorer quality and tbh in the video when they were cut open they were better than I would have expected. Compare to a branded $60 (if one exists) and the quality would be real similar
It would be interesting to compare those knock off gloves to equivalent 60$ real different model but real brand gloves. And those real to to cheaper.. just to see what the difference what are you paying for.
Pleas dont do that crapy talkshow bit, it just ruins the vid. its just not funny. but love the comparison, not that i ever wil buy safty gear from china...
Theres one sad Alpine glove all alone wondering where its partner went.
Dress for the slide not the ride.... But while it was fun to watch these gloves cut apart it really didn't prove much. I'd like to see both of these go up against and abrasion over time test using calibrated force to actually see how these gloves compare to each other.
+gmctech
Hey GMC,
Thanks for watching our videos. We agree for sure...dress for the crash. In this video, we were trying to show that if the deal seems too good to be true, it probably is. That and the fact that there are companies out there that are making and selling gear that is a darn good copy visually. At a quick glance they seem like the real deal with all of the logos in the right place, and external features that appear accurate. If you held the fakes in this video, it wouldn't take a knowledgeable rider to spot them as frauds. That is the dangerous part. Many new riders and even some unsuspecting veteran riders would buy them "for a great price", and expect them to protect them in a crash scenario. That is the worst part. Companies are profiting by selling fraudulent safety apparel, with no concern for the outcome. As far as a abrasion test, there would truly be no comparison. Even worse would be the trauma to bones upon impact. The padding underneath the facade of armor was a joke. The box your computer came in had better foam in it.
Again, thanks for watching our videos and the dialogue. You're a subscriber to our channel, right? Ride safe out there. BB.com!
Oh, I fully agree... just pointing out that an actual abrasion test would likely scare the beejeepers out of unseasoned riders. Last year a friend of mine showed up with a "brand new eBay wicked deal".... after a few hours of debate and research it was determined the helmet was a fake... scared me senseless to see a real life fake helmet. I grew up running Bell helmets and have no issue forking out half a grand on a modern brain bucket; but when I was presented with a new helmet retailing for $600 that was purchased for around $200 alarm bells went off in my mind and after lots of research and a quick reply from an email to the manufacturer it was determined to be fake.
There really doesn't look to be too much difference between the two, considering there is a $150 price difference. Although the fake one may not be leather it may still good abrasion resistance. I usually spend a lot on protective gear, but to be honest I would buy those fakes. How many people do you know who have had hand injuries because their glove disintegrated in a crash? Probably none.
Nick Cardillo nothing is as good as leather at abbrasion resistance except for Lorica which Sidi uses
Just shows how much these retailers have been ripping us off for years. BS bias comparison. If you're on a budget you're still better off getting gloves from Aliexpress. I've heavily used my Aliexpress Revit in snow and rain and they remained dry and warm.
I bought some cheap $20 chinese gloves that handle wet and cold very well. Thats not hard to achieve. But they will give you road rash if you hands go down because thats the part that makes a glove more expensive. Even the low end of decent brands you are spending less money because you are getting less protection. So I wouldn't count it as a win as much as you could have gotten the same quality from other brands at that same price point and sometimes even cheaper like the gloves in this video. You could get an Alpinestars glove that gives you the same perfomance at the same price. It just won't be a race level glove.
I would have replaced the talkshow "comedy" for things like tests on the material itself
like hitting the knuckle with a hammer, trying to pull off a finger, setting them on fire
It doesn't need to be "scientific" but basic pull and hit forces that you can moderately replicate on equal terms
I read an article on a BBC study testing knockoff yamaha pants. I wish I could find it for ya. Long story short the knockoff were rated to slide for less time than ece standards. Makes sense. Inferior construction quality and material makes .... drum roll please.... Inferior products!
you jumped the shark when the gloves started talking ala Jerry Springer
Awesome, relatively non-biased review/comparison. Can you guys please PLEASE do more of these? With more recent models.
of course the real one/more expensive is better........however if you are short on cash, the fake one is still pretty good....i rock the $60 one and its fairly well crafted. i think its worth it if you are not looking to spend much and accept that its not best quality. obviously more $$ gets you better quality.
Truthfully you should've just looked for a different brand/entry level glove instead of opting for faux leather, cheaply molded plastic and packing foam. Also deals on used gear aren't all that bad either if you're really short on cash.
how durable is it ? how long have you been using those ? and are they waterproof or not ??
@@RidewithRevin I have been using them for 2.5 yrs now. just the velcro part on my right wrist is going bad but im gona buy a new velcro piece from dollarstore and patch it on. The leather has been great. They feel great still.
Take out this humour,and you have a good video
I really liked the humor
It was also a really informative video
Most people will need to cheap out in some part of the gear, if so gloves is a good place to cut corners but NEVER cheap out on: helmet, boots, or jacket. Those are the key 3 things you need top quality no matter what as even at low speed you can injure yourself pretty badly on your back, arms, shoulders, head and one of the most weak and most affected spots your foots and ankles.
Also the gloves part is not THAT much of a help... even knock off gloves will help you out if you can't afford the real thing, if you crash at regular low speed (20~40kmph) it will help you out, if you crash at any higher speeds not golden made gloves will save your from that...... also if that does happens your hands will be the last thing you will be worrying about.
My real Astars had seam came lose after 3 track day, not good imo.
Why have I just spent my time watching gloves argue.
Oh Man, I almost 'invested' in a pair of knock offs, and over here (in Malaysia) they actually cost as much just to fool ya into thinkg they're the real deal - Good thing I used Ur reference points and caught e Fakie. Bought e Real Deal at another place later - Can't Thank You enuf Man !!! 🙏
BTW, Loved e Talk show - Only Fakies (stingein on data) wud hate it or think it's unnecessary 😆
Great Video, More people need to make those kind of videos
Afro Rider Hey AfroRider,Thanks for the kind words, the feedback, and for watching our videos. We appreciate it very much. If you've got any other ideas or products you want to see de-constructed, feel free to let us know. You remembered to subscribe, right?
Idk why this guy reminds me of my dad... Thats why I liked the video
Do the tags/label inside the gloves look the same?
I loved this video.. it was fun and funny it also just saved me from buying those gloves... I was just about to do it.. but I wanted to see if there was any reviews about the "fakes"... my hands are worth more than $60.00
Glad you were able to watch the video before losing your hard earned $$. If it looks too good to be true, lots of times it is. If you're looking to save a buck, check out our blowouts. There is plenty of great gear at super discounted prices.
Aliexpress has them for 38 bucks, now.
Link please lol
Nice video, and funny. I would like to see an abrassion test. Thanks
+Christian Leonardo Vergara Marin Hey there CLVM,The machine that tests abrasion is called a Martindale machine, and they run well into the thousands of dollars. Although we'd love to be able to have one of those machines, I think we'd have a hard time getting that past the folks in accounting. Thanks for watching our videos. We're glad you found it both educational as well as entertaining. You're a subscriber to our channel, right?
+BikeBandit hello, you may be able to do such abrasion test with no fancy machine... simply rig the gloves to a frame and have them drag on the asphalt while you drive in a parking lot.... a topic that I would like to see is how much do the real gloves actually cost to produce.... because to me they do seem way overpriced... also note that no motorcycle glove offers a real wrist guard
+Robert Ostman also I wonder if you could teach us how to manufacture our own gloves... this starting from a set of less expensive gloves and add the parts by hand till the glove is as good as the fancy ones if not even better!
+Christian Leonardo Vergara Marin I have buy gp pro gloves of aliexpress and mine are great.My gloves aliexpress of 100% genuine leather. I can not confirm that as alleged in the video it will be artificial leather. not all sellers are selling the same good gloves, best buy with a lot of good reviews. a buddy has bought and he even had an accident on the racetrack and his hands were uninjured.he have now buy the alpinestars gp tech from aliexpress and they have full kevlar. I could not believe when I saw you. He have 82$ paid for these gloves. next week i also buy this gp tech.82$ for those gloves you can not say anything. and the leather is genuine 100%.
john montana i have buy the S1 alpinestar gloves from aliexpress, are made very well with 100% leather and amazing quality (i make fire test and pass very very good). So yeah, its true that this are replicas, but not for that are necessary bad gloves, it depend of the seller. Could you pass me the link of the gloves that you said? thanks.
I saw the video and it had me thinking. Wtf was i watching. I even had to check the video twice and check the comments to make sure i wasn't tripping but overall good content
Wow! I'm shocked by the amount of "fake" gear/materials are allowed to be sold on the internet as "real"!
So would the fake gloves be better then a 50$ pair of bilt gloves ?
No dude probably not.
They might not be as good and offer the same protection as the real ones but do they offer the same protection as cheaper real gloves from the same brand or different brands? i.e. would the fake GP Tech offer similar protection to the real GP plus?
I think you need to compare quality from a price by price comparison or some other comparison.
Neil Appleby Hey Neil,When it comes to motorcycle apparel, just see it as an investment. Quality components make for a quality product. Think of a wooden bridge. Good wood but shoddy hardware...FAIL. Shoddy wood but good hardware...FAIL. All of the pieces need to be high quality. Where the price tag comes from more exotic hides (kangaroo), more exotic armor (titanium/carbon fiber) and quality thread such as polyester core thread (polyester core for strength wrapped in cotton for heat resistance and a solid bite into the material). That's where the fakes take advantage of things. They make things look like they're quality on the outside, but it's the inside materials are inferior, and consumers are fooled. If I had just $60 for gloves, I'd buy the AStars SP-3's that are on special right now, as opposed to the flagship fakes. There will be other videos soon, along those same lines. Thanks again for watching our videos and the feedback. You remembered to subscribe to our channel, right?
How do you shrink a pair of deer skin gauntlet gloves they are a little big
Hi, can you please make Real vs. Fake videos on furygan gloves , seeing lot of them on Ali Express
Hi +Harish Kumar. Thanks for taking the time and watching the video. We're not distributors for Furygan Gloves so it might be a little harder to get them to donate a set to us for a video like this. We'll look into it though. Since you took the time to commend on our video and give some feedback, please enjoy 5% off your next purchase with us by using code TH-cam5 (std. exclusions apply). Thanks again!
I like the review but I absolutely hate the fake Jerry Springer BS. With this being said, I would like to know more information about picking out Alpinestar boots. Almost all of them I've seen or made out of some sort of fake leather. Does that mean that all their boots that I'm finding or fake? My last pair I had had actual leather. Now everything I'm finding is some sort of synthetic garbage.
i didnt finished this video yet. i dont know which of these are real... but i will buy this gloves soon and if i can find it from you cheaper i will go for you man. Thank for the video!
+Lala TheCat Hey Lala,If you haven't finished the video, we won't spoil it for you. We just want everyone to know that there are imposters out there, with no regard for your safety, and to us, that's just irresponsible. There are other adjectives we have to describe their business practices, but we also have a mixed audience.We appreciate you watching our videos, your support, and your business. Ride safe out there. You're a subscriber to our channel, right?
Next, could you compare these knock offs to a cheaper set of gloves that you sell? I'm not surprised in the least that they don't hold up to the craftsmanship of the genuine article, but are they "good enough" for any riding scenario or are they complete crap in all scenarios?
I see this question pop up now a couple times and I'll give the same response in hopes of saving fellow riders. BBC did a study testing knockoff yamaha pants. Spoiler alert they didn't meet ece standards. I think any certified garmet from a real manufacturer if likely safer than a knockoff. It has to be. It met the certification. $20 ce certified glove vs $60 knockoff glove who definitely didn't get any ce certs? All gloves have different levels of protection and im sure the 20 dollar glove can't hold a candle to Knox gauntlet but at least it had some kind of testing. Knockoffs you just have no idea. I mean he said it's definitely not leather. Then what is it? It might not even be abrasion resistant and it could shred like paper. Idk knockoffs scare me after seeing this. These knockoffs look better and better all the time
OH my god this is so cheesy
A belt sander would have been a better way to show the difference in the gloves
That's one way to show it, but actually cutting them open to see the differences of the construction is much more informative. you get to see why one is better than the other with the fine details. Thank you for the comment though.
k- tech is printed in yellow too on the genuine ones
Mine don't so I went to the Astars website and noticed 3 of the schemes don't including the black/white/red combo like I have and the black as well as the black/white/yellow. Not sure why the other busier designs do. Bought mine from revzilla and they came in the legit packaging as shown in this video so you can't use the Ktech logo as a guide.
I'm finding the use of lead in lots of cheap products made in China. I just found a warning tag in my new "cheap" car cover.
Did you test any of the fabrics or colors for lead?
+crunchers9
Hey C9,
Nope, we did not do a lead test either the fabrics or the color for lead. We were mainly going after the materials used and the method of construction. Interesting point you bring up though. Thanks for watching our videos and the comment. Ride safe!
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I bought some Chinese gloves and I think it is best to pay the extra and get the real things. Even if you buy Pakistani gloves. They have a part that looks like fiberglass until it breaks and you see it is plastic with paper inside. Imagine that in a crash. I am happy for this video.
***** Before you scream murder make sure there is a crime. Go and look at the Pakistani motorcycle gear before you judge. gpimoto.com/Motorbike-Leather-Garments/Leather-Racing-Suits I use to use a pair as my first leather gloves now I use Scorpion Mk II
Great job. I would like to see more videos like this.
+Ruben87 xx Hey Ruben,Stay tuned. We're always coming up with new content. Thanks for watching our videos and the comment. You remembered to subscribe to our channel, right?
*runs to shelf where I keep my aplinestar gloves* *presses to nose and inhales deeply* mmmmm cow. *looks with a sideways glance at puma 1000's in the corner*
Excessive into but worth it because the rest is excellent and original content :-)
If the stitching can already tell what's fake, why still tear a 250$ glove?
+Shi Zi good question. Some people may just look at the stitching and feel that they can live with that one flaw, but once seeing the hidden differences they are convinced to purchase the real thing and not get taken on some cheap imitation. Thanks for the comment! Here's 5% off your next purchase at BikeBandit when you use promo code TH-cam5 at checkout (std exclusions apply)
Are both made in China ? There is your problem ,blueprints are nearby , anyway good review , except for the puppet show
Imitation aside, how would you rate these in comparison to a $60 pair of gloves?
+Tom in HK
Hey Tom,
My best analogy would be something like this re: the $60 gloves shown here...a first grade child with a black belt in karate. Really.
The kid might have a black belt, and received great training, but in a practical application setting, really how effective will the kid be. Yes, they are a black belt, but perhaps there is a false sense of security there as well. Take a look at some of the gloves that have recently gone to "close-out". This is the perfect time of year to buy last years gear at a fantastic deal. A great example would be the Scorpion EXO Guardian gloves: full leather construction, hard knuckles armor, a few colors to choose from, etc. and they're just over $50! Lots of good options out there for sure. Now, hitting the ground in the fakes with their material (we're still not sure what they're made from) questionable thread material, and a facade of an armor complement...well that's just too much of a gamble to take. As with anything, if something seems too good to be true....it probably is. Thanks for watching our videos and the question. Ride safe. BB.com
As a first grade child with a black belt, I find your comment offensive.
You are paying for the name, not for added safety. I can guarantee you with either glove, you will be protected in some cases, and in others you are fucked anyway.
amigo aqui no BRASIL, uma luva dessas chegaa custar 1300 reais, e no aliexpress com todos os impostos que e de 60% ela custaria 224 reais, sendo assim eu ficaria com a fake, mas entendo suas colocações, ate concordo porem nao teria como uma pessoa pensar e mcomprar com essa diferença gigantesca
Jonas sauro deixa ele vir morar aqui no Brasil que rapidinho ele virá cliente assíduo do aliexpress 😂😂😂
Wondering how all those passionately defending the fake ones would feel about copyright infringement if they owned a company and created a product that someone made an inferior copy of?
I cant understand defending the fakes either. Don't get me wrong I've contemplated buying wish and aliexpress gear before then I think wait... I need this to save me. I can't afford the $250 glove either I get it but Jesus there's dozen of gloves far cheaper that are the real deal tested and certified to protect u? Why is gear so expensive? Ur paying for that testing in part. The knockoffs just take the design and do none of the testing. Knockoff stuff just seems like murky waters to me. Idk to each their own but I wouldn't be caught dead in fake gear I know might need to save my ass one day. I get the whole woah look at my awesome gear. Same thing as designer bags tho. U know dam well it's a fake and when someone figures out ur gear is fake you'll be as embarrassed as the girl with the knock off Gucci bag lol.
I felt distraught seeing that brand new A* glove get cut open :(
You could've just given them to me, I would have cherished them!
+Wise Fool
Hey WF,
Sorry to stress you out, but we had to cut those up to make the point that there are fakes and frauds in the marketplace, that are trying to pass off cheap copies as the genuine article, all the while compromising the safety of your fellow riders. To us that is wrong on so many levels. Although we know that you would have cherished the gloves, they made a valiant sacrifice for all.
Thanks for watching our videos and the comment. You're a subscriber to our channel, right? Ride safe out there. BB.com!
BikeBandit Yes well they had to cut for the greater good. All the riding bros need to be careful out there! Looking forward to more uploads!
The link of the seller please
i like how the white glove sounded white then the black one sounded mexican a little bit lol
It sure looks like the fake ones knuckle foam that you call cheap is identicle to the alpine stars impact area foam. And this video was kind of pointless, all it tells you is that one is fake. It in know way shows which one would actually be better in a crash.
Saying the real one has ridges inside the knuckle so its better? Take both of them to a belt sander and video it. That would be more of a test as opposed to just saying this is cheap over and over.
Greg the ridges in the impact area is There to end up with a larger surfster which will spread the impact force better= ending up with less hurt hands
How much is it.
Does anyone of you know the brand Ixon? I'd be interested in one of their (don't know the English word) jackets (the Eager), which costs around 150 euros... Pretty low price, even if also Dainese and Alpinestars do jackets for that money (190 euros or more)... Don't know if trust them or not...
+Aksel “DukeFleed” Newt
Hey DF,
Be do know the brand IXON. They make nice gear for sure, but we aren't offering their gear at the present time, so we can't offer up any more information regarding their products. Sorry about that. We do offer, Alpinestars, Spidi, Rev'It, and other brands as well. Feel free to ask us questions about any of these brands, as we know much more about them. Thanks for watching our videos and the question. You're a subscriber to our channel, right? Ride safe. BB.com!
BikeBandit Thanks! In the end, in the shop, today i saw an Alpinestars T-GP Plus R Air Jacket ( www.alpinestars.com/t-gp-plus-r-air-jacket#.Vyj0i2MYFmA ) and i fell in love. Had a good discount and i got it! Just perfect
But gotta admit that the paint scheme on the knock off knocks of the other
so dont buy italian or american brand knock offs off aliexpress. get asian brands like rs taichi or komine. theyre the real thing, better designed, look better, and are just if not more protective.
What?
This is scary, as i bought mine off Ebay..... Paid top dollars for it, but makes you think... no?
Traian Olinescu Hey Traian,eBay is a tempting place to buy stuff for sure, as some of the deals are pretty spectacular for sure.Here's an easy way to make sure that you're getting the genuine article and great pricing. Buy from us at BikeBandit.com. Plus anything over $99, your order ships for free. Thanks for watching our videos and for the comment. You remembered to subscribe to our channel, right? Ride safe!
I understand (but condemn) almost fake everything, but fake safety gear!??
Please do an abrasion test (with a belt sander) next time :-)
Why would anyone knowingly buy a knockoff? It would be like a buying a fiberglass Cobra with a Volkswagen engine and somehow thinking you have the real thing. I'm amazed by the number of people who readily admit they would. My guess is that most of the comments saying they would buy a knockoff are from children or tweens that have no understanding of how the world works. I'm surprised they were able to view the video in between their watching lady gaga vids or other children streaming them playing video games. Brilliant vid BB.
im 1minute 12 seconds in. man if the black glove arnt fake ill be shocked massivly!
0:20 i thought you were going to put a scary video... maybe because i just watched torture soup
Thx
Since when do gloves save your ass??
(I am not stupid i know sarcasm)
Good production quality, wear good gear but you're high if you think either of these are gonna make a real difference in a serious accident, yes ATGATT but more importantly ride to survive,
Hey Sargeant,
Thanks for the props on the video production. We appreciate you watching them and the positive feedback. Now, where we're going to disagree with you is on the protective capabilities of these gloves in a serious accident. Remember, especially with gloves, more armor, thicker leather, and strategically placed sliders, etc...more is better. There is however the delicate balance of protection and dexterity. We've got employees here that have had triple digit speed crashes, and walked away with not a scratch on them. One guy in particular here, destroyed an Arai Corsair, a Spidi kangaroo suit, Spidi Penta gloves, flattened his back protector, and scuffed up his boots pretty good. Essentially wasted about $3500-$4000 in gear (the suit was $2000) but in the end he walked away. Not so much as a scratch. So was it really a waste? We think not. There are no guarantees when it comes to crash scenarios, but you have a much better chance of minimizing you injuries with high end gear. Look at the guys on the MotoGP circuit. They rarely crash, but when they do...it's not just a silly tip over. Anyways, we agree that ATGATT is smart thinking.
Thanks again for watching our videos, and the continued support. Also, if you really are a Sgt., thank you for you service. You're a subscriber to our channel, right? Ride safe. BB.com!
BikeBandit you know what, you're right, if a crash happens, im sure as hell gonna make sure im as well protected as possible, Looking back i dont even know what i said what I said...
I agree with gear being worth it I went into the hospital because my appendix was about to burst had it removed and stayed the night guess how much the bill was? $24,000 I mean holy fuck I'm 21 if my dad didn't work at that hospital and we didn't have such good insurance I would be in a fuckin good bit of debt. So now imagine a motorcycle crash with shit gear broken hands, maybe a foot, rib, road rash, etc. All the stuff they have to do to put you back together (not to mention potential future surgeries if thinks don't sit right) and probably multiple days in the hospital on top of the ambulance ride you are looking at a whopping bill that will probably cost you 10x what the gear did. ATGATT and good gear at that.
REAL problem the one you have in the states with public health, may be the biggest social problem, and guns of course..
hospitality bill? never heard of it
found Alpinestars and Dainese one piece leather suit on Kijiji guy has a storage unit full of brand new gear of all sorts all knockoffs buyer beware $1000 suit for $500
Never been impressed with a* gloves had a pair of gp pros crap for the price.
they sell for $40 in aliexpress including shipping.
and nowdays quality is better:))
I dont know about you but my hands are worth enough to me to pay 200 to keep them intact.
Good vídeo
I have 2 pair of Exellent "fake gloves", comfortable , no cheap stitches , good quality material , real leather ... so , I don´t know where you buy the "fake gloves" appeared on your video ...my fake gloves are very different in Quality , maybe not perfect but very good ... you are Lying for a few dolars ....very Bad four you !!!
I really enjoyed the video :D The reality show idea was reaaally funny and the dude talks like a pro presenter, not lame as those on revzilla and sportbike track gear. Also the idea of butchering the gloves is kind of awkard, but did the job for me. BIG LIKE :D
+malangamba Hey malangamba,Thanks for the kind words on the video and the entire production. We thought is was worthwhile, to show consumers of motorcycle apparel, that there are frauds out in the marketplace. Cutting up a pair of $250 gloves was what it took to get that message across, and it has been well received. We've had nothing but a great response to this video, and our other Bandit Garage videos as well.Thanks again for the positive feedback. We appreciate you watching our videos and your business. You remembered to subscribe to our channel, right? Ride safe. BB.com
i bought used, got me a really good pair for 50 bucks.
I love your humor :)
fake is good one..., real is just too expensive
fake is the winner
Lol not in a fall it's not I had cheap gloves before the Alpinestar SPX air carbons that I picked up recently and oh my god the difference is scary compared to the Speed and Strength gloves that I sent back before settling on some cheap AGVsports while I kept looking around and the Astars is legit. They 1 downside is that you definitely feel like you are wearing a glove unlike the gloves I tried on before. Seeing how much we use our hands on a day to day basis I'll happily spend 100, 120, 135, 175 on a good glove.
OspreyBravo18
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May be for disambling bombs apart in lebanon are good enough..
Joting Rai Read your own comment. I'm saying that in a fall the real gloves are not too expensive they are just right for what they will do for your hands.
OspreyBravo18
what ? fake one ?
don't over react to the fakin stuff and make from it a show ! just do it simple and it will get it seeds
I’d still but the fake, who’s going to know, except I like the reals color
You'll know if you fall off and they shred to nothing leaving your hands to fend for themselves on the tarmac.
спасибо парню на видео , думал купить gp pro китай . но теперь передумал .. брать нужно только оригинал
+Spartacuss1000
Hey S1000,
First let me translate your comment...thanks to the guy on the video , I thought to buy gp pro china . but now I changed my mind .. taking only need the original.
Glad that you found the video helpful. Always best to buy gear from an authorized retailer. That way you know that your getting authentic products. Thanks for watching our videos. Ride safe out there. Remember to subscribe please. Thanks.
+BikeBandit я с вами полностью согласен :) очень хорошо что на ютюбе есть такие парни как вы , которые объективно показывают отличие оригинала от подделки , и теперь благодаря вашему видео я смогу легко отличить оригинал от подделки .
p.s
подписка на ваш канал уже оформлена :) буду и дальше наблюдать за вашими видео .
Удачной работы и успехов :)
BYE FELICIA!
so you saying that your having a good price for your gloves. so expensive.
+Jessie Valdez
Hey Jessie,
We can talk anything you like: Scotch, motorcycle gloves, diamonds, or power tools. The good stuff will always cost more. Always.
Companies that produce high end motorcycle apparel spend millions of dollars testing their products, making sure that their customers get the finest quality, the safest design, and the best materials for the money. Alpinestars sponsors the fastest guys on the planet, and those riders come back with input on how to make the product better. The MotoGP is the highest level of roadracing. Of the last 10 years, 8 of those years, the World Champions (Hayden, Stoner, Lorenzo and Marquez) wore Alpinestars. They are your product development team. Think of it that way.
Sure you have choices when it comes to gear. They make gloves with only half of the fingers covered. They make helmets that only cover the top of your head. You can choose to ride in denim jeans and sneakers if you like. When you look at the top tier products, expect to find the price tag to go with it. We sell gloves at all price points, but if anyone thinks that they're getting the finest glove for $70, well, we both know that's simply not the case.
Thanks for watching our videos. You're a subscriber to our channel, right? Ride safe out there. BB.com!
+BikeBandit Agree with you there, quality means more R&D time spent coming up with a procedure. There could be GMP, QA, QC, SOP's involved in making products. I save my money and buy quality gear for riding since it's my life im protecting. Good quality doesn't come cheap. I work in production of medicine, and guys a lot of work, time, effort, planning goes into making a quality product. Sometimes I do 73 hour weeks just so we meet quota for the medicine we make for Hemophiliacs, and we are just one step out of many.
I liked that talking gloves
The Real also produced in China ;-D
The Difference is, that Alpinestars sees no money... 60 bucks is the real price... the other 240 bucks more for the "Real" is the money alpinestars earn ;-)
Nope wont go for made in China anything especially legit race gloves with the highest protection (when you go down with an SBK you'll know why this is the only glove to wear...actually 240 isnt bad because in reality these should be available only to factory racers.
Hey AM,
It's always nice when others understand the concept of investment. We've had some folks comment on the fact that $250 is WAY out of line when it comes to a pair of gloves. We think not. When you're looking at a glove of this caliber, you're talking about the finest materials, the countless hours of R&D that goes into them, and the fact that they have an amazing balance of safety with full functionality, and are available to the retail public, makes them worth every penny.
Thanks for watching our videos and the positive feedback. You're a subscriber to our channel, right? Ride safe. BB.com!
Video starts at 3:20..
Dude you look like danial riciardo hahaha
okay then....
hay
...is it because it's black !?!
For 60 bucks, I'll prefer the Chinese any day of the week.
Also the differences are so small that don't justify the price variation.
Originals are made in Thailand.Thailands didn't build the scenic wall(the only man made structure that can be seen from space), the Chinese did.
+bladimir kroutska
Hey BK,
We're not here to argue, and the beauty of this world is that you can choose to wear whatever you want to when you ride your motorcycle, even nothing at all. Totally your call. There are $60 genuine gloves that will protect you better than $60 frauds.
It's not so much as where it's made (here we're talking about gloves) but this can be anything you like. It's the ingredients. If you use mediocre ingredients, you get a mediocre product. We can agree on that hopefully.
Our problem is that you have businesses that are trying to pass off frauds as the real deal, that can be had for a bargain, and it's peoples safety we're talking about here. You want to drink lousy Scotch, go for it. It just tastes kind of blah, but it's still booze. Having someone expect to fall off a motorcycle and still be safe is just wrong.
Now, your GWoChina parallel is just silly. You realize that it took 9 YEARS just to build the original section, right? What you know as the "whole wall" (which really wasn't a complete project took another 11, and the wall that you know today was actually completed over several hundred years, over 1000 years after the project even started. The motivation was to protect the Chinese from the warring Mongols approaching from the South. Imagine if the Chinese Dynasty at the time "sold" the idea of a wall to the populace as a barrier of safety, and then built it out of marshmallows. That's a closer parallel to your glove/cost idea.
O.k.Then explain this to me please.
I just bought a pair of boots these days(the Tech 5s' to be exact) and they are made of leather,synthetic leather, and rubber.
The boots weight about twelve times more than the gloves do, and both are made from the same materials.
How come the gloves cost more than the boots?Do they make coffee or something?
And what I said about the scenic wall is not a parallelism ,it's a statement.I' m not into why they build it,when they started building it,if they stopped and continued after a thousand years.
I just stated that it's the only man made costruction that can be seen from space and it's Chinese.
I don't have anything against Thailand.I am a Thai-box athlete myself
and I love Thai people and I go crazy about Thai food.
+bladimir kroutska
Hey BK,
So, your boots weigh 12x what your gloves do because they're about 12x the size. There are buckles and a steel shank internally that adds weight, however with the gloves, it's smaller components and thus harder to make, hence the higher cost. If they make coffee, awesome!
Here's an interesting fact about high-end motorcycle gear. Did you know that only Japanese women assemble Arai helmets? The men make the shells, and the women because of their smaller hands, and more attention to detail in the application of graphics, vents, etc. assemble the final product.
We will agree with you 100% that Thai food is wonderful.
Anyways, most importantly, enjoy your ride. Ride safe and thanks for the dialogue. BB.com!
+BikeBandit Actually I didn't know that, thanks, but I remember in the late 80's my friends at school were mocking me because my father owned a Japanese car, and a few years later when they graduated from high scool, most of them got Japanese cars.
Thank you, too for the conversation!
bladimir kroutska some thing with Japanese motorbikes. And now Chinese
$60 compared to $240 is really quite a difference though isn't it? I can buy 4 pairs! I might not skimp on the helmet quality but gloves? Humm...
I think the knock offs are still WAY BETTER than what was available even just a few years ago and I still have both my hands so...
Just saying-
JERRY JERRY JERRY JERRY !!!!
white is always better, hehe ;p
nice gloves for 60 dollars
You get what you pay for in the fakes ones at least, I cannot say same about the genuine ones unfortunately
watching way to much jerry
I like the talk show part. Thought it was funny