Actually it’s gonna be underestimation then, everyone should play considering position, otherwise always taking the risk and “playing the player” instead, they may run into some painful surprises like Aronian did or Yakuboev, in both cases clearly underestimating their much weaker opponents and getting a clearly lost positions. Especially now, when there is much knowledge and engine preparation, some 2100 or even 1800s can be a very tough opponents
Agreed, there's so many Tal positions engines evaluate as worse that he won due to complexity. There should be a separate evaluation if most of the normal responses are losing and the opponent has to find an obscure "only move". Like that famous olympiad "Misha impossible" game vs Hans.
@@88mphDrBrowntbf thats what the human commentators are for. Chess engines can evaluate chess, not human psychology, so its impossible for an engine to tell how "obvious" a move is. But there can be a letter next to the number that represents how wide or narrow the path to victory is. For ex: "A" means almost any move maintains advantage, "B" means 3 or less, "C" means only 1 move. Whether that 1 move is taking the free queen that a 100 rated player is "attacking" your bishop with or a brilliant defensive combination, its all equally "easy" to the engine, but that letter system can give human a hint at least. It would remove the impression that every game where there are massive swings in the eval bar are played by patzers
@wallysullivan9315 I strongly suspect they have some sort of "normal/human" move analysis algorithm in their anti cheating software. I like that letter grade idea, did you just come up with that or does it already exist?
#Suggestion I have a golden recommendation for you. IM Alice Lee vs WIM Jan Jodilyn Fronda on round 2 of the Olympiad. Truly a beautiful attacking game with a really nice knight sacrifice to finish it off I don't know if you've covered her before, but Alice Lee is a very bright talent at the forefront of the next generation of strong female GMs
Agads observation about weaker players was made by Petrosian years ago. He might not even have been the first to make it. Top players simply play at top level all the time. Thats why they are the best. The rest of us can play a few moves brilliantly and then we lose the thread of the position.
A good reason for such a sacrifice is perhaps arjun thought the game was headed for a potential draw he thought his opponent might go for. That bishop captures pawn pretty much eliminates the possibility of a draw and will give him a chance to prove that being higher rated means he will prevail over the course of the next 40 moves.
There are many kinds of sacrifices. Some bring clear compensation right away. Others bring compensation in theory such as weak color complex, bad structure. A real sacrifice means compensation is unclear. The Master just " feels " it was right....often the compensation appears in the endgame.
@dannymeslier6658 Yes, but Arjun has said again and again in his interviews that against lower rated opponents, he tries to imbalance the position as quickly as possible to take his opponent out of prep. He is confident that he can win an unbalanced position against sub 2500 opponents. He wouldn't try this with 2600 and above rated opponents.
@@blipblop5757 I see, right. In this particular case, though, I think he could have lost, though...There really was very little compensation for the bishop.
#suggestion Olypiad Round 2, Ivanchuk played a really interesting game against Andres Vila from Uraguay. Sacrifices, and not perfect engine play, but a great game!
Right it does seem white missed an opportunity by not playing Nf4 so Bf1 could defend pawn c4 but ok have to finish watching yes it does seem the inactivity from Jacques Elbilia might’ve left him in a bit of Rusty state I mean that’s many years of not having played classical Chess Arjun is definitely that confident player Bishop sack no problem but I think he caught a break his opponent did not respond correctly Great Game tho Thanks a lot Agadmator
Jacques ssemed to see ghosts after the 'speculative' (to be kind) sacrifice. I wonder how many players, regardless of strength, would have played Rxa6?
Yes, pretty much every major country is participating. You can check the games at FIDE official website for the olympiad. Ghana is currently 137th in the standings.
Yeah but when the Whole team will think like that about each other sometimes the risks can go all wrong at the same time So they also play mindful chess
White just played worse than black(versus a blunder).Arjun is strong but he played abnormally weak,bljndered and was lucky ooponent was so much weaker.
@@shrinivas105 You dumb? He plays like this against GMs as well. Even Magnus commented on his style of play and said it was like every game Arjun plays it's like he's trying to absolutely bulldoze.
He has been playing a lot of open tournaments in the last 2 years. He is used to playing dubious moves to pressure and win against lower rated opponents. During the SCC, even Magnus called him a madman who plays risky moves in equal positions to force a win.
"When you are the stronger player, play the player. When you're the weaker player, play the position"
-Sun Tzu
Actually it’s gonna be underestimation then, everyone should play considering position, otherwise always taking the risk and “playing the player” instead, they may run into some painful surprises like Aronian did or Yakuboev, in both cases clearly underestimating their much weaker opponents and getting a clearly lost positions. Especially now, when there is much knowledge and engine preparation, some 2100 or even 1800s can be a very tough opponents
Kasparov's quote still applies as much as ever. It is irrelevant what the "engine says" The better player is better.
Agreed, there's so many Tal positions engines evaluate as worse that he won due to complexity. There should be a separate evaluation if most of the normal responses are losing and the opponent has to find an obscure "only move".
Like that famous olympiad "Misha impossible" game vs Hans.
@@88mphDrBrowntbf thats what the human commentators are for. Chess engines can evaluate chess, not human psychology, so its impossible for an engine to tell how "obvious" a move is. But there can be a letter next to the number that represents how wide or narrow the path to victory is. For ex: "A" means almost any move maintains advantage, "B" means 3 or less, "C" means only 1 move. Whether that 1 move is taking the free queen that a 100 rated player is "attacking" your bishop with or a brilliant defensive combination, its all equally "easy" to the engine, but that letter system can give human a hint at least. It would remove the impression that every game where there are massive swings in the eval bar are played by patzers
@wallysullivan9315 I strongly suspect they have some sort of "normal/human" move analysis algorithm in their anti cheating software. I like that letter grade idea, did you just come up with that or does it already exist?
first of all, machines are lire. Second thing, there is beauty in imperfection. Finally, I don't give a **** what engine says.
@@88mphDrBrownno I just came up with it, never seen it before, your comment kind of got me thinking
Title: A real sacrifice
Agad: Don't know why that sacrifice
#Suggestion I have a golden recommendation for you. IM Alice Lee vs WIM Jan Jodilyn Fronda on round 2 of the Olympiad. Truly a beautiful attacking game with a really nice knight sacrifice to finish it off
I don't know if you've covered her before, but Alice Lee is a very bright talent at the forefront of the next generation of strong female GMs
45 moves later….”soo that’s what Arjun had in mind” 😳🤨
"Sort of".
"Something, something..."
Agads observation about weaker players was made by Petrosian years ago. He might not even have been the first to make it.
Top players simply play at top level all the time. Thats why they are the best. The rest of us can play a few moves brilliantly and then we lose the thread of the position.
I'm a Moroccan Agadmator subscriber as well
Hi. I am Indian❤
Why does he have a French name?
@@dannymeslier6658 Why does Fabi have an italian name and playing for USA
Also Levon aronian @@AM_-wg1hj
@@AM_-wg1hj cos he was born Italian haha
Thanks!
Interesting narration from yourself as always 😊
A good reason for such a sacrifice is perhaps arjun thought the game was headed for a potential draw he thought his opponent might go for. That bishop captures pawn pretty much eliminates the possibility of a draw and will give him a chance to prove that being higher rated means he will prevail over the course of the next 40 moves.
There are many kinds of sacrifices.
Some bring clear compensation right away.
Others bring compensation in theory such as weak color complex, bad structure.
A real sacrifice means compensation is unclear.
The Master just " feels " it was right....often the compensation appears in the endgame.
Alright but this one just wasn't good.
@dannymeslier6658 Yes, but Arjun has said again and again in his interviews that against lower rated opponents, he tries to imbalance the position as quickly as possible to take his opponent out of prep. He is confident that he can win an unbalanced position against sub 2500 opponents. He wouldn't try this with 2600 and above rated opponents.
@@dannymeslier6658 Wasn't good against engines. But against lower rated human opponents it's good enough.
@@blipblop5757 I see, right. In this particular case, though, I think he could have lost, though...There really was very little compensation for the bishop.
@@arya8411 Objectively it wasn't good enough against Jacques either. But that's where psychology comes in and plays a big part.
"Arjun would have found a way, as strong players usually do. But sometimes they don't, and that's why we enjoy chess coverage"
#suggestion
Olypiad Round 2, Ivanchuk played a really interesting game against Andres Vila from Uraguay. Sacrifices, and not perfect engine play, but a great game!
It’s pleasure for eyes to see board view from winning point not as an opponent!
#Suggestion Kindly cover Australia's GM bobby cheng game from this tournament round 1. He lost to a very lower rated Player.
#suggestion - b4 in the board (Germany GM Bluebaum, Matthias 2640) (vs) (Philippines IM Bersamina, Paulo 2425)
Right it does seem white missed an opportunity by not playing Nf4 so Bf1 could defend pawn c4 but ok have to finish watching yes it does seem the inactivity from Jacques Elbilia might’ve left him in a bit of Rusty state I mean that’s many years of not having played classical Chess Arjun is definitely that confident player Bishop sack no problem but I think he caught a break his opponent did not respond correctly Great Game tho Thanks a lot Agadmator
#suggestion Adham Fawzy vs Nodirbek Abdusattorov
A bit outclassed in this match, Jacques, Better luck in the next one.
Microphone is scratching at around 05:03. Wanted to let you know if you didnt notice :)
Hmmm, not on my speakers. Will try via headphones
Yea it’s squeaking throughout the video! Much love for the content regardless, have a great evening!
Overwhelming pressure.
Jacques ssemed to see ghosts after the 'speculative' (to be kind) sacrifice. I wonder how many players, regardless of strength, would have played Rxa6?
Yeah, the sacrifice was just unsound.
I thought its erigaisi
5:22 cut or a stroke? :O
#suggestion maybe you can put the respective country flags above and under each players names for the olympiads
Agadmator chess, Is Ghana participating in the Olympiad
Yes, pretty much every major country is participating. You can check the games at FIDE official website for the olympiad. Ghana is currently 137th in the standings.
makes sense to take risks when your team mates will likely won their games
Yeah but when the Whole team will think like that about each other sometimes the risks can go all wrong at the same time
So they also play mindful chess
there was a rook sacrifice in korea and belgium matchup board#2
Maybe we should put double exclam on that Bxb4
"The move that is engine approved" yes, my tendency to not push pawns too far finally makes me comparable to an engine
Also please do gukesh round 2 match
🇮🇳love you sir ❤️ 😘
Agad quoting James Bond 🔫
Please cover some of women's game too
White just played worse than black(versus a blunder).Arjun is strong but he played abnormally weak,bljndered and was lucky ooponent was so much weaker.
He would never take such risks with GMs...
@@shrinivas105 You dumb? He plays like this against GMs as well. Even Magnus commented on his style of play and said it was like every game Arjun plays it's like he's trying to absolutely bulldoze.
He has been playing a lot of open tournaments in the last 2 years. He is used to playing dubious moves to pressure and win against lower rated opponents. During the SCC, even Magnus called him a madman who plays risky moves in equal positions to force a win.
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Is his name really " ,Jacques "? Does his name begin with a comma or is this a typo?
Board 3
You know what Magnus said about Arjun Erigaisi? 😂
Misspelled Arjuns last name Antonio.....
Please analysis vidit gujarati match in round 2
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I am a simple man. I see Arjun, I click.
Better player is always lucky.
gg
Misspelt Erigaisi in the title
Arjun is a monster
Jacques E. took 12 years break to beat Arjun.
Hi Y'all!
Round 2 Hari Krishna's game for suggestion
Magnus Carlsen said Arjun is a Madman ......
Bum
Interesting to see weaker players strategies to try and throw the top guys off their games
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I am a very early fk my luck
Agadmator please pin me
Garv shudra yahan, Jai shree ram, bhaarat mata ki jai
You misspelled Rudolf Spielmann's name. You have 1.32 million subscribers. You can afford an editor.
Are you sure there wasn't a better game?
Watching a guy that hasn't played for a decade lose (and a boring game) isn't exciting at all.
#Suggestion Kindly cover Australia's GM bobby cheng game from this tournament round 1. He lost to a very lower rated Player.
Australia is Ass even after using immigrants