Bro I got screwed very hard on a cbr600rr. First it had a clean title when he handed it to me. When I took it to dmv to get it registered, the lady said "no honey it has salvage title". " you cant put it on the road until you fix problems, and then go to state police for inspection, and then you get reconditioned title". My heart sank. I went tear bike apart to see what's up. It had a yoshi sticker on the frame hiding a crack in the aluminum.
I got my beloved 72 Norton commando for real cheap I just had to find new engine cases for it because she was blown the bits, a little bit of elbow grease and throwing a little money and I got a really cool bike now, not bad for a 28-year-old in today's day in age if you ask me, at one time it was the best bike you could own for five consecutive years 1967-1972, always loved vintage bikes now I got it cool cafe brit bike, old school tons of torque
Mature dude here. I rode my GSXR-1000 for 165,000 Kms. Parts were replaced as needed. Since 2011 my bike was only serviced by the same mechanic. It has a few worn places that you would expect, like the grips, , rearset, ignition surface, etc. All original OEM parts replacement (fuel pump, regulator, swingarm, computer) New Bridgestone S22 tires, chain and sprocket. But the fact that it has that many miles tends to put buyers off even though most of the parts are new or newish. But original engine and clutch.
This is THE BEST used bike buying guide I’ve ever seen. The others cover the basics but you covered the things that people actually need to look out for the most. A few months ago I bought a gsxr 600 from a guy who scammed me in literally every way you’ve just described. Live and learn, but I wish I had seen this video beforehand. Still to this day trying to get its issues resolved after it’s been in the shop 3 times.
Thank you very much. Just randomly found your page. I am an older rider and my first two sport bikes were used, one from a friend and one from the dealer. Since then I was able to afford brand new one. Your advice is 100% genuine and useful. I would have never looked this close before buying a used Sport bike. You honestly open my eyes of what goes on in the used market.
I also look at, is this a common squid bike. If the bloke you're buying from is a young punk and is selling a short stroke rocket, chances are, that engine has suffered burn-outs or worse, attempted failed burn-outs. Look for signs of heat stress. Look for rust caused by heat. Look for bolt heads with flaked paint. Look in hard to wash places, you might find the dust form of rubber that can only accumulate from burn-outs. Is the guy you are buying from a squid or a squid wannabe? Is he 20 years old with lip ring and a Hayabusa next to the one he's selling, or is he 42 his hat backwards and a pastel coloured T-shirt and crocs? On the other flip of the coin, the old guy who is selling a bagger. Has that bike sat for a long time because he bought it on the romantic thought of riding alone, along an open coast road, then he realises the closest coast road is 4000km away. For some reason, baggers don't get their regular maintenance. They get bought and wiped down with cloth nappy once a day, then once a week, then once a month, then they get in the way and take up room in the garage. Where I live, mud wasps will build many, many nests on these bikes. The guy's wife will often release information about that bike. She hated it when he bought it and now she was won the argument to get rid of it. You are spot on with asking questions, 50% of the purchase is the person you are buying from. Learn the person, plus the bike. The other thing I do, I watch TH-cam videos on this subject. TH-cam has a way of interjecting society with catchphrases. A lot of people will sell a bike, they will want to appear intelligent, so they learn from TH-cam. They will use catchphrases while speaking with you. If you are buying a bike that is 12 months old and the first thing they say to you is "Dude, it's OEM straight from the factory, check the decals", chances are, there is a guy who watches TH-cam. Catchphrases will let you spot a TH-cam degree at 50 paces. Use that knowledge to your advantage.
This man KNOWS what’s he’s talking about people!! LISTEN! Know what you’re looking at, OR take someone with you that knows what they’re looking at, BEFORE you get all willie nilly & start throwing cash at the seller! Great video my man!👌🏽
@ Of course! Same here. I ended up wanting the bike more than I should have, KNOWING what issues I could run into to…Huge mistake that I soon learned from. Keep killing it dude.🤘🏽
my brother bought a lemon gsxr 750 for 4000$ the head gaskits were leaking the exhaust started throwing smoke 3 days later and the thing sounded like a tractor on its last leg lil bro spent 3.5k of his hard earned lawn cutting money and the bike rides like a dream now 😂😂😊
I'm probably getting a bike soon, and I came across your videos from like 4 years ago and I was praying to god you were still making content, keep it up man🙏🏼🔥
This bs literally happened to me. I bought a 750 and the weird thing I bought after a friend recommended the guy as a stand up dude. I knew he was a reseller but has a good reputation of selling used but well maintained bikes. I ended up buying a bike and noticed no oil change was done, no new chain and sprockets, no new tires. The only thing that was new was a battery 😂. It is what it is I bought it because as you said in the original condition no marks, no scratches no dings and clean title. Price was around 4.7k Europeans and I invested around 1k over. Oh and the gas tank,my God was it rusty inside. I ended up cleaning it and putting a protective layer inside so that it never rusts again, new fpr new filters, and cleaning the entire fuel system. New tires, new break pads, new rectifier, new stator. I thought about selling it but now I am like nah, I invested this much I am not going to sell it because I do not know what is waiting on me with a new purchase. So I thought I’d save it and ride it. It’s a k7 with 16k miles on the odometer.
To be fair. I don't like mechanics touching my bike that I don't know. Some of them are incompetent like diy'ers I do all my own work and tweaked my wrist. Took it into a reputable shop to have the steering headstock bearing Ms swapped out and the steering damper is a scott (the block type) has a funny fitment. I said I'll remove it and refit it because it's tricky. He said Don't worry about it got all insulted. When I collected my bike the top triple plate was gouged to hell and the fairing mounts were cracked from being over tightened. He put my carbon front guard upside down on a concrete floor and scratched that too. I don't trust mechanics as far as I can throw them.
@@notmyrealaccount5245 I didn't. The clown told his boss it was already like that. I know the owner as a friend of a friend. He didn't charge me for the mot but that's only about £40 so not really good enough. After I left I noticed my datatool gear indicator had stopped working too. Turned out he pulled a ground wire by accident 🙄 This guy was an ex ducati dealer mechanic too would you believe.
My bike had the engine changed, painted frame, fairing repaired. But when you look at it from the far, looks good. I even added the OEM warning decals. Looks OEM af.
Like the video brother. I also believe beyond the lies..some peoples standards are different, which is okay, but that does at times lead to a "lie" being told.. i actually recently bought a 2004 r1, after not riding for 2 yr. Got a bit excited and over looked some things. Dude seemed like a pretty straight forward guy. I do believe he honestly didnt know some of the stuff.. im firm in believing some hop on these bikes and spin them, not realizing they need to maintain them.. 2004 r1 with 26k and it runs rather well. Just little odd n ends to be were id like it to be.. thanks for the videos!
Great video, I looked at a lot of used bikes and people always wanted way too much for them and they also just don't do any maintenance so the bikes all have issues. So I just bought a new bike and paid an extra 1800 bucks for a seven year warranty. Now a year and a half later and over 25,000 worry free miles on my Ducati Diavel V4 I'm looking forward to five more years of care free ripping it up.
Thanks for the more longform videos. I got my bike about 6 months ago, a Z400 2021 with 18k miles on it for 3.3k. I asked around and people told me it was a steal! And I still think it was. But I'm the third owner, and the second owner didn't tell me a bunch of stuff that I wasn't aware of at the time as a new buyer. -Chain/Sprocket needed to be replaced. AT the shop that was $250, doing it myself would've required tools and space I didn't have, but still 250 -Valve adjustment was coming up, that's $800 at my shop. -Tires were at about half-life, I'm gonna need to spend about $500 on some new road 6's -2 oil changes, $80 each with full synthetic and / So I put in a bout 2 grand to put the bike back on a proper maintenance schedule. Not sure if I got scammed or if that was natural. but dammit I love my Z400 ... after I'm done with her, if ever, I don't know if I'm even going to be able to sell her for the cost of the maintenance I did.
Not to shit on your party or anything, I just kinda wanna brag about my deal as well. I got a 2021 Ninja 400 with 1.6k miles on it for 3.5k. There’s scratch on the exhaust and a little bit of paint that had been rubbed off from on the rear fender from the guy strapping stuff down on the rear seat, but nothing that can be seen unless your face is literally right up against the rear fender.
@@thecoochiecrusader2185 nah bro go ahead .. grats ont he bike! 3.5k for a 1.6k mile bike?? THE DUDE JUST HANDED IT TO YOU!! You wont need to worry about maintenance like I have for a very, very long time. That's .. basically a new bike. Grats dude.
I picked up my 2015 cbr1000 last year for 6500$ with 7k miles, the facebook ads in this video are nuts. ive put 6k miles on it so far and havent had any issues.
Excellent words of advice and you‘re doing an amazing job sir. As a buyer, expect to become a detective and proffessional about the chosen motorcycle. Check out peoples reaction and Body language when asking questions, do they Look away when answering etc ? Part of my work as a motorcycle scout (and ex-motorcycle mechanic) buying bikes for a shop is knowing the future costs involved, get to know these in advance. Have always knocked the prices down with the tyres! It’s not the tread depth but the age. I ALWAYS have a Choice of at least 3 bikes in an area where I‘ve made viewing appointments, should the seller not agree to my offer I move on. I need to return back to the shop with 2 bikes in the van to have made the journey worthwhile. If I can‘t make an appointment I always inform the seller also. Admittedly, buying private is different because of the purchase being just one type of bike whereas I could be checking out Honda, Yamaha or Kawasaki within a 25Km radius in an afternoon. Have fun studying, I‘m a subscriber as of today and, Best greetings from Düsseldorf Sher 🏁
Absolutely love what you do. Over here in Europe, the sales figures for powerful sports bikes are on the decline in favour for an ever increasing mid-range market.
It can get real tricky buying a used super sport motorcycle. Typically those bikes get ridden super hard while rev bombing at every red light, bridge and road rage. If you know what to look & listen for you can find some really sweet deals but if you're not careful you'll get a lemon.
I never buy used bikes, I'd rather save up more and finance more than deal with the hassle. I don't trust people at all. Learned my lesson with cars a long time ago, ever since I only bought new and slept fine. Let's just say that if I had the option of buying a 10k 1000cc or 10k for a new underpowered smaller cc bike, I'd get the smaller CC.
Deprecation, Interest, Modifications, Maintenance, on top of buying it at the highest price the car or bike will ever be you end up losing a lot…in my opinion you shouldn’t finance…Invest in a lift, tools, and share it online now it’s an asset!
@@SpunkyBoyy I don't really consider a 10k new bike expensive, cars on the other hand, yes since they're 60k+ The problem with trying to save money by buying a used sports bike is that in case anything serious fails the added costs to repair it to new condition will be over whatever the new bike would have been, and you still have a used bike. Like I said, to each their own, I'd never personally buy a used sportsbike. And I don't know about the US but in Europe used bikes hold their value way too high. People over here still want 13k for a R6 from 2017 with 15k miles.
I've bought used since around 2006 but the sellers are a bit odd these days. All the bikes I've bought belong to guys who already own between 6 to 30 motorcycles and are thinning the herd. My last bike that I bought was a XSR900 that had 550 miles on it after 2 years; the oil hadn't even been changed.
@@langhamp8912 Two years ago I wanted to get a 2008 R6 or a 07/08 GSXR 750. I couldn't find a single bike in good condition and without shady things on either the bike or the sellers. Gave up and bought a new bike. Now I'm saving for the second bike, new again, meanwhile some guys I know still can't make their bikes run right and they're endless money pits, the best part of buying new is that you know the bike was never abused and you'll know everything about it and the service history and how you rode it. Not saying used bikes can't be good but I couldn't find a single one.
I can’t deny that…especially when it comes to older bikes…It’s extremely hard to find one in good condition, and finding a reasonable seller is almost impossible with older crotch rockets. I literally thought I was never getting this bike because of everything u just mentioned. You have to deal with alot of bs with used bikes, but u can still find them if ur patient..if u have to have it tomorrow you’ll most likely get scammed!
“No Time Wasters”. I always wonder how they sell anything with that arrogant attitude. It’s almost as if they want you to feel guilty if you don’t choose to buy their exalted crap, and that it’s not as though they consider it’s your time they’re wasting. Never ever called up one of those, i never will either. Also the “much loved blah blah ..”, or “genuine reason for sale” (it’s a death trap pile of crap) I don’t care, they just want your money.
Yes, it's the same. Dealers use the same tactics. I had a dealer list as a clean title, but the bike was salvage and came with a warranty waver, state the bike was as is, they warmed it before had, and the bike ended up having a crack in the clutch case, and on this model its an expensive part, thats hard to find, thats why they didnt replace it, someone put jb welded over it, n they let me ride the thing about 10miles, i could have died from oil getting on my tire and loosing traction
Did the same buying my 1st bike, 2011 ninja 250r, tires never changed rotted out, but was new so didnt notice, let a friend ride it who was more of a risk taker and layed it down,
I gotta be the hater again. You know what this guy should’ve told you to do first when you look at a bike the first thing you should be doing. Is Vin check have the seller send you the VIN number check if it’s stolen check if it’s been in an accident.
OMG, motorcycle sellers are the worst. And I'm a lot less picky than him about cosmetics. Mileage, age, bald tires, missing title... I do care about. Guys just totally destroy bikes and don't know how to take care of them. Literally, all you have to do is drive slower, expand your follow distance, and park it in the garage when you're not riding it. Change the the fluids and wear items... and 20 years from now your bike should look pretty much like it did off the factory floor. But no... some guys break out the hacksaw right off the bat and start to "bob" it... cut the exhaust off, cut fenders in two... and I'm like... are you a monk ey? I bought a used bike off FB last week, he said okay, marked the ad as sold. I got the trailer ready, built a ramp to load the bike onto the trailer, took the money out the bank, all over the Thanksgiving weekend, and messaged the guy Ok, any time you're ready, shoot me a time and date, your phone number, and address, and I'll come get the bike. Never heard from him again. So beware people just flat out wasting your time.
What’s the best way to buy a used bike if your a new rider and don’t know much about bikes via experience?? Like how could I find someone that knows what to look for on a used bike??
Try a family member or friend that knows bikes, or if possible pay for a bike shop to do an inspection or even a mobile motorcycle mechanic , yes it can cost money for this but if you buy a bad bike I will cost you a lot more, especially if something goes bad while riding that can lead to crash , personal experience on that
people are always trying to get more money for something they wanted to overuse. Unless they repaired to factory form or substantially made it superior than oem(9/10 times it has been made worse) but goos guide. I bought a project bike for my first bike. 80s naked bike. 500 bucks. probably could have gotten more, but woldnt have just been standard headaches. relatively amount of repairs. hopefully old bike tires a lil cheaper 😂😂. average price 2500. for 500 but about 10steps to finish. Nice for winter. 😊
That’s all great advice. I’ve been riding and buying for over 40 years. You also have to realize going to your point, if you can’t fix it yourself, most dealers won’t touch a bike that’s more than 10 years old. Point being if you have a bike or if you’re looking at buying a bike that’s more than 10 years old, you better know how to fix it yourself because the dealer won’t touch it
Really? what about independent shops? I'm a car/truck/machine mechanic, but am a little intimidated to eventually mess with my bike other than basic maintenance.
An tips? The other day my 07 600 gsxr had trouble cold starting, had to hold the revs for a bit or it would die and it sounded like it was missing.(It started ok but after 20 seconds the high idle shut off and then it couldn't keep it idling). And I had to rev it higher than the high idle had it idling originally for the first 20 seconds to keep it going. After a few min it was fine and idling. Next day no issues. Could this be the fuel reg thing he's talking about in this video? Thanks
these bikes were known to have the best engines in the game back in the day. specifically the 05 gsxr 1000. what do you mean lack luster back in the day?
It’s funny, a few months ago I traded my 06 gsxr 1000 for a 08 1000 had a bunch of stuff done to it with 11k miles, well long story short I traded with 1500$ on my end well after 3 damn weeks had a valve drop and was 5600$ to fix 🤦♂️ and it all happened becusee whoever worked on the bike left a broken oil Pump that wasn’t even spinning so eventually it just wasn’t emough oil and it slapped the spark plug, def wish I saw this before doing the trade 😂
two gsxr 1000 k5 one has 25.000 miles the other has 50,000 miles both look mint both same price which one do you buy ? the one with 25,000 miles were all done thrashed to death on a race track the other with 50,000 just had easy life no race tracks (good to no the type of life the bike has had rather than just looking at the mileage)
I’m not saying you’re wrong AT ALL, but EXTREMELY NIT PICKY BRO. A scratch on the swing arm doesn’t mean shit. It’s a scratch. Could be from 100 things.
all of that information is a bargaining tool dude. use it to bring the price down and ask them more questions so it feels justified knockin money off it
If it’s not a big deal then why don’t they show it on the ad? Cause they are trying to pull one over on u…That dude with the white Gsxr was full of sh*t. If ur up front about everything that’s different than trying to hide it and not factoring it into the price. Anytime u see DEEP scratches in the swing arm or forks that bike was down hard
@@SpunkyBoyy I don’t see how you can pull one over on someone about a scratch on a swing arm tho. With an almost 20 year old bike, I’d accept some tiny scratches are gonna be there. I just don’t feel like it’s ill intended to not highlight a tiny scratch.
It may be nit picky but when they won't show the little things that are wrong with the bike it makes you wonder what else they're hiding and hoping you don't notice
200 bucks?! Lol maybe for a beat one on eBay..if ur gonna do that u might as well just repaint it at that point….for a OEM swing that is NEW it’s over $2200
Well, I buy and sell bikes so I don’t wanna be a hater, but there’s a few things to add so of course the mileage and the condition are going to be Key how about what year is the bike or even what size of 1000 is worth more than a 600 but all bikes are different with Ducati‘s does most service is every 7000 miles for the older Bikes so if a bike has 6000 miles on it and it’s cheap it’s probably due for Desmo service or at 13,000 miles. Sometimes people tell you if it’s due sometimes they don’t and some people don’t know about Ducati‘s. They think they’re getting a deal and then demo service is 1800 depending on shop towels used set also BMW S1K there are certain years to get and there are certain years not to get another thing how clean a bike is doesn’t always matter because if somebody has Chinese fairings on their bike, why don’t they have the OEM fairings and mileage sometimes can be the worst indicator if it’s a good bike if you buy a 2003 bike and it only has 2000 miles on it and it has Chinese fairings and it’s super clean. You got a bike that’s 20 years old with only 2000 miles on it unless it’s absolutely mint condition original everything and there’s a good story behind it. Somebody probably reboot the front end and through a dashboard on a gauges odometer sometimes if a bike’s mileage is way too low and if somebody doesn’t have a title and they call it a track bike they might be stealing bikes and putting two bikes together. A lot of people try to find clean vent frames or low mileage odometers so like everyone out there watching this video you have to rely on the integrity of the person you’re buying it from. That’s why you don’t go to shit hole ghetto hood rat areas to buy a bike and you wanna match the title to the guy selling it to you with his identification I know it sounds stupid, but you wanna make sure they’re not title jumping.
Long story short, if you aren't very familiar with bikes, and very familiar with the bike you're looking at, it's a gamble..long winded video to say those things.
I’ve sold many many bikes…I have never and will never deal with a buyer like you…I posted what pics I had and sold most bikes in 2-3 days, some with multiple showings set up for the same day. I will not jump through hoops for a buyer, cuz there is always another around the corner.
I appreciate the tips, but guys like you are the worst to deal with when selling a bike, nothing wrong with a salvaged bike or a wrecked bike thats been restored often theyre in better conditiion at the end of the day
It’s wild to me when I’ve been looking at tons of sport bikes from 2005-2010 on marketplace because they’re generally the ones in my price range, seemingly every single one of them listed is between 20k-23k miles. Always makes me wonder how every single bike is within that range. It’s to the point where if I see a 07 listed with 40k miles I’ll be far more likely to buy that one because at least I know they probably aren’t lying about the mileage on it
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Bro I got screwed very hard on a cbr600rr. First it had a clean title when he handed it to me. When I took it to dmv to get it registered, the lady said "no honey it has salvage title". " you cant put it on the road until you fix problems, and then go to state police for inspection, and then you get reconditioned title". My heart sank. I went tear bike apart to see what's up. It had a yoshi sticker on the frame hiding a crack in the aluminum.
bruh phat L
sticker on the frame is straight up a red flag
Buying a crotch rocket is always hit or miss. Buy mediocre bikes from mature dudes.
That’s never failed me. Except usually I would buy decent bikes from older dudes.
Main reason why I bought my beloved KLR 650 for only $3k
That’s not always the case either
I got my beloved 72 Norton commando for real cheap I just had to find new engine cases for it because she was blown the bits, a little bit of elbow grease and throwing a little money and I got a really cool bike now, not bad for a 28-year-old in today's day in age if you ask me, at one time it was the best bike you could own for five consecutive years 1967-1972, always loved vintage bikes now I got it cool cafe brit bike, old school tons of torque
Mediocre men. Buy mediocre bikes. 🤷🏽♂️
Mature dude here. I rode my GSXR-1000 for 165,000 Kms. Parts were replaced as needed. Since 2011 my bike was only serviced by the same mechanic. It has a few worn places that you would expect, like the grips, , rearset, ignition surface, etc. All original OEM parts replacement (fuel pump, regulator, swingarm, computer) New Bridgestone S22 tires, chain and sprocket. But the fact that it has that many miles tends to put buyers off even though most of the parts are new or newish. But original engine and clutch.
This is THE BEST used bike buying guide I’ve ever seen. The others cover the basics but you covered the things that people actually need to look out for the most. A few months ago I bought a gsxr 600 from a guy who scammed me in literally every way you’ve just described. Live and learn, but I wish I had seen this video beforehand. Still to this day trying to get its issues resolved after it’s been in the shop 3 times.
I wish I had the patience to deal with sellers like you do. I would pay you to pick out a bike for me
I will pick out a good bike for you if u pay me lol
Most people on FB lie about these bikes, but if u know a thing or two and get them on the phone you’ll realize most of them are horrible liars lol
@@SpunkyBoyy I know that’s what I’m saying free money for me lol
I run a consulting business near Toronto and do exactly that because people are slimy near Toronto for bike sales
Thank you very much. Just randomly found your page. I am an older rider and my first two sport bikes were used, one from a friend and one from the dealer. Since then I was able to afford brand new one. Your advice is 100% genuine and useful. I would have never looked this close before buying a used Sport bike. You honestly open my eyes of what goes on in the used market.
I also look at, is this a common squid bike. If the bloke you're buying from is a young punk and is selling a short stroke rocket, chances are, that engine has suffered burn-outs or worse, attempted failed burn-outs. Look for signs of heat stress. Look for rust caused by heat. Look for bolt heads with flaked paint. Look in hard to wash places, you might find the dust form of rubber that can only accumulate from burn-outs. Is the guy you are buying from a squid or a squid wannabe? Is he 20 years old with lip ring and a Hayabusa next to the one he's selling, or is he 42 his hat backwards and a pastel coloured T-shirt and crocs?
On the other flip of the coin, the old guy who is selling a bagger. Has that bike sat for a long time because he bought it on the romantic thought of riding alone, along an open coast road, then he realises the closest coast road is 4000km away. For some reason, baggers don't get their regular maintenance. They get bought and wiped down with cloth nappy once a day, then once a week, then once a month, then they get in the way and take up room in the garage. Where I live, mud wasps will build many, many nests on these bikes. The guy's wife will often release information about that bike. She hated it when he bought it and now she was won the argument to get rid of it.
You are spot on with asking questions, 50% of the purchase is the person you are buying from. Learn the person, plus the bike.
The other thing I do, I watch TH-cam videos on this subject. TH-cam has a way of interjecting society with catchphrases. A lot of people will sell a bike, they will want to appear intelligent, so they learn from TH-cam. They will use catchphrases while speaking with you. If you are buying a bike that is 12 months old and the first thing they say to you is "Dude, it's OEM straight from the factory, check the decals", chances are, there is a guy who watches TH-cam. Catchphrases will let you spot a TH-cam degree at 50 paces. Use that knowledge to your advantage.
nothing wrong with burnouts lol.
@@High_Octane 🤦♂️
this video sums up why its better just to suck it up and buy new.
With the offset of paying 3x the price or more. Assuming its not unrideable or illegal to ride, its always cheaper to buy used.
17 likes are from dealerships 😂
I have the same bike. Bought it for cheap but had to replace a lot of stuff. It was hard as hell to find the red and black oem fairings!
I buy and sell bikes and this is probably the best buyers guide I've seen. Fantastic vid!
Litterally one of the best buying video yet not even halfway done
Got my 06 gsxr1000 for $1k and my 06 gsxr750 for $2k..I got scammed on the GSX-R750 but got it all taken care of for a great deal on ebay
Nice.
This man KNOWS what’s he’s talking about people!! LISTEN! Know what you’re looking at, OR take someone with you that knows what they’re looking at, BEFORE you get all willie nilly & start throwing cash at the seller!
Great video my man!👌🏽
Thanks for watching! I've been there myself, you don't want to end up buying a lemon unless it’s a project bike
@ Of course! Same here. I ended up wanting the bike more than I should have, KNOWING what issues I could run into to…Huge mistake that I soon learned from. Keep killing it dude.🤘🏽
this is a great video, I'm currently trying to get a used cbr600rr and this taught me a lot of stuff on what to look for in a used bike.
my brother bought a lemon gsxr 750 for 4000$ the head gaskits were leaking the exhaust started throwing smoke 3 days later and the thing sounded like a tractor on its last leg lil bro spent 3.5k of his hard earned lawn cutting money and the bike rides like a dream now 😂😂😊
Spunky boy doesn't translate very well in the UK
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I'm probably getting a bike soon, and I came across your videos from like 4 years ago and I was praying to god you were still making content, keep it up man🙏🏼🔥
This bs literally happened to me. I bought a 750 and the weird thing I bought after a friend recommended the guy as a stand up dude. I knew he was a reseller but has a good reputation of selling used but well maintained bikes. I ended up buying a bike and noticed no oil change was done, no new chain and sprockets, no new tires. The only thing that was new was a battery 😂. It is what it is I bought it because as you said in the original condition no marks, no scratches no dings and clean title. Price was around 4.7k Europeans and I invested around 1k over. Oh and the gas tank,my God was it rusty inside. I ended up cleaning it and putting a protective layer inside so that it never rusts again, new fpr new filters, and cleaning the entire fuel system. New tires, new break pads, new rectifier, new stator. I thought about selling it but now I am like nah, I invested this much I am not going to sell it because I do not know what is waiting on me with a new purchase. So I thought I’d save it and ride it. It’s a k7 with 16k miles on the odometer.
you presented this info so well. both informative and entertaining. thank you for the video
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I’ve asked guys if I could take it to a shop first I’ll pay, and they get pissed off and tell me I’m wasting there time
a red flag there haha
To be fair. I don't like mechanics touching my bike that I don't know.
Some of them are incompetent like diy'ers
I do all my own work and tweaked my wrist. Took it into a reputable shop to have the steering headstock bearing Ms swapped out and the steering damper is a scott (the block type) has a funny fitment.
I said I'll remove it and refit it because it's tricky. He said Don't worry about it got all insulted.
When I collected my bike the top triple plate was gouged to hell and the fairing mounts were cracked from being over tightened.
He put my carbon front guard upside down on a concrete floor and scratched that too.
I don't trust mechanics as far as I can throw them.
@@0TheLastLoneWolf do you get any compensation from that?
@@notmyrealaccount5245 I didn't. The clown told his boss it was already like that.
I know the owner as a friend of a friend. He didn't charge me for the mot but that's only about £40 so not really good enough. After I left I noticed my datatool gear indicator had stopped working too. Turned out he pulled a ground wire by accident 🙄
This guy was an ex ducati dealer mechanic too would you believe.
@ were you compensated for any of this?
My bike had the engine changed, painted frame, fairing repaired. But when you look at it from the far, looks good. I even added the OEM warning decals. Looks OEM af.
this is honestly a great great video. Appreciate it man
Like the video brother. I also believe beyond the lies..some peoples standards are different, which is okay, but that does at times lead to a "lie" being told.. i actually recently bought a 2004 r1, after not riding for 2 yr. Got a bit excited and over looked some things. Dude seemed like a pretty straight forward guy. I do believe he honestly didnt know some of the stuff.. im firm in believing some hop on these bikes and spin them, not realizing they need to maintain them.. 2004 r1 with 26k and it runs rather well. Just little odd n ends to be were id like it to be.. thanks for the videos!
Thanks for the information, love your hair.
Amazing video as usual, man. Great tips!
Thanks👌🏻 Glad you found it helpful!
This channel is doing great! From pull starting your gxsr to... I'm listening
Very good video. So much good info. The pics you included were so helpful.
Great video, I looked at a lot of used bikes and people always wanted way too much for them and they also just don't do any maintenance so the bikes all have issues. So I just bought a new bike and paid an extra 1800 bucks for a seven year warranty. Now a year and a half later and over 25,000 worry free miles on my Ducati Diavel V4 I'm looking forward to five more years of care free ripping it up.
This was an absolutely perfect video for me as someone about to buy my first bike
Thanks for the more longform videos.
I got my bike about 6 months ago, a Z400 2021 with 18k miles on it for 3.3k. I asked around and people told me it was a steal! And I still think it was. But I'm the third owner, and the second owner didn't tell me a bunch of stuff that I wasn't aware of at the time as a new buyer.
-Chain/Sprocket needed to be replaced. AT the shop that was $250, doing it myself would've required tools and space I didn't have, but still 250
-Valve adjustment was coming up, that's $800 at my shop.
-Tires were at about half-life, I'm gonna need to spend about $500 on some new road 6's
-2 oil changes, $80 each with full synthetic and /
So I put in a bout 2 grand to put the bike back on a proper maintenance schedule. Not sure if I got scammed or if that was natural.
but dammit I love my Z400 ... after I'm done with her, if ever, I don't know if I'm even going to be able to sell her for the cost of the maintenance I did.
Not to shit on your party or anything, I just kinda wanna brag about my deal as well. I got a 2021 Ninja 400 with 1.6k miles on it for 3.5k. There’s scratch on the exhaust and a little bit of paint that had been rubbed off from on the rear fender from the guy strapping stuff down on the rear seat, but nothing that can be seen unless your face is literally right up against the rear fender.
@@thecoochiecrusader2185 nah bro go ahead .. grats ont he bike! 3.5k for a 1.6k mile bike?? THE DUDE JUST HANDED IT TO YOU!! You wont need to worry about maintenance like I have for a very, very long time. That's .. basically a new bike. Grats dude.
Wow bro, I never knew much about bikes until today, thanks a lot!
I bought my Kawasaki ZX11R for $1900. Bike was overheating a lot, but the seller said it wouldn’t. I just bleed the coolant and it was perfect haha
Good post, worthwhile knowledge being shared here (despite the haircut 😂). Thank you.
Always great videos and information. If I ever buy a used GSX-R I want Spunky with me!
thankfully in the UK your vehicle gets tested every year by the government, and they mark down the mileage
I picked up my 2015 cbr1000 last year for 6500$ with 7k miles, the facebook ads in this video are nuts. ive put 6k miles on it so far and havent had any issues.
Dude, you're an awesome teacher
I used to own a yellow 05 gsxr 1000 and currently have a red 06 gsxr 1000. This video is just making me want to go ride.
Excellent words of advice and you‘re doing an amazing job sir.
As a buyer, expect to become a detective and proffessional about the chosen motorcycle.
Check out peoples reaction and Body language when asking questions, do they Look away when answering etc ?
Part of my work as a motorcycle scout (and ex-motorcycle mechanic) buying bikes for a shop is knowing the future costs involved, get to know these in advance. Have always knocked the prices down with the tyres! It’s not the tread depth but the age.
I ALWAYS have a Choice of at least 3 bikes in an area where I‘ve made viewing appointments, should the seller not agree to my offer I move on. I need to return back to the shop with 2 bikes in the van to have made the journey worthwhile. If I can‘t make an appointment I always inform the seller also.
Admittedly, buying private is different because of the purchase being just one type of bike whereas I could be checking out Honda, Yamaha or Kawasaki within a 25Km radius in an afternoon.
Have fun studying, I‘m a subscriber as of today and,
Best greetings from Düsseldorf
Sher 🏁
Thank u for sharing I appreciate that💯 just trying to help others not get scammed gotta look at everything with these old bikes!
Absolutely love what you do. Over here in Europe, the sales figures for powerful sports bikes are on the decline in favour for an ever increasing mid-range market.
It can get real tricky buying a used super sport motorcycle. Typically those bikes get ridden super hard while rev bombing at every red light, bridge and road rage. If you know what to look & listen for you can find some really sweet deals but if you're not careful you'll get a lemon.
I had a k7 750, can’t believe I sold it. They’ve held their value so well.
Bro I’ve only ever seen you on instagram and you are vary different over here lmao, good video man!
Really good tips! Thanks
Thanks man lot of good information
I never buy used bikes, I'd rather save up more and finance more than deal with the hassle. I don't trust people at all. Learned my lesson with cars a long time ago, ever since I only bought new and slept fine. Let's just say that if I had the option of buying a 10k 1000cc or 10k for a new underpowered smaller cc bike, I'd get the smaller CC.
Deprecation, Interest, Modifications, Maintenance, on top of buying it at the highest price the car or bike will ever be you end up losing a lot…in my opinion you shouldn’t finance…Invest in a lift, tools, and share it online now it’s an asset!
@@SpunkyBoyy I don't really consider a 10k new bike expensive, cars on the other hand, yes since they're 60k+ The problem with trying to save money by buying a used sports bike is that in case anything serious fails the added costs to repair it to new condition will be over whatever the new bike would have been, and you still have a used bike. Like I said, to each their own, I'd never personally buy a used sportsbike. And I don't know about the US but in Europe used bikes hold their value way too high. People over here still want 13k for a R6 from 2017 with 15k miles.
I've bought used since around 2006 but the sellers are a bit odd these days. All the bikes I've bought belong to guys who already own between 6 to 30 motorcycles and are thinning the herd. My last bike that I bought was a XSR900 that had 550 miles on it after 2 years; the oil hadn't even been changed.
@@langhamp8912 Two years ago I wanted to get a 2008 R6 or a 07/08 GSXR 750. I couldn't find a single bike in good condition and without shady things on either the bike or the sellers. Gave up and bought a new bike. Now I'm saving for the second bike, new again, meanwhile some guys I know still can't make their bikes run right and they're endless money pits, the best part of buying new is that you know the bike was never abused and you'll know everything about it and the service history and how you rode it. Not saying used bikes can't be good but I couldn't find a single one.
I can’t deny that…especially when it comes to older bikes…It’s extremely hard to find one in good condition, and finding a reasonable seller is almost impossible with older crotch rockets. I literally thought I was never getting this bike because of everything u just mentioned. You have to deal with alot of bs with used bikes, but u can still find them if ur patient..if u have to have it tomorrow you’ll most likely get scammed!
Also, be aware of online scams. I got scammed through a yammie noob contest.
A legit contest or are you referring to their "giveaway" that is actually just a lottery?
@@MrThejunkman its more of a raffle
@@fire-ue3du a raffle where you spend more to get more opportunities to win -like a lottery
“No Time Wasters”. I always wonder how they sell anything with that arrogant attitude. It’s almost as if they want you to feel guilty if you don’t choose to buy their exalted crap, and that it’s not as though they consider it’s your time they’re wasting. Never ever called up one of those, i never will either. Also the “much loved blah blah ..”, or “genuine reason for sale” (it’s a death trap pile of crap) I don’t care, they just want your money.
Too late, I already bought a bike without noticing 100% of the defects 💀
What if the bike is from a dealer? Does the checklist change or stay the same for buying from them?
Yes, it's the same. Dealers use the same tactics. I had a dealer list as a clean title, but the bike was salvage and came with a warranty waver, state the bike was as is, they warmed it before had, and the bike ended up having a crack in the clutch case, and on this model its an expensive part, thats hard to find, thats why they didnt replace it, someone put jb welded over it, n they let me ride the thing about 10miles, i could have died from oil getting on my tire and loosing traction
I bought an '03 R1 with 8K miles on it... was ripping it before realising it was on it's factory tyres :L
Did the same buying my 1st bike, 2011 ninja 250r, tires never changed rotted out, but was new so didnt notice, let a friend ride it who was more of a risk taker and layed it down,
You are spot on stock is best
I gotta be the hater again. You know what this guy should’ve told you to do first when you look at a bike the first thing you should be doing. Is Vin check have the seller send you the VIN number check if it’s stolen check if it’s been in an accident.
If the frame is good and it rides without shitting itself all mechanical fixes will be cheap
Great advice 👍🏾
Never understood devaluing because of mileage. If well maintained, it’s not much of an issue.
I wish I saw this video before I purchased my first used bike!
2005 R6 for $2500 out the door, inly 13k miles, it was sick, but got Stolen:(
Great informative video 🎉
OMG, motorcycle sellers are the worst. And I'm a lot less picky than him about cosmetics. Mileage, age, bald tires, missing title... I do care about.
Guys just totally destroy bikes and don't know how to take care of them.
Literally, all you have to do is drive slower, expand your follow distance, and park it in the garage when you're not riding it. Change the the fluids and wear items... and 20 years from now your bike should look pretty much like it did off the factory floor. But no... some guys break out the hacksaw right off the bat and start to "bob" it... cut the exhaust off, cut fenders in two... and I'm like... are you a monk ey?
I bought a used bike off FB last week, he said okay, marked the ad as sold. I got the trailer ready, built a ramp to load the bike onto the trailer, took the money out the bank, all over the Thanksgiving weekend, and messaged the guy Ok, any time you're ready, shoot me a time and date, your phone number, and address, and I'll come get the bike. Never heard from him again. So beware people just flat out wasting your time.
Any bike that has a polished frame is immediatley off the list.
What’s the best way to buy a used bike if your a new rider and don’t know much about bikes via experience?? Like how could I find someone that knows what to look for on a used bike??
Try a family member or friend that knows bikes, or if possible pay for a bike shop to do an inspection or even a mobile motorcycle mechanic , yes it can cost money for this but if you buy a bad bike I will cost you a lot more, especially if something goes bad while riding that can lead to crash , personal experience on that
@ ok ok good looks
I hope you got a deal for this man!
GSXR’s are disposable bikes. 20 years old treat it like a Bic lighter and throw it away.
Your comment is disposable
people are always trying to get more money for something they wanted to overuse. Unless they repaired to factory form or substantially made it superior than oem(9/10 times it has been made worse) but goos guide. I bought a project bike for my first bike. 80s naked bike. 500 bucks. probably could have gotten more, but woldnt have just been standard headaches.
relatively amount of repairs. hopefully old bike tires a lil cheaper 😂😂. average price 2500. for 500 but about 10steps to finish. Nice for winter. 😊
That’s all great advice. I’ve been riding and buying for over 40 years. You also have to realize going to your point, if you can’t fix it yourself, most dealers won’t touch a bike that’s more than 10 years old.
Point being if you have a bike or if you’re looking at buying a bike that’s more than 10 years old, you better know how to fix it yourself because the dealer won’t touch it
Really? what about independent shops? I'm a car/truck/machine mechanic, but am a little intimidated to eventually mess with my bike other than basic maintenance.
That s why I only buy basket cases ,😅
An tips? The other day my 07 600 gsxr had trouble cold starting, had to hold the revs for a bit or it would die and it sounded like it was missing.(It started ok but after 20 seconds the high idle shut off and then it couldn't keep it idling). And I had to rev it higher than the high idle had it idling originally for the first 20 seconds to keep it going. After a few min it was fine and idling. Next day no issues. Could this be the fuel reg thing he's talking about in this video? Thanks
if you "right" me one more time, im not buying a gixxer..
U sound like more of a Yamaha guy haha
@@SpunkyBoyy No sir. Picked up my gen 3 busa 6 months ago.
@@SpunkyBoyy not a fan of how yammys ride. dont get the hype. zuke nation all day.
@@High_Octanethat’s all I needed to hear ur alright with me✅
$7k? The bike is old & was even kinda lack luster back in the day. Why are these bikes sought after?
these bikes were known to have the best engines in the game back in the day. specifically the 05 gsxr 1000. what do you mean lack luster back in the day?
@@QelaiHe doesn't know bikes at all
It’s funny, a few months ago I traded my 06 gsxr 1000 for a 08 1000 had a bunch of stuff done to it with 11k miles, well long story short I traded with 1500$ on my end well after 3 damn weeks had a valve drop and was 5600$ to fix 🤦♂️ and it all happened becusee whoever worked on the bike left a broken oil
Pump that wasn’t even spinning so eventually it just wasn’t emough oil and it slapped the spark plug, def wish I saw this before doing the trade 😂
Spunky Boy can you please do a valve clearance video on the K6 GSXR
dude is fr a gixxer brah
The bang for ur buck factor is hard to beat with gixxers
Spunky Boy. Patriots 💪💯
TB12 all day baby💪🏻
two gsxr 1000 k5 one has 25.000 miles the other has 50,000 miles both look mint both same price which one do you buy ? the one with 25,000 miles were all done thrashed to death on a race track the other with 50,000 just had easy life no race tracks (good to no the type of life the bike has had rather than just looking at the mileage)
So just buy new and you don’t need to worry about Getting Screwed by someone trying to make a quick buck
And if less people buy used those prices will go down
This would have been a great video to have before I bought my k5 😒
All facts!!!
You sound like my guy from poor man's podcast. He makes red pill content you're like a red Piller for bikes😂 lol
Stop nit picking. All these bikes are solid. Never pay asking price tho
I’m not saying you’re wrong AT ALL, but EXTREMELY NIT PICKY BRO. A scratch on the swing arm doesn’t mean shit. It’s a scratch. Could be from 100 things.
all of that information is a bargaining tool dude. use it to bring the price down and ask them more questions so it feels justified knockin money off it
If someone brings up a scratch i laugh so hard then yeah u should buy new nigga. Get off the lawn
If it’s not a big deal then why don’t they show it on the ad? Cause they are trying to pull one over on u…That dude with the white Gsxr was full of sh*t. If ur up front about everything that’s different than trying to hide it and not factoring it into the price. Anytime u see DEEP scratches in the swing arm or forks that bike was down hard
@@SpunkyBoyy I don’t see how you can pull one over on someone about a scratch on a swing arm tho. With an almost 20 year old bike, I’d accept some tiny scratches are gonna be there. I just don’t feel like it’s ill intended to not highlight a tiny scratch.
It may be nit picky but when they won't show the little things that are wrong with the bike it makes you wonder what else they're hiding and hoping you don't notice
high performance sport bikes engines rarelly last 50k miles
WE HAVE THE SAME BIKE
Thanks spunk
Of course!
the swing arm is not $2k lmao more like 200$ lmao!
200 bucks?! Lol maybe for a beat one on eBay..if ur gonna do that u might as well just repaint it at that point….for a OEM swing that is NEW it’s over $2200
Where you getting tires for 400 bucks. I can’t touch tires on my bike for that
Well, I buy and sell bikes so I don’t wanna be a hater, but there’s a few things to add so of course the mileage and the condition are going to be Key how about what year is the bike or even what size of 1000 is worth more than a 600 but all bikes are different with Ducati‘s does most service is every 7000 miles for the older Bikes so if a bike has 6000 miles on it and it’s cheap it’s probably due for Desmo service or at 13,000 miles. Sometimes people tell you if it’s due sometimes they don’t and some people don’t know about Ducati‘s. They think they’re getting a deal and then demo service is 1800 depending on shop towels used set also BMW S1K there are certain years to get and there are certain years not to get another thing how clean a bike is doesn’t always matter because if somebody has Chinese fairings on their bike, why don’t they have the OEM fairings and mileage sometimes can be the worst indicator if it’s a good bike if you buy a 2003 bike and it only has 2000 miles on it and it has Chinese fairings and it’s super clean. You got a bike that’s 20 years old with only 2000 miles on it unless it’s absolutely mint condition original everything and there’s a good story behind it. Somebody probably reboot the front end and through a dashboard on a gauges odometer sometimes if a bike’s mileage is way too low and if somebody doesn’t have a title and they call it a track bike they might be stealing bikes and putting two bikes together. A lot of people try to find clean vent frames or low mileage odometers so like everyone out there watching this video you have to rely on the integrity of the person you’re buying it from. That’s why you don’t go to shit hole ghetto hood rat areas to buy a bike and you wanna match the title to the guy selling it to you with his identification I know it sounds stupid, but you wanna make sure they’re not title jumping.
Long story short, if you aren't very familiar with bikes, and very familiar with the bike you're looking at, it's a gamble..long winded video to say those things.
I just buy new
That’s a scam too lol
👀👍👍
ur a goat
Brother your hair scam.
I’ve sold many many bikes…I have never and will never deal with a buyer like you…I posted what pics I had and sold most bikes in 2-3 days, some with multiple showings set up for the same day. I will not jump through hoops for a buyer, cuz there is always another around the corner.
Most don’t cause I get the truth out of them haha
I appreciate the tips, but guys like you are the worst to deal with when selling a bike, nothing wrong with a salvaged bike or a wrecked bike thats been restored often theyre in better conditiion at the end of the day
high mileage bikes are fine I've owned a few and they're nothing like cars with high mileage
It’s wild to me when I’ve been looking at tons of sport bikes from 2005-2010 on marketplace because they’re generally the ones in my price range, seemingly every single one of them listed is between 20k-23k miles. Always makes me wonder how every single bike is within that range. It’s to the point where if I see a 07 listed with 40k miles I’ll be far more likely to buy that one because at least I know they probably aren’t lying about the mileage on it