How to make copper sulfate from copper metal
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In this video You can see one way to dissolve copper metal without nitric acid.
This technic involves concentrated sulfuric acid and a nitrate salt. When those are mixed -there is nitric acid in the solution, so copper will react with it, but because of excess sulfuric acid - copper nitrate will eventually become copper sulfate!
Be careful when handling Strong acids! Nitrogen oxides are extremely toxic! Copper salts are Harmful, Irritant and Dangerous for The environment!
By more careful purification - yield can be much better!
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The most terrifying chemistry video ever.
Lol
I agree
Remember when NileRed did put warning texts in his older videos?
@@gyrofrank This guy obviously never read any of them🤣😆
The guy is a moron as this goes against every chemistry practice known.
The music is really intense
Drew Jaqua yes i agree. I am PROFESSIONAL NOW!
Well, I was taught never add water to acid. You are the only person I've run across who doesn't seem to mind doing it that way.
Really
music makes it sound like something you should not be doing,,kinda like about to commit murder or blow yourself up
the music sounds like you are making a bomb...
😂
The way you took out time to answer almost every comment calmly (even annoying ones) shows you have the heart of a good teacher. I learned a lot from this video and will attempt it soon. Keep it up please.
Thanks!
I evaluate curiosity, and love to give knowledge I have gathered by simply being curious! Also teaching others is the best way to learn!
Give it a try, and stay safe! NOx gasses are toxic, so be careful! And if You have any questions - I will try my best to answer them!
Good luck! :)
Just one question please. What was the ratio of the ammonium nitrate to the conc. Sulphuric acid? And how did you mix them. It wasn't shown in the video. Thank you
@@onadejibabatunde8983
If I remember it right, I had nitrate crystals mixed in acid, I did it long before I filmed this video, so I did not show the mixing, but I just combined acid and crystals, and had it sitting in a bottle for a long time.
I suggest You to add fine nitrate powder to acid in small portions in case heat is generated. add a small portion mix it, check the temperature and if it is not getting too hot add more until You added all. My mixture had some crystals on the bottom, probably sulfates and nitrates that did not dissolve.
I have answered similar question, so here is copy of my answer:
"Check this site for amounts:
www.webqc.org/balance.php?reaction=KNO3%2BH2SO4%2BCu%3DK2SO4%2BCuSO4%2BNO%2BH2O
To dissolve 10 Cu, You need 10g KNO3 and 20g H2SO4(100%) or 50g H2SO4(40%)(assumed battery acid strength),
We have 2 main reactions in here:
1) Sulfuric acid reacts with nitrate salt, to make nitric acid
2) Nitric acid reacts with copper to dissolve it and make copper nitrate
Because sulfuric acid is in excess, it will then react with copper nitrate to make copper sulfate and nitric acid, which will dissolve more copper.
Because HNO3 release nitric oxides (brown toxic gas), Nitrate ions are also consumed in this reaction. Less so, if concentration is small.
If You have patience, You can use dilute battery acid, few days and You copper should dissolve, but I have not done dilute reaction, so I do not know how it would go. "
@@TheMrbunGee Wow! Exhaustive information. Am now equiped enough for this experiment. I will let you in on how successful I was at it when done. Am so grateful!
The music....I watched this with the lights out in my room. At 4:52 I got really scared.
:D
Had to leave. Music did my head in.
Neat! Love the technique. Great channel!
Thanks! :)
It would be great to see this reaction carried out with the nitrogen dioxide being captured and converted into nitric acid. This could in principle be continued indefinitely given unlimited copper and sulfuric acid.
True, but I have no lab ware to carry that out.. :(
The music and chemistry suspenseful!
Perfect measure with the h20 :)
Excellent music, voice and near overflow with nitrogen dioxide fumes
Thanks! :)
TheMrbunGee please watch hammer studios lost continent movie after breathing the nitrogen dioxide fumes
THEN eat the copper sulfide and watch Green Slime movie!
You should never pour water on concentrated acid, it should have been done the other way around
That is kind of true, but way overdone. It is like mercury toxicity - way too exaggerated.
Bingo! This guy is not a chemist.
This video could be vastly improved by removing that dreadful music. I had to mute it to get through the video. Showing some chemical reactions on a side box would make it more education too. just a recommendation.
Feels like Pinhead from Hellraiser about to dissolve a victim... and then pour himself a drink.
differentiating between "close" (shut) and "close" (near) must be hard for Siri lol
:D
thanks for the video.
Creepy vids bro. Keep it up
Red-Brown fumes are nitrogen dioxide/dinitrogen tetroxide and should under no circumstances be inhaled, as they can cause delayed edema of the lungs - a very serious condition whose symptoms may be delayed several hours and can be fatal if the exposure to inhaled NO2 was intense. Never do this indoors without an extracting fumehood such as found in laboratories, or outdoors only in a well ventilated area.
Which acid analysis in this experiment.
Mwhahahaha give my creation LIFE!
amazing
If you added a condenser column and cooling, you could’ve collected the vapor and condensed it into concentrated nitric acid. It’s the same way I make mine(sulphuric acid and nitrate salts) idk tho maybe heat it but not to boiling point so it won’t bring up copper also.
True! :)
I rolled this out today ie Monday the 28th of August macroscaled it by using drain opener acid and calcium nitrate fertilizer that I crushed and put in a soda bottle and added a gram of copper wire cut in strands with a scissor and would you believe I managed to pull it off pretty well with exceptions of insoluble sulfate in solution that hampered the reaction but brown fumes were pretty copious and adding water both accelerated temperature and rate of reaction concurrently. Thanks a lot for your presentation.
Thanks, glad to be helpful!
i came here to try to make some sulphate. This music is terrifying
Still, great method!
Sorry about that. :/
@@TheMrbunGee Don’t worry though, it still is a good tutorial!
Would you do a similar fascinating video on manufacture of arguably the most dangerous chemical encountered in the laboratory ie anhydrous perchloric acid(HClO4) but unfound on video till today?It'd be a first and rocket popularity of your channel sky high?
No but it's a fascinating experiment by itself and truth is chemicals aren't as dangerous as the socialist system would have you believe they've freely experimented to chloric acid now this is just a notch up!
i dint understood that how did the fumes stoped
Reaction stopped.
First off, that music made a chemical reaction have as much suspense as any movie I've seen. Secondly, would it be at all incorrect to assume that the blue color of the crystals has any relation to the blue color of the "patina" that forms on copper metal when exposed to salt water or other mild corrosives? That deep amber smoke(?) is quite fascinating as well, what is it's composition?
Thanks!
Color is related, Copper compounds tend to be blue/green, the patina is a layer of carbonate, sulfate and other copper compounds (mostly carbonate, because it is insoluble) Copper oxidizes in air and copper oxide then reacts with acidic stuff in air to form this green layer.
TheMrbunGee wow awesome!
Forgot about the gas, that is NOx or nitrogen oxide mixture (Dinitrogen tetroxide and Nitrogen dioxide) toxic gas with sharp, biting odor.
TheMrbunGee which nitrate are you using
Ammonium nitrate.
Sounds like a horror movie 🍿 I can see why the reaction was done in an open container. Still nitric acid is a very useful byproduct. Heat resistant glassware is a must an overflow precautions. A pyrex casserole dish would be good.
NO2 fumes from Cu and H2SO4? hmmm
+SpuDy buGGed
There is nitric acid because of nitrate salt in H2SO4! Read the description! :)
+TheMrbunGee Thx, i saw it now
I think n the video they confused & told Sulphuric acid. that is Nitric acid. not sulphuric acid. from nitric only red fumes will generate. basic mistake in the video.
if anybody does, no outcome will come. misguided video
how much copper can i desolve using your coil method ? i finally made crystal using car battry acid and your coil method but. will it be better to concentrate barrty acid first? if i keep conecting fresh copper will it desolve forever or will the acid burn off eventually?
Check this site for amounts:
www.webqc.org/balance.php?reaction=KNO3%2BH2SO4%2BCu%3DK2SO4%2BCuSO4%2BNO%2BH2O
To dissolve 10 Cu, You need 10g KNO3 and 20g H2SO4(100%) or 50g H2SO4(40%)(assumed battery acid strength),
We have 2 main reactions in here:
1) Sulfuric acid reacts with nitrate salt, to make nitric acid
2) Nitric acid reacts with copper to dissolve it and make copper nitrate
Because sulfuric acid is in excess, it will then react with copper nitrate to make copper sulfate and nitric acid, which will dissolve more copper.
Because HNO3 release nitric oxides (brown toxic gas), Nitrate ions are also consumed in this reaction. Less so, if concentration is small.
If You have patience, You can use dilute battery acid, few days and You copper should dissolve, but I have not done dilute reaction, so I do not know how it would go. Try it.
Which of this merhods can be used to produce copper sulphate in large scale.
In large scale it is produced directly from sulfuric acid and copper metal.
Cool Video.. is that pure enough to use for electroplating copper on something I wanna plate ?
Thanks! I would say - yes, but you can always purify by recrystallization!
Use it as your electrictrolyte, an a chunk of copper as your cathode
The music man... LOL
Sorry! :D
Normal people: cool experiment!
9 year olds:OmG foRtNitE ShieLD POtIOn oMg
Lmaooo underated
Feel like I am watching a horror movie 🍿
How can we make copper into white Ash.
I guess You mean anhydrous Copper sulfate, I that case you heat this until white.
You may want to consider getting a bubbler and put that brown gas to some good use. That way your expensive and hard to get nitric acid is going to be readily available and free.
Yeah, sure, I could have made about 30 ml of HNO3 in best case, but as you can see I am quite short of lab equipment in general. This reaction might be much more efficient if proper equipment were in place. :)
I understand your point , just thought it was worth mentioning since you mentioned hard to get chemicals . Same problem here , not everything is readily available and most prices are prohibitive for the amateur chemist .
@@TheMrbunGee you could bubble it through a sodium or potassium hydroxide solution and get a nitrite salt.
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Yeah, like gram or two of salt. noth worth it in my case. :D
What's the title of the song? It sounds pretty cool tbh
I made it myself, as you can hear - I'm not a musician. :D
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did you wear gloves
Zinc sulphate banane ka tarika bataen thanks
Easiest way would be simply reacting zinc metal to sulphuric acid in small scale.
Zn + H2SO4 + 7 H2O → ZnSO4·7H2O + H2
Do you have access to cheap hydrogen peroxide? It would perform the oxidation step quite well without making toxic fumes and with only a small amount of added impurities.
True, but peroxide for me is hard to get and expensive, this is way cheaper and i think faster also.
H202 can buy at a beauty supply, that uses to color hair. 15, 20, 30, and 40 vol peroxide.
do you know of a place on line I can find out all the uses for copper sulfate .
dan van der torre
Wikipedia, also you can make many other copper salts from the sulfate.
thanks
so basically you just used concentrated sulfuric acid and copper? I thought I heard you say you used nitrate salt with the h2so4? I would think that would be KNO3 then?
Yes, but I used ammonium nitrate and sulfuric acid in excess, to dissolve copper.
Could you use potassium nitrate instead
Wait doesn't copper sulfate dissolve in water? Would it have been easier to electrically fragnate
If you mean by electrolysis - no, it would be much harder to obtain quantitative amounts of CuSO4.
In my school we used copper oxide
yes, that is much easier..
The music is quite ....creepy ?
text books always claim that Cu and concentrated H2SO4 react to give CuSO4, SO2 and H2O but I have never seen that reaction. Anyone tried it?
Hot, concentrated H2SO4 very slowly attacks copper.
I knew it has to be hot and concentrated, but I have no clue about the speed of the reaction. Is it slow even if the copper is finely powdered?
SuperAngelofglory it is still slow with copper powder, but im not sure how about even smaller particles. I don't think it would be useful reaction to get copper sulfate..
But this guy seems using nitric acid.
Gloves?
Yes, You should use them if you do this.
This video is terrifying lol
the music makes you think something bad is going to happen ,I am shear one day we will see him taking someone duck taped to a dolly in the woods .lol jk
dan van der torre
Soon..
RDX makes good things happen when your board in the woods .
Can I do this with water lol I don't know about chemistry that's why I am doing this question
No. Only exact listed chemicals will produce this reaction.
can the gases coming out be made into nitric acid ?
yep
I will do that the next time my neighbour gets on my nerves. Why use electrolysis when you can generate tons of no2 and hno3. The music is also excellent. Channel subscribed.
You are a weird human, I like it! 😂
Never add water to acid! Also, lots of heat released, glass might shatter throwing acid all over. This is not a process for DIY'ers. Just get cheap copper sulfate from Zep Root Kill at Lowes or The Home Depot.
You know that not everyone lives in USA? Not even half. Why do you think there are The Home Depot's all around the world and copper sulfate laying in every corner?
And this is an easy process for a home chemist to do. This is to explore the chemistry. When I done this I had like 10 kg of pure CuSO4.
And acid is not that bad, don't be scared of this liquid. And I had the copper in when I added water, there was 0% chance of it spilling.
Have a good day! :)
Still, please teach proper safety techniques as far as mixing chemicals no matter where you are located. Thanks.
there is nothing wrong in the way I mix chemicals. It would be a different video if I were mixing 100% sulfuric acid and water.
Isnt
.acid pour into water ... not water poured into acid
Yes it is. I stopped watching after that.
yep
Is that bromine being released?
No that is NOx or nitrogen oxide mixture (Dinitrogen tetroxide and Nitrogen dioxide) toxic gas with sharp, biting odor.
Why not save the nitrogen oxides to make nitric acid?
@@danielmahoney8743 exactly. that's what I just told him
Cool reaction method! Kinda scary that you added the base (water) last...I was waiting for the solution to boil over the top or shatter the container from this exothermic event. That plume of fumed nitric acid was real pleasant to observe too!
Heh, I tested the jar with heat before, so I knew it will hold.
How to set gravity and ph ???
You set the gravity and ph ???
Planet sets the gravity, what You mean by ph?
adding water to acid is wrong
How to control the percentage of copper?
What You mean? Add copper in excess, hard to go wrong with it.
Nice video
Acid is combination nitric and sulphoric
Thanks, sorry for "music" :D
Acid is sulfuric with nitrate salt.
@@TheMrbunGee can potassium nitrate be used? or calcium nitrate be better? is there any difference between the two choices? for 100g copper wire how many gram of the nitrate salts to be used?
@@HereNow2226 Yes, You can use pretty much any nitrate salt, as sulfuric acid cannot dissolve copper metal alone. Nitrate salts reacts with H2SO4 to form HNO3 in equilibrium. That can then react with copper and form Copper nitrate, which again reacts with sulfuric acid and produces more HNO3. I have not experimented with this, but I think You might use relatively small amounts of nitrate salt. You should experiment - add small amount (like 10g of nitrate to 100g of copper) and if the reaction stops after a while - just add more.
difference between Ca and Na salts are that CaSO4 is insoluble, One could react it with sulfuric acid and filter some of CaSO4 off the mixture, gaining more concentrated and more pure HNO3.
To calculate amounts of reagents in reaction - use this site: www.webqc.org/balance.php
GLHF.😎
Sülfürik asit bakırla doğrudan reaksiyona girmez, azot dioksit gazı çıktığına göre nitrik asit kullanmışsınız, sonuç olarak oluşan ürün bakır nitrat oluyor.
If You would have actually watched the video - You would know there is nitrate salt added to sulfuric acid, to move copper into solution, but excess of sulfuric acid converts copper nitrate to sulfate, what I have in the end of this process.
Good luck, and pay attention. :)
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you seem to have a fully functional microphone, so why use the janky text-to-speech program?
Because I am not confident in my English speaking ability. :D
i think the Hydraulic Press Channel would tell you your pronunciation of English wouldn't matter, in fact a strong accent might even give your channel more personality. you can always include subtitles too. your written English is easy to understand, i didn't even know it was your second language, but, it is obviously 100% your choice, i just don't like text-to-speech.
It's also a nod to ChemPlayer, if I'm not mistaken.
I agree, Hydraulic Press guys accent is perfect for his channel, it adds a whole new level of entertainment. Maybe TMBG should talk some, he might even sound like a crazy chemist. I'm thinking something like Dr. Evil explaining the reactions etc.
Which acid you use
Sulfuric and nitrate salt mix.
What is the smoke that comes out called ?
That is NOx or nitrogen oxide mixture (Dinitrogen tetroxide and Nitrogen dioxide) toxic gas with sharp, biting odor.
TheMrbunGee oh ok thanksq
I kinda feel as if this person is a psychopath, just based on the music.
Sorry! :D
How can I treat after used liquid
You can add warm or hot solution of sodium hydroxide, to precipitate copper oxide and neutralize acid.
@@TheMrbunGee can you tell me more details about how to treat used solution
Cheaper and safer to just buy some Root Killer because it's made of copper sulfate.
This video is not about how to get CuSO4 - It is about how to make it!
It's too dangerous for non experts to do this. Your process was not done safely. Please find a safer way to make copper sulfate.
Why don't you employ hot concentrated sulfuric acid on copper it produces copper sulfate and can dissolve the metal with lesser fumes of sulfur dioxide and copper sulfide which being a precipitate can be easily filtered off?
Reaction of H2SO4 and copper is incredibly slow, if you don’t have months to create CuSO4 - this is the method.
Heating will increase speed of reaction, but it will still be slow.
With this method - acid may not be concentrated.
Dude, fumes are fun!
you keep your H2SO4 in an Absolute Vodka bottle?
No, I kept its mixture with nitrate salt there.
Creepy background music, robot voice. Scaries movie ever
What is the name of the band playing ?? :-)
I made that song myself.. :D
Wow, really?
It's actually cool😉
Half peroxide and half vinegar with a table spoon of salt per litre and run a current through two copper electrodes for awhile or whatever electrode you'd like on the cathode side. This is stupid and more work and more expensive.
Well, obviously not a method for You. Move along, and have a nice day! :)
What is the background music?
I made it myself.. It has no name.. :D
TheMrbunGee oh......
You sound familiar. Are you related to that guy in the Anonymous videos?
I don't think so..
ChemPlayer?
Can I dye it
You can use it as dye, but copper is a little toxic, so not on food or things, often in contact with living.
right
left
what do you mean by. .nitrate salt?
how much nitrate salt.
and how much sulfuric acid
Any salt of nitric acid.
You can calculate the stoichiometric amounts, Google can help, just search the reaction. If You are not able to do that, then I believe You need to do some learning and research, this is not making pancakes. This is dangerous.
@@TheMrbunGee
If I need help I'll ask you.
I am from Yemen
My country is in severe siege because of the war with Saudi Arabia and the UAE .
so we are in need to make every thing by our self.
@@khaledmahfdee2439 Sad to hear that, Good luck!
What do you have in the liquid mixture?How much and what nitrate and sulfuric acid?
KNO3 and 98% H2SO4 in mass ratio about 1:1! Basicly double the sulfuric acid needed for reaction:
2 KNO3 + H2SO4 ---> 2 HNO3 + K2SO4
or
2 NH4NO3 + H2SO4 ---> (NH4)2SO4 + 2 HNO3
and so on!
Can drain opener be employed in this reaction in lieu of sulfuric acid I had some earlier which displayed all the properties of concentrated sulfuric acid i.e. with charring of paper, cloth and sugar coupled with a rapid reaction with table salt-also the by-products happen to be sodium bisulfate NaHSO4 NOT sodium sulfate.
Blue Vortex
Yes, H2SO4 based drain opener will work!
and in this case reaction will be. KNO3 + H2SO4 --> HNO3 + KHSO4 I made mistake! :)
Just thinking isn't there a chance of copper nitrate a contaminant as its the nitric acid doing the dissolving and it's salt being produced esp. as the 2 look similar?
Blue Vortex There probably is some, but most of it is CuSO4 and if there is any nitrate it is left in the solution discarded! All the crystals are sulfate! You can test them easily by heating. Sulfate turns white and nitrate turns black, emitting NOx gases.
Not terrifying it is the first time seeing orange fumes
Why is your h2so4 in an absolute vodka bottle?
Also, why don't i ever see anyone try to recover the nitric acid by bubbling the no2 in peroxide?
I mixed it there with nitrate salt, it was the largest glass bottle I could find.
for me, at the time, I had no peroxide. But, if I had any, I still would not waste it for nitric recovery, concentration you get is weak and amount is small. If I did NO2 reactions more often, I would use some recovery device, but not if I do this once a year.
Very interesting but the music is unneccessary and annoying.
Agree, sorry!
Why dont you do it like this
Cu + O2 -----> CuO
CuO + H2SO4 ---> CuSO4 + H2O
Or Cu + H2SO4(concentrated) -----> CuSO4 + SO2 + H2O
Can You explain how You are going to do this in real life? :)
@@TheMrbunGee yeah, that's not going to work, right from the first step.
Music sets the wrong mood in this video
Add acid to water NOT water to acid.
Yes, when in industrial scale.
lol, is the dark web sneaking to youtube?
music intensify at every moment as something bad will happen if we do that
;-))
BGM is scary
4:57 so... why didn't you close it then?
And what did it smell like?
8:43 some losSes not loses*
Because it would explode! :D
This exact smell is common in exhaust gases. May be some similarity with chlorine..
Thanks! :D
@@TheMrbunGee you would have made nitric acid by dissolving the outgoing NO2. unfortunately solutions come late when you don't need 'em. lol
Where can I buy this music ?
It speaks to my soul.
Well - I made it with my ultra high level of music production skill, And you have weird soul. :D
TheMrbunGee 👾
@@TheMrbunGee hey i would love to use it for my first video
Is this a creepypasta?
Judging by soundtrack - yes.
Very unsettling music
Wearing gloves might be a good idea. I hope you were at least wearing eye protection...
no, but was wearing at least a condom
gloves are not the best option if you handle nitric acid^^
they can spontaniously ignite on contact while nitric acid on skin takes over a minute to even hurt slightly.
So wearing no gloves is probably the better option here
Is this a robot doing this while using hyperrealistic fake human hands to trick us? My mind is creating sooo many images of this now.
I added hands while editing!
It is not copper sulphate but copper nitrate !
Sulfuric acid is in excess, this is sulfate. ;)
i am using nano3 .... what should be the ratio of the reactants...?
Prasad Mali 2 parts acid, one part nitrate should do.
Prasad Mali where do you get sodium nitrate
It is usually sold as fertilizer, like other nitrates. Some stump removers are potassium nitrate.
Sulfate copper
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Shit it never stops giving fumes 🧪
Basic chemistry only add Acid to water NEVER WATER TO ACID. You see the fiery heat build up in the jar! Also wear gloves and one assumes safety glasses?
Well - you have read your book, but on these scales it is not dangerous to add cool water to cool and not ultra concentrated acid. It is actually hard to make acid splash pouring water in it, even on purpose.
Gloves must be used for handling toxic substances. I don't mind having a few yellow dots on my hands. if you do - wear gloves!