Thank you so much for this video. I was surprised about this difference in wicks, but also I’ve come across a couple of centre drafts with no glass. I could have bought them literally for a few bucks, but didn’t because I thought the glass would be impossible to find…..won’t happen again! Best video for lamps, despite the sound issues.
Thank you for this, I learned a lot and found an absolutely stunning Victorian on eBay with a handpainted sailboat and opaque white globe with clear chimney all one piece. Amazing to see the artistry.
Very neat video, I feel like I learned a lot. Most importantly I was looking for a good wick for my Dietz Jupiter, I had seen so many bad reviews for the ones on Amazon but no one wanted to give an alternative that was good. I am off to order some Hatterley wicks thank you.
Thanks for the video. When I was growing up my Dad always had oil lamps around the house for emergencies. I sure wish I had some of those old oil lamps now for emergency situations. So i think I'm going to go search for some at the thrift stores locally and see what I can come up with.
I’ve got a round wick lamp like the last one you show here and can’t get much light out of it. I’m using paraffin oil and an old wick that came on it that doesn’t feel hardened or overly dry. Do I need to be using kerosene?
Paraffin is liquid wax and is too thick for a center draft lamp. Use Kerosene, Kleen Heat, or Mineral Spirits. Kleen Heat & Mineral Spirits gives the best light w/o smoking.
I just got a plume and Atwood eagle lamp yesterday for 3 dollars. Getting different wicks as the current old one isnt holding a burn. Im converting it to use olive oil. All trial and error but i want it to be clean and renewable for in house use on Friday night. I heard theh can run a lot of hours on a small amount of oil.
Aladdin's are really effective. Should I buy a nice working one eventually I won't be able to find it ... could be bad because I think they're already pricey including parts?
What is the single arm handle for? It is on the opposite side of the double wick knobs. I bought a double wick oil lamp recently and there is a tiny nail just under the arm handle which looks like it is there to lock the handle in place. I think it might be to drop the wicks when I want to turn off the light? I appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks so much
That arm is called the "Snuffer". Turn the wicks down to the level of the wick tubes and when you push down on the Snuffer, a cap slides up and over the wick tube, snuffing out the fire instantly.
Hi me again. Can you possibly look into paraffin oil for lamps and why it doesn’t work so well for certain wicks or fonts. I’ve run into that issue with wicks not getting the capillary action but if I use Kero on the same wick and font .. no issue?
Liquid paraffin is thicker than Kerosene and is temperature sensitive (it thickens). It is actually liquid candle wax. The thicker the fluid, the lower the capillary action. Less fuel = less light.
Good info.. Miles is the man. I collect and burn all sorts of lamps. The Queen Ann vs Eagle is interesting.. I’m going to observe that in my burnings. What do you think of the White Flame burners with the metal mantle technology..I think they give the best burn. Thanks I’ll b watching for more.
Great video, thank you. Very good real information. Reminds me of the adage 'they don't make them like they used to'. I have Rayo' s and Aladdin's. Aladdin imo is really tanking their future with the shortage of mantles after another move in manufacturing. Rayo has a new lamp but it looks like a copy of another design.
@@greghall_The_TechEditor Lehman's site, Rayo small but mighty is the name of it. The description states the brightest non mantle light. Doesn't say if it center draft, to me it appears not to be.
@@JMGeranimo That is a Flat wick lamp, not a center draft. They are using the name as advertising hype. Also they said "Largest wick of any flat wick lamp on the market ". Specs states a 2-9/16" wick so it is a circular curved flat wick.
@@greghall_The_TechEditor I just looked it up. The lamp appears to be equipped with the wrong chimney. That type of burner appears to be a "Kosmos-Brenner" type which would require a pinched chimney. The bulged chimney is for "Matador" type burner that would have a flame spreader. Ant thoughts on that?
@@mikejohns3104 I have three brenners all work great, but need to have correct chimney to work well. They are nice because you get a lot of light out a small burner.
How are you trimming the wicks, flat, curved or pointed? I'm guessing these are mostly a flat style cut? In my research I finished up with a pointed wick and they seem to work well. How long do you get from a wick before it needs trimmed? I thought it would need done quite regular, but am finding that its not that often. Oh and I'm in the UK and struggling to find the Hatersley wicks you favour, at least over here!
Funny that you can not find English made Hattersley wicks in England?? I cut flat because that spreads out the flame. The taller the flame the more chance of smoking.
It's amazing how the glass on the double eagle withstand the sheer heat. I'm always kinda afraid of using too much a high flame, I always think it'll blow into my face. 😅
If it is pure brass and not plated, they can be cleaned up by mixing equal parts lemon juice and baking soda to form a paste. Leave for 5-10 minutes before wiping away with a damp cloth.
Hey. Am having a hard time finding a font that accepts my P&A duplex burner due to the no.3 threads. Do you know of any adapter that will step down to a no.2 or any make of no.3 fonts that will accept that size. Thanks.
Edward Miller listed them 100 yrs ago but I know of no reproductions. Vintage is your only hope. Personally I have never seen one except in old Edward Miller catalogs. I also am not aware of any current #3 Founts. Here is a vintage #3 at a crazy price because of its rarity: www.ebay.com/itm/175118353322?hash=item28c5de03aa:g:jk4AAOSw9nhhzT8Q&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoO%2FqQJI%2F8nlO29T1MVLD6q0B5kMvg%2F7im%2FumYal0cH4R8F%2BveE5N5Bbeh2oWeNt0ftJly2PY5Hop3sMTSb90BLFPdChtwEuaSYG5Pu8DNaU1PFwaC4SjcNaL0A0PAmbMlRJE0O0gKlAN1tWEBtPp2lvzkdoGguV3bh3%2FjUBQ2r6zk%2BOYdQthcgWZJGyb8vl9%2Bw%2BS1ukMLohpNKcjd1p75Y8%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-DurZqtYQ
very informative. Was looking to buy a basic chimney lamp for emergency. In case one doesnt find kerosne or wax, can one us edible oil? can you make a video on that too, please?
Cooking oil is too viscous to work well in a wick lamp. The capillary action would be too slow for much light. Liquid paraffin oil works fair but not as bright as Kerosene as long as it is not too cold or the paraffin oil will solidify into Vaseline! Plus cooking oil likes to smoke way more than Kerosene. In my opinion, a Kerosene flat wick lamp works best with Kerosene, not Diesel, Paraffin, or cooking oil.
Hi Greg, do you happen to have any complete lamps for sale? I'd be interested in a three or maybe even a double eagle. Thanks for the great info in the above video.
I get more light out of my queen ann and my #1 queen ann comes close to my #2 eagle. I think performance has a lot to do with how the wick is trimmed and that varies with the style of burner. One of the better videos I've seen. You need to find youself a kosmos lamp. They are like a center draft but instead of a flame spreader the globe pinches the flame together into a bright point.
I second the interest on kosmos Brenner type burners .. great design and a wonderful “ Christmas tree flame effect. I have Miles Stairs custom Sans rival chimney for my 10 ‘’’ Burner and it’s worth every dam penny.. cheers
@@peterwylie6869hello is the sans rival chimney trully that much better than the standard pinch/straight? like how much brighter is it? ive been thinking about getting one but all oil lamp forums to ask these kinda things havent been active for years, I wish there was a blog or something somewhere for me to ask soooo many questions
I couldn't tell you who made the glass bases, no makers mark. Most likely the lamp makers sourced the glass from an outside glass firm. I picked one style of wall hung glass base (because there are many styles) and then started collecting that style only for all my wall hung lamps for visual continuity. Same for the cast iron wall mounts too.
@@greghall_The_TechEditor Thanks for the tip. I found an all brass original #3 Eagle and now have it in my possession. It does fit a standard #2 font and accepts the standard 3 inch chimney. Fantastic upgrade!
I’m glad I stumbled into this video. I was just looking for shade. Now I learned that my lamp is a Queen Anne style. Thank you.
Thank you so much for this video. I was surprised about this difference in wicks, but also I’ve come across a couple of centre drafts with no glass. I could have bought them literally for a few bucks, but didn’t because I thought the glass would be impossible to find…..won’t happen again! Best video for lamps, despite the sound issues.
Thank you for this, I learned a lot and found an absolutely stunning Victorian on eBay with a handpainted sailboat and opaque white globe with clear chimney all one piece. Amazing to see the artistry.
Very neat video, I feel like I learned a lot. Most importantly I was looking for a good wick for my Dietz Jupiter, I had seen so many bad reviews for the ones on Amazon but no one wanted to give an alternative that was good. I am off to order some Hatterley wicks thank you.
Thanks for the information. My father have me an oil lamp about a year ago. It's a White Flame Light No 2 made in Grand Rapids Michigan.
Very informational video thank you!
Wow. So much great info. Im going to have to watch this again.
Just the video i've been looking for. Thankyou.
Thanks for the video. When I was growing up my Dad always had oil lamps around the house for emergencies. I sure wish I had some of those old oil lamps now for emergency situations. So i think I'm going to go search for some at the thrift stores locally and see what I can come up with.
I think I have a 1904 central draft wick burner , I need the right chimney. It seems to be a 3 inch base. Thanks for the video
I’ve got a round wick lamp like the last one you show here and can’t get much light out of it. I’m using paraffin oil and an old wick that came on it that doesn’t feel hardened or overly dry. Do I need to be using kerosene?
Paraffin is liquid wax and is too thick for a center draft lamp. Use Kerosene, Kleen Heat, or Mineral Spirits. Kleen Heat & Mineral Spirits gives the best light w/o smoking.
Believe it or not, but I was looking for this video. :) I'm a newly minted oil-lamp enthusiast.
I just got a plume and Atwood eagle lamp yesterday for 3 dollars. Getting different wicks as the current old one isnt holding a burn. Im converting it to use olive oil. All trial and error but i want it to be clean and renewable for in house use on Friday night. I heard theh can run a lot of hours on a small amount of oil.
Very nice video! Thank you.
Aladdin's are really effective. Should I buy a nice working one eventually I won't be able to find it ... could be bad because I think they're already pricey including parts?
What is the single arm handle for? It is on the opposite side of the double wick knobs. I bought a double wick oil lamp recently and there is a tiny nail just under the arm handle which looks like it is there to lock the handle in place. I think it might be to drop the wicks when I want to turn off the light? I appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks so much
That arm is called the "Snuffer". Turn the wicks down to the level of the wick tubes and when you push down on the Snuffer, a cap slides up and over the wick tube, snuffing out the fire instantly.
Hi me again. Can you possibly look into paraffin oil for lamps and why it doesn’t work so well for certain wicks or fonts. I’ve run into that issue with wicks not getting the capillary action but if I use Kero on the same wick and font .. no issue?
Liquid paraffin is thicker than Kerosene and is temperature sensitive (it thickens). It is actually liquid candle wax. The thicker the fluid, the lower the capillary action. Less fuel = less light.
Can you do a comparison between double #3 vs kosmos #14 vs dhr#20 matador
Sorry but I do not have either of the lamps.
How does the Klean heat do burning indoors?
You get a higher stable flame w/o smoking. However there is a different smell with Klean Heat than with Kerosene that some find objectionable.
Good info.. Miles is the man. I collect and burn all sorts of lamps.
The Queen Ann vs Eagle is interesting.. I’m going to observe that in my burnings.
What do you think of the White Flame burners with the metal mantle technology..I think they give the best burn.
Thanks I’ll b watching for more.
Great video, thank you. Very good real information. Reminds me of the adage 'they don't make them like they used to'. I have Rayo' s and Aladdin's. Aladdin imo is really tanking their future with the shortage of mantles after another move in manufacturing. Rayo has a new lamp but it looks like a copy of another design.
Where did you see a new Rayo?
@@greghall_The_TechEditor Lehman's site, Rayo small but mighty is the name of it. The description states the brightest non mantle light. Doesn't say if it center draft, to me it appears not to be.
@@JMGeranimo That is a Flat wick lamp, not a center draft. They are using the name as advertising hype. Also they said "Largest wick of any flat wick lamp on the market ". Specs states a 2-9/16" wick so it is a circular curved flat wick.
@@greghall_The_TechEditor I just looked it up. The lamp appears to be equipped with the wrong chimney. That type of burner appears to be a "Kosmos-Brenner" type which would require a pinched chimney. The bulged chimney is for "Matador" type burner that would have a flame spreader. Ant thoughts on that?
@@mikejohns3104 I have three brenners all work great, but need to have correct chimney to work well. They are nice because you get a lot of light out a small burner.
How are you trimming the wicks, flat, curved or pointed? I'm guessing these are mostly a flat style cut? In my research I finished up with a pointed wick and they seem to work well. How long do you get from a wick before it needs trimmed? I thought it would need done quite regular, but am finding that its not that often. Oh and I'm in the UK and struggling to find the Hatersley wicks you favour, at least over here!
Funny that you can not find English made Hattersley wicks in England?? I cut flat because that spreads out the flame. The taller the flame the more chance of smoking.
@@greghall_The_TechEditor Yep its pretty strange, but I'll keep on looking. I'm using a clear lamp oil and so far it seems to be a pretty clean burn.
It's amazing how the glass on the double eagle withstand the sheer heat. I'm always kinda afraid of using too much a high flame, I always think it'll blow into my face. 😅
It is best to use the borosilicate glass chimneys. They can take the heat. Developed by Corning Glass in 1915 and marketed as Pyrex.
@greghall_The_TechEditor nice information.
Any thoughts on how to refurbish one of these eagle burners thats oxidized? Can you clean them up and polish them?
If it is pure brass and not plated, they can be cleaned up by mixing equal parts lemon juice and baking soda to form a paste. Leave for 5-10 minutes before wiping away with a damp cloth.
Hey. Am having a hard time finding a font that accepts my P&A duplex burner due to the no.3 threads. Do you know of any adapter that will step down to a no.2 or any make of no.3 fonts that will accept that size. Thanks.
Edward Miller listed them 100 yrs ago but I know of no reproductions. Vintage is your only hope. Personally I have never seen one except in old Edward Miller catalogs. I also am not aware of any current #3 Founts. Here is a vintage #3 at a crazy price because of its rarity: www.ebay.com/itm/175118353322?hash=item28c5de03aa:g:jk4AAOSw9nhhzT8Q&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoO%2FqQJI%2F8nlO29T1MVLD6q0B5kMvg%2F7im%2FumYal0cH4R8F%2BveE5N5Bbeh2oWeNt0ftJly2PY5Hop3sMTSb90BLFPdChtwEuaSYG5Pu8DNaU1PFwaC4SjcNaL0A0PAmbMlRJE0O0gKlAN1tWEBtPp2lvzkdoGguV3bh3%2FjUBQ2r6zk%2BOYdQthcgWZJGyb8vl9%2Bw%2BS1ukMLohpNKcjd1p75Y8%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-DurZqtYQ
very informative. Was looking to buy a basic chimney lamp for emergency. In case one doesnt find kerosne or wax, can one us edible oil? can you make a video on that too, please?
Cooking oil is too viscous to work well in a wick lamp. The capillary action would be too slow for much light. Liquid paraffin oil works fair but not as bright as Kerosene as long as it is not too cold or the paraffin oil will solidify into Vaseline! Plus cooking oil likes to smoke way more than Kerosene. In my opinion, a Kerosene flat wick lamp works best with Kerosene, not Diesel, Paraffin, or cooking oil.
@@greghall_The_TechEditor Thank you :) What about round wick oil lamps/lanterns
@@essare108 Center Draft lamps can operate on Kerosene but they burn the brightest on either Klean Heat or Mineral Spirits
Great information. Do you have a link for "Milestare?" for parts and wicks? I can't find on Google. Thanks
You are spelling it wrong. That is why you can't find Miles Stair. www.milesstair.com
Hi Greg, do you happen to have any complete lamps for sale? I'd be interested in a three or maybe even a double eagle. Thanks for the great info in the above video.
Contact me at hmca@imcnet.net
@@greghall_The_TechEditor email sent thanks
Hi Greg did you get the email ok?
I get more light out of my queen ann and my #1 queen ann comes close to my #2 eagle. I think performance has a lot to do with how the wick is trimmed and that varies with the style of burner. One of the better videos I've seen. You need to find youself a kosmos lamp. They are like a center draft but instead of a flame spreader the globe pinches the flame together into a bright point.
I second the interest on kosmos Brenner type burners .. great design and a wonderful “ Christmas tree flame effect.
I have Miles Stairs custom Sans rival chimney for my 10 ‘’’
Burner and it’s worth every dam penny.. cheers
@@peterwylie6869hello is the sans rival chimney trully that much better than the standard pinch/straight? like how much brighter is it? ive been thinking about getting one but all oil lamp forums to ask these kinda things havent been active for years, I wish there was a blog or something somewhere for me to ask soooo many questions
Can someone tell me what make/model of base these lamps are? They look like wall lamps but I haven’t seen anything like them.
I couldn't tell you who made the glass bases, no makers mark. Most likely the lamp makers sourced the glass from an outside glass firm. I picked one style of wall hung glass base (because there are many styles) and then started collecting that style only for all my wall hung lamps for visual continuity. Same for the cast iron wall mounts too.
Have you ever tried kevlar wick?
Never had the opportunity to try one.
I would love to find a source for these better burners so I can upgrade from JUNK!
They come up on Ebay every now and then. Set up a search and be emailed when something comes up.
@@greghall_The_TechEditor Thanks for the tip. I found an all brass original #3 Eagle and now have it in my possession. It does fit a standard #2 font and accepts the standard 3 inch chimney. Fantastic upgrade!
So i see you do have electricity!
Only as a backup when I run out of Kerosene! :)