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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Chance-Vought F4U-4 Corsair OE-EAS / BR-37 sn96995, Pratt & Whitney R 2800 CB-3, 2.100 HP (engine info Werner Huber) + French SkyRaider 12716/22-DC
Memorial Air Show 2003, Roudnice nad Labem (21.6.2003)
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DVCam: Canon MV200i
Sound: SENNHEISER ME67
Windshield: Rycote Softie
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I love the sound of that Skyraider idling up to park. It adds a lot to this video.
The usual way a big radial starts goes exactly like this: backfiring, leaking fuel, smoking, shaking. Only radials can start like this. Lovely :D
Nicely put...
The most beautiful sound mankind has ever created!!
I could care less, whose name or names, are on any war bird. I thank them for keeping these birds alive. TY
@aeroguy86
I bet that red bull plane is one of the best maintained corsairs out there. Dont hate on red bull. They put a lot of money back into sports
Thanks for the education. I am in my 50's but I am a firm believer I will continue to learn until the day I die.
As it was taxing off, the rear view shows just how big the props were on these things! No wonder they needed the gull wings!
The gull wings were added to enable the use of short, strong landing gear for the carrier landings which the Corsair was ultimately not used for. The huge prop was to harness the massive output of the R-2800.
Skyraiders used Wright radials and the F4U Pratt and Whitney radials , both good powerplants, reliable and rugged.
SWEET!! There's nothing finer than the gnarly growl of a big phatt Pratt!
***** - that was not a P-47 folding it's wings; it's a Douglas AD Skyraider, which flew off carriers during Korean and Vietnam conflicts. It was a very heavy-lifting ground attack aircraft - rumoured to be able to heave it's own weight in ordnance off a carrier deck!
soaringtractor My original comment about the 'big phatt Pratt' was referring to the F4U Corsair engine sound. and the comment about the AD Skyraider concerned folding wings.
One of the main reasons for replacing the Skyraiders was that the Navy no longer wanted to carry that much gasoline onboard. They were still capable of doing certain jobs better than any other aircraft when they were finally replaced.
Reminds me of the gas older gas tractors on the farm,temperamental, had to choke just right,but after you get them running and warmed up, good to go.
Nice to see an A-1 out there too...
But I loves me a nice Corsair!
All those cylinders kicking... very beautiful sound.
the skyrider sound is much much solid
Well worth the wait. He is a lucky man owning that piece of history. Well done!
My favorite aircraft of all time. My God that thing is beautiful!
Der geilste Sound der Welt
I worked ever so briefly on the Spad or "Sandy" as they were called back in '68. It was a flying dump truck; look at all those wing stations for me to mount ordnance on!! Love the Corsair also; never had the chance to work on them, sadly. Both are beautiful machines from a by-gone era.
"Spad" was the nickname, SANDY was the game.
That engine is the most beautiful engine sound i have ever heard.
The R-2800 is the best radial with the best sound ever made.
I agree! It take's the glory and the pride of the aircraft out of it.
Starting these types of radials is very systematic and tricky. First crank is w/o mags to clear the oil from the lower cylinders (you'll see hand cranking on some of the bombers for this purpose). Next, there is no primer system, so the engines must be almost flooded to get the mixture going. Then it is a process of adjusting (quickly) the mixtures to get it firing properly. Occasionally, you'll actually see a puddle of fuel under the engine from the over-rich mixtures.
Big bro' steals the show! Can't beat the sound of the R-3350 as the big Skyraider struggles to taxi on the turf (something which it was not redesigned to do).
thank you for keeping these war birds flying, I don't care were the company is based that funds these aircraft. this plane and a thousands like it helped my country and many others remain free to this day.
@aeroguy86 RedBull has the money and respect for the aircraft to keep it running in top shape. I salute them for that at least. We need more like them to keep these beauties from being claimed by time and neglect.
I have an Original Flight Manual to the F4U-4 Corsair dated 1945. That's the source for the procedure I gave you. We also have a TBF Avenger based here at our airport. I know the owner very well (I'm a flight instructor and give him his biennial flight reviews). Anyway- He is the one that told me the trick for stirring the oil. It has the same engine as the Corsair. It's not a published procedure but a common one shared in the war bird community.
That is so true. I've got a tad over 1,000 hrs behind 1340's in B model Cats and a 301, and I LOVE em! But, knowledgeable radial pilots AND mechanics who can work on them are a dying breed. Fortunately I learned from an OLD ag pilot who had thousands of hours on radials.
A buddy of mine was a Hellcat pilot in WWII. He says the Corsair was a beast - too much power, blackout dives, hard to land on a carrier. He switched back to the Hellcat after trying the Corsair. Hellcat was a pussycat compared to the Ensign Eliminator.
They sound so much better than a Harley
Interesting detail of Starting Engine !
arguably the greatest fighter of WWII also my favorite good video
Mixture is closed for starting F4Us so there's no "air/fuel mixture" to be "correct" when starting engine. It's all in Priming. Sending fuel to the carburetor, either by manual primer pump or electric fuel boost pump. Over prime & then you have to crank & crank to clear the system. Also on Big Radial engines oil pools in the lower cylinders. A common practice is to have fuel off & crank the engine (using starter only - slowly) to stir the oil. Then the introduce fuel & crank again for starting.
@comcfi some of the finest sounds ever created by man!!!
Once upon a time I owned a '41 Stearman...kept it about 4 years and somebody came along who wanted it more than me. I wore an old fashioned cloth "helmet" with the ear holes for a set of David Clark headphone. It had no radio, just an intercom so I could communicate with a passenger. I think I bought the intercom from Sportys...The R-670 sounded good..but not as good as the corsair.
Good video, well shot.
Red Bull owns the airplane and pretty much puts that on everything they own. Like or not they have done a lot of very fine restorations on airplanes and fly stuff you wouldn't normally get to see flying anymore. A small price to pay for it to show up at your venue flying so you don't have to visit it in a museum.
Billt460, he is starting it on prime and the engines catches and doesn't. Its a fine dance with air to fuel mixture. Once it finally get the right amount, it starts. Notice he did a small run up to see if it wanted to play before he taxi'd out. R-2800, a sweet sound...
Sounds like a herd of Harley Davidson's running.....Beautiful noise.
well since your asking i have flown a da-20 flown in a b-l7, b-24 and if i am not mistaken they have a radial engines i grew up around this stuff thanks for asking
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I love the Merlin but this engine was special...You could it to pieces and it would still run
did anyone else notice that the sun started to shine when it was being started
If I'm not wrong, the fastest single prop plane ever made...over 500 mph.
Put whatever paint on, I don't care. Anything to keep these war birds alive...
Sounds like its gonna blow up 😂
Well the red bull logo may be ugly but they are the ones sponsoring this great machine so it can keep flying... small price to pay.
P-47 Thunderbolt? That first plane is Douglas A-1 Skyraider
Excellent upload...Thanks.....-can't help but think about warm-up time when Zero's were
pouring lead on them...-and what they must have sounded like w\ 130 octane war gas...
but I did the 'check-out' on the Corsair.....it was kinda 'art' to combat fly them. tricky.
@airsoftisawsome at times, yes. Radials, especially big ones like the R2800 can be a bit cantankerous at times. Usually they're not that hard, but at times, they need a little "finess"!! That's just all part of what makes a round motor grand!!
i was with the the pilots as they where starting the aircraft i was there as they did pre flight check and start up and no i am not an expert i was giving you my opinion you called me out and i stood my ground as to what i thought and i am currently in the prossess of getting my a&p setting all that aside you flew cl-215? thats cool what was that like
heh, I was waiting for engine start more then 2 hours.
it sounds like it was recorded in good quality but youtube makes it sound all static-y
it's more like they restored it, they get to paint whatever they want. I'm glad redbull is doing this while coca cola is doing who the fuck knows what
You mean the R-2800. Only the F2-G corsair used the 4360 and only 10 were built. Only one of these survives to my knowledge. Nonetheless very cool.
@kblackav8or Lucky guess, I have never even been out of California. I know its a rarity to see them flying, no matter what type of vintage warbird it is. I would love to see them operational regardless, but would still prefer to see them painted with their traditional colors, it adds that extra emotion to it, I personally believe. I can live with it too, just takes away that extra feeling of being there during the actual war days. Still a nice plane, just not too fond of the paint scheme.
okay seeing the red bull on a f4u corsair really is offending me right now how could any one do that? respect the beauty people
@aeroguy86 how many hours did you say you have flying aircraft with R2800 engines? How many starts? This engine never "backfired" once... what you hear is individual cylinders firing while the engine is trying to start... if it had backfired, everyone within a mile would have heard it! If anything, the pilot hadnt primed it quite enough, but without knowing if this was a cold start or hot start, it cant be said for sure.
This plane crashed in 2008 after an air show in Texas by Meja, Texas. RIP warbird.
sounds like popcorn :D
@aeroguy86 Nah, she wasn't flooded... or if she was, it wasnt very bad... no flames from the stack on startup as there usually is on a flooded radial start.
4:55 for the start, and yes I agree, it is very disrespectful to put that austrian redbull logo on such a classic AMERICAN fighter.
perhaps he gets the pressure up & or prime oil system b
efore idle? or is it a preheat & choke thing?
@groovy67 Like I said - the plane might be sitting in a museum now and not flying. It's only paint. Look at all the stuff that is flying now because the folks at Red Bull restore and FLY them all over the world so people can see them. It's ONLY PAINT. Honestly I think they would overlook the fact that there is some art on it for the fact it is out being flown and enjoyed by people. Been to the Reno Air Races? Look at what they do to these planes. Cut wings, custom paint.
@groovy67
dude...it´s their plane, they can paint it pink if they want to (would look shit but anyways haha)
its only a small logo, you act like it would go over the whole plane!
but you could actually get yourself one of these and paint it the way you want to ;)
@aeroguy86 Oh okay... so you havent actually FLOWN, OPERATED, or STARTED anything with a radial engine, let alone an R2800. You have RIDDEN in a B-17 and a B-24, which are both powered by Wright 1820 single row radials that are a HECK of alot different than the twin row R2800 in the way they are operated. I've got 7,000 hrs tt, with a tad over a thousand hours of it being round engines... 150 on the twin R2800 powered CL-215... yet you're the expert radial engine guy... okay.
well, if it weren't for redbull's sponsorship, that thing would probably be in a scrap heap somewere
@groovy67 and like people said, i´d rather see it flying with that logo than in a museum....think about it bro
@groovy67 no prob mate ;)
i know what you mean, but the good thing about it is, that those guys (the flying bulls) work day and night to keep old warbirds flying...you should really check them out, those guys are doing a fantastic job!
btw chip foose ruins those cars completely! haha
cheers
those things dont like being started cold do they?
Can you record dialogue test with this mic? I want to hear how it sounds.
@kblackav8or I would rather see an original plane sit in a museum with her ORIGINAL colors and markings, NOT some corporate sponsorship, even if that corporation owns the aircraft. Yes, looks nice, but would absolutely look better with her original colors, Flying or Not.
I have never seen a P-47 with folding wings? Were they ever flown off naval carriers at some point?
It looks like a Skyraider.
its a skyraider, but they do look like p47s with their bulky looking fuselage
when they actual used thees planes where they that hard to start?
is this typical of the start up on an F4?
Sky raider and corsair use same engine right?
エンジン音懐かしい
Found a crash site of one of these once
@AndrewJuggalo951 Guess you have never been to the Reno Air Races. IF it is flying it can always be repainted and finding them flying is rare. I would rather see it operational then not regardless of what color or scheme of paint is on there. There is a lot more respect and appreciation when you can see, hear and experience the aircraft then in some dark museum where it can't be touched. You may no like it and I am not all that big on it either but I can live with Red Bull doing what they do
Corsairs look like bullies. Must feel like a badass when fighting in one.
@aeroguy86 red bull recovered and restored this aircraft.. its only right that they put red bull on the nose
A French A1 Skyraider? That explains why the wings went up like it was about to surrender.
trust me, you want to warm up the engine as best you can.......do some research and find out the cost of overhauling a r2800
cold start im guessing?
isn't that the Goodyear f4u
typical radial haha. love radials
@F15Eaglejet1 13' 4"
flooding the engine nice
more than three minutes to start up the engine? it's too strange.
@kirkconway your damn right it will the f4u is the best it was faster could carry more armament had a better k/d ratio and could take more battle damage with its big radial engine not to mentin the huge advantage of bein able to land on a carrier
At first I thought it was an Arkansas Razorback instead of a red bull. :(
Educate me then. I assumed that is what it was. It just seemed like the priming motor was on for a long time
10 minutes to start the damn thing ?
whats taking so long?
CastleDawn, I am sure if you don't like Red Bull on the side of the airplane, you could buy it off them, then paint any logo on the side that you wish for, unless of course you are one of those people that just like to moan about something that you have no knowledge of......
The engine noise is great....however....I prefer the sound of a Merlin.....
Nothing like having corporate feces smeared all over such a fine aircraft.
THIS CORSAIR WAS IN THE HONDURAS AND SALVADOR WAR IN THE 1969 AND MY DAD FIX THS MACHINE MAN HA HA AH
This pilot had a hard time getting the air/fuel mixture correct
uh yes i do believe thats what it is also note the backfireing he is priming to much :)
it pains me to see the redbull logos all over this plane such a beautiful aircraft ruined by advertising now if red bull had the balls they would sponsor the aircraft and keep there bullshit ads off the airplane
Hellcat would be the best fighter of WWII, if not all time, with it's kill ratio.
i had to wait too long to see it started. next time, make sure you cut out all the pre-start, so i don't have to wait so long. thanks.