Not stepdaughter, goddaughter. Which honestly makes it worse that she treats him this poorly. She could at least show him some respect for how highly her parents thought of him
Lara Croft has been "female Indiana Jones" for 27 years. And it's one of the best selling game franchises of all time. Whatever they're trying to do with this will not be as popular as that.
For those who don't know. The Greek inventor Archimedes was from Syracuse (Siracusa) on the Island of Sicily. Rome decided they needed to take the city during the Second Punic War. Archimedes, about 75 at the time, is largely credited with the year-long defense of the city by means of his inventions. These included a crane that lifted Roman ships from the water and some type of light magnification using lenses that set Roman ships on fire from a distance. And as cool as all that sounds to maybe see, I still ain't watching this shit.
I get the feeling that Phoebe Waller-Bridge wrote herself into the movie, giving herself all the best lines. If you watch your favourite movie, and then imagine what it would be like to put yourself INTO the film itself, this is EXACTLY how Phoebe Walker-Bridge approached her role in this film.
Exactly she treated this film as an ego boost and a vanity project, like how Vin Diesel does with the Fast and Furious movies. Without wokeness and diversity hiring she wouldn’t even have quarter the relevancy she has now.
@@mitchjames9350but with Vin Diesel isn't that his franchise, like he has skin in the game so to speak. Plus that franchise has been going on long enough for him to know what the audience wants... I'd agree that he's put himself into the story however, to me, it only has kept the money train rolling for the FnF, unlike this dumpster fire
Never heard of her. I can't get this obsession Hollywood has with casting no name actors as lead in expensive movies first Jonathan majors then Ezra miller now this feebe waller person
The thing is before the Raiders production began, Spielberg and Lucas signed with Paramount to make 5 Indiana Jones movies. Therefore this was basically part of their contract eventhough both handed to someone else
Wow! Not only did Kathleen Kennedy destroy Indiana Jones reputation and our perception of him she actually killed off her son to make sure there was no Heir Apparent. Man, this is one woman who really dislikes men
She is also gonna be that person who when she is 40 is bemoaning the fact she doesn't have a husband saying it is "because they don't know what they are missing" or some crap like that
@@ericharrison4067 Scar Jo is in her mid 40s and they shame men in general for her being single. Halle Berry is like 52 now. KK has to be like 65 minimum.
You know who I would have picked for an older female co star? Sigourney Weaver. She's in her 70's, and she still did a ton of physical training and labor for Avatar 2. Here's a quote from her about it: "I don’t voice this, because I know that I’ll get teased mercilessly about what a wuss I am, but I think that everyone enjoys working with Jim because he does demand so much. On Avatar: The Way of Water, I was older than a lot of the other people, and we had to do a lot of parkour. We had to do burpees. We had to do freediving. Don’t you love these jobs where you have to learn some really outlandish thing that you keep with you for the rest of your life? Freediving, especially, I’m grateful that we spent a year doing that." She commands respect, and she puts in the work behind the scenes to deliver the best performance possible. If this movie came with a better script, I think she'd be a worthy co star.
She recently gave a very backhanded "Apology" that was essentially blaming Mangold for the film and throwing him ALL the way under the bus. Another franchise ruined. What the heck does she have on the top people at Disney? SOOOOO much respect for Speilberg's absolute public humiliation of her live onstage. She truly deserves no less.
@@crank1985 I'd make a comment about a certain person who lived just up the road, but i'm so exhausted by that person that i just can't bother. I'm not sure I can see either of the Bobs in that situation; Eisner, on the other hand.....
Kathleen has now killed the marriages and children of two of Harrison Ford's characters. It says a lot about her as a person that she has chosen to retroactively rob audiences of two different happy endings for no good reason or positive payoff. She is truly an evil person and her misandry is clear for all to see.
The "old Indy" bookends from Young Indiana Jones will always be the true finale for Indy. He wasn't well received when it aired, but I bet he's gonna start looking a lot better to fans, and I bet Lucas now wishes he hadn't removed old Indy from the VHS/DVDs. Here's the first episode: th-cam.com/video/Z9YEQt0dvTs/w-d-xo.html
Chris Gore it's such a great speaker, he describes his thoughts without ever getting riled up or emotional about it. Clean and professional, a rare sight as of late.
I still find it strange, that Sean Connery played Harrison Ford's father at 59, yet Harrison Ford himself is about to turn 81. I don't know which I dislike more: all these geriatric men and women pretending to be sexy, young, athletic superheroes - or all these younger, androgynous, hormonally-crushed, beanpole children pretending to be muscular heroes. It's an uncanny valley situation far beyond any possible suspension of disbelief.
The problem is not about the age, its about honoring the character. Thats why season 3 of Picard worked. They all are in their 70s, Stewart is in his 80s, but Matalas wrote a script that gave them propper story and believable dialouge. You cant pull the "modern audience" switch without honoring the old. + that message of S3 was phenomenal, the young are infected by a dangerous hive (twitter) and the old (pre social media bubble) generation has t fix humanity. BOOM SUNK!
@@thomasnieswandt8805 unfortunately the first two seasons of Picard were dog shit. If they did every season of picard like season 3. I’d watch the fuck out of it. They realized what they did wrong and fixed it when it was already too late. Robbing us of two seasons that could have been good.
@@bigchod-pv7eb I think Connery could have added more to the last Indiana Jones sequel.but I still enjoyed his presence because it’s Sean frickin Connery.
@Anoneemus Noename it really was awful. R.O. is no less paint by numbers as the rest of the dreck. I remember I didn't even watch the whole thing I kept noticing little things that were bad and couldn't even finish. I did however manage to watch more of it than the second sequel movie. I turned the screen off after the "can you hear me now" joke at the beginning of that one. That was a sad fkn day for me.
Twenty-five years ago, Harrison Ford did a throwaway rom-com (Six Days Seven Nights) with Anne Heche -- for which he made 20 mil, 12 points on first-week receipts, and repeatedly fought for more airplane scenes, so he could spend more time chasing his personal hobbyist passion (flying the DeHaviland on the studio's clock + dollars). I don't think he's been very concerned about "artistic integrity" since then.
Not only are fictional characters becoming ugly but even RL actors are subpar on the aesthetics department. It's just pathetic and frustrating to see objectively beautiful things/people become hideous and replaced
Wow, they killed Mutt in Vietnam? That's beyond lame. Edit: For those who believe that I think soldiers dying in war is lame, I admit I was unclear in my statement. I meant I am pointing out the fact that they brushed off the death of Indiana's ONLY SON and we don't get a real moment to figure out how he even felt about him or how his death would shape the character beyond "I'm now grumpier". If you are going to kill off Mutt, at least have the death of his only son mean something? Especially if this is his (presumed) FINAL outing. And I have a hunch that it was done so the only person he could even realistically "pass the torch" off to is Phoebe.
I always liked Muttt despite everybody hatred for him (Shia didn't do a great job but it was passable) but honestly thought they wouldn't mention him just because he's the biggest wrench in the idea if the story. It's somewhat worse that they killed him in Vietnam.
@Lucas O'heyze its more the lack of care for any kind of passing the torch. Just a hand wave "Oh yeh he died, anyway moving on". Its just sad the character couldn't be redeemed in any way other than killing him offscreen
They killed him off - just so they could parachute 'female Mutt 2.0' in. They did the same with John Connor in Terminator Dark fate. Dani was just John Connor 2.0 - but in that case it was even worse, because it undermined the entire bedrock of the franchise.
Man, the reveal of Mutt's fate was a punch in the gut. Sure, he wasn't a beloved supporting character as Jones Sr or Sallah, but I guess they never learn from Alien 3 or Terminator Dark Fate. I always thought they can still revamp the character in such a way, make him more mature & show signs of growth. But nah, we don't deserve happiness in this world.
Damn could have had Mutt find the mystic crossbow in vietnam (said to be able to fire infinite arrow) or the famous " "sword in the lake" (not Arthurian myth)
And what was shown, if I remember correctly, was the reshoot "Make it sell or GTFO" cut if the film, not the original "Kennedy" cut that got leaked and forced them to do reshoots. I wonder if they'll talk about "what we originally had planned" on the dvd extras?
I have no problem with them making movies for women, just don't expect me to watch them. If they ever start making movies for my demographic again, I'll watch them. But that's not likely to happen. I'm an old Gen X'r.
It's okay to have a character divorced and miserable if there's actually a reason. Like John McClane in Die Hard 1, his estrangement from his wife is used to build this incredible character arc where he is humanised as a flawed man, then saves her and shows her that he loves her. Unfortunately modern "writers" just add these things to ruin old characters and make them miserable husks, not to build character development.
I just hope that everyone saying they're not going to see it will actually stand by that conviction. There is no other way to send these studios the message than by not giving them our money.
I appreciate the spoiler of the vietnam death and divorce papers. It didn't just kill any remaining desire I had to see the last entry, it shredded the body, cremated the mush, buried the ashes and salted the earth the ashes were buried in just to be sure. I mean, I was never going to see it anyway, but that tidbit sealed the deal.
Wow, they really didn't like Indy having an happy ending eh? Crusade and even skull ended on a happy note. That getting glassed from orbit right after the "young Indy" part just feels... dirty. Edit: Ah, they do the Back to the future "Have a better today" at the end. But only if he stays home from now on. I used to think the dumb Star Wars "Let the past die, kill it if you have to" line was just written to show just how naive and indoctrinated Kylo was. I never would have guessed it was the bloody modus operandi, slogan and life goal of grand Moff Kennedy.
This reminds me of that pre-screening sneak preview of *The Rise of Soywalker* where the Millennium Falcon was blown up. When you go far beyond not caring anymore (at least when it comes to the new stuff; I’ll *NEVER* give up on the stuff that is genuinely good), I now just want to see just how _horribly_ they can screw things up. It’s a shame you don’t have any (heh heh) rebels among the Left to just hit the Easy Button and release *EVERYTHING:* all the scrapbook edits, all cuts… *EVERYTHING!*
I don’t need to see the movie. That alone was worth the entire mess of a production. I suspect they’ll be comedy videos forthcoming based on that moment.
@@josephbrown9685 it was a Nerdrotic nooner or bbc episode, in the first 6 minutes they l Gary played an audio of Spielberg talking about how kk would offer utterly stupid creative contributions, implying he hated it because he described it as her interrupting the creative process to do it
That was a great moment. Spielberg clearly doesn't like Kennedy; there's a reason why he stepped down as director for the movie ("creative differences").
Spielberg talked about KK always wanting to insert her ideas into stories rather than just getting the coffee. Now that she's had Lucasfilm to make those ideas a reality, it's clear that she should have become the president of Starbucks instead of Lucasfilm.
Preferably a barista, anymore power and she'd ruin Starbucks like she did with Lucasfilm. Though that wouldn't be entirely awful, maybe people would start drinking good coffee if that happened.
I pretty much figured that they’d kill off Indy’s son. Because we all know that a story would take place in the 60s or 70s, and Nam was going on. So unless Mutt was able to finish school with high marks Nam was going to get him via the draft. But we all know that shouldn’t have happened and this is the end of the franchise. Because honestly we will need a new team and owners of Lucasfilm to rewrite or completely rebuild their franchises. SW kicking off with hopefully Lucas’s planned sequel trilogy that would erase the Disney trilogy, and Indiana Jones being completely rebooted with new actors (few I see can pick up the role, but Chris Pratt I see could do it and be a good successor to the role, but he will have to be very brutal with holding his beliefs and morals against the movie makers as to protect the future of the franchise from sjw nonsense.) Let us all hope that eventually other movies are made with similar themes and ideas to that of the original Indy movies, ones that fill the shoes of what came before and do their best to bring back the classic adventure genre that is sorely missed.
It would be fun if he was actually starring in the movie, and it was about him being on a mission upriver in Cambodia a la "Apocalypse Now", getting separated from his unit and ending up discovering some tribe with a magical artifact in some Khmer temple deep in the jungle.
They actually screwed up the timing a bit as far as Mutt being drafted to fight in Vietnam. Crystal Skull was set in the mid-late ‘50s, and Mutt was supposed to be 17-18 in that movie. The new movie is set in 1969, so he’d be at least in his late 20s and too old to be drafted (the cutoff was 26 in Vietnam). He would have to have volunteered.
I find it annoying, I mean I gotta sit there the entire video and wait to see if he gets belly rubs and face squozing. Every dog needs a good face squozing.
I was on a flight a week ago and decided to watch The Last Crusade, one of my favorite films of all time. Throughout the film, Indiana Jones is equal parts the clever hero and the bumbling fool, there are so many moments where Sean Connery gets to make him look like an idiot. But then, there are plenty of moments where that is reversed and Sean Connery gets to be the butt of the joke, and at the end of the day it's their combined wit and skill that gets Indy through the traps. Nobody is consistently better or worse than the other, everyone has their moment of triumph and failure, and throughout the film it is consistently always fun. But then you have a movie like this, where the failures are one-sided and the tone is bitter and spiteful.
I saw that the other day too! Brilliantly balanced odd couple film, and it all builds to that OTT Spielberg father/son moment at the end. I’ve seen that film god knows how many times and each time Connery softly says Indiana, I still smile like an idiot. No one dominates the other, it’s all about them reconnecting. It has its flaws but it’s still how the series should have ended.
Listening to Chris Gore describing Indy 5, is akin to listening to someone reading you outloud the details of the police report regarding your family member's murder.
@@mosesdouglas4325 If it ended at last crusade we'd never of seen him marry Marion which was great but yeah rest of crystal skull is garbage. How infuriating that this one has ruined the only good about crystal skull by having them divorce. Absolutely dreadful decision along with killing off his son.
@@patrickbatman141 I forgot about Marion even being in Crystal Skull. Been a while since I subjected myself to that kind of torture. But I agree with you that it's trash and Dial looks worse if that's even possible. Btw great TH-cam name. The DENNIS system still one of my favorite episodes besides the Lethal Weapon episodes. 😆
There was a line in No Time to Die, written by Phoebe Waller Bridge, where the new diverse 007 told original 007 to "stay in their lane". If only Bridge took her own advice. She was fine writing and acting in quirky British feminist comedy. She should never have been attached to these big IP's primarily aimed at a male audience.
The character who tells bond to stay his lane gets outdone by bond to such a degree that she relinquishes the 007 moniker back to him and its retired when he 'dies'
@@DanBharry No doubt a result of the rewrites. She was originally intended to replace him, I'm guessing...just like Phoebe was here. What a fucking hack this woman is. lmfao
Smokey gave the best critical analysis of this movie. That's all any potential viewer of the movie needs to know. Actually, I think even he was too excited about it. I bet a common reaction from people leaving a movie theater after watching this cinematic lobotomy goes something like "I just wasted more than 2 hours of my life that I can never get back. Maybe someone should use that Dial of Destiny to go back in time and prevent this movie from ever being made!"
I think Indi losing his son should only have been included if the story arc would have been him trying to find the dial and going to great lengths to get it to save his son.
@@jiggycalzone8585 more likely she would've said something like "He turned me down for a date, I'm glad he's dead, hope it hurt like hell when he died"
This is a great idea. Someone said this on another video, but when the story suggestions of people in TH-cam comments are better than the actual story of the film, you know the movie has problems.
I’ve got and idea how to save this franchise. Have short round running around south east Asia wearing the iconic hat. He can look for whatever mcguffin the plot needs. He should run into mutt held as a prisoner of war. Short round helps mutt escape and they go on adventures while running from NVA. Short round gets pushed down looses the hat, mutt picks it up the music comes in hard and he kicks everyone’s ass.
I always find it incredible how people in TH-cam's comment sections come up with better ideas than writers who are paid millions to supposedly do their jobs.
Indiana Jones is the purest form of oldschool male empowerment fantasy. Unlucky + badass + classy when he needs to be. The odds that modern Hollywood could handle that tastefully are on a par with their odds of creating a second MCU.
It’s interesting because he was always kind of a jabroni. Nothing went right, he fucked up did stupid shit, got hurt, was a pussy about things, and he needed help from a whole cast of side characters. But it was done in a way that didn’t completely humiliate him. And he could be the shit out of nazis.
@@SupremeCommanderBaiser They're two different flavors of the same beverage. One is rugged, the other is suave. One leans more towards badassery, the other towards classing it up.
Big, big mistake that Disney/Lucasfilm didn't hire Dylan Mulvaney to play Indy. To play Helena too. Two for the price of one. Disney could have saved a lot of money by doing that. Boo, Lucasfilm.
I don't understand how anyone can look past this point. It's one thing to have religious artifacts that have mystical powers, but someone inventing a time machine in 214 B.C.? It's beyond preposterous.
Yeah they completely forgot or ignored how the magical stuff worked in their previous Indy movies. What really made Indy movies stand out from generic real-world-but-with-magic is that it was all pretty subtle and never clearly explained. You never had a wizard say "I cast fireball", you had ancient biblical stuff like the Arc or the Holy Grail, ancient occult magic stones in Temple of Doom, hell even the aliens in Crystal Skull were hardly explained at all. With all these "magical/fantastic" objects the viewer didn't really care about how or why they were made since it could as well have been God or a (super)natural phenomenon. But directly saying "this historical figure crafted this device in the middle of a battle to save his and his armies' asses"... that's just... *no* it's wrong. It directly breaks the charm of the previous movies and goes against everything that this franchise established. (So it falls in line with the rest of the movie doing its best to desecrate Indy's rotting corpse.)
@@lordhelmchen3154 Couldn't agree more. Even George Lucas said the franchise needed to be grounded in somewhat of a reality, and specifically listed time travel as something you could not do.
This has kind of pissed me off. Marion and Indy are supposed to be together. As bad as Crystal Skull was, that was the one thing they got right. You compare Marion against the relationships with him and Willie Scott or Elsa Schnider, you know those relationships were not meant to be. Indy and Marion are perfect for each other - they had the perfect character dynamic, and you can tell Ford and Allen had a blast playing those characters. His crazy matches her crazy...and now they are divorced!?! Bollocks! And as for Mutt? Okay, I wasn't a fan of the character, but to kill him off in Vietnam - talk about lazy! Gee, Lucasfilm, how far the mighty have fallen!
It's not about being lazy per-se, it's about a bitter, spiteful woman taking everything away from a beloved masculine hero. Take away his job, take away the love of his life, take away his only male heir, leave him with no hope or reason to live, it's Kennedy's misandry manifest.
@@alopexau Don't forget she also took away Han Solo's love of his life, had his son hate on him, and then kill him off in the shittest way possible. And let's not get started on what she did with Luke Skywalker.
It's sheer hatefulness for them to do things this way. Star Wars & Indy - all of our heroes got happy endings that resolved all the arcs of their stories. Then these newcomers just tear it all up out of some kind of bizarre spitefulness. It's parasitical - using the goodwill toward the stories to extract what they want and then discarding what's left.
So blatant these people despise men from how much they love tearing down, belittling and emasculating all of our beloved classic male hero's from franchises decades old and yet it's celebrated, encouraged and called "women empowerment". Not every guy on this planet is a Harvey Weinstein that's sexually assaulted hundreds of women ffs. There's just as many bad women out there as there are bad men. Why are we all treated as if we are all terrible and why are we being forced fed this constant petty hatred through films and TV shows. Society today is an utter joke.
That's awful to hear what they did to Indy's story. I mean I don't think anyone likes Mutt or anything to do with the fourth film really, but still, why heap such a tragedy onto Indy? Dead son and divorced? Wtf? It's horrible. Indiana Jones movies were never about that kind of stuff. Last Crusade literally ends with Indy riding off into the sunset, why do they have to ruin his life? Can't believe I'm saying this but Crystal Skull is instantly better than this just for giving Indy a happy ending.
They did the same thing with Luke! Seems the goal of the message is to destroy any role models and create female characters who take on the worse human traits and they pass it off as “look women are equal too!”
Imagine if I went back in time and told you Lucasfilm is bought by Disney, they put a woman in charge who wears “the force is female” shirts. The new Star Wars films are about how Luke and Anakin were failures who accomplished nothing, and the real chosen one and hero is the new female lead, she is effortlessly great at everything and she defeats the empire and emperor who came back. Then the new Indiana Jones film is about a old Indy whose son and teased successor is unceremoniously killed off screen, and Indy is replaced by a new female lead who is effortlessly better than him at everything and replaces him. You’d think I was going on some weird rant, making up a straw man to ridiculous and cartoonishly parody like to ever happen. Like someone making fun of feminist influence in films would make it up as a joke. But it actually happened.
Killing Mutt is the biggest insult they could have given to Lucas and the fans and it's entirely on purpose. They're basically saying "we've destroyed your dreams and your future". They clearly hate Lucas by killing Indy's son.
This is all getting like The Empire Strikes Back in early Summer 1980 when mischievous schoolboys were giving away the startling reveal that Vader was Luke's father to others that hadn't seen it!
Probably the last thing I want to see about a childhood hero is to see him in squaller with divorce papers and a reminder that his son died in Vietnam.
I wonder why Kathleen Kennedy hates George Lucas so much. She has gone out of her way to destroy his entire legacy. Star wars, Indiana Jones, even willow wasn't safe. The only thing left is American graffiti.
And it wouldn't surprise me if she remade that, just to ruin it. Nothing surprises me with kk. It's such a shame though. And frankly sad, how she ruined so many amazing IP,s 😒
@@irvhh143 I can understand that happening I'm 40 and only learned about American Graffiti because I've been obsessed with classic cars since I learned to drive. Twenty-somethings who aren't car people or film buffs would probably just think it's just some dumb old movie dad or grandpa likes.
I tend to forget about Doomcock due to the fact that he hardly ever gets brought up. Drinker and Gary used to associate with him a lot but then that just stopped one day. I'm guessing that Drinker doesn't have a lot of positive feelings towards Doomcock due to his one reference to him. I guess it has to do with him always claiming that KK will finally be fired. I'm not sure.
I get that feeling too since there are some instances where it feels like Drinker is mocking Doomcock’s reporting and sources, like with the rumoured Lucas film sale for example. Which isn’t exactly fair to blame him for since the man is only reporting what his sources tell him and the man even prefaces that these are just rumours he’s sharing
Who didnt see this coming? PWB is the star of the movie and the original star is pushed aside, mocked and poked fun at, all to elevate the strong female hero!
You know what I don’t want from a legacy sequel? One-I don’t want you to ruin the legendary character that was perfectly fine walking into the sunset in Last Crusade. 2-We do NOT want or need to replace every male lead with a female lead. That’s bad casting and it has shown not to work. Hollywood quit trying to hijack or childhood heroes and twist them. Come up with a new freaking idea. It’s official I-a lifelong Indiana Jones fan-won’t be going to see it.
They really used one of the most traumatic experiences american families actually went through, losing a son in the vietnam war, to spiritually destroy a male character just because they don't like him. These people would probably send real people to their deaths in wartime and make sure they're all men out of malice. How fucked. Probably would've killed Indy at the start too if they could've gotten away with it.
@@dustinhogle3844The idea of Hollywood being scared of a youtuber called *Doomcock* is hilarious. He actually intimidates them enough to reshoot scenes and make him a villain in She-Hulk. He's got some pull.
I want to know whose bright idea it was to have time travel in this film. I mean really, time travel? In an Indiana Jones movie? Just... _Why?!_ I'm old enough to remember Indiana Jones 4 getting shit on for featuring aliens, so I really want to meet the person who thought including time travel was going to be such a great idea.
If enough people don't go to these movies eventually they'll stop making them. There's only so much wokeness that investors will tolerate if it gets in the way of profits.
@@Ben-ee2xy Lol, Kingdom was shit and you know it. Just like the Star Wars Prequels, sometime between 1989 and 1999 George Lucas lost his mind and whatever writing talent he had with it.
That ending sounds like the King Arthur and the Knights of Justice cartoon. Merlin opens a portal and pulls a high school football team from the future to stand in for Arthur and his Knights.
“The first thing we see is Indiana Jones in his apartment with divorce papers, and his son has been killed.” I don’t even like Crystal Skull, but this genuinely made me feel depressed.
This was one of the things I really hated about Crystal Skull; Indy's dad being mentioned as being dead, when Sean Connery was still alive. This is the same thing again.
and they want you to be because they hate everything you love simply out of petty spite. but if you complain about it you're just a bigoted fanboy though, remember?
@@kaijusoshingeki7214 hey at least that worked in terms of the story because his dad died of old age, not being killed off young. The former is depressing, but there is a level of respect. The latter is just downright depressing.
Blade Runner is probably the only Harrison Ford legacy character that was treated with respect and care. Let's hope they don't butcher it if they make more of it
@@idawg7332 Not that Kennedy would have hired him or given him free reign. Wonder what Denis Villeneuve could have done with Indiana 5 if he had been offered the job? Think he is doing a great job with Dune, looking forward to part 2
@@doberski6855 Denis is my favorite director working today but I think he works best for really dark deconstructive stuff like blade runner and dune. Not sure how he'd do with something faster paced and more fun adventure themed like indiana jones.
Thanks you've just saved me however much it costs to go and see a film these days. I gave up on modern films years ago anyway. I wonder what clip South Park will parody this time for Indy 5. Pulp Fiction basement scene perhaps?
My favorite scene was when Indiana put on the Fedora, and reflected "this hat is perfect" to which fleabag responded "it will be once it fits a woman" and then she took the hat, put it on and said "now it's perfect". Indy tried to protest so she aimed a machine gun at him, pointed to her eyes and said "look at me, look at me, I'm Indiana now" and then with the hat and the machine gun went to kill all the nazis, embarrassing the all male inglorious basterds as well...
Kathleen Kennedy's mandate: 1) Fleabag needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine. 2) Whenever Fleabag's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking where is she.
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I’m genuinely saddened by this. I’m at a loss for words to describe how disappointed I feel regarding this direction. “Look at how they massacred my boy.”
He really was fantastic with it, you could tell he put a ton of effort into studying Ford's mannerisms. The difference between a body double vs a real actor, I guess.
Indeed, Phoenix was a proper actor. He was suggested by Ford himself for young Indy after playing Ford's son in "The Mosquito Coast". That kind of casting care and attention to detail is often a foreign thing in these franchises now.
Gah...I have a lot to say here. I'm used to classic franchises getting burned to the ground in the name of PROGRESS, but Indy was one that definitely meant something to me. Between Indy and Lara Croft I was influenced to study archaeology for a while, and still- the original three films did kind of foster an interest in history, world cultures, and religions. On top of that, I'm recalling Plinkett's description of why Indy works as an escapist character (the one including "he punches people" a half dozen times). Indy is someone it would be cool to be, not someone that has to deal with real world issues like aging. I always thought Indy drinking from the Grail at the end and being granted "everlasting life" was the perfect way to cap off the character- that should be the final word, he lives on forever now, no longer just a mere mortal but a character that lives on and we look back on. And in the very end he rides off into the sunset. That's the end. But of course, Hollywood can't leave well enough alone. Hopefully this is the final nail in the coffin for Lucasfilm. But we know it won't. Also, something interesting- the artifacts in the original three films were based on things described in the world's myths and religions. Crystal Skull was based on some of Dan Aykroyd's insane paranormalist shit and the Dial of Destiny...WTF even is that? Finally, how is Harrison Ford okay with it? The check cleared.
@@mikaelafox6106 I think within the literal context of what's happening in the film that's true. But in a more figurative sense, even by 1989, less than 10 years after his debut, Indy had become such an iconic figure that anything after he reconciles with his father and rides off into the sunset in Last Crusade seems subtractive from his legacy. He's immortal in a figurative sense after that.
I never like Lara Croft as a character. Nothing to really cheer for. She comes off as obnoxious to me. Indiana Jones a much more relatable character to the average person, with all the vulnerabilities of normal people.
The problem with these characters being snarky, is that they'll point to a Tony Stark or a Peter being snarky and they go "WELL WHAT ABOUT THEM" The difference is, the audience feels like those are OUR asshole friend, They are being snarky to people we are rooting against. PWB and Captain Marvel feel like they are being assholes TO us, not FOR us.
There's an interesting interview about Marnie, Saturday Night Fever would work as well, script was asked "You weren't worried about Connery character acting badly?" "Not at all, that's why you have stars, they can do it and the audience still loves them." The reason is subtlety, they are subtle. PWB got on my wick just watching her in the theatre at Cannes.
Here’s my pitch for Indiana jones VI. Short round is traveling through south east Asia wearing the iconic hat. He’s sad about his friends being dead but honors their memory by carrying on with their work. He stumbles into a prisoner of war camp and finds mutt held for over a decade. Barely recognizable. Short round breaks him out and they have adventures fleeing North Vietnamese Army troops. Doesn’t even really what relic short round is looking for. The movie will focus on family and never giving up. Towards the end short round gets knocked down the hat flies off, mutt picks it up the iconic music hits hard he puts on the hat and kicks everyone’s ass. The end.
I've been saying for the last couple years that the last movie had to be short round and Indy on an adventure from their past. This was so easy to get right. Mutt and Short round at odds because indie was more of a father to Short round than he ever was to mutt..... Think of that nature. Could have set up a fun buddy franchise for the two of them after Indy passes the torch to his two sons. It's not hard to hit the heartstrings and give a fanbase what they want.
Setting a last Indiana Jones movie with HF in the Vietnam War era would have been a good send-off. Historical conflict as the background while Indy has to gather artifacts before they might get destroyed/end up as colateral damage of the war.
They forgot how to write strong, female characters. Ripley? Sarah Connor (in the first two Terminator films)? Xena? Xena was strong, independent, powerful, but she never had to degrade Hercules to be on his level. That's why she was liked.
Harrison Ford looks happy because by all reports he doesn't take himself too seriously. Also, he's a fantastic actor. I like the comment about him acting with his whole body. Now I have to rewatch the first film again.
I just looked at the He111 schematics online. As I figured there are Fuel Tanks in the wing between the engines and the fuselage. There is No Way that Fleabag would've gotten into the plane as shown. I was shaking my head watching that in the movie and I wasn't wrong. Also I've never seen an He111 with twin rudders. I guess that they just didn't have anyone that could say No Way someone can do that. Don't most films have Technical people with that job to tell the writers that they Can't do something?
The most amusing thing is that this is meant to be yet another "setup for a planned trilogy" that hasn't just failed to launch, it exploded on the launchpad before getting an inch off the ground. Back in the day, all the progenitors of these films were made without concern about laying a foundation for more films, they just made good films and got greenlit for sequels. Today all they do is build a house of cards on a foundation of sand, and then blame anyone but themselves when these hubristic blunders repeatedly fall apart before they even finish production.
Nobody (with the possible exception of KK) seriously expected this movie to do anything but bomb utterly. The second I found out PWB was involved, I knew it would be another shitshow. She's utterly toxic to movies with male heroes.
Placing Indy in the middle of the Vietnam war and reuniting with his son for a covert adventure or something would have been a far more interesting movie than what they gave us.
That would have potential as Asia is full of archeological discoveries. They could have carried on the theme of searching for lost relics without retracing their steps from the previous movies.
I haven't seen "Crystal Skull". I won't see "Dial of Destiny". As far as I'm concerned, the Indiana Jones saga ended at "Last Crusade".
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The "magical brown little boy sidekick who can do everything" when done innocently is fine. When it becomes a trope played as a "go to" for diversity brownie points, it becomes one of those condescending stereotypes that might "mean well" but look and sound terrible in practice.
Same goes for the lgbqabc+ community. How many gays are ashamed of their preferences compared to the early 2000s? This is all the fault of the extremists
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Killed Indy’s son, took his wife, and left him with an abusive stepdaughter. Holy shit, the level of character degradation on display here.
Yeah. They really dog piled on Indy.
inversion/satanism the same
Not stepdaughter, goddaughter. Which honestly makes it worse that she treats him this poorly. She could at least show him some respect for how highly her parents thought of him
Is anyone surprised
Imagine if guys remade 50 shades of Grey where the chick just gets sent back to the kitchen. This is what chicks are doing,.
Lara Croft has been "female Indiana Jones" for 27 years. And it's one of the best selling game franchises of all time. Whatever they're trying to do with this will not be as popular as that.
Don't forget Relic Hunter, the female Indiana Jones of the small screen
I am worried about the next Tomb Raider game it is a re re-boot of the original…
at the very most, she'll be compared to Laura and everyone will say, "Laura did it first, and better."
Oh don't you worry Phoebe's got it covered as she's playing Lara Croft in the Amazons Tomb Raider series.
@@editmanrgg2844 🤦♂️
For those who don't know. The Greek inventor Archimedes was from Syracuse (Siracusa) on the Island of Sicily. Rome decided they needed to take the city during the Second Punic War. Archimedes, about 75 at the time, is largely credited with the year-long defense of the city by means of his inventions. These included a crane that lifted Roman ships from the water and some type of light magnification using lenses that set Roman ships on fire from a distance. And as cool as all that sounds to maybe see, I still ain't watching this shit.
Leave me to my circles...Roman.
Thanks for the info!
>>some type of light magnification using lenses that set Roman ships on fire from a distance
The story of Archimedes would be a great movie or mini series
In Reality it was Archimedes Unnamed Female "Assistant" Who did all that and the Evil White Male took the credit.
I get the feeling that Phoebe Waller-Bridge wrote herself into the movie, giving herself all the best lines. If you watch your favourite movie, and then imagine what it would be like to put yourself INTO the film itself, this is EXACTLY how Phoebe Walker-Bridge approached her role in this film.
She seems like an arrogant ****.
Exactly she treated this film as an ego boost and a vanity project, like how Vin Diesel does with the Fast and Furious movies.
Without wokeness and diversity hiring she wouldn’t even have quarter the relevancy she has now.
@@mitchjames9350but with Vin Diesel isn't that his franchise, like he has skin in the game so to speak. Plus that franchise has been going on long enough for him to know what the audience wants... I'd agree that he's put himself into the story however, to me, it only has kept the money train rolling for the FnF, unlike this dumpster fire
Never heard of her. I can't get this obsession Hollywood has with casting no name actors as lead in expensive movies first Jonathan majors then Ezra miller now this feebe waller person
The knock out at the end is like when Hugh Grant wa punched to the floor by a woman at the end of Four weddings and a funeral.
There are only 3 indiana Jones movies.. That's it
spielberg might even say there’s only two movies
Crystal Skull is not that bad tho
@@cokemaster3710 I'm with you there. It sure has a ton of cringe moments in there tho. But it's not as bad as it's made out to be in my opinion
The thing is before the Raiders production began, Spielberg and Lucas signed with Paramount to make 5 Indiana Jones movies. Therefore this was basically part of their contract eventhough both handed to someone else
And 40 plus hours of the classic TV series
Wow! Not only did Kathleen Kennedy destroy Indiana Jones reputation and our perception of him she actually killed off her son to make sure there was no Heir Apparent. Man, this is one woman who really dislikes men
She is also gonna be that person who when she is 40 is bemoaning the fact she doesn't have a husband saying it is "because they don't know what they are missing" or some crap like that
@@ericharrison4067 There are plenty of weak men in the UK who would take her, but the masculinity she wants..nope.
@@ericharrison4067 bruh I hate KK as much as anyone but, she's like 50 and she has a husband lol ....
I'm convinced that Kathleen Kennedy hates Harrison Ford. Two of the biggest franchises that Ford was involved in, she's destroyed.
@@ericharrison4067 Scar Jo is in her mid 40s and they shame men in general for her being single. Halle Berry is like 52 now. KK has to be like 65 minimum.
You know who I would have picked for an older female co star? Sigourney Weaver. She's in her 70's, and she still did a ton of physical training and labor for Avatar 2. Here's a quote from her about it:
"I don’t voice this, because I know that I’ll get teased mercilessly about what a wuss I am, but I think that everyone enjoys working with Jim because he does demand so much. On Avatar: The Way of Water, I was older than a lot of the other people, and we had to do a lot of parkour. We had to do burpees. We had to do freediving. Don’t you love these jobs where you have to learn some really outlandish thing that you keep with you for the rest of your life? Freediving, especially, I’m grateful that we spent a year doing that."
She commands respect, and she puts in the work behind the scenes to deliver the best performance possible. If this movie came with a better script, I think she'd be a worthy co star.
Sigourney Weaver is BASED. Thanks!
The OG strong female character!
Not to mention Sarah Conner as well
Good call 👍
She recently gave a very backhanded "Apology" that was essentially blaming Mangold for the film and throwing him ALL the way under the bus. Another franchise ruined. What the heck does she have on the top people at Disney? SOOOOO much respect for Speilberg's absolute public humiliation of her live onstage. She truly deserves no less.
certain island with owner suiciding in prison trips videos and photos. The only possible answer. Shareholders should fire the board at this moment...
@@crank1985 I'd make a comment about a certain person who lived just up the road, but i'm so exhausted by that person that i just can't bother.
I'm not sure I can see either of the Bobs in that situation; Eisner, on the other hand.....
@@danielvandersall6756 Agreed. Iger would be too jealous and Chapek would be bug-eyed confused by the gongs-on.
What did Steven say to PWB?
Kathleen has now killed the marriages and children of two of Harrison Ford's characters. It says a lot about her as a person that she has chosen to retroactively rob audiences of two different happy endings for no good reason or positive payoff. She is truly an evil person and her misandry is clear for all to see.
That's not Ford. It's cgi
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot besides the point but ok
The "old Indy" bookends from Young Indiana Jones will always be the true finale for Indy. He wasn't well received when it aired, but I bet he's gonna start looking a lot better to fans, and I bet Lucas now wishes he hadn't removed old Indy from the VHS/DVDs. Here's the first episode:
th-cam.com/video/Z9YEQt0dvTs/w-d-xo.html
I don't use the word hate lightly, but I hate her so damn much.
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot What is your point?
Indiana Jones and the Desperate Feminist.
_IJ and the Boxwine of Cope_ starring Fleabag Wallface-Bridge (and some old guy was there too)
They're all going to be desperate when they hit the wall.🧱
In The Last Crusade, Indy rides horse.
In Dial of Destiny, horse rides Indy.
Brilliant
Indiana Jones and the Virgin Lesbian
Chris Gore it's such a great speaker, he describes his thoughts without ever getting riled up or emotional about it. Clean and professional, a rare sight as of late.
I still find it strange, that Sean Connery played Harrison Ford's father at 59, yet Harrison Ford himself is about to turn 81. I don't know which I dislike more: all these geriatric men and women pretending to be sexy, young, athletic superheroes - or all these younger, androgynous, hormonally-crushed, beanpole children pretending to be muscular heroes. It's an uncanny valley situation far beyond any possible suspension of disbelief.
The problem is not about the age, its about honoring the character.
Thats why season 3 of Picard worked. They all are in their 70s, Stewart is in his 80s, but Matalas wrote a script that gave them propper story and believable dialouge. You cant pull the "modern audience" switch without honoring the old. + that message of S3 was phenomenal, the young are infected by a dangerous hive (twitter) and the old (pre social media bubble) generation has t fix humanity. BOOM SUNK!
Yeah Connery was only like 13 years older than Harrison and he played his father, but it worked, they used make up and made Connery look older,
@@thomasnieswandt8805 unfortunately the first two seasons of Picard were dog shit. If they did every season of picard like season 3. I’d watch the fuck out of it. They realized what they did wrong and fixed it when it was already too late. Robbing us of two seasons that could have been good.
Connery is unwatchable, he is so annoying and irritating in Last Crusade, he ruins the whole movie, first two indiana jones movies are the best
@@bigchod-pv7eb I think Connery could have added more to the last Indiana Jones sequel.but I still enjoyed his presence because it’s Sean frickin Connery.
“Imagine Brie Larsen’s Captain Marvel, times 10.”
Thanks Chris. Therapy bill coming your way.
Good god. Now that REALLY puts it into perspective.
Like EVS said about Brie " She looks like I owe her alimony"
And the image of my nightmares for this evening are...
Brie Larson was definitely the prototype for this type of asexual Feminist that all women are now in film & videogames.
Not enough therapy in the world, frankly.
I'm 100% boycotting and rejecting any of the movies under Kathleen's control.
She is Cancer
That's what I've done since episode 7 dropped out her butthole
Rogue One is alright.
@Anoneemus Noename it really was awful. R.O. is no less paint by numbers as the rest of the dreck. I remember I didn't even watch the whole thing I kept noticing little things that were bad and couldn't even finish. I did however manage to watch more of it than the second sequel movie. I turned the screen off after the "can you hear me now" joke at the beginning of that one. That was a sad fkn day for me.
@@i_liek_bois i still to this day haven't watched the 3rd sequel movie
So glad someone finally pointed out that the body stand in for young Indy looked and moved like an old man, it was jarring to look at.
Twenty-five years ago, Harrison Ford did a throwaway rom-com (Six Days Seven Nights) with Anne Heche -- for which he made 20 mil, 12 points on first-week receipts, and repeatedly fought for more airplane scenes, so he could spend more time chasing his personal hobbyist passion (flying the DeHaviland on the studio's clock + dollars). I don't think he's been very concerned about "artistic integrity" since then.
Thing is, after making $25M, he could have gotten a lot fussier about what roles to take and creative control over the work.
Phoebe Waller Bridge referring to herself as "beautiful" is super cringy. She's about a 4 and that's after sitting in a make up chair for 3 hours...
Not only are fictional characters becoming ugly but even RL actors are subpar on the aesthetics department.
It's just pathetic and frustrating to see objectively beautiful things/people become hideous and replaced
Her forehead mole would like to know your location.
She is about as appealing as Brie Larson's feet.
She's about 4, but if we add the irritation factor, it's 2 the best she can do
She's a 3. At best. Move to Cali or a nice southern city and you'll see what a 4 is
Wow, they killed Mutt in Vietnam? That's beyond lame.
Edit: For those who believe that I think soldiers dying in war is lame, I admit I was unclear in my statement.
I meant I am pointing out the fact that they brushed off the death of Indiana's ONLY SON and we don't get a real moment to figure out how he even felt about him or how his death would shape the character beyond "I'm now grumpier".
If you are going to kill off Mutt, at least have the death of his only son mean something? Especially if this is his (presumed) FINAL outing.
And I have a hunch that it was done so the only person he could even realistically "pass the torch" off to is Phoebe.
I always liked Muttt despite everybody hatred for him (Shia didn't do a great job but it was passable) but honestly thought they wouldn't mention him just because he's the biggest wrench in the idea if the story.
It's somewhat worse that they killed him in Vietnam.
How so? Lots and lots of people died in Vietnam.
@Lucas O'heyze its more the lack of care for any kind of passing the torch. Just a hand wave "Oh yeh he died, anyway moving on". Its just sad the character couldn't be redeemed in any way other than killing him offscreen
They killed him off - just so they could parachute 'female Mutt 2.0' in.
They did the same with John Connor in Terminator Dark fate. Dani was just John Connor 2.0 - but in that case it was even worse, because it undermined the entire bedrock of the franchise.
I had hope to see Mutt in a quick cameo
The saddest thing is, if River Phoenix never died from an OD, we might have had some really good Indiana Jones prequels in the 90s...
Try the young Indiana Jones show from 1992, it’s not too bad.
I made similar comments. River Phoenix was a natural to take over the Indiana Jones role.
Man, the reveal of Mutt's fate was a punch in the gut.
Sure, he wasn't a beloved supporting character as Jones Sr or Sallah, but I guess they never learn from Alien 3 or Terminator Dark Fate. I always thought they can still revamp the character in such a way, make him more mature & show signs of growth.
But nah, we don't deserve happiness in this world.
I'm gonna stop you right there. Indy getting divorce papers and Mutt died in Vietnam. In his first scene. What. Hard pass.
Undoing the previous movie in the franchise in the first scene is pretty common these days unfortunately.
Damn could have had Mutt find the mystic crossbow in vietnam (said to be able to fire infinite arrow) or the famous " "sword in the lake" (not Arthurian myth)
It's Alien 3 all over again.
"It is written for Kathleen Kennedy." WOW. Guy just stated ALL of disney's problems.
I never realized it until I read this, but your comment is spot on for every Disney film for the last few years. So true.
@@Koopyspappy Both🤮
Brutal. But true, in retrospect.
And what was shown, if I remember correctly, was the reshoot "Make it sell or GTFO" cut if the film, not the original "Kennedy" cut that got leaked and forced them to do reshoots. I wonder if they'll talk about "what we originally had planned" on the dvd extras?
I have no problem with them making movies for women, just don't expect me to watch them. If they ever start making movies for my demographic again, I'll watch them. But that's not likely to happen. I'm an old Gen X'r.
It's okay to have a character divorced and miserable if there's actually a reason. Like John McClane in Die Hard 1, his estrangement from his wife is used to build this incredible character arc where he is humanised as a flawed man, then saves her and shows her that he loves her.
Unfortunately modern "writers" just add these things to ruin old characters and make them miserable husks, not to build character development.
very true
I just hope that everyone saying they're not going to see it will actually stand by that conviction. There is no other way to send these studios the message than by not giving them our money.
Good point.
If I want to see an Indiana Jones movie made after the 1980s, I'll watch the first Mummy movie with Brendan Fraser.
And if I want to play an adventure game, I’ll play the Uncharted series.
Amen
Great call. And the female character in that is smart rather than arrogant. A good balance unlike what this sounds like.
@@edmontonboy99 thx, but Imma go with the sexy one
I like Mummy because it has its own flavour but still is in the same category
I appreciate the spoiler of the vietnam death and divorce papers. It didn't just kill any remaining desire I had to see the last entry, it shredded the body, cremated the mush, buried the ashes and salted the earth the ashes were buried in just to be sure.
I mean, I was never going to see it anyway, but that tidbit sealed the deal.
Should be a top comment lmao
“Not only was i not going to buy a ticket, i’m also pirating it now”
My thoughts exactly. What an absolutely garbage decision.
Same. Definitely not gonna watch that movie...I was dumb enough to watch TLJ and TROS, I learned my lesson now.
you think that's bad I just watched a video with the Drinker in it and the host totally spoiled GOTG3 for me and that was much worse!
I'd rather sit through Crystal Skull a dozen times than spend five minutes watching this dumpster fire.
Wow, they really didn't like Indy having an happy ending eh?
Crusade and even skull ended on a happy note.
That getting glassed from orbit right after the "young Indy" part just feels... dirty.
Edit: Ah, they do the Back to the future "Have a better today" at the end. But only if he stays home from now on.
I used to think the dumb Star Wars "Let the past die, kill it if you have to" line was just written to show just how naive and indoctrinated Kylo was.
I never would have guessed it was the bloody modus operandi, slogan and life goal of grand Moff Kennedy.
Have you seen the film? It is a happy ending! of sorts.
This reminds me of that pre-screening sneak preview of *The Rise of Soywalker* where the Millennium Falcon was blown up. When you go far beyond not caring anymore (at least when it comes to the new stuff; I’ll *NEVER* give up on the stuff that is genuinely good), I now just want to see just how _horribly_ they can screw things up.
It’s a shame you don’t have any (heh heh) rebels among the Left to just hit the Easy Button and release *EVERYTHING:* all the scrapbook edits, all cuts… *EVERYTHING!*
Spielberg not acknowledging Kathleen Kennedy during the premiere is gold in itself
Hell Yeah ! He totally knows what's going on.
I don’t need to see the movie. That alone was worth the entire mess of a production. I suspect they’ll be comedy videos forthcoming based on that moment.
@@josephbrown9685 it was a Nerdrotic nooner or bbc episode, in the first 6 minutes they l Gary played an audio of Spielberg talking about how kk would offer utterly stupid creative contributions, implying he hated it because he described it as her interrupting the creative process to do it
That was a great moment. Spielberg clearly doesn't like Kennedy; there's a reason why he stepped down as director for the movie ("creative differences").
@@cosmictreason2242 Is it the quote where Steve says She's horrible at taking notes but good at interrupting people mid sentence? 😂
Spielberg talked about KK always wanting to insert her ideas into stories rather than just getting the coffee. Now that she's had Lucasfilm to make those ideas a reality, it's clear that she should have become the president of Starbucks instead of Lucasfilm.
Preferably a barista, anymore power and she'd ruin Starbucks like she did with Lucasfilm. Though that wouldn't be entirely awful, maybe people would start drinking good coffee if that happened.
Starbucks would have died… which would have been a great thing!
Nobody ever told her to shut the f up, which is her problem
She probably screw that up as well. I wouldn't trust her to manage a lemonade stand let alone a Starbucks. 😂
But Lucas had worked with her and didn't say anything. It's on him.
I pretty much figured that they’d kill off Indy’s son. Because we all know that a story would take place in the 60s or 70s, and Nam was going on. So unless Mutt was able to finish school with high marks Nam was going to get him via the draft. But we all know that shouldn’t have happened and this is the end of the franchise. Because honestly we will need a new team and owners of Lucasfilm to rewrite or completely rebuild their franchises. SW kicking off with hopefully Lucas’s planned sequel trilogy that would erase the Disney trilogy, and Indiana Jones being completely rebooted with new actors (few I see can pick up the role, but Chris Pratt I see could do it and be a good successor to the role, but he will have to be very brutal with holding his beliefs and morals against the movie makers as to protect the future of the franchise from sjw nonsense.)
Let us all hope that eventually other movies are made with similar themes and ideas to that of the original Indy movies, ones that fill the shoes of what came before and do their best to bring back the classic adventure genre that is sorely missed.
It would be fun if he was actually starring in the movie, and it was about him being on a mission upriver in Cambodia a la "Apocalypse Now", getting separated from his unit and ending up discovering some tribe with a magical artifact in some Khmer temple deep in the jungle.
They actually screwed up the timing a bit as far as Mutt being drafted to fight in Vietnam. Crystal Skull was set in the mid-late ‘50s, and Mutt was supposed to be 17-18 in that movie. The new movie is set in 1969, so he’d be at least in his late 20s and too old to be drafted (the cutoff was 26 in Vietnam). He would have to have volunteered.
Love your commentary and your guests, your straight on the target!
Critical Doggo's input is spot on as always.
Right finally a patient podcaster. Makes me curious what he thinks.
I find it annoying, I mean I gotta sit there the entire video and wait to see if he gets belly rubs and face squozing. Every dog needs a good face squozing.
How long is the new Indy film?
Just watch the critical doggo instead :D
He heard the names Kathleen Kennedy and Phoebe Waller Bridge and did the only rational thing to do....go into a very deep sleep...IMMEDIATELY
When the doggo twitched, I felt that!
I was on a flight a week ago and decided to watch The Last Crusade, one of my favorite films of all time. Throughout the film, Indiana Jones is equal parts the clever hero and the bumbling fool, there are so many moments where Sean Connery gets to make him look like an idiot. But then, there are plenty of moments where that is reversed and Sean Connery gets to be the butt of the joke, and at the end of the day it's their combined wit and skill that gets Indy through the traps. Nobody is consistently better or worse than the other, everyone has their moment of triumph and failure, and throughout the film it is consistently always fun. But then you have a movie like this, where the failures are one-sided and the tone is bitter and spiteful.
I saw that the other day too! Brilliantly balanced odd couple film, and it all builds to that OTT Spielberg father/son moment at the end. I’ve seen that film god knows how many times and each time Connery softly says Indiana, I still smile like an idiot. No one dominates the other, it’s all about them reconnecting.
It has its flaws but it’s still how the series should have ended.
“Indiana…..let it go”. My favourite scene in any movie really.
Sean was so great (as usual) in LC!
AkuTenshiiZero No Ticket!
@@Arcexey How did you know she was a Nazi?
I like how the dog is in this group chat, and he just chills the whole time.
“GO AWAY NOW!” Followed immediately by an ad for the Indiana Jones movie. 😂
R.I.P Indy
😅
Listening to Chris Gore describing Indy 5, is akin to listening to someone reading you outloud the details of the police report regarding your family member's murder.
I hope southpark does a sequel episode
Harrison Ford is partly to blame for this nightmare. Should of turned it down and let crystal skulls happy ending remain as the characters send off.
@@patrickbatman141 should have let it end after Last Crusade though really
@@mosesdouglas4325 If it ended at last crusade we'd never of seen him marry Marion which was great but yeah rest of crystal skull is garbage. How infuriating that this one has ruined the only good about crystal skull by having them divorce. Absolutely dreadful decision along with killing off his son.
@@patrickbatman141 I forgot about Marion even being in Crystal Skull. Been a while since I subjected myself to that kind of torture. But I agree with you that it's trash and Dial looks worse if that's even possible. Btw great TH-cam name. The DENNIS system still one of my favorite episodes besides the Lethal Weapon episodes. 😆
There was a line in No Time to Die, written by Phoebe Waller Bridge, where the new diverse 007 told original 007 to "stay in their lane". If only Bridge took her own advice. She was fine writing and acting in quirky British feminist comedy. She should never have been attached to these big IP's primarily aimed at a male audience.
Fleabag was crap too!
@@a.cobbaut9711here here
@@zom8680 Just like Mauler I couldn't make it past 20 min in the first episode.
The character who tells bond to stay his lane gets outdone by bond to such a degree that she relinquishes the 007 moniker back to him and its retired when he 'dies'
@@DanBharry No doubt a result of the rewrites. She was originally intended to replace him, I'm guessing...just like Phoebe was here. What a fucking hack this woman is. lmfao
Smokey gave the best critical analysis of this movie. That's all any potential viewer of the movie needs to know. Actually, I think even he was too excited about it. I bet a common reaction from people leaving a movie theater after watching this cinematic lobotomy goes something like "I just wasted more than 2 hours of my life that I can never get back. Maybe someone should use that Dial of Destiny to go back in time and prevent this movie from ever being made!"
Phoebe Waller Bridge sleeps around in everything she’s in and has a snotty “I know everything’ attitude…🤷♀️
I think Indi losing his son should only have been included if the story arc would have been him trying to find the dial and going to great lengths to get it to save his son.
A positive and emotionally grounded endorsement of fatherhood?? Not on KKs watch! He needs to make a joke about it and never mention it again
@@jiggycalzone8585 more likely she would've said something like "He turned me down for a date, I'm glad he's dead, hope it hurt like hell when he died"
This is a great idea. Someone said this on another video, but when the story suggestions of people in TH-cam comments are better than the actual story of the film, you know the movie has problems.
I’ve got and idea how to save this franchise. Have short round running around south east Asia wearing the iconic hat. He can look for whatever mcguffin the plot needs. He should run into mutt held as a prisoner of war. Short round helps mutt escape and they go on adventures while running from NVA. Short round gets pushed down looses the hat, mutt picks it up the music comes in hard and he kicks everyone’s ass.
I always find it incredible how people in TH-cam's comment sections come up with better ideas than writers who are paid millions to supposedly do their jobs.
Based on all that Kathleen Kennedy has done with these male characters from Lucasfilm IP’s, I genuinely feel awful for all of the men in her life.
Frank Marshall has my pity.
There can’t be any
What men in her life?
What sane man would be in her life in the first place.
What does Gary Marshall see in her?
I'll wait until it comes to regular TV, it's raining and I'm sick in bed.
I refuse to pay money to those who destroy the stories we up to and loved.
Why do the new characters have to be so unlikeable? To purposefully ruin the movie business? I don't know
Indiana Jones is the purest form of oldschool male empowerment fantasy.
Unlucky + badass + classy when he needs to be.
The odds that modern Hollywood could handle that tastefully are on a par with their odds of creating a second MCU.
Nah, that would be James Bond. Indi is a close second.
It’s interesting because he was always kind of a jabroni. Nothing went right, he fucked up did stupid shit, got hurt, was a pussy about things, and he needed help from a whole cast of side characters. But it was done in a way that didn’t completely humiliate him. And he could be the shit out of nazis.
@@SupremeCommanderBaiser
They're two different flavors of the same beverage.
One is rugged, the other is suave.
One leans more towards badassery, the other towards classing it up.
@@SupremeCommanderBaiserand she ruined that one too
Big, big mistake that Disney/Lucasfilm didn't hire Dylan Mulvaney to play Indy. To play Helena too. Two for the price of one. Disney could have saved a lot of money by doing that. Boo, Lucasfilm.
So, in this movie, Archimedes could invent a time travel device, but not a weapon to win a war? Makes perfect sense.
I don't understand how anyone can look past this point. It's one thing to have religious artifacts that have mystical powers, but someone inventing a time machine in 214 B.C.? It's beyond preposterous.
Yeah they completely forgot or ignored how the magical stuff worked in their previous Indy movies. What really made Indy movies stand out from generic real-world-but-with-magic is that it was all pretty subtle and never clearly explained.
You never had a wizard say "I cast fireball", you had ancient biblical stuff like the Arc or the Holy Grail, ancient occult magic stones in Temple of Doom, hell even the aliens in Crystal Skull were hardly explained at all. With all these "magical/fantastic" objects the viewer didn't really care about how or why they were made since it could as well have been God or a (super)natural phenomenon.
But directly saying "this historical figure crafted this device in the middle of a battle to save his and his armies' asses"... that's just... *no* it's wrong. It directly breaks the charm of the previous movies and goes against everything that this franchise established. (So it falls in line with the rest of the movie doing its best to desecrate Indy's rotting corpse.)
@@lordhelmchen3154 Couldn't agree more. Even George Lucas said the franchise needed to be grounded in somewhat of a reality, and specifically listed time travel as something you could not do.
Marcus Claudius Marcellus after one of his soldiers killed Archimedes “well that’s fucked that then. Lads the trip to 1965 is off”
In real life, it's said that Archimedes built a bunch of interesting weapons to stop the Roman advance, including sun powered heat rays.
Chris Gore is awesome. Love that you brought him to the panel.
Chris rules
14:50
“She’s off to a new adventure”
What a load of lies. Helena only went for ice cream with the rest of the gang.
If you looked up hyperbole in the dictionary you'd see this guy's face
@@tk-5268 the movie doesn’t end giving you the feeling that they want to continue making Indie movies with Helena. A bunch of lies from haters.
This has kind of pissed me off. Marion and Indy are supposed to be together. As bad as Crystal Skull was, that was the one thing they got right. You compare Marion against the relationships with him and Willie Scott or Elsa Schnider, you know those relationships were not meant to be. Indy and Marion are perfect for each other - they had the perfect character dynamic, and you can tell Ford and Allen had a blast playing those characters. His crazy matches her crazy...and now they are divorced!?! Bollocks! And as for Mutt? Okay, I wasn't a fan of the character, but to kill him off in Vietnam - talk about lazy! Gee, Lucasfilm, how far the mighty have fallen!
It's not about being lazy per-se, it's about a bitter, spiteful woman taking everything away from a beloved masculine hero. Take away his job, take away the love of his life, take away his only male heir, leave him with no hope or reason to live, it's Kennedy's misandry manifest.
@@alopexau Don't forget she also took away Han Solo's love of his life, had his son hate on him, and then kill him off in the shittest way possible. And let's not get started on what she did with Luke Skywalker.
@@alopexau Spiteful. Perfect description.
It's sheer hatefulness for them to do things this way. Star Wars & Indy - all of our heroes got happy endings that resolved all the arcs of their stories. Then these newcomers just tear it all up out of some kind of bizarre spitefulness. It's parasitical - using the goodwill toward the stories to extract what they want and then discarding what's left.
So blatant these people despise men from how much they love tearing down, belittling and emasculating all of our beloved classic male hero's from franchises decades old and yet it's celebrated, encouraged and called "women empowerment". Not every guy on this planet is a Harvey Weinstein that's sexually assaulted hundreds of women ffs. There's just as many bad women out there as there are bad men. Why are we all treated as if we are all terrible and why are we being forced fed this constant petty hatred through films and TV shows. Society today is an utter joke.
That's awful to hear what they did to Indy's story. I mean I don't think anyone likes Mutt or anything to do with the fourth film really, but still, why heap such a tragedy onto Indy? Dead son and divorced? Wtf? It's horrible. Indiana Jones movies were never about that kind of stuff. Last Crusade literally ends with Indy riding off into the sunset, why do they have to ruin his life? Can't believe I'm saying this but Crystal Skull is instantly better than this just for giving Indy a happy ending.
They did the same thing with Luke! Seems the goal of the message is to destroy any role models and create female characters who take on the worse human traits and they pass it off as “look women are equal too!”
Hell Yeah !
@@LordVerdo Luckily we got Legends for Luke, giving him a more proper legacy.
This already sounds like the shit Indy 5 that Stuckmann once pitched on an episode of Movie Fights lol. Embarrassing cringe, tonally fucked.
They want you to know that ALL men are terrible fathers and terrible husbands.
Setting up Phoebe Waller-Bridge for a Disney+ show in the Indiana Jones universe for sure
"They hate this character don't they?" I think they might hate Shia LeBeouf even more🤣
Imagine if I went back in time and told you Lucasfilm is bought by Disney, they put a woman in charge who wears “the force is female” shirts. The new Star Wars films are about how Luke and Anakin were failures who accomplished nothing, and the real chosen one and hero is the new female lead, she is effortlessly great at everything and she defeats the empire and emperor who came back. Then the new Indiana Jones film is about a old Indy whose son and teased successor is unceremoniously killed off screen, and Indy is replaced by a new female lead who is effortlessly better than him at everything and replaces him.
You’d think I was going on some weird rant, making up a straw man to ridiculous and cartoonishly parody like to ever happen. Like someone making fun of feminist influence in films would make it up as a joke. But it actually happened.
no
stupid fucking clown world where satire is dead
@@razefan350yes
@@razefan350 yes
Fans in 2008: "Shia ruined Indy 4!"
Fan in 2023: "How dare they kill Shia's character?"
Killing Mutt is the biggest insult they could have given to Lucas and the fans and it's entirely on purpose. They're basically saying "we've destroyed your dreams and your future". They clearly hate Lucas by killing Indy's son.
"Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to."
Never forget what they're about.
It's the only good thing to come from Crystal Skull. Indy had a son! And he got married! Both taken away.
I'm amazed you and these others are stockholm syndromed so hard you've convinced yourself that the Mutt/Shia was good.
They consider Indy and his son and all of us to be “Amalek”. More info in the Old Testament.
I miss Mutt.
This is all getting like The Empire Strikes Back in early Summer 1980 when mischievous schoolboys were giving away the startling reveal that Vader was Luke's father to
others that hadn't seen it!
Chris Gore: she finds some booze...
Critical Drinker: *impressed*
Probably the last thing I want to see about a childhood hero is to see him in squaller with divorce papers and a reminder that his son died in Vietnam.
Even worse than Luke drinking blue milk from the tit of a space walrus.
What about being stabbed in the guts with a lightsaber by his son?
@@eblatz80 by Star Wars logic, he’s probably still alive in that pit.
I wonder why Kathleen Kennedy hates George Lucas so much. She has gone out of her way to destroy his entire legacy. Star wars, Indiana Jones, even willow wasn't safe. The only thing left is American graffiti.
And it wouldn't surprise me if she remade that, just to ruin it. Nothing surprises me with kk. It's such a shame though. And frankly sad, how she ruined so many amazing IP,s 😒
Daddy issues
Lol I mentioned AG to some 20somethings at work. They never heard of it.
Those without talent always hate those with talent.
@@irvhh143 I can understand that happening I'm 40 and only learned about American Graffiti because I've been obsessed with classic cars since I learned to drive. Twenty-somethings who aren't car people or film buffs would probably just think it's just some dumb old movie dad or grandpa likes.
This movie is gonna be a treat lol
Especially since they're rewriting and reshooting the ending again lol
Thanks for being based John Williams!
I tend to forget about Doomcock due to the fact that he hardly ever gets brought up. Drinker and Gary used to associate with him a lot but then that just stopped one day. I'm guessing that Drinker doesn't have a lot of positive feelings towards Doomcock due to his one reference to him. I guess it has to do with him always claiming that KK will finally be fired. I'm not sure.
I get that feeling too since there are some instances where it feels like Drinker is mocking Doomcock’s reporting and sources, like with the rumoured Lucas film sale for example. Which isn’t exactly fair to blame him for since the man is only reporting what his sources tell him and the man even prefaces that these are just rumours he’s sharing
@@Alastor999 You can just stop reporting everything that any wierdo that says they work for disney says.
Who didnt see this coming? PWB is the star of the movie and the original star is pushed aside, mocked and poked fun
at, all to elevate the strong female hero!
A traditional 'modern' recipe from Kathleen K....
If you have to say you're strong then you probably aren't.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the Critical Doggo, living his best life.
Her best life 👍
It is while looking at Critical Doggo that I know envy in my heart.
Blissfully ignorant of the existence of Indy 5.
You know what I don’t want from a legacy sequel?
One-I don’t want you to ruin the legendary character that was perfectly fine walking into the sunset in Last Crusade.
2-We do NOT want or need to replace every male lead with a female lead. That’s bad casting and it has shown not to work. Hollywood quit trying to hijack or childhood heroes and twist them. Come up with a new freaking idea.
It’s official I-a lifelong Indiana Jones fan-won’t be going to see it.
Just as I suspected. They should have done a prequel CGI young Indiana Jones movie and just had him and the other legacy characters voice the parts.
Critical doggo is making a lot of solid points and I think has perfectly captured the “mood” of the world’s enthusiasm towards this Indy flick…😂❤
I love the username lol
You remind me of my mother.
Sadly, only the worst parts of her. Like when she'd beat me merciless after spilling her rum.
he's so frickin adorable!
I love Smokey :)
He's the goodest boy!!!
They really used one of the most traumatic experiences american families actually went through, losing a son in the vietnam war, to spiritually destroy a male character just because they don't like him. These people would probably send real people to their deaths in wartime and make sure they're all men out of malice. How fucked. Probably would've killed Indy at the start too if they could've gotten away with it.
They tried killing him off in the past and making her the new Indiana Jones. Didn’t go over well. Ending was reshot.
@@dustinhogle3844The idea of Hollywood being scared of a youtuber called *Doomcock* is hilarious. He actually intimidates them enough to reshoot scenes and make him a villain in She-Hulk. He's got some pull.
Du du du duu duuum.
A wild Arnold Sxhwarzenegger appears.
Well these people want Ukraine to pop off for nato so yes they do
I want to know whose bright idea it was to have time travel in this film. I mean really, time travel? In an Indiana Jones movie? Just... _Why?!_ I'm old enough to remember Indiana Jones 4 getting shit on for featuring aliens, so I really want to meet the person who thought including time travel was going to be such a great idea.
Some of my best memories as a kid were watching the originals with my old man.
Like Anita Sarkeesian in the gaming world, we need to purge movie cancer that is KK and PWB
If you're still crying over Anita Sarkeesian in 2023, you have a problem.
@@lucasoheyze4597Dude doesn’t forget people who tried to screw over big industries, nothing wrong with it.
Yes, let's forget what that harpy did so it's easier for the next one to continue her work removing the art in video games.
If enough people don't go to these movies eventually they'll stop making them. There's only so much wokeness that investors will tolerate if it gets in the way of profits.
@@lucasoheyze4597 If you get so triggered whenever someone brings up or discusses Sarkeesian you feel compelled to attack them, you have a problem.
This trilogy truly ended with the 4 lads riding into that sunset.
The Last Crusade was the best ending.
I agree with you that was definitely the best ending. Kingdom of the Crystal skull was still a solid Indiana Jones movie though.
@@Ben-ee2xy Lol, Kingdom was shit and you know it.
Just like the Star Wars Prequels, sometime between 1989 and 1999 George Lucas lost his mind and whatever writing talent he had with it.
I almost walked out of the theater during crystal skull. It was so bad
@@ValiantWrestling Can't understand how a different opinion works I see.
That ending sounds like the King Arthur and the Knights of Justice cartoon. Merlin opens a portal and pulls a high school football team from the future to stand in for Arthur and his Knights.
Great group for a film discussion, fans of all these guys.👍
“The first thing we see is Indiana Jones in his apartment with divorce papers, and his son has been killed.”
I don’t even like Crystal Skull, but this genuinely made me feel depressed.
It's just so unceremonious.
Just "let's just burn the entire point of that movie to the ground and then shit on the corpse"
When a bigger ip killer blasts the previous ip killer for not being that good at ip killing and then proceeds to show you how its done.
This was one of the things I really hated about Crystal Skull; Indy's dad being mentioned as being dead, when Sean Connery was still alive. This is the same thing again.
and they want you to be because they hate everything you love simply out of petty spite. but if you complain about it you're just a bigoted fanboy though, remember?
@@kaijusoshingeki7214 hey at least that worked in terms of the story because his dad died of old age, not being killed off young. The former is depressing, but there is a level of respect. The latter is just downright depressing.
Blade Runner is probably the only Harrison Ford legacy character that was treated with respect and care. Let's hope they don't butcher it if they make more of it
Rick Deckard is the character name, just fyi.
That's because Denis Villeneuve has more talent than the entirety of disney/lucasfilm combined
@@idawg7332 Not that Kennedy would have hired him or given him free reign. Wonder what Denis Villeneuve could have done with Indiana 5 if he had been offered the job? Think he is doing a great job with Dune, looking forward to part 2
@@doberski6855 Denis is my favorite director working today but I think he works best for really dark deconstructive stuff like blade runner and dune. Not sure how he'd do with something faster paced and more fun adventure themed like indiana jones.
@@doberski6855it wouldn't have been an adventure movie.
Thanks you've just saved me however much it costs to go and see a film these days. I gave up on modern films years ago anyway. I wonder what clip South Park will parody this time for Indy 5. Pulp Fiction basement scene perhaps?
I love these 'let's recreate the scene from the classic film but in reverse' moments. It worked so well in Star Trek Into Darkness, after all... 😢
My favorite scene was when Indiana put on the Fedora, and reflected "this hat is perfect" to which fleabag responded "it will be once it fits a woman" and then she took the hat, put it on and said "now it's perfect". Indy tried to protest so she aimed a machine gun at him, pointed to her eyes and said "look at me, look at me, I'm Indiana now" and then with the hat and the machine gun went to kill all the nazis, embarrassing the all male inglorious basterds as well...
Lmfao 👏🏿 bravo
💅🏼slayyyyy queen😍🔥
Kathleen Kennedy's mandate:
1) Fleabag needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine.
2) Whenever Fleabag's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking where is she.
I thought Fleabag was just what the Internet named her. Turns out, it is a show nobody watched.
@@RobinMcBeth Smug know-it-all feminists (I repeat myself) liked it, which explains KK's interest in casting that creature.
Shia LaBeouf: (playing as Mutt)
Fans: (after finding out what KK has in store for him) *"Perhaps I treated you too harshly"*
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I’m genuinely saddened by this.
I’m at a loss for words to describe how disappointed I feel regarding this direction.
“Look at how they massacred my boy.”
It's elder abuse, they're also abusing Harrison.
Don't watch the movie.🤷♂️
River Phoenix did a good job with the fully body Harrison Ford-style acting in his cameo in the third movie.
He really was fantastic with it, you could tell he put a ton of effort into studying Ford's mannerisms. The difference between a body double vs a real actor, I guess.
Indeed, Phoenix was a proper actor. He was suggested by Ford himself for young Indy after playing Ford's son in "The Mosquito Coast". That kind of casting care and attention to detail is often a foreign thing in these franchises now.
Gah...I have a lot to say here. I'm used to classic franchises getting burned to the ground in the name of PROGRESS, but Indy was one that definitely meant something to me. Between Indy and Lara Croft I was influenced to study archaeology for a while, and still- the original three films did kind of foster an interest in history, world cultures, and religions.
On top of that, I'm recalling Plinkett's description of why Indy works as an escapist character (the one including "he punches people" a half dozen times). Indy is someone it would be cool to be, not someone that has to deal with real world issues like aging. I always thought Indy drinking from the Grail at the end and being granted "everlasting life" was the perfect way to cap off the character- that should be the final word, he lives on forever now, no longer just a mere mortal but a character that lives on and we look back on. And in the very end he rides off into the sunset. That's the end.
But of course, Hollywood can't leave well enough alone. Hopefully this is the final nail in the coffin for Lucasfilm. But we know it won't.
Also, something interesting- the artifacts in the original three films were based on things described in the world's myths and religions. Crystal Skull was based on some of Dan Aykroyd's insane paranormalist shit and the Dial of Destiny...WTF even is that?
Finally, how is Harrison Ford okay with it? The check cleared.
I always imagined he’d have “everlasting life” only if he stayed to guard the cup. If the cup couldn’t pass the seal, neither could he.
@@mikaelafox6106 I think within the literal context of what's happening in the film that's true. But in a more figurative sense, even by 1989, less than 10 years after his debut, Indy had become such an iconic figure that anything after he reconciles with his father and rides off into the sunset in Last Crusade seems subtractive from his legacy. He's immortal in a figurative sense after that.
I never like Lara Croft as a character. Nothing to really cheer for. She comes off as obnoxious to me. Indiana Jones a much more relatable character to the average person, with all the vulnerabilities of normal people.
Time to start re-watching Errol Flynn, Humphrey Bogart, John Wayne,....
The problem with these characters being snarky, is that they'll point to a Tony Stark or a Peter being snarky and they go "WELL WHAT ABOUT THEM"
The difference is, the audience feels like those are OUR asshole friend, They are being snarky to people we are rooting against. PWB and Captain Marvel feel like they are being assholes TO us, not FOR us.
There's an interesting interview about Marnie, Saturday Night Fever would work as well, script was asked "You weren't worried about Connery character acting badly?" "Not at all, that's why you have stars, they can do it and the audience still loves them." The reason is subtlety, they are subtle. PWB got on my wick just watching her in the theatre at Cannes.
Like Bugs Bunny. He's only in the face of people (or Martians) that deserve it.
An adventure with Indy and Shortround would have been so much fun but obviously noone at Lucasfilm bothered to give Ke Huy Quan a call 🤦🏼♂️
Apparently they filmed a mid-credits scene where Indy meets up with him in Shanghai but Kennedy scrapped it.
sooo, it's another Indiana Jones movies where the villains can't get what they want and it doesn't matter whether Indiana Jones does anything or not?
Yes
I love the Chris Gore interviews on Film Courage!
Here’s my pitch for Indiana jones VI. Short round is traveling through south east Asia wearing the iconic hat. He’s sad about his friends being dead but honors their memory by carrying on with their work. He stumbles into a prisoner of war camp and finds mutt held for over a decade. Barely recognizable. Short round breaks him out and they have adventures fleeing North Vietnamese Army troops. Doesn’t even really what relic short round is looking for. The movie will focus on family and never giving up. Towards the end short round gets knocked down the hat flies off, mutt picks it up the iconic music hits hard he puts on the hat and kicks everyone’s ass. The end.
I'd watch that
I'm here for this and it's my new canon.
I've been saying for the last couple years that the last movie had to be short round and Indy on an adventure from their past. This was so easy to get right. Mutt and Short round at odds because indie was more of a father to Short round than he ever was to mutt..... Think of that nature. Could have set up a fun buddy franchise for the two of them after Indy passes the torch to his two sons.
It's not hard to hit the heartstrings and give a fanbase what they want.
Except by the time this happens Shia is already too old to play Indy and we have to move on to his grandson 😂
Setting a last Indiana Jones movie with HF in the Vietnam War era would have been a good send-off. Historical conflict as the background while Indy has to gather artifacts before they might get destroyed/end up as colateral damage of the war.
It's amazing that Hollywood has completely forgotten how to make likable female characters.
They forgot how to write strong, female characters. Ripley? Sarah Connor (in the first two Terminator films)? Xena? Xena was strong, independent, powerful, but she never had to degrade Hercules to be on his level. That's why she was liked.
Considering that most Americans have forgotten how to raise likable female persons, I’d say it is anything but amazing.
@@Paulafan5Top Gun Maverick had Penny and Phoenix. It can still be done
@@MrCrazyrob666 Just dont include idiots in the movie production - problem solved!
Even Vasquez, but maybe she wasn't even a sidekick.
Harrison Ford looks happy because by all reports he doesn't take himself too seriously. Also, he's a fantastic actor. I like the comment about him acting with his whole body. Now I have to rewatch the first film again.
He's also happy because his check just cleared.
That is not unusual. That's the traditional way STAGE ACTORS ACT. They use their physical motions and not just spoken words to sell their character.
I just looked at the He111 schematics online. As I figured there are Fuel Tanks in the wing between the engines and the fuselage. There is No Way that Fleabag would've gotten into the plane as shown. I was shaking my head watching that in the movie and I wasn't wrong. Also I've never seen an He111 with twin rudders. I guess that they just didn't have anyone that could say No Way someone can do that. Don't most films have Technical people with that job to tell the writers that they Can't do something?
The most amusing thing is that this is meant to be yet another "setup for a planned trilogy" that hasn't just failed to launch, it exploded on the launchpad before getting an inch off the ground. Back in the day, all the progenitors of these films were made without concern about laying a foundation for more films, they just made good films and got greenlit for sequels. Today all they do is build a house of cards on a foundation of sand, and then blame anyone but themselves when these hubristic blunders repeatedly fall apart before they even finish production.
lesson: just make good films
Great, insightful, articulate comment. Well done.
Nobody (with the possible exception of KK) seriously expected this movie to do anything but bomb utterly. The second I found out PWB was involved, I knew it would be another shitshow. She's utterly toxic to movies with male heroes.
They had a critical error putting it together in the factory
Placing Indy in the middle of the Vietnam war and reuniting with his son for a covert adventure or something would have been a far more interesting movie than what they gave us.
That would have potential as Asia is full of archeological discoveries. They could have carried on the theme of searching for lost relics without retracing their steps from the previous movies.
Critical Drinker: We've seen some bad stuff...
Chris Gore: You have not seen what I have seen!
You can never beat the magic of Raiders of the lost Ark.
I haven't seen "Crystal Skull". I won't see "Dial of Destiny". As far as I'm concerned, the Indiana Jones saga ended at
"Last Crusade".
The "magical brown little boy sidekick who can do everything" when done innocently is fine. When it becomes a trope played as a "go to" for diversity brownie points, it becomes one of those condescending stereotypes that might "mean well" but look and sound terrible in practice.
‘Brownie’ points, heh.
@@brokenfingers9607 😂😂😂😂
@@brokenfingers9607 LOL
@@brokenfingers9607 Maybe drugs were involved, too?
Same goes for the lgbqabc+ community. How many gays are ashamed of their preferences compared to the early 2000s? This is all the fault of the extremists
Poor Harrison Ford. He lived long enough to see them destroy 2 great trilogies. Star Wars and Indy.
It's always great to hear Chris ' opinion on a film.
Greyhound sleepy 😴