Not fair on him at all, there are lots of players, hell get his chance. Rassie is testing and playing it safe at the same time. Libbok is still a springbok
Let the competition between them decide. Either way we in a good place. Manie must upgrade his kicking, Handré must upgrade his playmaking, Sasha stay the course, Jordan needs more experience and let’s see what Siya will bring to the table. 👍🏽
@@aidam-johnzekoe7824 Yet he proved to be game breaking in the world cup, what has Manie done that's been game breaking for the Springboks? I'll wait. For Pollard to nail several game winning kicks, scoring all our points in the final he's a legend now. He didn't miss a single kick.
I'm a all blacks supporter but i have say Manie is one of the best and okay his kicking game is off but i believe that i flyhalf with vision is better than a flyhalf that can kick, i respect Manie and believe he'll play in the world cup in 2027
Manie Libbok is a great player. We lost to Ireland in the 2023 World Cup because Mannie could not slot the conversions and penalties. If he can sort out his kicking boots, he will be far greater. But Satcha F. Mgomezulu announced himself in a big way and a warning to all Springbok opponents.
Mannie lebok has a great future. Incredible vision on the pitch. With respect, all Mannie needs to do is kick/practice 100 kicks each day before and the 100 kicks after training all over the pitch, Mannie would be in the top 3 no 10’s. Let’s go Mannie, moer those practice kicks Boet
We must take note that Pollard was allowed to grow in the bok 10 jersey with no pressure on him. He also disappeared in big games e.g. vs Australia 2021 championships but the guy was allowed by the bok coaches. I think the reality is when marney is allowed like Pollard to grow esp ghe kicking part, Libok will end up the best fly half SA has ever seen in the green jersey. But both are great flyhalves in their own rights.
Mannie is a attacking fly half behalf on his kicks...I promise this guy Wil bring out more for the boks... Pick him again in the future please and then you come back to this comment in the future...It was his first world cup... So Thumbs up for the Guy..
Yesterday the go to guy Pollard almost cost us the game also but the media does not even react to that. If it was Manie the media would have been on fire and the blame game would have been all over him. Manie still has so much potential. I take my hat off to all the other 10's in the Bok camp. All of the Bok squad is world class.
Manie’s attack and defence is better than Pollards. His tactical kicking is close and maybe better on attack (see France and Scotland game) but his kicking at post is not as good or consistent.
Everybody is pretending that it's just about kicking. Forget the fact that when Manie has an off day, it literally affects every aspect of his game. Then his 'attacking capability' is also out the door and he makes horrible decisions on the pitch. It is a liability and is the reason why a guy like Sacha is probably going to become the natural number 2 pick until such time that Handre steps out. Reliability is the name of the game. Manie is a great player, except when he is not and then he really is not.
Stop being so hard on Manie he carried us in the world cup until Pollard take over he done his part every body got there on and of days no one is perfect so pls❤❤❤
Libbok is currently no.2 fly half, if Pollard gets injured he should be replaced by Libbok. It's a mistake not to have Libbok on the bench. Sacha needs more game time.!!!
Honestly, we've seen it with a few players already, if Manie should go play overseas, I think it can take his game to a new level. He definitely needs to improve his consistency, especially in the big games. Right now, you just can't trust the guy in a high pressure game.
So play Sasha Zulu at centre. His kicking is superb. De Allende can step aside. To leave out Libbok would be plain stupid. He is brilliant and quick. The absence of BMT is a bit far-fetched. Take the goal kicking away from him.
Points well made. And if you Tony Brown you hoping Manie finds kicking consistency cause he’s the 10 Tony wants to pick and unleash. He’s the 10 that fits Tony’s default game plan. I’ve always said all that stands between Manie and 100 caps is 1. Fitness and 2. Goal kicking consistency. It’s not that Manie can’t kick for goal, it’s just that he’s either 90% or 30%. No international coach can afford those risks…
Libbok has quality we need in the bok squad. His passing and running game makes it difficult for the opposition to manage. I want him to be part of the bok set up.
Manie is insanely talented ..Think Rassie is looking for extra back up to Pollard ..His injury history speaks for itself ..No way end of his Bok road .. just starting.He not Pollard key to us negotiating France that match . .
Manie Libbok is still the second choice flyhalf in the Bok team. Will probably be on the bench this weekend if it is a 5-3 split. He will start against Portugal.
Pollard's days are over. Manie should be at 10 and Sacha at 12, and he could kick to goal. But Rassie insists on having the overrated Kriel and DDA at 12 and 13. I hope this changes soon!
Overrated? There may be better players in his position, but Rassie goes by the philosophy that 'the whole is greater than the sum of the parts' i.e. the 15 best players in each position do not make the best team.
I think this is just a minor lull in his Boks career. He's young enough. Lots of competition mean it's easy for Rassie to select another player, I know it's cliché but Manie's kicking having been hit or miss is probably a big factor in the Boks coaches not making him the go to selection. I felt he was getting himself very stressed when taking kicks during the RWC - almost going over the shot clock countdown so often - he looked so worried compared to the cool calm and collected boot of Handré. Definitely succumbed to the mental pressure. Manie Libbok is the real deal, he has all the tools, he just needs to believe in himself and become super consistent. Great video, very fair. Manie will be back, don't worry about that.
You saw with the current SA under 20 squad that you need a flyhalf that can run into and create gaps,only kicking is not enough in modern rugby,especially now that the game is changing
We will see, after Sachas performances. For me, with Manie such a good playmaker and outstanding kicking out if hand skills, that Manie would be the natural choice to take over from Willie le Roux. Keep him away fom goal kicking and let someone else do that.
Mannie will have a place in the squad. Rassie will breed another type of team with Tony Brown, adapting to the new rules sat by World rugby Mannie ( attacking flyhalve) as general and Sasha at the inside center, taking over the kicking duties and with x-factor. No number 10 in our country can kick to the corners like he does or kick passes or attack space like he does. When Sasha takes over the kicking duties, Mannie will also play with more confidence. These two players do understand each other's strengths and weaknesses as they play together at the Stomers, and with Damian Willemse at fullback, they will be formidable combination. Handre is a great player, no doubt about that, he proved himself many times before x2 time worldcup winner, but with Willie on the brink of retirement in the next couple of years, I don't see another fullback currently gelling with his type of skills except for Willie they compliment each other in play. The Stormers trio will bring something else, together with exiting backs like Eaton Hooker/ Henco Van Wyk and Moody, who can also cover wing and fullback with the eye on 2027. Let's not forget that if Nohamba gets his chance, he will also bring a kicking boot from nine. So options are a lot, the season is long, and i have a feeling all these gentlemen are going to play this year. We are still at the incoming tour, then championship followed by the end of the year tour. Back in the day, Larkham and Spencer weren't great kicking to polls, but Aus and Nzl were relying on other players in the team. Both Rassie and Tony come from that era. Those flyhalves were the best at attacking rugby, although the same flaw in their armory. When you get Tony Brown in your corner to bring attack within your team, you can be sure he will back players like Libbok, so do I. Rassie will again have a squad for Argentina/home and Aus/Nzl. There's enough players in the squad like your Joe Rolf and Aaron Mauger who can take over kicking duties at this point in time. The future looks bright.
Only difference between Manie being the best flyhalf in the world and not even should be making the Stormers team is to just kick the freakin ball downfield instead of crossfield highballs from inside his own 22, especially in wet weather. He's lost a number of games for the Stormers like that, pinning his team in their own half and did the same against England in the semis. That's why I think it was the right decision to take him off in that game. Other than that, inside the opposition half, he is the most dangerous 10 in world rugby. The boks certainly missed the bite he gives the backline on Saturday against Ireland.
Its really not fair for you to declare or pose such a question about Manie's career its definitely not the end of his road its actually the beggining...he cannot be judged by a few mistakes as if he is the first to make mistake..
Bro whats your issue with mannie, the last time we saw most of the boks play was in the rugy world cup.😢😢😢relax i like your chanel but clearly you have an issue
please bro stop destroying the young man because he is not in the squad.....its not a fair account of him......stop beating him when hes down.....please 🙏🙏
@@glennvanderwesthuizen3316 its the title bro....what the title indicate is not what he is saying!!!!but when you see the title First It indicate something else.... thats my comment...
I agree the title is silly .Manie will still play for the boks and can be a great player. But he needs to get his form back to the level of his World cup performances. Him and herchelle jantjies were pathetic against Glasgow and Manie had a couple of bad games in the Urc. Sacha is gonna push Manie at flyhalf as he has better defense and is a very accurate kicker .
So Handré proved in the Ireland match that he’s human. Played a very good match but missed three very makeable pens….You might say that he missed them just to get some of the whiners in Springbok nation to get off his good mate Manie’s back! Great team guy!
Agree. Think it's to early to count Libbock out. Pollard is 1st choice. If you had a big game tomorrow, and Pollard was unavailable, Libbock and Siya are your next specialist flyhalfs (maybe Goosen if Le Roux is starting as well)... Or in the bok system other options are Willemse, Faf and Kolbe who could step in. And now you have other youngsters coming in who need development and game time. So agree the flyhalf options are suddenly looking stacked, and some good guys are going to miss out over the next 4 to 8 years. I think some of the potential flyhalfs will need to also offer other options on the field to get selected. If Libbock and Siya show they can also play at 15 very well they'll be picked more often. Versatility wise i see this is how Sacha gets more game time. Jordan has it tough compering with DDA and Andre at 12 if not playing at 10
Everyone keeps on saying Handre is only better at goal kicking and Manie is so much better on attack, without any clear reasons why. This is fugazi, Handre is levels above Manie as a flyhalf.
With respect, Rassie could never read backline players, therefor the poor backline play, even during the World Cup. Looking at Jaden Hendricks, completely failed on him debut, not even the Lions pick him as their first choice. Manie is not up to standard, during the URC, therefor it's good to look for other Flyhalfs.
Agteed his kicking stats are improving and that's encouraging. Simple solution. Mngomezulu at 15 mannie at 10. To soon for that but possible and it may be that Mannie starts in DBN and Pollard sits out that game, if we win Saturday as we expect. Rassie is polishing all the flyhalf options. Fantastic to think that a fuy like Mannie has to fight for a place. How awesome is our depth?
If Manie can kick like Hendre he will be the best no 10 in the world. As far as the team is involved, how on earth could Rassie leave out Evan Roos? Kwagga is a no 6 and a very special impact player.
He left out Evan because he tries to do to much on his own .I promise you Cameron Hanekom will be the number 8 at the 2027 world cup .Roos also has discipline issues and you cannot play against the top teams with a guy that gives away penalties on a regular basis.
Nobody is destroying Manie , listen to the entire video...., this is a honest account of the current situation, well-done brother your content is excellent 👌.... I hate it wen ppl jump to conclusions, your content is excellent, ignore the haters ....
Why Manie has to kick at goal. He should just do what he does best and let any other players kick ie the fullback, wings, centres or scrumhalf should do the kicking. It would be sad if his career ends like this, but his competition for the no10 jersey is tough.
What do you mean by saying mentality his mentality is right l think the run out of mentality Pollard defense very weak, attacking skills weak, kick and charge he was not good in club home base players seems to be 2nd stringers
lol facts his overrated but people worship him no hate just his not as good as some people make you believe his only reason to be in the team is kicking nothing else
You guys are such fools he was the main guy that won us the last 2 world cups .He does have better defense than Manie , plus better tactical kicks and he can play when the pack is going backwards or not dominating .Can't believe you guy can say that he is only there for his kicking .And by the way he hadn't played rugby for a long time when he played against France so that's a unfair comment .And lastly you two clever guys if Pollard had missed his kicks against Wales in 2019 we would not have won that world cup , plus if he missed one kick in the quarter, semi or final of 2023 world cup we would also have been out of the world cup .He was the top point scorer in the 2019 world cup .I love Manie but he has got a long way to go before you can even compare him to Pollard
Slim shady you should rather keep your taughts with soccer i mean on what planet do you see the end of manie libbok go back at pollard start of hes carreer he also had kicking to poles on a low give the guy a break and let them play for the posistion Handre had his chance next thing you bring morne steyn back let focus on our fullback i mean willie should just step aside an fassi should play enough games but ja Oom Rassie must be carefull Last check Gayton Mckensie is 100% real an Bizza nie
He screwed up for the stormers 2 times in last year's urc final and this year's quarter finals where he couldn't convert kicks into points and as well in the world cup we would've beaten orland had he not missed his kicking so he is history unreliable goal kicker
I don't agree with you on Manie having a higher ceiling. Pollard had a very good attacking game as a young flyhalf. Tony Brown wants to bring that out of him again. Also, Pollard has excellent defence. I'm not sure how you can say Jordan Hendrikse has better defence. BMT is also something players seem to have (or not have) and Pollard has it in great amounts making him the best knockout rugby flyhalf we have ever had (in my opinion). Manie has very good attack and he is exciting to watch but I just think there are too many holes in other aspects of his game. He is a good backup though.
I think rugby should x the springboks with the way the play in the world cup manie no1 is only good for line kick and corner kick thats all his good for .The thing for me as a south african is that the springboks can only play a line kick conner kick game they cant tackle and play like rugby players .its like they go to line kick and Conner cick boot camp for the hole of the world cup that was all they did the entirety of the games played by them "sies " and then theres the red amber and green robots what the hell is going on in SArugby .Tothink they took that to the world cup sies guys i am disappointed robots in the game rugby guys no man .go back and study the game of rugby befor the next world cup please.
Couldnt believe he missed that kick against Rochele. Libbok is a good player, but cannot kick. Really, really simple, have someone else kick. There are no rules, no regulations that say Libbok has to kick. It goes against Bok tradition to have his number as the prime kicker.
Excellent account of the current status quo . Fact is Manie must sort out his kicking, great player but kicking is extremely important , reality is he has to improve his kicking.....
He is not suggesting it. He is just addressing a question that people are actually asking, because Mannie didn't get a start in the Boks' last two games and new players are being tried in his position. If you had actually watched the video instead of just reacting to the headline, you would know that Jordan actually believes that Mannie still very much has a place in the Bok side.
He is unlucky. Pollard is favoured. His kicking has also let us down. Only his best games are counted. His age also lets him down. Pollards weaknesses are rationalized away. Is this raceizim?
Used to love Libbok....he has no bmt and has dissapointef us on so many times...if Libbok can... really dude...at springbok level there is no sorting out. You need to be the finished artickel.....once he sorts out his boot and lack bmt....jesus really. Once a prop just sorts out his scrummaging he will be good. I will not qatch your videos any further.
Manie Libbok is a great player maker, his kicking stats are better than last time
The sun will shine on us again. Manie will be back
Not fair on him at all, there are lots of players, hell get his chance. Rassie is testing and playing it safe at the same time. Libbok is still a springbok
Manie is a very good player! Let someone else do the kicking please🙏
Manie is still very much in our no 10 setup💯
Let just all agree that this is a good problem to have, 10s battling it out for that jersey, we never had so many 10s at once😊
I don't care what y'all say, Manie is my favourite Bokke💚
Mine too
Shame. Feel sorry for you.
This is click bait bro ,Manie is very good ! Definitely not the end of the road for manie
There is 13-14 Tests this year, he has loads of games he will be considered for??
Let the competition between them decide. Either way we in a good place. Manie must upgrade his kicking, Handré must upgrade his playmaking, Sasha stay the course, Jordan needs more experience and let’s see what Siya will bring to the table. 👍🏽
Pollard's defense is atrocious.
@@aidam-johnzekoe7824 Yet he proved to be game breaking in the world cup, what has Manie done that's been game breaking for the Springboks? I'll wait. For Pollard to nail several game winning kicks, scoring all our points in the final he's a legend now. He didn't miss a single kick.
I'm a all blacks supporter but i have say Manie is one of the best and okay his kicking game is off but i believe that i flyhalf with vision is better than a flyhalf that can kick, i respect Manie and believe he'll play in the world cup in 2027
Don't worry . Rassie know what his doing libbok will come back . His kept aside for a reason
Manie Libbok you're young, talented and still has a great future in SA rugby 🏉🇿🇦🇿🇦God is in control of every situation.Amen🙌🙌🙌
Manie Libbok is a great player. We lost to Ireland in the 2023 World Cup because Mannie could not slot the conversions and penalties. If he can sort out his kicking boots, he will be far greater. But Satcha F. Mgomezulu announced himself in a big way and a warning to all Springbok opponents.
Please stop. He was brilliant but just left 11 points out there. Our prop was brilliant he just did not scrum well. Wtf
Mannie lebok has a great future. Incredible vision on the pitch. With respect, all Mannie needs to do is kick/practice 100 kicks each day before and the 100 kicks after training all over the pitch, Mannie would be in the top 3 no 10’s. Let’s go Mannie, moer those practice kicks Boet
Incredible vision ..... Bwhahahaha hahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We must take note that Pollard was allowed to grow in the bok 10 jersey with no pressure on him. He also disappeared in big games e.g. vs Australia 2021 championships but the guy was allowed by the bok coaches. I think the reality is when marney is allowed like Pollard to grow esp ghe kicking part, Libok will end up the best fly half SA has ever seen in the green jersey. But both are great flyhalves in their own rights.
Manie is an unbelievably talented rugby player. ❤️ Jordan Hendrikse had a terrible debut.
I like Manie Libock, i think he can create skillfulness that other flyhafs are afraid to create
Mannie is a attacking fly half behalf on his kicks...I promise this guy Wil bring out more for the boks... Pick him again in the future please and then you come back to this comment in the future...It was his first world cup... So Thumbs up for the Guy..
Yesterday the go to guy Pollard almost cost us the game also but the media does not even react to that. If it was Manie the media would have been on fire and the blame game would have been all over him. Manie still has so much potential. I take my hat off to all the other 10's in the Bok camp. All of the Bok squad is world class.
South Africa likes the way manie play rugby 🏉 ❤
As an Irish fan I think the reason we beat yous is because of manie but SA definitely aren’t the same without him
Manie’s attack and defence is better than Pollards. His tactical kicking is close and maybe better on attack (see France and Scotland game) but his kicking at post is not as good or consistent.
Safe to say Libbok blew it. 2027 we'll have a new Flyhalf, the new 10 will probably pop up within the next few months to 1.5 years
Everybody is pretending that it's just about kicking. Forget the fact that when Manie has an off day, it literally affects every aspect of his game. Then his 'attacking capability' is also out the door and he makes horrible decisions on the pitch. It is a liability and is the reason why a guy like Sacha is probably going to become the natural number 2 pick until such time that Handre steps out. Reliability is the name of the game. Manie is a great player, except when he is not and then he really is not.
Stop being so hard on Manie he carried us in the world cup until Pollard take over he done his part every body got there on and of days no one is perfect so pls❤❤❤
Libbok is currently no.2 fly half, if Pollard gets injured he should be replaced by Libbok.
It's a mistake not to have Libbok on the bench. Sacha needs more game time.!!!
Libbok wasn't on the bench because of the 6-2 split. If you go that way, your 2 backs need to be extra versatile.
Honestly, we've seen it with a few players already, if Manie should go play overseas, I think it can take his game to a new level. He definitely needs to improve his consistency, especially in the big games. Right now, you just can't trust the guy in a high pressure game.
Manie must get Vlok as a kicking coach.
So play Sasha Zulu at centre. His kicking is superb. De Allende can step aside. To leave out Libbok would be plain stupid. He is brilliant and quick. The absence of BMT is a bit far-fetched. Take the goal kicking away from him.
Manie won us the toughest match in the WC... The quarter final
No, he didn't, Poephol
Points well made. And if you Tony Brown you hoping Manie finds kicking consistency cause he’s the 10 Tony wants to pick and unleash. He’s the 10 that fits Tony’s default game plan. I’ve always said all that stands between Manie and 100 caps is 1. Fitness and 2. Goal kicking consistency. It’s not that Manie can’t kick for goal, it’s just that he’s either 90% or 30%. No international coach can afford those risks…
Libbok has quality we need in the bok squad. His passing and running game makes it difficult for the opposition to manage. I want him to be part of the bok set up.
Manie is insanely talented ..Think Rassie is looking for extra back up to Pollard ..His injury history speaks for itself ..No way end of his Bok road .. just starting.He not Pollard key to us negotiating France that match . .
I kinda thought Libbok would start against Ireland and then pollard would be on the bench
The sad thing is that in a team sport, specific positions are criticized more than others.
The standards you guys put on Manie to be a perfect player is very hypocritical.
the same with fassi, but it seems other players never get criticism
Manie Libbok is still the second choice flyhalf in the Bok team. Will probably be on the bench this weekend if it is a 5-3 split. He will start against Portugal.
Its good Rassie took Him out ...now he gonna work harder on his game and becom a better player
Springboks must score tries , any player from number 9, 10 , 14 and 15 can kick for goal.
Pollard only has 1 WC left in him
It's not his boots that are the problem it's his goal kicking
Pollard's days are over. Manie should be at 10 and Sacha at 12, and he could kick to goal. But Rassie insists on having the overrated Kriel and DDA at 12 and 13. I hope this changes soon!
Overrated? There may be better players in his position, but Rassie goes by the philosophy that 'the whole is greater than the sum of the parts' i.e. the 15 best players in each position do not make the best team.
I think this is just a minor lull in his Boks career. He's young enough. Lots of competition mean it's easy for Rassie to select another player, I know it's cliché but Manie's kicking having been hit or miss is probably a big factor in the Boks coaches not making him the go to selection. I felt he was getting himself very stressed when taking kicks during the RWC - almost going over the shot clock countdown so often - he looked so worried compared to the cool calm and collected boot of Handré. Definitely succumbed to the mental pressure. Manie Libbok is the real deal, he has all the tools, he just needs to believe in himself and become super consistent. Great video, very fair. Manie will be back, don't worry about that.
You saw with the current SA under 20 squad that you need a flyhalf that can run into and create gaps,only kicking is not enough in modern rugby,especially now that the game is changing
There's absolutely no fall at all here, this is unrighteousness
Oh wow, all this time i thought he was injured😢
Manie is still the man....he make the Springbok Jersey Proud
We will see, after Sachas performances.
For me, with Manie such a good playmaker and outstanding kicking out if hand skills, that Manie would be the natural choice to take over from Willie le Roux. Keep him away fom goal kicking and let someone else do that.
Manie fan Not manie fan
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mannie would be my first choice
He reminds me a lot of a young Elton Jantjies. Showed signs of brilliance. But cracked in the Green and Gold
Oh geez, now you talking kak. Jantjies and Misbok are as crap as eachother
Mannie will have a place in the squad. Rassie will breed another type of team with Tony Brown, adapting to the new rules sat by World rugby Mannie ( attacking flyhalve) as general and Sasha at the inside center, taking over the kicking duties and with x-factor.
No number 10 in our country can kick to the corners like he does or kick passes or attack space like he does. When Sasha takes over the kicking duties, Mannie will also play with more confidence.
These two players do understand each other's strengths and weaknesses as they play together at the Stomers, and with Damian Willemse at fullback, they will be formidable combination.
Handre is a great player, no doubt about that, he proved himself many times before x2 time worldcup winner, but with Willie on the brink of retirement in the next couple of years, I don't see another fullback currently gelling with his type of skills except for Willie they compliment each other in play.
The Stormers trio will bring something else, together with exiting backs like Eaton Hooker/ Henco Van Wyk and Moody, who can also cover wing and fullback with the eye on 2027.
Let's not forget that if Nohamba gets his chance, he will also bring a kicking boot from nine.
So options are a lot, the season is long, and i have a feeling all these gentlemen are going to play this year.
We are still at the incoming tour, then championship followed by the end of the year tour.
Back in the day, Larkham and Spencer weren't great kicking to polls, but Aus and Nzl were relying on other players in the team. Both Rassie and Tony come from that era. Those flyhalves were the best at attacking rugby, although the same flaw in their armory.
When you get Tony Brown in your corner to bring attack within your team, you can be sure he will back players like Libbok, so do I.
Rassie will again have a squad for Argentina/home and Aus/Nzl.
There's enough players in the squad like your Joe Rolf and Aaron Mauger who can take over kicking duties at this point in time.
The future looks bright.
Only difference between Manie being the best flyhalf in the world and not even should be making the Stormers team is to just kick the freakin ball downfield instead of crossfield highballs from inside his own 22, especially in wet weather. He's lost a number of games for the Stormers like that, pinning his team in their own half and did the same against England in the semis. That's why I think it was the right decision to take him off in that game. Other than that, inside the opposition half, he is the most dangerous 10 in world rugby. The boks certainly missed the bite he gives the backline on Saturday against Ireland.
Its really not fair for you to declare or pose such a question about Manie's career its definitely not the end of his road its actually the beggining...he cannot be judged by a few mistakes as if he is the first to make mistake..
Great content 👌 keep it up
Bro whats your issue with mannie, the last time we saw most of the boks play was in the rugy world cup.😢😢😢relax i like your chanel but clearly you have an issue
his defence is not anywhere near pollard
Where are you going with this crazy bro. Manie is up and running.
Don't put him under pressure, he is a good defender and speed he got. Sure with our next world cup he 's capable
do better. Practice makes perfect.
please bro stop destroying the young man because he is not in the squad.....its not a fair account of him......stop beating him when hes down.....please 🙏🙏
There is 13-14 Tests this year, he has loads of games he will be considered for??
You are obviously not listening
@@glennvanderwesthuizen3316 its the title bro....what the title indicate is not what he is saying!!!!but when you see the title First It indicate something else.... thats my comment...
I agree the title is silly .Manie will still play for the boks and can be a great player. But he needs to get his form back to the level of his World cup performances. Him and herchelle jantjies were pathetic against Glasgow and Manie had a couple of bad games in the Urc. Sacha is gonna push Manie at flyhalf as he has better defense and is a very accurate kicker .
@@user-ve4vb4vp1h i do hope he get seleções again...because he is a good player...
Are we now only plan for worl cups? What about the years inbetween? Dont we want to win those games as well?
So Handré proved in the Ireland match that he’s human. Played a very good match but missed three very makeable pens….You might say that he missed them just to get some of the whiners in Springbok nation to get off his good mate Manie’s back! Great team guy!
Coach got to make way for the up and coming flyhalf who has not played ( or not many) URC games
I love Manie at 10 we have so many kickers Sach should go to 15 and take over the kicking
dont see either making it at 38
Agree. Think it's to early to count Libbock out.
Pollard is 1st choice.
If you had a big game tomorrow, and Pollard was unavailable, Libbock and Siya are your next specialist flyhalfs (maybe Goosen if Le Roux is starting as well)... Or in the bok system other options are Willemse, Faf and Kolbe who could step in.
And now you have other youngsters coming in who need development and game time.
So agree the flyhalf options are suddenly looking stacked, and some good guys are going to miss out over the next 4 to 8 years.
I think some of the potential flyhalfs will need to also offer other options on the field to get selected. If Libbock and Siya show they can also play at 15 very well they'll be picked more often. Versatility wise i see this is how Sacha gets more game time. Jordan has it tough compering with DDA and Andre at 12 if not playing at 10
Everyone keeps on saying Handre is only better at goal kicking and Manie is so much better on attack, without any clear reasons why. This is fugazi, Handre is levels above Manie as a flyhalf.
Manie Libbok must play the for WP send him back to Western Province
With respect, Rassie could never read backline players, therefor the poor backline play, even during the World Cup. Looking at Jaden Hendricks, completely failed on him debut, not even the Lions pick him as their first choice. Manie is not up to standard, during the URC, therefor it's good to look for other Flyhalfs.
SFM is the man. All else is just commentary
you will be disappointed
Manie is very good ,but hes very inexperienced!👀🤔😬😬🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Agteed his kicking stats are improving and that's encouraging. Simple solution. Mngomezulu at 15 mannie at 10. To soon for that but possible and it may be that Mannie starts in DBN and Pollard sits out that game, if we win Saturday as we expect. Rassie is polishing all the flyhalf options. Fantastic to think that a fuy like Mannie has to fight for a place. How awesome is our depth?
If Manie played yesterday.....se maar net
If Manie can kick like Hendre he will be the best no 10 in the world. As far as the team is involved, how on earth could Rassie leave out Evan Roos? Kwagga is a no 6 and a very special impact player.
He left out Evan because he tries to do to much on his own .I promise you Cameron Hanekom will be the number 8 at the 2027 world cup .Roos also has discipline issues and you cannot play against the top teams with a guy that gives away penalties on a regular basis.
Nobody is destroying Manie , listen to the entire video...., this is a honest account of the current situation, well-done brother your content is excellent 👌....
I hate it wen ppl jump to conclusions, your content is excellent, ignore the haters ....
No never he will come back to moer whoever else comes upagainst SA
Why Manie has to kick at goal. He should just do what he does best and let any other players kick ie the fullback, wings, centres or scrumhalf should do the kicking. It would be sad if his career ends like this, but his competition for the no10 jersey is tough.
Mannie my favorite bokke ❤❤ he will bounce
The rise, yeah, the fall of Manie is too far . Please rephrase . His career is too young. We have more to see of him.
i dont understand the enourmous hype SFM is getting even people who have never watched rugby are hyping him
de Klerk and Pollard are old-school and getting on. Reinach/Williams and Libbok are far superior here.
Get down to the Point, Libbok is good , but be reasonable, he will never be a replacement for Polard !!!!
What do you mean by saying mentality his mentality is right l think the run out of mentality Pollard defense very weak, attacking skills weak, kick and charge he was not good in club home base players seems to be 2nd stringers
Someone here says Pollard has good defence. He only missed 9 tackles in the worldcup game against France
lol facts his overrated but people worship him no hate just his not as good as some people make you believe his only reason to be in the team is kicking nothing else
You guys are such fools he was the main guy that won us the last 2 world cups .He does have better defense than Manie , plus better tactical kicks and he can play when the pack is going backwards or not dominating .Can't believe you guy can say that he is only there for his kicking .And by the way he hadn't played rugby for a long time when he played against France so that's a unfair comment .And lastly you two clever guys if Pollard had missed his kicks against Wales in 2019 we would not have won that world cup , plus if he missed one kick in the quarter, semi or final of 2023 world cup we would also have been out of the world cup .He was the top point scorer in the 2019 world cup .I love Manie but he has got a long way to go before you can even compare him to Pollard
why use such a title for your vídeo then your comments are not assiciated title itself?????
Slim shady you should rather keep your taughts with soccer i mean on what planet do you see the end of manie libbok go back at pollard start of hes carreer he also had kicking to poles on a low give the guy a break and let them play for the posistion Handre had his chance next thing you bring morne steyn back let focus on our fullback i mean willie should just step aside an fassi should play enough games but ja Oom Rassie must be carefull Last check Gayton Mckensie is 100% real an Bizza nie
He screwed up for the stormers 2 times in last year's urc final and this year's quarter finals where he couldn't convert kicks into points and as well in the world cup we would've beaten orland had he not missed his kicking so he is history unreliable goal kicker
Agree... Manie Lib will never improve as a kicker...
harsh considering he just won a world cup.
Yeah but his kicking isn't the best and is bad under pressure even in the world cup
@@Donnie-y6kwhat pressure he lost one game pollard lost one game in the 2019 rwc
I don't agree with you on Manie having a higher ceiling. Pollard had a very good attacking game as a young flyhalf. Tony Brown wants to bring that out of him again.
Also, Pollard has excellent defence. I'm not sure how you can say Jordan Hendrikse has better defence.
BMT is also something players seem to have (or not have) and Pollard has it in great amounts making him the best knockout rugby flyhalf we have ever had (in my opinion).
Manie has very good attack and he is exciting to watch but I just think there are too many holes in other aspects of his game. He is a good backup though.
Pollard doesn't make a no look pass
@@zwet4269 No look passes, or kicks, don’t win tight games.
I think rugby should x the springboks with the way the play in the world cup manie no1 is only good for line kick and corner kick thats all his good for .The thing for me as a south african is that the springboks can only play a line kick conner kick game they cant tackle and play like rugby players .its like they go to line kick and Conner cick boot camp for the hole of the world cup that was all they did the entirety of the games played by them "sies " and then theres the red amber and green robots what the hell is going on in SArugby .Tothink they took that to the world cup sies guys i am disappointed robots in the game rugby guys no man .go back and study the game of rugby befor the next world cup please.
Why is Manie's ceiling so much higher than Handre's?
Everyone keeps saying that Handre is only better at goal kicking. Completely not true, Handre is levels above Manie as a flyhalf
I like your content but I do not like your captions of the series of videos youve made on the players that have not been selected
Couldnt believe he missed that kick against Rochele. Libbok is a good player, but cannot kick. Really, really simple, have someone else kick. There are no rules, no regulations that say Libbok has to kick. It goes against Bok tradition to have his number as the prime kicker.
Excellent account of the current status quo . Fact is Manie must sort out his kicking, great player but kicking is extremely important , reality is he has to improve his kicking.....
U are killing that guy how why there are also guys that miss even pollard don't dump him he will come back........
Manie misskop
Dude just stop, 🛑 no one believes this is the end of Libbok, for you to even suggest that is crappy.
He is not suggesting it. He is just addressing a question that people are actually asking, because Mannie didn't get a start in the Boks' last two games and new players are being tried in his position. If you had actually watched the video instead of just reacting to the headline, you would know that Jordan actually believes that Mannie still very much has a place in the Bok side.
He is unlucky. Pollard is favoured. His kicking has also let us down. Only his best games are counted. His age also lets him down. Pollards weaknesses are rationalized away. Is this raceizim?
Used to love Libbok....he has no bmt and has dissapointef us on so many times...if Libbok can... really dude...at springbok level there is no sorting out. You need to be the finished artickel.....once he sorts out his boot and lack bmt....jesus really. Once a prop just sorts out his scrummaging he will be good. I will not qatch your videos any further.
I'm not a big fan of Libbok but for the life of Christ, can we please leave it alone!!!! 🙏
There is 13-14 Tests this year, he has loads of games he will be considered for??
No