Good job Mike and thanks for all that you do to make our sport better. Your expertise and ability/willingness to share is very helpful and much appreciated.
Great comparison, thanks for the breakdown. Firepower now comes with a 3yr warranty. Replaced the Skyrich in my '13 350 EXC-F, the Firepower fits exactly to the battery tray dimensions and has higher cca @145 vs the little shorter(length) Skyrich.
Hi Mike, there's one extremely important factor in Canada that needs to be included. Cold temperature charging. With snowbiking in canada a lot of BMS will shut down an disallow charging at a certain temperature. They also tend to glitch at extreme cold, EarthX w/no bms is less protected but a sure winner in extreme cold. Shorai seems to work well in cold.
I know this is a weird metric to compare but it is an important factor as they batteries will stop charging at a certain temperature and can do weird things.
I have an AG801 in mine. Had to trim off the lip on one side of the bottom of the tray. No big deal (but wish I didn't have to do it!). I also had the stock battery fail when it "bubbled" out the side! Hole in the side of it. Had a whole day of enduro racing and could only push start the bike.
Great review/breakdown on these. I've been running shorai batteries after we had issues with the late 2000s ktms when back when I used to guide for ADMo tours.
What about reliability and accidents, I stuffed up on a CRF450L and accidentally shorted to earth the main positive terminal. I've been careless with other batteries or had accidents resulting in crimped or cut wires. Arching or burnt connection, or hopefully a blown fuse are normally the result. The oem Honda battery had a non resettable fuse internally, so one tiny touch of a spanner to the frame was enough to reder it useless. This sort of thing shouldn't happen but it has the potential of leaving you stranded. A much cheaper battery, that had higher ratings doesn't suffer the same floors, yes stupid me did it again on a different bike with a Li but it suffered no failure. Could be expensive, but I'd like to see some safety/destruction testing and comparison.👍
Great spreadsheet and analysis. I don't quite understand the starter power requirement you have listed of 40-60? I think that is actually the number of amps your starter would pull for the number of seconds you are cranking for the engine to start. So, 12v x 40= 480 watts to 12v x 60= 720 watts. Thoughts?
How do they perform after a crash? I’ve seen batteries that load test well But after a fall Don’t work ( cheap batteries- batteries plus batteries & power master)
Real nice breakdown. I have the firepower and it's been great. The stock skyrich lasted from 2017 to a few months ago. I am on a 2017 KTM 300xc. Question, with my new battery, it cranks faster, but it still stutters and gets held up. I replaced the Bendix bushings but it still stutters. My beta does not at all. Do you know why this might be? The Bendix gears looked good but I'm not sure if I need to inspect something other than the Bendix teeth.
what should be the running voltage of a battery? I just replaced my battery because I thought the last one was bad when bike is on i am getting 10.7-11.8v it says on my trail tech voyager pro screen.. could my stator be bad? or is this normal
I’ve had the bad luck with the tusk and anti gravity possible my fault. But no problems with shori I assume these numbers are claimed. Has anyone actually tested them to see if accurate?
The crazy thing is, I had a Shorai melt on me back in 2014 and when I quizzed my friends, I found 6 who'd also experienced a failure or had a buddy with a failure. The AntiGrav have been fantastic for me, and I've put Tusk in a handful of bikes as a budget option and not had problems.
These types of videos are exactly why I purchase from Taco Moto. Awesome content. Thanks!
Good job Mike and thanks for all that you do to make our sport better. Your expertise and ability/willingness to share is very helpful and much appreciated.
Great comparison, thanks for the breakdown. Firepower now comes with a 3yr warranty. Replaced the Skyrich in my '13 350 EXC-F, the Firepower fits exactly to the battery tray dimensions and has higher cca @145 vs the little shorter(length) Skyrich.
Nice breakdown of much needed information. We'll done!
Nice Mike!
Appreciate it sir.
🏍️💨
Hi Mike, there's one extremely important factor in Canada that needs to be included. Cold temperature charging. With snowbiking in canada a lot of BMS will shut down an disallow charging at a certain temperature. They also tend to glitch at extreme cold, EarthX w/no bms is less protected but a sure winner in extreme cold. Shorai seems to work well in cold.
I know this is a weird metric to compare but it is an important factor as they batteries will stop charging at a certain temperature and can do weird things.
Great point and thanks!
I have an AG801 in mine. Had to trim off the lip on one side of the bottom of the tray. No big deal (but wish I didn't have to do it!). I also had the stock battery fail when it "bubbled" out the side! Hole in the side of it. Had a whole day of enduro racing and could only push start the bike.
What year/model bike did you fit this AG801 in please.
@@marcopomponi8482 2023 300xc
Great review/breakdown on these. I've been running shorai batteries after we had issues with the late 2000s ktms when back when I used to guide for ADMo tours.
Turns out not all batteries are the same. Nicely done Mike
I bought the Anti-Gravity battery for two reasons. How long it lasts and it is made in USA.
Thank you for caring about “made in USA”. It seems no one cares about that any longer. (sadly)
Any recommendations for the CRF450L/RL? The battery box on them is tiny as well
Very helpful video. Thanks! How about the Noco Battery?
Two things on that one
Doesn’t fit the new bike and we had 3 fail in a few months so we didn’t include on this review
@@TACOMOTOCOwow that’s insane. They have such a good rep on chargers, unfortunate to hear that the bats seem to suck
What about reliability and accidents, I stuffed up on a CRF450L and accidentally shorted to earth the main positive terminal. I've been careless with other batteries or had accidents resulting in crimped or cut wires. Arching or burnt connection, or hopefully a blown fuse are normally the result.
The oem Honda battery had a non resettable fuse internally, so one tiny touch of a spanner to the frame was enough to reder it useless. This sort of thing shouldn't happen but it has the potential of leaving you stranded.
A much cheaper battery, that had higher ratings doesn't suffer the same floors, yes stupid me did it again on a different bike with a Li but it suffered no failure.
Could be expensive, but I'd like to see some safety/destruction testing and comparison.👍
Great suggestion for a follow up video 👌🏽
Great spreadsheet and analysis. I don't quite understand the starter power requirement you have listed of 40-60? I think that is actually the number of amps your starter would pull for the number of seconds you are cranking for the engine to start. So, 12v x 40= 480 watts to 12v x 60= 720 watts. Thoughts?
How do they perform after a crash?
I’ve seen batteries that load test well
But after a fall
Don’t work ( cheap batteries- batteries plus batteries & power master)
Batteries in our recommended group don’t have that problem
Any comments on the Noco battery that Amazon seems to be selling a lot of? I have one in my 2016 ktm 500 exc and it works great so far (4 months in).
He addressed this on a comment older than yours....a few up from yours fyi
Can the stator on these specific bikes be changed Mike?
Are lead acid batteries a no go? What's the difference
Real nice breakdown. I have the firepower and it's been great. The stock skyrich lasted from 2017 to a few months ago. I am on a 2017 KTM 300xc. Question, with my new battery, it cranks faster, but it still stutters and gets held up. I replaced the Bendix bushings but it still stutters. My beta does not at all. Do you know why this might be? The Bendix gears looked good but I'm not sure if I need to inspect something other than the Bendix teeth.
Replace and grease the bendix carrier bushings in the case
@@TACOMOTOCOI definitely greased it. Prob just need a new Bendix. I'll have to learn about those things
Does the 801 fit in the 2022 Husq. FE350s?
Any pre 24 headlight bike
what should be the running voltage of a battery? I just replaced my battery because I thought the last one was bad when bike is on i am getting 10.7-11.8v it says on my trail tech voyager pro screen.. could my stator be bad? or is this normal
I have three Shorai batteries still going strong after 8 years, knock on wood...
Def a top choice 💪🏽
My Shorai gave up after 11 years ...... 07 KTM 525 EXC, trying Anti Gravity this time
@@ktm0icebecause your last battery only lasted 11 years?
I’ve had the bad luck with the tusk and anti gravity possible my fault. But no problems with shori
I assume these numbers are claimed. Has anyone actually tested them to see if accurate?
All numbers are claimed and believed to be accurate
The crazy thing is, I had a Shorai melt on me back in 2014 and when I quizzed my friends, I found 6 who'd also experienced a failure or had a buddy with a failure. The AntiGrav have been fantastic for me, and I've put Tusk in a handful of bikes as a budget option and not had problems.
Incorrect: the EarthX doesn’t fit without cutting. Just tried mounting to 2024 ktm 300tbi
The number on the sheet shown was an error
This is the one that does
tacomoto.co/products/earth-x-etx12a?_pos=4&_sid=420d9fa4a&_ss=r
Manufacturers love to lie about their capacity. Any chance of testing thr actual capacity?
Yes and we suspected that too so are going to load test all of these on some equipment and incorporate that into future videos
Ever heard of BS Battery?
Yes, and the fitment for this bike has the same exact specs, look and design as the tusk, so they’re re labeled versions of each other