The Virtus Helmet / Batlskin Cobra Plus
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- In 2016, the British Army received a new type of Helmet known as the Batlskin Cobra Plus, or more commonly referred to as the Virtus Helmet. In this video, I detail the Helmet, its attachments, specifications and much more.
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Correction on video: The Light Cavalry Regiments do wear the visor and face guard whilst on Operational deployment, contrary to what I said. Here we see elements of A Squadron, Light Dragoons, in Poland with them on:
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We use the full visor and, mandabal when we are, driving the open top vechs such as jackle
There some footage of some drivers with the visors during trident juncture. I don't remember where I found it but I remember
Also light infantry recce use them when operating in WIMKs and the like. Generally the mandible and visor only are used for operating vehicles without windscreens and riot control.
We're getting there boys, ODST coming right to the battlefield
in 2077
we just need the medical counterpart to advance in the same direction
Feet first into hell
It's for the Chinese bat research virus
@@willshaw3561 what
are we gonna be halo or cyberpunk?? that's the question
Have actually seen lads driving jackals on the motorway whilst wearing the face guard and the visor, guess it makes sense there as a makeshift personal windshield
Rudolf NV 😂😂 bulletproof glass wouldn’t hurt
@@James-gh5ie they dont patrol in jackals they patrol in heavily armoured vehicles such as the panther and boxer and so on nothing like the jackal the jackal is made for logistic and quick response if they leave base in foreign combat zones they are in heavily armoured patrol vehicles
@@ALX-mv6eb yes they do depends on Regiment
@@ALX-mv6eb incorrect
@@James-gh5ie it does if it slows you down.
Light and comfortable but awkward to get the right fit. Many lads are a size large but the strap on the large is to big. Then if they drop down to medium it is to small. The solution is to get a medium strap with a large helmet but trying to get this through the store is virtually impossible.
or make the strap adjustable
Mulberry2000 clearly you have never worn one then.
Their first priority is to make shekels, then ‘ schtick ‘ ( selling it to their owned politicians, then ‘ psychological ‘. Utility and comfort take a lower priority ( if at all) . There has been a long history of shit being given to the troops, but it hasn’t stopped ‘ them ‘ making tonnes of shekels off our blood, sweat and tears.
Good to see the stores are maintaining their traditions then.
Cdo can you cut and shut the strap? Cut the strap and stitch an extra section in. Whilst sounding difficult it's not that hard to do. Just may not help.
I've officially worn that helmet with the visor and guard and its very comfortable while wearing a vest and holding a SA80 its a good helmet
That great to hear. I wonder what it'll be like once it can actually be used properly by our lad on the front lines 'when' it comes to it.
Wow...... " OFFICIALLY "!!! .......HOLY SHIT !!!!
How do you sight your weapon with the mandible guard on?
@@fireline4765 you don't. It's a gimmick.
@@frogsgottalent1106 Works on rifles with a FRAMM type stock or at night using IR laser or for riot control. Hopefully its quickly detachable while wearing the helmet though.
I can see the face shield being used for quad bikes
It's for the virus they planed
@@willshaw3561 pee pee
Got my self a set. Works perfect for airsoft however it does obstruct you from aiming down the elcan sight on the A3.
I’m with 118 REME Recovery Company (TA) and we always end up using the old kit from the regulars, some cases using MK6 helmets and MK7’s if we’re lucky, we’re getting a stock of these on Wednesday so I’m looking forward to that lol.
(Edit) Just got issued it today and honestly it’s a gem, I personally find it comfortable and it doesn’t even feel that heavy on the head.
You should try being a technical trade in the RAF, we are years behind infantry in terms kitting. We still have ECBA.
The mandible guard is for Motorised units, namely Jackal, Coyote and Vehicle gunners. Where IED shrapnel is more susceptible.
And rarely issued or used due to shortages and apparently reliability issues
I saw some TA lads using the jaw and eye guard when driving a WMIK on the road.
Hold up, ain't this part of the UK loadout on the Arma 3 apex dlc
inspired by...in that it has the front guard but that's about it.
Better watch out that nobody gonna develop an Earthquake Device then lol
all of the things in Arma 3 are taken from real life peices of equipment that is yet to be fully implemented into todays armed forces.
@@fossil6845 Not true, The MX for example is completely made up.
@@iTomBass sort of, the us army did adopt 6.5mm instead of 7.62 for most applications
Aesthetically, this is the best looking helmet the brits have had since the turtle helmet imo. british helmets tend to look hideous imo
As long as it stops the frag and bullets it needs to it doesn’t matter
I love the look of the Mk6- especially with late Cold War/NI kit
2:00 it is very unlikely you'll see them used by infantry as with the guard it is very difficult to shoulder a rifle, you're more likely to see vehicle crew use the guard as they don't typically use their rifles unless they dismount.
Infantry use them for public order and peacekeeping
Yeah, I have seen pictures and footage of mounted regiments wear them when they are in vehicles such as foxhounds, which provide little overhead ballistic protection. The jaw protection is not well suited for light infantry, but is great for the armoured infantry use. I would rather go into battle mounted with that on, than nothing. Big upgrade from the Mk 7
Well done very high-level summary of STANAG 2920 and ballistics.
A couple of more issues that my friend in the paras highlighted is that they use to use the mk7 as a hammer on a crow bar to open doors. But when the tried it with a virtus the helmet cracked. Secondly when he was completeing his jump training the buckles snaped on someone's helmet and they where no longer allowed to use them on jumps. Also id be careful since its technically illegal to own those helmets.
Not illegal to own, its illegal to sell an issued helmet as it MOD property
Phillip Woody Shepherd pretty shore it's illegal to own heard a few cases of people having their front door smashed down by the mod police.
@@harryb8945 for owning a helmet? I think someone has been telling you a few porky pies. If you can find me one case of anyone being raided or prosecuted for owning a helmet I will eat my hat (helmet).
Phillip Woody Shepherd to be fair a lot of what I've heard has been hear say but it still wouldn't surprise me.
Selling surplused, privately owned items bought directly from the manufacturer or a distributor is all fine and dandy, it's when you're distributing or own a particularly significant number of items that are still public property and technically stolen, smuggled or diverted. If you bought a helmet nicked from stores the MoD probably wouldn't be too inclined to chase it up but if you bought a whole crate of lovely new lids somebody pinched from a delivery truck you'd probably get an unexpected visit if an investigation led it's way to you. Can't tell you much beyond that since I don't know the specifics but usually every nation's standing forces have some procedure to deal with materiel being stolen or diverted.
Yet again an excellent piece of video. Tha lots for highlighting the problems with the comfy to wear virtus helmet. Good work mate!
I've only worn one of these briefly but the difference between this and the Mk6a I have to put up with is night and day, can't wait to get it replaced.
I reckon the devs at Bohemia Interactive where pretty bang on with gear and equipment designs in Arma 3. With stuff that looks very similar to this and considering the main campaign is based in the decade of the 2030's
Way better than what I wore in Iraq in 2007. US Marines
I actually build at the facility, now called Galvion. Really interesting place to be.
The great thing about the Virtus helm, is that now the Mk7 helm is cheap on the civvie market.
Amazing video. This helped me with some of my college work. I'm doing a uniformed public service course and was doing an assimment about ppe in the public services
The US Military is also developing a helmet like that called the IHPS, or Integrated Helmet Protection System. It's interesting how both nations are doing this at around the same period.
The Uk and the USA have various weapon programs together. 👍
@nhà độc tài Yang Wen Li the SA80-A2 is a fantastic weapon. if it's good enough for the SAS and Canadian Special Forces then it's good enough for anyone. stop thinking back to it's first revision in the early 1980's when it was prone to jamming, it was new technology back then and with everything had some teething issues. today its one of the most reliable service Rifles in history and its just had it's 3rd Revision back in 2018 to the SA80-A3. gas operated rifles are awesome
Good stuff...I had the prevlage of cross training with SAS and the Royal Marines while serving my country in the USMC. We cross trained with several foreign military units in my short career but my most memorable and learning experiences where from the SAS and the RM's. Top notch, professional and above all some of the toughest SOB's to ever fight the forces of evil....with that said, this gear is not combat effective....that is all, carry on.
Just out of interest - Why is the gear not Combat effective? Is it a durability issue or more to do with a lack of suitable scenarios to use the various attachements? Cheers
That’s odd because I’ve yet to find a document stating that the SAS aswell as the rest of UKSF excluding SFSG use the standard issue virtue gear instead using the Mitch helmet system, an American system.
We make it work, it's what we always do.....you guys so often have to do the same, at least in the past, receiving the army hand me downs.
@@judekelly8298 they don't, but they do often trial new kit in an attempt to break it, which is usually the case!
Cheers dits
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Good luck man! Make your family proud!
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Don't go against your tribe. Evah.
I think these helmets or something very close to these, were used in Captain America Civil War. Crossbones’ soldiers were wearing them
The armoured infantry wear it, and the adaptor on the back of the helmet has a habit of snapping off, and some of the clips and straps are strong enough sometimes and snap, making it not too great
I believe that the visor and mandible guard are now mandatory for use when driving or being a part of a crew for Jackal, Coyote, or any other open-top combat vehicles.
It's what we do. Spend lots of dosh on a 'good idea', notice no one is using it because it wasn't such a great idea after all, so make it mandatory for certain jobs so you don't look like a tit.
It’s more to make the gear and wagons seem fit for purpose. All wastes of money
The Virtus helmet did not perform well in my test. The older Mk7 outperformed it as far as protection. More to follow when the video is released.
The British are getting their equipment shit together!
*AWESOME! !*
MPAS is used more often than you think my dad and I are RAF drivers and instructors on all vehicles in RAF we have only been issued the helmet so far (we use the osprey mk4) but when we are driving foxhounds or any armored vehicles on exercise we have to wear the MPAS
The Cavalry uses face guard when mounted.
Do you have any supporting evidence for this?
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Can’t wait to move to the uk and join the British army.
Iv seen the visor and guard on the helmet on exercise in Poland with men in jackals and vechiels etc
I still have my P6. It was with me when my truck copped it! I should have been sitting on the bugger! Big improvement from the old metal cooking pot, my first helmet, but this looks like a good piece of kit. Nothing is perfect, but this does seem to have some unnecessary complications.
Just one more baby-step closer to power armor
The liner in that lid! Could've used something like that in my helmet in 05, instead of using a compress bandage lol
I can only imagine the face shield being used in a winter environment to shield against wind chill during extreme cold climates
Yea but wouldn’t the shield start to frost and block vision (condensation)
I hope they they still use this when i enlist in the danish army
I only wonder if I'll be given the chance to test out the newer Virtus gear as part of my upcoming UOTC training! Now that would be wonderful, but I'm still not sure if it's filtered down that far yet.
Have seen Royal Reg of Scotland driving out of camp in Jackals wearing full helmet, glasses and face guard combo
Excellent overview
Genuinely curious, how is one supposed to get a good cheek-weld if they aimed with that mandible front-guard on? Because if it interferes with aim, I could see why that piece might be impractical for combat.
I think they're used as more of a riot control measure for when they unleash the military on the disarmed populace again.
I’m pretty sure it is designed for riot control
Its designed for riot protection where you will either be using a shield, baton or a sidearm which none require the cheek weld. Although the Light Dragoons have been seen wearing the mandible on training operations
You're not. It's used for driving vehicles, top cover, and riot control.
it's good until you drop it then have to pay over 300 quid for a new one.
Matt Barack trust me 😂😂
Matt Barack If a drop is all it takes to damage it, it must be a pretty ineffective helmet. XD
Hmm
They aren't using window glass as protection
@@purpleemerald5299 it is a PE helmet after all. People are already reporting issues with the Revision helmets, not just in the UK.
There's footage of troops in Jackals wearing them
Good to see they are using mountain bike tech to secure the helmet properly
Minimal battlefield use? That's a good thing isn't it? Keep yourselves well HM Forces people and thanks for all your efforts during the present troubled times.
Minimal battlefield use means that the helmet hasn't had much time being tested in the field as others, so some problems maybe aren't discovered yet
(I used to work for a UK company making sound meters, blast recorders etc.) In the mid 2000s, I began to wonder if a lot of the "mental" problems suffered by soldiers after combat might be due to actual damage to the front of the brain, caused mainly by pressure waves from the discharge of their own weapons getting into the sinuses via the nose and mouth. This problem would be bound to get worse with short-barrelled weapons (M4 etc) which are now all the rage. It is known that damage to the front of the brain can cause "depression" and other associated symptoms, from a physical rather than psychological cause. I did mention this concern to people working in the helmet-design sort of field, but I heard no more about it. (Usually the case when you have an IDEA anywhere near the MoD!)
The Mandible Guard for this helmet is probably not designed with this problem in mind, but it looks as if it would at least help disrupt a pressure wave entering the nose and would certainly be better than nothing, if people wanted to reduce this kind of risk. Pressure waves ,"noise", do not just damage your ears! You need to keep them out of your nose and mouth, too, if they are at all strong.
The problems with plastic parts breaking in cold weather might be addressed by a better formulation of plastic resin, and might not need need new tooling, which for injection-moulding machines can be expensive. This sort of thing can even be affected by mould temperatures, which are adjustable.
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@357MagnumPlinkster Society Thank you for the reply. I think modern weapons have made this worse and since the end of the Boer War, there have been two trends: one towards ever shorter barrels and the other towards higher pressure loadings/cartridges. .303" MKVII must have produced a sharper pressure wave than .303" MKVI, and it was realised even during the troubles in Northern Ireland that the 7.62mm SLR was making more soldiers deaf than the .303" Lee Enfield No4 had done. But going deaf is just a diagnostic for hidden damage around the sinuses. The 5.56mm cartridge may be smaller than 7.62mm, but it was always just as high a pressure, and recent loadings intended to make the M4 and L22 actually effective, push the pressures higher still. That's before you even consider nearby mortar bursts and IEDs. Soldiers need something that stops pressure waves getting straight inside their heads by the shortest route.
@357MagnumPlinkster Society Getting ministers to listen is something else that has gotten more difficult in recent years. Under Thatcher and Major, if you thought of something the minister didn't know, you could get him to listen and even respond. The most helpful minister was Jonathan Aitken (it's a shame he got himself jailed) and I was able to get things done, here and there. But from the moment that Blair entered Number 10, onwards, I have not been able to get ANYTHING even read by a minister (anywhere in government, not just the MoD), let alone responded to. All of a sudden there was a wall of "advisors" who were party political but paid civil service salaries, and they cut the ministers off from all outside sources of information not accepted by the "director of communications" who would be someone like Alistair Campbell or, worse, Daniel Korsky. Brown, Cameron and May did the same. It means that since 1997 we've been governed by blindfolded men, who might have been capable of better decisions if they had some sort of contact with the outside world and actual facts, now and then.
Great design
I’ve used Revision military grade eyewear for several years. Its the worst product I’ve ever experienced. Product immediately wear and tear under the normal use. Also it’s poorly designed and manufactured. Honestly these days outdoor gear manufacturer brands do better design and buoy quality.
Wich is fucking weird, example i use gardening gloves rather than tac ones because they seem to have better durability
Welcome to the concept of the lowest bidder...
@Jimmy De'Souza Ok I'll admit you are right and make a good point. However the visor is still a peace of crap when it comes to its durability/ reliability and should have had it's design perfected before being introduced.
100% truth right here. We have Revision eyewear in the Cdn Army, it scratches if you bloody look at it.
@@jordanstewart2455 Peace is never crap, its the best state of affairs, however the odd piece of kit is just crap.
Looks like a good design letdown by cost cutting during manufacturing
teething issues of a new piece of equipment. these have all since been ironed out. it's a fantastic Helmet
I would love to see a detailed video about operation Barras
our military is getting more and more like america everyday.
And?
And???
@@glenscott8367 and nothing. i was refering to the helmet.
Except we're still smarter and better trained
we will drop the sa80 and use m4 soon im pretty sure
Anyone else notice the bug run between his right thumb and finger? @1:02
Halo: For Queen and Country
Hi the UNSC is just the Empire Strikes Back
Modern British helmets look a certain way, I like it, but it's very distinctive
one thing i’ve always found concerning about the new lighter weight kevlar based helmets is the reports that they do not do as good of a job at stopping ricochets as previous metal helmets. Can you shed some light on this would love to hear your opinion on this
they are way way way better than metal helmets the fibers slow down the projectile far better, each fiber is stronger than titanium and there is thousands of them that a bullet or shrapnel will have to destroy to breach the helmet. metal is just 1 layer and is easily breakable by modern weaponry
Apparently a MK3 helmet is coming out, wel that's what my buddy who is still in said, still haven't had the SA80A3 though and he's a proper hat!
the SA80 A3 entered service in 2018. so that is odd. my buddies still in all use it.
@@thetechoasis2179 alot of battalions still haven't had it yet.
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Light cavalry wear the extra face protection.
Next from the MOD : Tactical Bubble wrap to cover entire body. With added Thick steel plates on the outside. Not recommended for the following activities : Walking, firing, standing up straight, attempting to move jonts at anything other than a 80-90 degree angle
The webbing and best is also well received there’s few problems with that
They are not, which is why loads of guys buy aftermarket upgrade kits for them. In many ways the Virtus was a step backwards compared to the MK4.
1:02 there's an ant that crawls across the strap to the right of the dial.
Oh my god your right
Ive only head bad things about it. Only 200g lighter and i got told recently loads were being recalled because the chinstrap buckles kept breaking. I hope i dont have to turn in my Mk7 anytime soon for one of these.
protection? nah it just looks kewl
It looks like the NATO stealth helmet from ARMA 3
The Army should invest more and stuff they buy for tier 1 soldiers.
I can't wait for this new Arma 3 Apex dlc
We use the mandible and visor when operating the jackal.
Nice to see our boys get some good kit for a change . Now get them some decent weapons.
I know those LA 81 are seriously poopy.
SA rifle is the same caliber that I used for foxes. No good for our infantry.
Have to balance weight with robustness with cost, though if they are prone in braking there should be a fast dispatch of new gear!!
finally
Broken 4 in 18months, good design but not robust enough.
Would have very much preferred the helmet contract to stay with NP Aerospace. The new Revision helmets have a lot of issues, not just with the British army. Unfortunately, the Virtus helmet (and Revision PE helmets in general) aren't that great. They get absolutely trashed in non-ballistic bumps, unlike conventional aramid helmets, which was a cause for rejection in some American units.
On paper the helmet is great, PE is an interesting material, but in the field the flaws of PE really shows.
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Why is the back of the neck so exposed? Couldn't they use a bit more material back there?
Probably so you can still fire from the prone comfortably. Don't want it to obscure your vision when you're firing from a low position.
@@Kyoptic Good point. Hadn't even considered that.
I’m assuming your backs aren’t meant to be towards the enemy in combat
@@Lordihyper What's meant to be and what can happen don't always match. The guy who mentioned needing to be prone had a point. Somehow only ever facing towards an enemy doesn't seem valid.
LordHyper, your front may be to the enemy, but that doesn't mean that a grenade or artillery shell won't land behind you. Especially in modern Urban combat. Scott's question was legitimate.
Old WW1/WW2 helmets tended to have better neck protection, because body armour was next to non-existent, so maximum protection for the head was necessary. Modern infantrymen have body armour that often has neck protection included, or is so bulky anyway that the gap at the back of the helmet is needed just so the helmet doesn't get pushed over the soldier's eyes every time they lie prone.
They should use a bungy cord instead of a counterweight. Mk 2 will be a big improvement
No protection from shrapnel striking the cerebellum. The ideal helmet shape is the ww2 german helmet AND to be as lightweight as possible - the atlas carries all the weight the head plus helmet. In the future it might well be that helmets will be 3D printed after a 3d scan of an individual head.This way the helmet can be individually tailored to each head- not to mention no need to hold expensive stock of helmets not being used.
please make a video about the Dynamic Weight Distribution System.
I think a problem with this helmet (more with a faceshield and visor) is that using it with a respirator is a nightmare. To put on a mask, you have to take off a visor, faceshield, than a helmet or take off a helmet with a faceshield which can hurt.
Now let's get some body armour
we are getting to halo level gear now boys
Anyone accidentaly read the thumbnail as ballskin cobra plus
Hello,I have a medium chin guard and visor,it would fit with a Large sized helmet?Im asking because everyone on ebay is selling large helmets...
Not surprised about shit breaking on this helmet what can you expect from the UK defence budget they always look for the cheapest option when it comes to the British forces. They would sooner give hundreds of millions in foreign aid than look after our own.
In theory foreign aid is to bribe foreign ministers to buy British products.
@@the.parks.of.no.return that would be acceptable if Britain actually had any manufacturing anymore.
Can we have this instead of the ACH?
You'll be glad to hear that the Army is getting the IHPS to replace the ACH/ECH:
www.military.com/kitup/2019/03/05/full-details-armys-newest-combat-helmet-revealed.html
The ACH padding was terrible but better than the previous Kevlar helmet...the plates in my skull literally shifted because of the Kevlar webbing that rested on my head...after deployment it took about 4 months until my skull stopped have the indentions from the webbing...
Anybody knows the Virtus should be near the ACH or ECH category?
I would take the ACH over this any day!
Yey a green motocross helmet
Every soldier I know said they are shit as they crack when to hot or cold on the outter layer which places it useless and the British are going back to Mk7
Those mandible guards look very like full face cycle helmets?
the mouth guard is level 3a this wont stop an m4 mostly its made to protect from schrapnel
I am actual curious if this would be any good for airsoft and paintball helmets
Why don't make full head protection just like a stormtroopers helmet (only to explain the concept I mean)
1:50 Look at the size of that gap between the visor and face guard !
He didnt attach the mandible tightly
There’s a viper helmet on eBay Uk right now
Robot soldiers coming. No need for weak, puny human bodies to be masticated in the jaws of war.
Hey quick question can I mount that visor with ops core helmet's
How do you shoot with an attached mandable?
so its just like an ach, which is old design by now