Titanic gets such a bad rap about being poorly designed or built. She had damage to over 1/3 of her water tight compartments; an unprecedented amount of damage from a collision. And yet, she still managed 2 hours and 40 minutes; most of which, with the lights on. Great video. Very informative.
I remembered watching a documentary a while ago where they discuss the Titanic (I believe something on the lines of 'Drain the Ocean') where they discussed that the ship was not poorly designed, nor was the quality of the steel used in her construction shoddy for the time, the truth was as they said in their words "She was subjected to forces she wasn't designed to handle".
Well said sir. I mean, moden cruise ships are built using the best technology and materials "for the ships intended purpose." If they encountered seas that they weren't designed for, they may structurally fail. Not because of flaws. But because of stresses it wasn't designed for. They couldn't lift the Concordia from its side because it may have separated. Not because it was week. Because it wasn't designed for that type of stress in those areas.
For that time she was built by high standards of quality Technology advanced since then, we have better understanding about how brittle the steel is when exposed Also her hull plates were riveted together unlike today's ships who use welded plates, riveted plates cracked open on joints on impact
I love your channel so much!! I seriously can't get enough of your content. I recently re-watched Titanic (1997) and had been watching a bunch of Titanic related videos and suddenly got recommended your channel and have been binge-watching it for days! Thank you for all of the hard work and dedication you put into making these videos!
It truly was an engineering marvel!yes she sank but her build was stout and the craftsmanship was impeccable she just wasn't designed to be a submarine 😂 so all the extra water broke her
@jamesricker yes james it was tug of war at the end between the bow and the stern. But with that amount of water the bow was always going down, with tons of water come in every second? Its got no chance. But a just cant work out why the bulkheads only went up to 10ft on that deck? Of course water is going to go through the whole ship, its the same as not having them at all. A just dont get it at all. Its like a deliberate mistake, and i heard all the insurance storys years before this. Now i believe it. Having 10ft bulkheads in rooms 15ft high? Come on who did there maths on this? Plus she could of stayed afloat with 5 or 6 bulkhead rooms flooded, as it had 16. Thats confusing that bit of the ship. And its as if alot avoid talking about it, they go through the whole ship but not really the deck that was badly fitted and sank her.
I found your channel 2 years ago and you still amaze me with new things about the Titanic. I fell in love with the Titanic when I was 6 years old (that was back in 2005) and I learned much about the Titanic through out the years but with your channel and Oceanliner Designs I learned so much more about the Titanic and other ships. Thank you, for all your work. Much love from Austria :) Btw. 7 people from Austria were on the Titanic but back in the days it was still Austria-Hungary :)
Thank you so much Sam for remembering all those people that watch your videos that Titanic existed, the Titanic will never be forgotten because of you. Thank you soo much.
@@weasel2173. Brittanic hit a mine though and that one had far more devastating effects compared to a single Iceberg. Brittanic would have been fine had it encounter the same obstacle as Titanic did. Actually, the ship was nearly saved by the captain after the mine incident. It was only lost when he had to lose time and give up when people were being lowered into lifeboats without his knowledge and getting pulled into the propellers. He stopped when he found out what was happening.
@@weasel2173 Do you even know how strong a mine blast is? The explosion rocked the entire ship, twisted and warped the hull, knocked her off course by at least 5 degrees and opened up a hole that was almost 20 feet wide. Her portholes were open and Bartlett made an effort to beach the ship. Comparing a chunk of ice to essentially a huge contact bomb doesn't make a lot of sense
This is so interesting, Sam and you did great research! Can you imagine watching that stern rise literally straight UP and out of the water. Or hearing the sounds of bending or breaking steel as she begins to break in two? Just terrifying.. Great vid!
My mind is blown. I was always confused by the watertight compartments because they didn’t go to the top they weren’t watertight. This has explained it so well. Since I was about 6 in the early 90s I’ve been fascinated by the Titanic and also wondered about the bulkheads and the compartments and this explained it so clearly.
I’m intrigued by the topic of the break up. I recommend, for anyone interested, ‘Titanic: 20 years on with James Cameron’ (1997 film), where JC created a model to investigate the nature of the break-up. Specifically, how long before the bow detached with it’s double keel hanging on and the likely hood of this affect on the stern. It’s incredible and really aligns with peoples accounts that were there.
At 6:00. I’ve been in that room! It’s the main bar in what is now the Titanic Belfast Hotel, formerly the H&W offices. It’s so amazing to be in a room full of that history (even though it’s about £5 for a Coke!)
A rough demonstration of why Titanic's hull broke in two can be done by taking a full length pencil with the tip as the bow and the eraser as the stern. Place the middle of the pencil over a straight edge at at 45 degree angle (a counter or desk for example). Pull down on the top end of the pencil with one hand and the lower end with the other hand. When there is enough force, the pencil will break in two. This is similar to what happened with Titanic's breakup.
Thanks for these videos. would you make a video about the official narrative of the ship breaking throughout history ? like of the ship breaking topic the next day , then in the court trials. then what the survivers , governments , companies all said for the next 70 years. Then what Ballard's expedition suspected before finding it. then what the world thought with the proof. stuff like this. ive listened to dozens of hours of testimony and not the slightest mention of a break until 1985 , then it is mentioned prominently.
wow that was fast !! note to anyone seeing my comment : historic travels already has my requested video made half a year ago. titled "Why did everyone think Titanic sank Intact?". very good episode. Somehow it didn't show up in my searches for half a year.
Sorry I just now saw that you did this! Thank you so much for doing that massive super thanks! Yes I already did make a video on that topic! Thanks again and Sorry!
I always find a lot of information discussed on these videos and similar channels were stated in the actual movie. Just goes to show how much research and analysis JC and the rest of the team put into the film!
@@exxxz1999a majority of cruise ships are actually worse in build quality which is why they always get battered in storms The Astoria (ex Stockholm) has been sailing through storms for 80 years and was never battered
Neither human error nor design flaws caused the sinking. Bad luck of a completely calm sea coupled with ice further south than expected caused the disaster
Imagine being passenger on one of the lifeboats and hearing the Titanic's hull groaning under the immense strain and finally breaking in two. But all you could see was a black mass under a moonless night.
They weren't a flaw. But a necessity for a ship this long. They did add another joint on Brittanic, but without them the ship could snap during a storm or finding herslef between 2 huge waves.
When I first became interested in the Titanic as a kid in the late 90s, I remember my uncle used to tell me that the ship actually broke into three pieces. I never believed him and dismissed his theory. Now all these years later after discovering where the Titanic actually broke in half, I think he really was onto something. In some ways, my uncle was kind of right. Great video!
I appreciate how depict the smooth ocean water. Often with these shows, it is shown choppy, when in fact the witnesses reported it was a "millpond' smooth!
Thank you so much for your research! I would love to see videos about these two topics: 1. The fall of the first funnel: what caused the sudden fall of the first funnel? Was it the steam in contact with the cold water? Was it the different pressure from the water and the air inside the funnel? It is weird that it fall over like that because at that time of the sinking the ship wasn’t that inclined yet to provoke that much of tension on the ropes that were holding the funnel. 2. The untouched objects within the wreckage of the ship: there are many pictures of the wreckage showing a few objects untouched in the exact same place and position they were before the sinking. How is that even possible? These objects like the table clock and the plates and glass bowls stored in some cabins are in the exact same spot they were in the ship before the tragedy, how they were not disturbed by the rushing water and the 20/30 degree inclined position of the ship during the sinking? And also the almost vertical position during the plunge to the ocean dephs? Please can you explain how is this even possible?
When Roy Mengot studied the breakup of the Titanic, Mengot asked which broke first, the keel or the boat deck? Mengot’s theory is that these opposing forces had the effect of compressing the mid-section of the ship, crushing it, particularly just aft of the accident, until the structure failed, the ship coming apart. This accounts for the missing midsection of the ship’s wreckage, it having been left in such small particles that it has effectively disappeared. Mengot emphasizes that the Titanic was a relatively hollow vessel once its basic structure was breached. He uses the metaphor of the folding of a hollow cylinder, as opposed to the snapping of a stick, the forces ultimately crushing the ship at the bottom. Once this happened, the forward part of the ship, heavy with water and suddenly freed from much of the weight of the stern, detached afore the third funnel, and pulled away, at some point separating completely from the stern. In one respect Mengot seems to be in agreement with the popular conjecture discussed below. Once the stern became completely severed from the rest of the ship by the initial break-up, it first fell back onto the ocean, in Mengot’s view from a 10 to 15 degree angle out of the water. Then, like a bobbing cork finding temporary equilibria, its Poop Deck briefly rose up out of the water again, after which this last remanant of the Titanic went under, sinking until at some two hundred feet below the surface it imploded. The 1998 analysis offers an alternative view. It refers to new evidence from the severed keel gathered during the 1998 expedition, indicating that there was excessive wear and tear of the keel. This leads to the conclusion that the keel remained attached to the stern, which was dragged down by the bow before being led down under the ocean, still loosely attached. The stern implodes, causing explosions some 200 feet below the surface. It is then said to detach completely from the keel some 500 feet below the water surface.
Your videos are great, along with Ocean Liner Designs... With all the Brightside nonsense around, we need people who know what they're talking about! I've learned so much more about Titanic but one thing bugs me: what if they didn't slow down and just turned as hard as they could? Surely the faster a ship is moving, the greater the rate of turn? Surely reversing the engines sealed Titanic's fate? Love a video to clear that up!
I watched a documentary a while back and the researchers in it claimed the two sections were still held together by B-deck as the ship was descending to the bottom due to the relatively small debris field. Where as if the two sections went down separately the debris field would be much larger. Very interesting theory.
James Cameron said in a recent interview I’m sure you’ve seen that Titanic was going full speed and captain showed bad seamanship. What’s your opinion on that?
I know this is a thread video but can I just say thank you for keeping us updated when the summer sub went missing I work a lot so I couldn't follow the news about it and your video was extremely Helpful
Sam, I love your videos. As a fellow Titanic aficionado, I say thank you for constantly and faithfully sharing the story of the Titanic with us. Just out of curiosity, when did you first become interested in the Titanic?
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You are absolutely correct on the break up and what we all thought as well. Also when you look at the bow wreck all that deck housing at the break was right before the 3rd funnel. when the stern went down it imploded due to it going open end first with all the trapped air inside. Then the stern leveled itself going into a corkscrew sheering the 3rd funnel area and decks below it. I find it insane and scary how violent that part of the wreck is poop deck peeled back like a sardine can, starboard side exposed, port side blown out and the outer propellers bent upward went it hit the bottem.
WOULD be interesting to see a video completely about the iceberg, where did it possibly come from, how it got there, how big it was actually under the water and above the water, and where it floated afterward when it struck the Titanic. Did any other ship saw particularly that iceberg nearby and so on.....
You have a good passion for your preferred subject. If your tapped out content remember their is a Titanic conspiracy where they switched the olympic and the Titanic for insurance reasons before the sinking. Its pretty good
I think the boilers started to come away from the floor too and slid toward the front of the ship. I think some of the loud booms people heard were boilers breaking away and crashing towards the bow. The boilers weren’t fastened down with bolts that could hold them if the ship started sinking at such a sharp degree.
Any ship would break in two if sunk like the Titanic. To quote my naval architecture professor, if Godzilla picked up a ship by the bow, it would break in two. V breaks can happen in rough seas where the bow and stern are supported by wave crests, while the trough of the wave doesn't support the midships.
James Cameron's Titanic was made to the earlier assumption on where the titular ship split in half. It was only then years later that the understanding on the ship's split and demise was refined. There is a NatGeo documentary where James Cameron and his team updated the animation on how the ship sank, and split. By the way, I think Cameron's Titanic was the second film to depict the ship's split, the first one was the 1996 TV movie of the same title. It was in 1985 when the shipwreck was first discovered that the general assumption that the ship sank almost intact was debunked and confirmed many of the eyewitness accounts that the ship indeed split.
Cameron's newer documentary is actually further from what happend than where he showed in the film. The breakup did in fact start between the 3rd and 4th funnel, right on the aft expansion joint. Steel will always fail were the stress is highest, and that would have been the aft expansion joint since it ended in a point, focusing the stress.
I would be very interested in a video from you covering the similarities between The Titanic Disaster and the book "Futility or The Wreck of the Titan" which was written in 1898.
Lately I've been obsessing over your videos. They're really easy to understand and grasp. Are you planning on making a video about the seoul ferry tragedy anytime soon? I think you'd be able to make a good video about it.
So informative. I fell in love with the Titanic history when i was little thanks to the '97 movie. So cool to see someone young (I'm a 90s kid) have such knowledge and passion. I like that I am still learning new things about the story! Thanks for this video.
[I Have A Question] Why did the stern not stay afloat? If the back end had not substand damage from the ice burg and the ship had 16 water tight compartments and can stay afloat with 4 compartments breached of water and you said the stern was very buoyant then why did it sink after it broke away from the bow? After the break up there would have been only damage to the frunt half of the back half of the ship acting as another ship. There could not have been any more than 2 of its watertight compartments breached.
Power was lost shortly before it happened, but they could see the figure in the dark break in half and could see it. It would have been scary, but the first funnel that collapsed was apparently the scariest part before final plunge cause it nearly missed a lifeboat by inches and it crushed a large amount of people in full view of others. Each funnel weighed 120,000 pounds and so those caught under it would have died immediately and been crushed. The Baker in this video actually grabbed the railing and held on during final plunge and he said "It was like riding an elevator". This probably saved him from getting crushed underneath the ship, which probably happened to many unfortunate people in the water
The general trend was for the survivors in lifeboats, viewing the ship from the side, to testify that the ship split in half, while survivors who were closer to the bow section and were struggling in the water at the time of the break to testify that the ship sank in one piece. The reason that the official view favored the testimony of the survivors who were in a worse position to see the ship was that they were mostly men, including higher ranking officers, who had stayed with the ship until it sank, while those with the best angle to see the sinking were mostly women and children. It wasn't until the wreck itself was discovered that the women and children's testimony was proven to be correct.
The 1953 version of Titanic with Clifton Webb and Barbara Stanwyck (which IMO was the greatest goodbye scene in the history of cinema) didn't show the ship break in half. Did they discover that when they found the wreckage in 1985?
yea i would imagine after 9/11 calling the two broken mid-ship sections “tower 1 and tower 2” would get old pretty quick. but interesting as to how both tragedies are loosely connected even in some way.
Good morning. I would like to point out a few factors about how the Titanic really sank from that iceberg that she hit as well how the bow & stern broke apart too. First off, Titanic did have her side plates ripped open from the berg, but what the people who were doing their resources was that the hull was also scrapped from the bottom of the ship which made the freezing ocean water gush in the bow. And Second during Titanic's breakup of her bow & stern, I watched something on the Discovery Channel 12 years ago that these gentlemen had found Titanic's piece of her hull that broke off between her third & fourth funnel which was about 300-500(or more) feet away from the stern of the ship & that it was the very first thing that hit the ocean floor way before the bow hit & then the stern. So I just wanted to let you know a little bit more about the hull piece that the researchers missed out on.
Good video. Only thing I think is missing is what started the breakup and it seems to be glossed over a lot. Did the ship break up from the top down or from the bottom up? I believe it was a bottom up scenario. As Sam already mentioned, the hull was under tremendous strain from the bow being underwater and the engines providing a counterbalance to the water flooding in the bow. Of course when a massive structure fails, it does so violently, so the keel fails and bends upwards, making the hull bulge outwards. Inside the ship, the areas directly on top of the now bent keel get shoved upwards into the decks above. This also shortened the ships bottom and now the decks above and super structure are stretched longer than they were designed to be. The bending of the keel and bulging of the hull creates fractures that run up to the top decks, the super structure stretching creates top down fractures that split the ship into the four major sections: the bow, the forward tower (basically the structure around the 3rd funnel uptake down to C or D deck to the aft expansion joint), the aft tower (first class smoking room, part of a dining room, port side of the boat deck, and a deckhouse), and the stern. When the keel bent, the hull rips itself from the inner structure and floods the engine and turbine rooms, the first boiler room is damaged and boilers dislodged, the coal bunker is shoved into G deck, the forward cylinders of the engines snap and break off from the rest of the casing, then the two sections of double bottom and keel fall off of the structure. With nothing supporting these heavy objects, the boilers, coal bunkers, and engine cylinders crash through the bottom of the ship and head to the sea floor. Meanwhile, the two towers are still barely holding together by B deck, which is the lowest super structure deck but was reinforced for better stability and made to resist cracks during high seas. During the breakup, the super structure was stretched, bent, and smashed into itself. Finally B deck fails and the ship is fully separated as the bow twists to port and heads to the sea floor, the two towers following shortly after, leaving the stern alone on the surface to flood.
@@A.Netizen.Since.2010 That's a summary of what I think what happened to the ship according to Roy Mengot. His bottom up theory is the most plausible out of all the other scenarios presented over the years, taking survivor testimony into account how the stern behaved after the breakup. The evidence for what I described can be taken from multiple testimonies that stated about the time of the breakup, they heard what sounded like heavy machinery dislodging and crashing through the ship. We know that this happened because the boilers from Room 1, coal, and the forward cylinders of the engines are on the sea floor a short distance away or close to the "hypocenter" (lets just say this area was directly below the ship during the sinking) and heavy objects like the engines or boilers would not have moved far from where the ship was at the surface. I don't mean to detract from Sam's presentation, but I think this video is a perfect example and explains in detail what Mengot's theory proposed: th-cam.com/video/ggu5Moi2GEM/w-d-xo.html
In regards to the damage done to the starboard bow of the Titanic, Sam, it wasn't just a series of small punctures it was also a whole lot of popped rivets and buckled shell-plating that parted at the seams. On another note, Sam, if only the forward five compartments had been breached how much longer would the Titanic have stayed afloat?
For decades only one little girl said it broke in half. Only after it was found and after the movie did people start to realize that lil girl was right. The girl said the rear rose up in the darkness but she said she saw the silhouette raise up then flop over on its side before it finially sunk. Which no one says happened til today. I think she was right only a child could have a singular focus on the ship and not be distracted by all of what's going
What if they had made a fracture on the last 4 sections of the stern to get the water in there as well. Do you think that would have prevented the water going over the top of the bulkheads?
I’ve heard it didn’t actually puncture anything since steel is harder than ice, but it popped the rivets all the time it was sliding against the hull. Had the titanic been welded she would’ve been fine.
@@Orly90 Wait I looked it up and found this "Titanic was built between 1911 and 1912. She was constructed of thousands of one inch-thick mild steel plates and two million steel and wrought iron rivets"
@@bilbojesty Welding was even worse. Almost any welded ship back then was destined to sink, welding was a new concept and in it's infancy so nobody really knew how to do it properly
I really enjoy all the videos and not so well known information you manage to reveal in every episode, I always learn something new every time, “however” my friends and I have started a drinking game that involves taking a drink each time you say “however” lol
The inquiry into the sinking concluded that the Titanic sank in one piece; a conclusion maintained in "A Night to Remember". It wasn't discovered conclusively that the ship had broken in two until the wreck was discovered by Robert Ballard in 1985.
Titanic gets such a bad rap about being poorly designed or built. She had damage to over 1/3 of her water tight compartments; an unprecedented amount of damage from a collision. And yet, she still managed 2 hours and 40 minutes; most of which, with the lights on. Great video. Very informative.
you know its going to be a good day when a new historic travels video drops
Everyday is a beautiful day knowing this man is just breathing
I was just coming here to post that.
Last thing I want is to listen to a kid talking about the Titanic
@@YallaMiami you're here because....?
You know its a good day when you comment ❤
I remembered watching a documentary a while ago where they discuss the Titanic (I believe something on the lines of 'Drain the Ocean') where they discussed that the ship was not poorly designed, nor was the quality of the steel used in her construction shoddy for the time, the truth was as they said in their words "She was subjected to forces she wasn't designed to handle".
Good summary
Well said sir. I mean, moden cruise ships are built using the best technology and materials "for the ships intended purpose." If they encountered seas that they weren't designed for, they may structurally fail. Not because of flaws. But because of stresses it wasn't designed for. They couldn't lift the Concordia from its side because it may have separated. Not because it was week. Because it wasn't designed for that type of stress in those areas.
For that time she was built by high standards of quality
Technology advanced since then, we have better understanding about how brittle the steel is when exposed
Also her hull plates were riveted together unlike today's ships who use welded plates, riveted plates cracked open on joints on impact
Yeah, but they also said she did NOT break in half on the surface, throwing the whole sequence ass over teakettle into the did it/didn't it debate!
@@giggiddy "week"? Do you mean WEAK?
I love your channel so much!! I seriously can't get enough of your content. I recently re-watched Titanic (1997) and had been watching a bunch of Titanic related videos and suddenly got recommended your channel and have been binge-watching it for days! Thank you for all of the hard work and dedication you put into making these videos!
@iwannakillcommies not a bot haha i just like using the youtube emojis sometimes :)
Me too, last night actually
Same here!
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This one, Part Time Explorer, and Oceanliner Designs are the best Titanic channels
It's amazing that the ship held itself together until the final three or so minutes
7:48 "I believe you'll get your headlines now, Mr. Isnay."
@@Defender78 "Isnay"? I think you mean ISMAY - as in Bruce Ismay.
It truly was an engineering marvel!yes she sank but her build was stout and the craftsmanship was impeccable she just wasn't designed to be a submarine 😂 so all the extra water broke her
You explain these "way over my head" pieces of information about this magnificent ship so well! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!
It was a tug of war between the bow ,wanting to sink and the stern wanting to float. The force of that struggle tore Titanic apart
@jamesricker yes james it was tug of war at the end between the bow and the stern. But with that amount of water the bow was always going down, with tons of water come in every second? Its got no chance. But a just cant work out why the bulkheads only went up to 10ft on that deck? Of course water is going to go through the whole ship, its the same as not having them at all. A just dont get it at all. Its like a deliberate mistake, and i heard all the insurance storys years before this. Now i believe it. Having 10ft bulkheads in rooms 15ft high? Come on who did there maths on this? Plus she could of stayed afloat with 5 or 6 bulkhead rooms flooded, as it had 16. Thats confusing that bit of the ship. And its as if alot avoid talking about it, they go through the whole ship but not really the deck that was badly fitted and sank her.
I found your channel 2 years ago and you still amaze me with new things about the Titanic. I fell in love with the Titanic when I was 6 years old (that was back in 2005) and I learned much about the Titanic through out the years but with your channel and Oceanliner Designs I learned so much more about the Titanic and other ships. Thank you, for all your work.
Much love from Austria :)
Btw. 7 people from Austria were on the Titanic but back in the days it was still Austria-Hungary :)
Thank you, sam! Yours is one of my favorite channels in the entire youtube! You're like a comfort channel to me.
What an awesome channel. Thanks pal, when I see an new upload its better than Christmas
Thank you so much Sam for remembering all those people that watch your videos that Titanic existed, the Titanic will never be forgotten because of you. Thank you soo much.
I think it would be interesting to see a video of what would happen to the Olympic if it sustained the same damage as the Titanic after the refit.
This!
I would guess that it wouldn't have sunk; however, the Britannic sunk nearly 3 times as fast with all those "improvements".
@@weasel2173. Brittanic hit a mine though and that one had far more devastating effects compared to a single Iceberg. Brittanic would have been fine had it encounter the same obstacle as Titanic did. Actually, the ship was nearly saved by the captain after the mine incident. It was only lost when he had to lose time and give up when people were being lowered into lifeboats without his knowledge and getting pulled into the propellers. He stopped when he found out what was happening.
It wasn't even the mine, it was that the porthole windows on lower decks were left open, letting in water. Britannic could've survived the iceberg.
@@weasel2173 Do you even know how strong a mine blast is? The explosion rocked the entire ship, twisted and warped the hull, knocked her off course by at least 5 degrees and opened up a hole that was almost 20 feet wide. Her portholes were open and Bartlett made an effort to beach the ship. Comparing a chunk of ice to essentially a huge contact bomb doesn't make a lot of sense
This is so interesting, Sam and you did great research! Can you imagine watching that stern rise literally straight UP and out of the water. Or hearing the sounds of bending or breaking steel as she begins to break in two?
Just terrifying..
Great vid!
My mind is blown. I was always confused by the watertight compartments because they didn’t go to the top they weren’t watertight.
This has explained it so well.
Since I was about 6 in the early 90s I’ve been fascinated by the Titanic and also wondered about the bulkheads and the compartments and this explained it so clearly.
I’m intrigued by the topic of the break up. I recommend, for anyone interested, ‘Titanic: 20 years on with James Cameron’ (1997 film), where JC created a model to investigate the nature of the break-up. Specifically, how long before the bow detached with it’s double keel hanging on and the likely hood of this affect on the stern. It’s incredible and really aligns with peoples accounts that were there.
At 6:00. I’ve been in that room! It’s the main bar in what is now the Titanic Belfast Hotel, formerly the H&W offices. It’s so amazing to be in a room full of that history (even though it’s about £5 for a Coke!)
A rough demonstration of why Titanic's hull broke in two can be done by taking a full length pencil with the tip as the bow and the eraser as the stern. Place the middle of the pencil over a straight edge at at 45 degree angle (a counter or desk for example). Pull down on the top end of the pencil with one hand and the lower end with the other hand. When there is enough force, the pencil will break in two. This is similar to what happened with Titanic's breakup.
Thanks for these videos.
would you make a video about the official narrative of the ship breaking throughout history ? like of the ship breaking topic the next day , then in the court trials. then what the survivers , governments , companies all said for the next 70 years. Then what Ballard's expedition suspected before finding it. then what the world thought with the proof. stuff like this.
ive listened to dozens of hours of testimony and not the slightest mention of a break until 1985 , then it is mentioned prominently.
wow that was fast !!
note to anyone seeing my comment : historic travels already has my requested video made half a year ago. titled "Why did everyone think Titanic sank Intact?". very good episode. Somehow it didn't show up in my searches for half a year.
Sorry I just now saw that you did this! Thank you so much for doing that massive super thanks! Yes I already did make a video on that topic! Thanks again and Sorry!
Excellent channel my friend, glad to subscribe 🙂
I always find a lot of information discussed on these videos and similar channels were stated in the actual movie. Just goes to show how much research and analysis JC and the rest of the team put into the film!
Your dedication to this craft is astounding and I’m glad I found your channel
I found this channel because of the titan submersible. Thanks to Stockton Rush.
Titanics design for sure had flaws, but it did allow for the ship to remain relatively stable throughout the sinking, despite the massive damage.
@@exxxz1999a majority of cruise ships are actually worse in build quality which is why they always get battered in storms The Astoria (ex Stockholm) has been sailing through storms for 80 years and was never battered
Neither human error nor design flaws caused the sinking. Bad luck of a completely calm sea coupled with ice further south than expected caused the disaster
i just found your channel a few days ago and i love your videos☺️
Imagine being passenger on one of the lifeboats and hearing the Titanic's hull groaning under the immense strain and finally breaking in two. But all you could see was a black mass under a moonless night.
Your channel is a Godsend. Thank you Historic Travels
This channel rocks!!!!!
I remember a documentary highlighting the expansion joints that was one of the many flaws in the Titanic.
I saw something that say they worried Titanic could break into two in a storm, so they added more joints on Britttanic
They weren't a flaw. But a necessity for a ship this long. They did add another joint on Brittanic, but without them the ship could snap during a storm or finding herslef between 2 huge waves.
Strange how Olympic successfully sailed for over 20 years with so many flaws
@roadwarrior1459 There were flaws that were discovered when Olympic made her first maiden voyage. Those were addressed later one.
@@BHuang92 I still can't believe they scrapped the Olympic. What a bad decision. It should've been kept as a historical piece.
When I first became interested in the Titanic as a kid in the late 90s, I remember my uncle used to tell me that the ship actually broke into three pieces. I never believed him and dismissed his theory. Now all these years later after discovering where the Titanic actually broke in half, I think he really was onto something. In some ways, my uncle was kind of right. Great video!
I'm so stoked to see how fast your channel is growing. Congrats. Thanks for another great video, Sam.
You’ve presented this clearly and explained this topic professionally.
glad to see you back Sam !
Ty sam for another great video it makes my treatments go better
Hope ur doing ok friend
Love Historic Travels videos.... Keep me occupied daily. Thanks buddy
I appreciate how depict the smooth ocean water. Often with these shows, it is shown choppy, when in fact the witnesses reported it was a "millpond' smooth!
Great explanation. Every time I watch one of your videos, I learn something new
Thank you so much for your research!
I would love to see videos about these two topics:
1. The fall of the first funnel: what caused the sudden fall of the first funnel? Was it the steam in contact with the cold water? Was it the different pressure from the water and the air inside the funnel? It is weird that it fall over like that because at that time of the sinking the ship wasn’t that inclined yet to provoke that much of tension on the ropes that were holding the funnel.
2. The untouched objects within the wreckage of the ship: there are many pictures of the wreckage showing a few objects untouched in the exact same place and position they were before the sinking. How is that even possible? These objects like the table clock and the plates and glass bowls stored in some cabins are in the exact same spot they were in the ship before the tragedy, how they were not disturbed by the rushing water and the 20/30 degree inclined position of the ship during the sinking? And also the almost vertical position during the plunge to the ocean dephs? Please can you explain how is this even possible?
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Been loving your content!!
The weight of the engine room when she started to raise out of the ocean!!
Ships aren't designed to have their arse out of the water!
When Roy Mengot studied the breakup of the Titanic, Mengot asked which broke first, the keel or the boat deck? Mengot’s theory is that these opposing forces had the effect of compressing the mid-section of the ship, crushing it, particularly just aft of the accident, until the structure failed, the ship coming apart. This accounts for the missing midsection of the ship’s wreckage, it having been left in such small particles that it has effectively disappeared. Mengot emphasizes that the Titanic was a relatively hollow vessel once its basic structure was breached. He uses the metaphor of the folding of a hollow cylinder, as opposed to the snapping of a stick, the forces ultimately crushing the ship at the bottom. Once this happened, the forward part of the ship, heavy with water and suddenly freed from much of the weight of the stern, detached afore the third funnel, and pulled away, at some point separating completely from the stern. In one respect Mengot seems to be in agreement with the popular conjecture discussed below. Once the stern became completely severed from the rest of the ship by the initial break-up, it first fell back onto the ocean, in Mengot’s view from a 10 to 15 degree angle out of the water. Then, like a bobbing cork finding temporary equilibria, its Poop Deck briefly rose up out of the water again, after which this last remanant of the Titanic went under, sinking until at some two hundred feet below the surface it imploded. The 1998 analysis offers an alternative view. It refers to new evidence from the severed keel gathered during the 1998 expedition, indicating that there was excessive wear and tear of the keel. This leads to the conclusion that the keel remained attached to the stern, which was dragged down by the bow before being led down under the ocean, still loosely attached. The stern implodes, causing explosions some 200 feet below the surface. It is then said to detach completely from the keel some 500 feet below the water surface.
Your videos are great, along with Ocean Liner Designs... With all the Brightside nonsense around, we need people who know what they're talking about!
I've learned so much more about Titanic but one thing bugs me: what if they didn't slow down and just turned as hard as they could? Surely the faster a ship is moving, the greater the rate of turn? Surely reversing the engines sealed Titanic's fate? Love a video to clear that up!
I watched a documentary a while back and the researchers in it claimed the two sections were still held together by B-deck as the ship was descending to the bottom due to the relatively small debris field. Where as if the two sections went down separately the debris field would be much larger. Very interesting theory.
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The fact that you have a model of the iceberg made me laugh way to hard
One of The most accurate titanic youtuber 😊
James Cameron said in a recent interview I’m sure you’ve seen that Titanic was going full speed and captain showed bad seamanship. What’s your opinion on that?
He did not say that…
I know this is a thread video but can I just say thank you for keeping us updated when the summer sub went missing I work a lot so I couldn't follow the news about it and your video was extremely Helpful
Sam, I love your videos. As a fellow Titanic aficionado, I say thank you for constantly and faithfully sharing the story of the Titanic with us. Just out of curiosity, when did you first become interested in the Titanic?
Very enjoyable Sam excellent presentation as usual.
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This is the best explanation I've seen by far.
Thanks for another great video Sam!
This video is so perfect! Very well done!
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This dude rocks! So informative and clear and easy to understand.
Please never stop making videos i love your boat sinking videos so much and i hope to learn more of it
You are absolutely correct on the break up and what we all thought as well. Also when you look at the bow wreck all that deck housing at the break was right before the 3rd funnel. when the stern went down it imploded due to it going open end first with all the trapped air inside. Then the stern leveled itself going into a corkscrew sheering the 3rd funnel area and decks below it. I find it insane and scary how violent that part of the wreck is poop deck peeled back like a sardine can, starboard side exposed, port side blown out and the outer propellers bent upward went it hit the bottem.
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FANTASTIC and very THOROUGH explanation of something that has left me wondering for years! Absolutely excellent video!
Thank you for another wonderful video. I hope you and all your projects are thriving 🖤
WOULD be interesting to see a video completely about the iceberg, where did it possibly come from, how it got there, how big it was actually under the water and above the water, and where it floated afterward when it struck the Titanic. Did any other ship saw particularly that iceberg nearby and so on.....
You have a good passion for your preferred subject. If your tapped out content remember their is a Titanic conspiracy where they switched the olympic and the Titanic for insurance reasons before the sinking. Its pretty good
Marvellous documentary, thank you.
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I think the boilers started to come away from the floor too and slid toward the front of the ship. I think some of the loud booms people heard were boilers breaking away and crashing towards the bow. The boilers weren’t fastened down with bolts that could hold them if the ship started sinking at such a sharp degree.
Very fascinating and well explained. The animations in your videos are an amazing quality. 👍
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Any ship would break in two if sunk like the Titanic. To quote my naval architecture professor, if Godzilla picked up a ship by the bow, it would break in two.
V breaks can happen in rough seas where the bow and stern are supported by wave crests, while the trough of the wave doesn't support the midships.
James Cameron's Titanic was made to the earlier assumption on where the titular ship split in half. It was only then years later that the understanding on the ship's split and demise was refined. There is a NatGeo documentary where James Cameron and his team updated the animation on how the ship sank, and split.
By the way, I think Cameron's Titanic was the second film to depict the ship's split, the first one was the 1996 TV movie of the same title. It was in 1985 when the shipwreck was first discovered that the general assumption that the ship sank almost intact was debunked and confirmed many of the eyewitness accounts that the ship indeed split.
Cameron's newer documentary is actually further from what happend than where he showed in the film. The breakup did in fact start between the 3rd and 4th funnel, right on the aft expansion joint. Steel will always fail were the stress is highest, and that would have been the aft expansion joint since it ended in a point, focusing the stress.
Great video. I learned a lot more about this tragedy.
I would be very interested in a video from you covering the similarities between The Titanic Disaster and the book "Futility or The Wreck of the Titan" which was written in 1898.
I second! It's eerie the similarities almost makes you wonder if the author had a premonition?
Lately I've been obsessing over your videos. They're really easy to understand and grasp. Are you planning on making a video about the seoul ferry tragedy anytime soon? I think you'd be able to make a good video about it.
He hopefully will make one about the Sewol Ferry
Another banger, Sam!!
very nice video, sam. keep it up!
Really good video. Guy knows his stuff
I don't know why I am so excited to have this knowledge. But I am!
So informative. I fell in love with the Titanic history when i was little thanks to the '97 movie. So cool to see someone young (I'm a 90s kid) have such knowledge and passion. I like that I am still learning new things about the story! Thanks for this video.
This is a very informative video. Thank you.
Another great video!
love your videos always a good day
[I Have A Question] Why did the stern not stay afloat? If the back end had not substand damage from the ice burg and the ship had 16 water tight compartments and can stay afloat with 4 compartments breached of water and you said the stern was very buoyant then why did it sink after it broke away from the bow? After the break up there would have been only damage to the frunt half of the back half of the ship acting as another ship. There could not have been any more than 2 of its watertight compartments breached.
My kids ran for the tv. Theyve been waiting for a new video and nagging me about it 😂
Another Great Video!!
Thank you for telling me facts I’m writing in my journal about.
Thank you for covering this topic. It's great to learn accurate history of the Titanic.
The visual examples were great 👍.
It must have been such a scary sight to the people in the lifeboats to see Titanic ripping herself apart...
Amazing video as always, keep them coming!
Did they see it happen I know that a lot of survivors said it didn’t split in 2
They were only able to make it out from the outline in the stars. It was too dark to see anything at all
.......and then have nobody believe them for 73 years and 4 1/2 months.........
Power was lost shortly before it happened, but they could see the figure in the dark break in half and could see it. It would have been scary, but the first funnel that collapsed was apparently the scariest part before final plunge cause it nearly missed a lifeboat by inches and it crushed a large amount of people in full view of others. Each funnel weighed 120,000 pounds and so those caught under it would have died immediately and been crushed. The Baker in this video actually grabbed the railing and held on during final plunge and he said "It was like riding an elevator". This probably saved him from getting crushed underneath the ship, which probably happened to many unfortunate people in the water
The general trend was for the survivors in lifeboats, viewing the ship from the side, to testify that the ship split in half, while survivors who were closer to the bow section and were struggling in the water at the time of the break to testify that the ship sank in one piece. The reason that the official view favored the testimony of the survivors who were in a worse position to see the ship was that they were mostly men, including higher ranking officers, who had stayed with the ship until it sank, while those with the best angle to see the sinking were mostly women and children. It wasn't until the wreck itself was discovered that the women and children's testimony was proven to be correct.
The 1953 version of Titanic with Clifton Webb and Barbara Stanwyck (which IMO was the greatest goodbye scene in the history of cinema) didn't show the ship break in half. Did they discover that when they found the wreckage in 1985?
yea i would imagine after 9/11 calling the two broken mid-ship sections “tower 1 and tower 2” would get old pretty quick. but interesting as to how both tragedies are loosely connected even in some way.
Good morning. I would like to point out a few factors about how the Titanic really sank from that iceberg that she hit as well how the bow & stern broke apart too. First off, Titanic did have her side plates ripped open from the berg, but what the people who were doing their resources was that the hull was also scrapped from the bottom of the ship which made the freezing ocean water gush in the bow. And Second during Titanic's breakup of her bow & stern, I watched something on the Discovery Channel 12 years ago that these gentlemen had found Titanic's piece of her hull that broke off between her third & fourth funnel which was about 300-500(or more) feet away from the stern of the ship & that it was the very first thing that hit the ocean floor way before the bow hit & then the stern. So I just wanted to let you know a little bit more about the hull piece that the researchers missed out on.
Good video. Only thing I think is missing is what started the breakup and it seems to be glossed over a lot. Did the ship break up from the top down or from the bottom up?
I believe it was a bottom up scenario. As Sam already mentioned, the hull was under tremendous strain from the bow being underwater and the engines providing a counterbalance to the water flooding in the bow. Of course when a massive structure fails, it does so violently, so the keel fails and bends upwards, making the hull bulge outwards. Inside the ship, the areas directly on top of the now bent keel get shoved upwards into the decks above. This also shortened the ships bottom and now the decks above and super structure are stretched longer than they were designed to be. The bending of the keel and bulging of the hull creates fractures that run up to the top decks, the super structure stretching creates top down fractures that split the ship into the four major sections: the bow, the forward tower (basically the structure around the 3rd funnel uptake down to C or D deck to the aft expansion joint), the aft tower (first class smoking room, part of a dining room, port side of the boat deck, and a deckhouse), and the stern.
When the keel bent, the hull rips itself from the inner structure and floods the engine and turbine rooms, the first boiler room is damaged and boilers dislodged, the coal bunker is shoved into G deck, the forward cylinders of the engines snap and break off from the rest of the casing, then the two sections of double bottom and keel fall off of the structure. With nothing supporting these heavy objects, the boilers, coal bunkers, and engine cylinders crash through the bottom of the ship and head to the sea floor. Meanwhile, the two towers are still barely holding together by B deck, which is the lowest super structure deck but was reinforced for better stability and made to resist cracks during high seas. During the breakup, the super structure was stretched, bent, and smashed into itself. Finally B deck fails and the ship is fully separated as the bow twists to port and heads to the sea floor, the two towers following shortly after, leaving the stern alone on the surface to flood.
..Wow!...Great realistic analysis on the breaking... . 👌🏼
@@A.Netizen.Since.2010 That's a summary of what I think what happened to the ship according to Roy Mengot. His bottom up theory is the most plausible out of all the other scenarios presented over the years, taking survivor testimony into account how the stern behaved after the breakup. The evidence for what I described can be taken from multiple testimonies that stated about the time of the breakup, they heard what sounded like heavy machinery dislodging and crashing through the ship. We know that this happened because the boilers from Room 1, coal, and the forward cylinders of the engines are on the sea floor a short distance away or close to the "hypocenter" (lets just say this area was directly below the ship during the sinking) and heavy objects like the engines or boilers would not have moved far from where the ship was at the surface.
I don't mean to detract from Sam's presentation, but I think this video is a perfect example and explains in detail what Mengot's theory proposed: th-cam.com/video/ggu5Moi2GEM/w-d-xo.html
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I love the way you explain to help me understand what your talking about great job
We learned about this in the 1990's. But never hurts to catch the younger folks up with the whys.
In regards to the damage done to the starboard bow of the Titanic, Sam, it wasn't just a series of small punctures it was also a whole lot of popped rivets and buckled shell-plating that parted at the seams.
On another note, Sam, if only the forward five compartments had been breached how much longer would the Titanic have stayed afloat?
For decades only one little girl said it broke in half. Only after it was found and after the movie did people start to realize that lil girl was right.
The girl said the rear rose up in the darkness but she said she saw the silhouette raise up then flop over on its side before it finially sunk. Which no one says happened til today. I think she was right only a child could have a singular focus on the ship and not be distracted by all of what's going
What if they had made a fracture on the last 4 sections of the stern to get the water in there as well. Do you think that would have prevented the water going over the top of the bulkheads?
I’ve heard it didn’t actually puncture anything since steel is harder than ice, but it popped the rivets all the time it was sliding against the hull. Had the titanic been welded she would’ve been fine.
Titanic was made of iron, not steel
@@Orly90 Wait I looked it up and found this "Titanic was built between 1911 and 1912. She was constructed of thousands of one inch-thick mild steel plates and two million steel and wrought iron rivets"
@@Orly90 she was made of steel. Ships had been since the late 1800’s. Certain parts may have been iron that didn’t need as much strength.
If only they had welding back then
@@bilbojesty Welding was even worse. Almost any welded ship back then was destined to sink, welding was a new concept and in it's infancy so nobody really knew how to do it properly
I really enjoy all the videos and not so well known information you manage to reveal in every episode, I always learn something new every time, “however” my friends and I have started a drinking game that involves taking a drink each time you say “however” lol
The idea of what that must've sounded like gives me chills just by imagination, and I'm sure my imagination doesn't even come close.
The inquiry into the sinking concluded that the Titanic sank in one piece; a conclusion maintained in "A Night to Remember". It wasn't discovered conclusively that the ship had broken in two until the wreck was discovered by Robert Ballard in 1985.