How is this an act of terror and not any of the mass shootings that seem to happen on a daily basis? Maybe you need to examine how you define terrorism.
I don't understand why this is so complicated for people. He detailed in his manifesto that he's targeting a specific person, head of a company, for the sole purpose that he disagreed with the ideological reasons behind the company's profitability and wanted to disrupt the social consciousness about it through intimidation and fear. This is the textbook definition of terrorism. As an aside, for someone with an engineering degree he's not too bright. His argument is that the healthcare system and the life expectancy are causally linked; in his mind if you're the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world its illogical that life expectancy of the populus can be #42. But what he doesn't acknowledge is that the average american is unhealthy (overweight, sedentary, and b/c of these things possess chronic illness) and this is what is impacting life expectancy not that the profitability of the healthcare system is at the cost of lowering life expectancy....
IMHOFWIW, the charges of terrorism were added because of the public response to the killing. Luigi became a folk hero for murdering a man who was a symbol of cold hearted greed. We don't know if Luigi intended this.
Whether he intended to become a folk hero or not is irrelevant to the charges as presented; they are adding the terrorism charge purely to make an example of him.
The media has already tried him and found him guilty and they are currently executing his character. My hope and dream is that they will pay for what they are doing.
@@mile_high_topher Maybe but he never did anything to this guy. Those families might have had a beef but not this guy. This guy is rich and has never had united health care insurance.
Luigi has done more for health insurance reform with this one act then all of the politicians and protesters and patients and doctors combined. Please tell us other ways to solve this issue.
Have a conversation. Petition your elected representatives. Like you've been doing for decades. That's the American way. Just keep doing the same old whether it works or not.
What? What’s changed? Absolutely nothing. lol The only thing that is going to come from all this is a life sentence behind bars for that kid. The story is already old news and he will be forgotten in a few months.
What fu king “health care reform?” Poor people in America pay no money for healthcare! Middle class pay according to their income and rich people pay their dues fine. What’s the problem?
Agree! In Europe we have public healthcare and its inhumane to see how the US system works. Not to mention the bad food they give to People there and that ONLY make them sick and after they deny care and make profit Over lives? Disgusting
The lawyers are jumping the gun to be speculating about terrorism. Luigi was completely off the grid for 6 months and when he came out of hiding, he transformed himself into a cold-blooded person. Isn't that fact worth looking into? It's being totally ignored.
@@jamesswain2465 to be honest, I’d be heartbroken (if it were my son. No one else) and probably wouldn’t say anything at all, but it wouldn’t surprise me that it happened. I hope to raise my son right though and that he doesn’t grow up to be anything like Brian Thompson. I wouldn’t have anything to do with other family members if they chose that type of career.
I respect this host/lady far more than anyone I've seen discussing this topic thus far in the media. Bravo, she at least tries to present what the mass majority of Americans are talking about at the dinner table. Instead of outright lying/trying to gaslight us all.
I thought you guys were against ğůṅ vîóļéŋćé?🤔 It's almost like you guys don't actually care about that. It's almost like your moral standards flip flop and change depending on what you think gives your side power in the moment.....
@@DeltaTango2024 It's not so much that you're all Russian, it's that the people who give you your "news" were caught red handed getting paid by Russia to lie to you.
@@commonsense3632 The problem isn't whether she "told the truth", the problem is that she spoke up and challenged the opinion of the elites that want Luigi to have maximum suffering for what he did.
She's the only one out of all the news outlets who at least tries to present other arguments. I respect her for that. That's how low the bar has gotten on this issue.
I appreciate the host’s comparison to Daniel Penny… it’s not the crime, it’s that the public is facing insurmountable problems that government is doing nothing to help.
So the american people have gotten so desperate they are trying to solve their problems with violence, and this guy's reaction is: well we should just write stricter laws to deter people. Actually helping the desperate and creating a better society is so absurd to him it doesn't even register as a thought.
I can't help but feel sorry for this young man, yes he murdered someone. that is so wrong. He had so much to live for, however for some reason he took the wrong path. The man that was killed was innocent. Sure, he worked for a company in the USA which is legal to run in the states. Wouldn't be able to run like that in Canada or anywhere else. Alot of pent up anger towards this healthcare industry I wasn't aware was there. Deny, Delay, Decline, outrages monthly premiums. Blame the politicians that aloud this monster to get out of control. Luigi clearly had some info on how the system works. His family owns care facilities so he's aware of how healthcare in the USA works. Sad. I hope he gets off lightly.
Mangione's personal vendetta on 1 person is not terrorism, at least not by method. He didn't attack anybody else. I do see why politically they want to charge him with that title because they want to put his head on pike to discourage others from imitating him. But i doubt they will manage to convict him on terrorism. What is worrying is police can use terrorism charges very lightly to book people in jail basically extralegally by claiming suspicion or intent. The question here is the US instead of reforming, becoming a reactionary police state enforcing the primacy of Corporate America on the expense of the public. By inter class repression via tools that where put in place to safeguard the whole public instead of safeguarding the rich against the poor? This containment strategy is leaning to repression and that can have very negative consequences by historical president. A clear lack of competence at handling this situation wisely is in full display. This kind of rushed ill though trough handling is quite adolescent behaviour. What is even more disgusting is that Penny is parading with the president elect because he killed a person supposedly "justified" because the victim who was mentally ill was acting dangerously. Why is Penny allowed to be a Hero for killing a homeless person that could have been stopped without killing him. This double standard is dystopian and immoral. And btw a CEO is not a public official.
These insurance companies have destroyed lives since they started business! I'm sorry for the family but I'm sure they will do quite well since I'm also sure he insured everything and everyone in his possession. But I highly doubt this killing is going to change anything. They just go silent and wait.
Ok. Lets end healthcare insurances!! Now what!!? Smartguy!!? .. doctors, nurses, techs and everyone still want to earn over the $100,000!! And still add hospitals and medicines!!… so what “genius!!?” We all should have “free healthcare?” …. Who the fu q!!! Pays!!? Elon?
My heart is breaking for Luigi Mangione. I pray God grant him favor. Luigi is innocent in heart, mind and spirit. It is right and just to acquit Luigi Mangioni. It's time for true health care reform for our nation. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
“Health care reform?” What the fu q really is that? Doctors , nurses, techs and hospitals still will charge by the hundred thousands… so what? You people what “free healthcare?” Who the fu q pays?
You do realize that most of America is rooting for him, right? And people from other countries? I’m a conservative Christian who hopes he walks free and I know a republican police officer who is on his side.
@@sergeant_salty what does my photo have to do with anything?.. lol. I did use a grainy Snapchat filter, and I was also tan at the time and clearly wearing makeup. I have the same profile pic on my Instagram (same name there and on Snapchat). Idk if you’re implying that I’m a bot or what, but I’m very much real. Though that IS the cutest pic of me 🤣
Its intriguing watching all you guys demand ĝùṅ control because of a §čĥóọľ $ĥọőţịŋğ, but cheer for this guys actions in basically the same sentence. Its almost like you guys dont actually have a moral standard at all. 🤷♂️
Luigi Mangione is guilty of murder in the first degree. He will spend the remainder of his life in prison. That is, until the next Democrat president pardons him.
Our Government is the act of Terrorism to the people of the United States. And by their side , Health insurance policies. Id like to know how many others in New York have killed one person that was charged under the terrorism act? School shootings, etc? Or could it be due to public opinion?
We built a beutiful place on its own island for awesome people like Luigi..We call it Rikers Island Prison....One with steel beds for your bad back and filled with loved ones just like Luigi..When they extradite the little punk this will be home till trial.....BYE LUIGI!
It's Not a government policy. The insurance company is Not the government.
Unless they are telling y'all that it is .....
Why aren’t mass shooters charged with terrorism? Wouldn’t their acts be considered trying to affect government policy with gun controls??
They don’t injure CEOs.
@@HereticReborn CEOs > Kids
@@HereticReborn the irony
Trying to effect gun laws while using a gun?
How is this an act of terror and not any of the mass shootings that seem to happen on a daily basis? Maybe you need to examine how you define terrorism.
I don't understand why this is so complicated for people. He detailed in his manifesto that he's targeting a specific person, head of a company, for the sole purpose that he disagreed with the ideological reasons behind the company's profitability and wanted to disrupt the social consciousness about it through intimidation and fear. This is the textbook definition of terrorism.
As an aside, for someone with an engineering degree he's not too bright. His argument is that the healthcare system and the life expectancy are causally linked; in his mind if you're the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world its illogical that life expectancy of the populus can be #42. But what he doesn't acknowledge is that the average american is unhealthy (overweight, sedentary, and b/c of these things possess chronic illness) and this is what is impacting life expectancy not that the profitability of the healthcare system is at the cost of lowering life expectancy....
Terrorism was Made to fit the US government wishes. People should stop using that word
It's politically motivated.
IMHOFWIW, the charges of terrorism were added because of the public response to the killing. Luigi became a folk hero for murdering a man who was a symbol of cold hearted greed. We don't know if Luigi intended this.
Whether he intended to become a folk hero or not is irrelevant to the charges as presented; they are adding the terrorism charge purely to make an example of him.
The media has already tried him and found him guilty and they are currently executing his character. My hope and dream is that they will pay for what they are doing.
Youve seen the video right? Dude shot someone in the back like a cvnt.
@@CaptainChaooooos I saw how many families Brian destroyed for profit. Who's the bad guy?
@@mile_high_topherYou 👆
Of course they have. They all work for CEOs.
@@mile_high_topher Maybe but he never did anything to this guy. Those families might have had a beef but not this guy. This guy is rich and has never had united health care insurance.
Luigi has done more for health insurance reform with this one act then all of the politicians and protesters and patients and doctors combined. Please tell us other ways to solve this issue.
😂 Nothing has changed. Stop being gullible.
Have a conversation. Petition your elected representatives. Like you've been doing for decades. That's the American way. Just keep doing the same old whether it works or not.
@@cc8751 Tell that to Blue Cross, who reversed their policy limiting anesthetic coverage during surgery in the aftermath of this public assassination.
That's probably one of the most ignorant statements I've ever seen in my life
What? What’s changed? Absolutely nothing. lol The only thing that is going to come from all this is a life sentence behind bars for that kid. The story is already old news and he will be forgotten in a few months.
FREE LUIGI! Sending support from Croatia!
Americans, don’t let his action go to waste. Demand healthcare reform!
Another communist that defendí a killer
We thank you 🤍🇺🇸
What fu king “health care reform?” Poor people in America pay no money for healthcare! Middle class pay according to their income and rich people pay their dues fine. What’s the problem?
Agree! In Europe we have public healthcare and its inhumane to see how the US system works. Not to mention the bad food they give to People there and that ONLY make them sick and after they deny care and make profit Over lives? Disgusting
Do Croatian shoot successful people in the back? Kinda a cvnt move if you ask me.
I hate these talking heads
The lawyers are jumping the gun to be speculating about terrorism. Luigi was completely off the grid for 6 months and when he came out of hiding, he transformed himself into a cold-blooded person. Isn't that fact worth looking into? It's being totally ignored.
2 words: jury nullification. Make it happen America.
YES.🤞🤍
You wouldn't be saying this if your parents, spouse, kids, siblings were CEO of an insurance company.
@@jamesswain2465 to be honest, I’d be heartbroken (if it were my son. No one else) and probably wouldn’t say anything at all, but it wouldn’t surprise me that it happened. I hope to raise my son right though and that he doesn’t grow up to be anything like Brian Thompson. I wouldn’t have anything to do with other family members if they chose that type of career.
So the left has declared war on success. Sounds about right. Careful what you wish for little sheep. Anarchy would not serve you well.
No. It’s not terrorism. Revolutionary? Maybe.
Murder you mean? The cvnt shot someone in the back.
I respect this host/lady far more than anyone I've seen discussing this topic thus far in the media. Bravo, she at least tries to present what the mass majority of Americans are talking about at the dinner table. Instead of outright lying/trying to gaslight us all.
You know, those hands on his neck in the angriest looking frame you people could find?
They add to the opposite effect you're going for.
Free Luigi!
Why? He’s a murderer.
@@CaptainChaooooos You’re a mook😒
I thought you guys were against ğůṅ vîóļéŋćé?🤔
It's almost like you guys don't actually care about that. It's almost like your moral standards flip flop and change depending on what you think gives your side power in the moment.....
@@rustyshackleford5830 Aren't you republicans all about using the 2a to prevent tyranny?
@@rustyshackleford5830 Using the 2a to stop tyranny seems pretty on brand to me.
The prosecutors need to be prosecuted.
Constitutional due process right of defend and respond to charges against an individual.
Breaking news, Luigi had his last McDonald's
Do you have McDonalds restaurants back there in russia?
@@DuaneHallinSD how'd Trump win the popular vote if we're all Russian?
@@DeltaTango2024 You’re a mook😒
@@DeltaTango2024 It's not so much that you're all Russian, it's that the people who give you your "news" were caught red handed getting paid by Russia to lie to you.
@@DeltaTango2024 Rigged election...
Free Luigi
The prosecutor needs to stop being so lazy and just throwing every last possible charge to see what sticks
This journalist is going to lose her job for speaking the truth
LOL< I don't think any MSNBC journalist has ever told the truth.
@@commonsense3632 The problem isn't whether she "told the truth", the problem is that she spoke up and challenged the opinion of the elites that want Luigi to have maximum suffering for what he did.
She's the only one out of all the news outlets who at least tries to present other arguments. I respect her for that. That's how low the bar has gotten on this issue.
Your frickin job is to have an opinion valid or not...
Is the accusation of terrorism a disgusting maneuver to end up in a dead-end trial?
WE LOVE THE LUIGI😮
We? Other cvnts who would shoot a man in the back?
I appreciate the host’s comparison to Daniel Penny… it’s not the crime, it’s that the public is facing insurmountable problems that government is doing nothing to help.
The act of terror is from the insurance companies
So the american people have gotten so desperate they are trying to solve their problems with violence, and this guy's reaction is: well we should just write stricter laws to deter people. Actually helping the desperate and creating a better society is so absurd to him it doesn't even register as a thought.
I can't help but feel sorry for this young man, yes he murdered someone. that is so wrong. He had so much to live for, however for some reason he took the wrong path. The man that was killed was innocent. Sure, he worked for a company in the USA which is legal to run in the states. Wouldn't be able to run like that in Canada or anywhere else. Alot of pent up anger towards this healthcare industry I wasn't aware was there. Deny, Delay, Decline, outrages monthly premiums. Blame the politicians that aloud this monster to get out of control. Luigi clearly had some info on how the system works. His family owns care facilities so he's aware of how healthcare in the USA works. Sad. I hope he gets off lightly.
Off the rails with B.S. boycott Comcast
Mangione's personal vendetta on 1 person is not terrorism, at least not by method. He didn't attack anybody else. I do see why politically they want to charge him with that title because they want to put his head on pike to discourage others from imitating him. But i doubt they will manage to convict him on terrorism. What is worrying is police can use terrorism charges very lightly to book people in jail basically extralegally by claiming suspicion or intent. The question here is the US instead of reforming, becoming a reactionary police state enforcing the primacy of Corporate America on the expense of the public. By inter class repression via tools that where put in place to safeguard the whole public instead of safeguarding the rich against the poor? This containment strategy is leaning to repression and that can have very negative consequences by historical president. A clear lack of competence at handling this situation wisely is in full display. This kind of rushed ill though trough handling is quite adolescent behaviour. What is even more disgusting is that Penny is parading with the president elect because he killed a person supposedly "justified" because the victim who was mentally ill was acting dangerously. Why is Penny allowed to be a Hero for killing a homeless person that could have been stopped without killing him. This double standard is dystopian and immoral. And btw a CEO is not a public official.
Bad take as usual
#42 biblical meaning illuminati its a message
These insurance companies have destroyed lives since they started business! I'm sorry for the family but I'm sure they will do quite well since I'm also sure he insured everything and everyone in his possession. But I highly doubt this killing is going to change anything.
They just go silent and wait.
Ok. Lets end healthcare insurances!! Now what!!? Smartguy!!? .. doctors, nurses, techs and everyone still want to earn over the $100,000!! And still add hospitals and medicines!!… so what “genius!!?” We all should have “free healthcare?” …. Who the fu q!!! Pays!!? Elon?
My heart is breaking for Luigi Mangione. I pray God grant him favor. Luigi is innocent in heart, mind and spirit. It is right and just to acquit Luigi Mangioni. It's time for true health care reform for our nation. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
“Health care reform?” What the fu q really is that? Doctors , nurses, techs and hospitals still will charge by the hundred thousands… so what? You people what “free healthcare?” Who the fu q pays?
Pelosi
Trump should have been charged with terrorism.
Facepalm 🤦
No
If the J6ers can be pardoned, why not him? Asking for a friend.
J6ers were convicted of federal crimes. These are state crimes. Some governor of New York could pardon him, if they wanted to.
Trump: "They're eating the dogs"
Dems: That is TERRORISM!!
Luigi: Shoots a man in the back
Dems: I don't see the problem
Lying to cause harm to innocent people vs a healthcare CEO who got rich denying coverage to people who needed it.
You do realize that most of America is rooting for him, right? And people from other countries? I’m a conservative Christian who hopes he walks free and I know a republican police officer who is on his side.
@lindsayceara and I'm sure that's a real, unedited picture of you on your profile😂 you're so convincing!
@@sergeant_salty what does my photo have to do with anything?.. lol. I did use a grainy Snapchat filter, and I was also tan at the time and clearly wearing makeup. I have the same profile pic on my Instagram (same name there and on Snapchat). Idk if you’re implying that I’m a bot or what, but I’m very much real. Though that IS the cutest pic of me 🤣
The left is nothing if not hypocritical
MSNBC, why are you still here? Go away!
I suppot the latest thing 😷🐑🤖💙
🐑 ☠️
It was for political change, so yes.
That definition can fit pretty much anything.
By that logic Trump would be guilty of terrorism multiple times over
@mile_high_topher "anything" is mùřɗèř for political gain? I'm doing laundry right now. That's anything. Does that count?
@@mile_high_topherI heard you turn door knobs with your mouth
Based on what? Twitter and Goodreads?
Your perception or reaction does not mean his intention. It was personal for that ceo.
Its intriguing watching all you guys demand ĝùṅ control because of a §čĥóọľ $ĥọőţịŋğ, but cheer for this guys actions in basically the same sentence. Its almost like you guys dont actually have a moral standard at all. 🤷♂️
Same argument applies to you being appalled at Luigi, but school shootings are the cost of doing business.
Kids matter, people who make profit off destroying families don't. Easy enough?
@@mile_high_topher
No body is cheering for school shootings. We want school security but you guys want everyone to be defenceless.
Kinda like how y’all claim to be pro-life and won’t go for g*n control, masking in a deadly pandemic, and think razor wire drowning people is okay.
It's intriguing watching you all send Tots and Pears to more families burying their kids while you scramble to pretend CEOs are people too.
Luigi Mangione is guilty of murder in the first degree.
He will spend the remainder of his life in prison.
That is, until the next Democrat president pardons him.
Absolutely
I pray Linguini goes to prison for a very very very very very very very very very very long time.
Luigi deserves to spend the rest of his life free and free of back pain 🙏
Our Government is the act of Terrorism to the people of the United States. And by their side , Health insurance policies. Id like to know how many others in New York have killed one person that was charged under the terrorism act? School shootings, etc? Or could it be due to public opinion?
@@mile_high_topher Linguini will be in a cramped cell with a hard bed that’s not so good for his back.
Disagree. He has to be free and changes your malice health system as the first able person. ❤
We built a beutiful place on its own island for awesome people like Luigi..We call it Rikers Island Prison....One with steel beds for your bad back and filled with loved ones just like Luigi..When they extradite the little punk this will be home till trial.....BYE LUIGI!
You’re jealous
@@charlesfriscia7236 why do you hate your long distance Sicilian cousin so much?
Jury nullification for Luigi! 🤍🙏
Don’t even call me a “dem”, I’m a conservative Christian. Some of you are tone deaf, I’m sorry.