Thank you so very much, paulmagicflute! This is absolutely lovely stuff. Became a fan of PL footie in about 2008. Arsenal since 2010. Still a babe in the woods. Took a trip over there with a dear friend in 2011 and saw 8 games over three weeks in Wales, England and Scotland (Cardiff, London, Manchester and near West Lothian). Time of my life! I’ve read and studied all I have been able to get my hands on and have thoroughly enjoyed the journey. Thank you for adding to my library. How anyone can downvote these generous postings is beyond me. Cheers from Colorado!!!
Barry Davies was such a great commentator. Doesnt feel the need to chat or banter over what's happening, just says the names of the player in posession and lets the action speak for itself. The best
Worthington, Marsh , Hudson ,Bowls , ..all those friggin players that Revie Effed in the amount of caps they should have had for Argentina 78....Macdonald , Thomas, Chivers and Channon too....
I guess Cloughie had the last laugh: took Forest from obscurity to League champions and to European Cups, briefly eclipsing Liverpool's dominance. I'd love to know why Clough disliked Revie, in the previous episode Bob Stokoe accused Revie of trying to bribe him when he was at Bury. Great era, great show.
I think you answered your own question there - Clough obviously knew Revie was bent and that, along with Leeds' leg-breaking style (Clough's playing career was cut short by a serious injury and I'm sure that affected his view) was easily enough to make the future Forest manager despise him.
'Everton was the final straw for Brian Clough'..Well if you look up the records, Clough had already been sacked before Leeds loss to Everton. He was sacked after Leeds 1 all draw at home to Luton Town. He was sacked on September 12th, 1974.
Emlyn Hughes is absolutely unbearable! It’s painful listening to him... the guy just speaks a constant stream of shite! I really hope for his wife’s sake, she was deaf.
Also, I think on the probabilties, Revie did offer bribes and was corrupt. Bob Stokoe said it hundreds of times and Revie never sued him, Frank Mclintock has made similar allegations in his autobiography, but who is to say Hughes didn't do what Smith alleged. This sort of thing was probably rife in soccer at the time. Who is to say that the sainted Matt Busby and Bill Shankly didn't offer bribes?
9:26 'Look at his face... JUST LOOK AT HIS FACE!!!' I am looking at his face - he's smiling just after scoring a goal... Am I missing something here?...
Paul, Emlyn Hughes' comments about Don Revie trying to get extra money for the England players at a time when players were not as well paid seem harsh. He was a manager trying to look after his players-and remember those players were hardly pulling up trees for England at this time.
Emlyn Hughes is saying that Revie was money ruled, and maybe he was, but according to Tommy Smith's 2008 autobiography, Hughes himself wasn't whiter than white either, as he allegedly was going to offer Arsenal players £50 each to throw their title deciding match with Liverpool in May 1972. Smith was disgusted at the time. Pots and kettles come to mind.
Pun about Revie being money ruled and allegedly throwing Bribes to Bob Stokoe and Frank McLintock? or Emlyn Hughes allegedly considering throwing bribes to Arsenal players?
According to Tommy Smith in 2008 Hughes told him that in May 1972, several Arsenal players were willing to throw the game for £50 a man... so doesn't it make his claims about Revie look hypocritical if Smith is telling the truth?
Smith said that he tried to get him to bribe the Arsenal players in the title deciding match in May 1972. Smith wasn't sure whether Hughes wanted to fix the match or set Smith up, but Smith refused to do it....
That smug leeds director, wonder how smug he remained during the wilderness, and wonder if he lived to see the title win in 91 while Clough won a title and 2 european cups with Forest who he left them for.
Actually it's hard to say who was more reviled, Clough or Revie. Clough had been successively chucked from Derby and Brighton, so nobody was really on his side at the time. And Revie didn't exactly set the world on fire at the England job. Though at least he got picked for it - more than could be said for old Big 'Ead.
@@JohnSmith-el2nj The only reason Clough wasn't appointed England manager at any point was because the clueless duffers at the Football Association felt very threatened by Clough's ability. Crazy old fools.
Hughes being Liverpool did obviously not like Revie being ex-Leeds manager due to the 2 clubs rivalry at the time. Nice to be reminded of the class of Colin Bell with his 2 goals against Czechoslovakia in Nov 74.
WITHOUT A DOUBT THE BEST MANAGER ENGLAND NEVER HAD, UNFORTUNATELY 💯%RESPECT'💚 2 Him 4 Trying 2 Play Football On The Ground When It Wasn't Very Fashionable 👌
Dutch Van Helsing do you know the details behind that? The guy was in a bad way, struggling to live and his benefit had been stopped. He was desperate for money and a newspaper exploited him. Obviously Leeds players weren’t gonna be happy with him, were they? Same paper also approached another ex player Mike O’Grady... told him they were gonna run with the story anyway and did he want money to put his name to it - he obviously declined. It’s bullshit - don’t believe everything you read.
Well, I don't think they got on anyway, due to a clash of personalities. Smith said Hughes was the only member of the Liverpool squad he never got on with but he respected him as a player. However what increased the hatred probably was in 1973 when Smith was replaced as captain by Hughes, and perhaps, if it did occur, this incident of Hughes trying to brible opposition players.
Thank you so very much, paulmagicflute! This is absolutely lovely stuff. Became a fan of PL footie in about 2008. Arsenal since 2010. Still a babe in the woods.
Took a trip over there with a dear friend in 2011 and saw 8 games over three weeks in Wales, England and Scotland (Cardiff, London, Manchester and near West Lothian). Time of my life!
I’ve read and studied all I have been able to get my hands on and have thoroughly enjoyed the journey. Thank you for adding to my library.
How anyone can downvote these generous postings is beyond me.
Cheers from Colorado!!!
Barry Davies was such a great commentator. Doesnt feel the need to chat or banter over what's happening, just says the names of the player in posession and lets the action speak for itself. The best
Agreed. Enjoyed listening to him more than any other commentator, especially the ones who think that OTT shouting is required to show "passion"
Worthington, Marsh , Hudson ,Bowls , ..all those friggin players that Revie Effed in the amount of caps they should have had for Argentina 78....Macdonald , Thomas, Chivers and Channon too....
I guess Cloughie had the last laugh: took Forest from obscurity to League champions and to European Cups, briefly eclipsing Liverpool's dominance. I'd love to know why Clough disliked Revie, in the previous episode Bob Stokoe accused Revie of trying to bribe him when he was at Bury. Great era, great show.
I think you answered your own question there - Clough obviously knew Revie was bent and that, along with Leeds' leg-breaking style (Clough's playing career was cut short by a serious injury and I'm sure that affected his view) was easily enough to make the future Forest manager despise him.
@@tonybates7870and clough wanted the england job at the time😃😃
02:37 Heh, Bremner's such a straight - faced liar.
'Everton was the final straw for Brian Clough'..Well if you look up the records, Clough had already been sacked before Leeds loss to Everton. He was sacked after Leeds 1 all draw at home to Luton Town. He was sacked on September 12th, 1974.
Colin Bell was such a good player.
barry davies commentary just look at his face absolutley class, one of many of his. not just good commentary best era of football ever maybe??
Emlyn Hughes is absolutely unbearable! It’s painful listening to him... the guy just speaks a constant stream of shite! I really hope for his wife’s sake, she was deaf.
cloughie couldn't say to frost the truth....revie was trying to bribe managers and players to loose to him...bob stokoe and wolves team examples
Also, I think on the probabilties, Revie did offer bribes and was corrupt. Bob Stokoe said it hundreds of times and Revie never sued him, Frank Mclintock has made similar allegations in his autobiography, but who is to say Hughes didn't do what Smith alleged. This sort of thing was probably rife in soccer at the time. Who is to say that the sainted Matt Busby and Bill Shankly didn't offer bribes?
I don't trust bremners side of things
Certainly my favourite piece of commentary of all time, and certainly the best era of English league football, in my opinion.
9:26 'Look at his face... JUST LOOK AT HIS FACE!!!'
I am looking at his face - he's smiling just after scoring a goal...
Am I missing something here?...
He's just scored against his old club, that's why.
@@Trev359 A footballer smiling after scoring a goal...
Wow, how unprecedented!!!
Where are Man utd? Lol
Took a year off lol
i thought barry davis was gonna yodel at the end there
What is strange is that Tommy Smith made his allegations in 2008, and Emlyn Hughes died in 2004. Why didn't this get revealed before 2008?
....i would love Michael Sheen doing Frost talking to Cloughie.....he played both
Paul,
Emlyn Hughes' comments about Don Revie trying to get extra money for the England players at a time when players were not as well paid seem harsh. He was a manager trying to look after his players-and remember those players were hardly pulling up trees for England at this time.
Interesting we don't see the famous Yorkshire Special spat between Clough and Revie. I guess cos this is a BBC programme so can't show itv stuff.
"Look at his face...just look at hERs face" haha classic
Everyone saying we need oil money to be above liverpool in the leauge..REALLY??🤣😅
Don Revie...footballing CHEAT ! That why David.
Emlyn Hughes is saying that Revie was money ruled, and maybe he was, but according to Tommy Smith's 2008 autobiography, Hughes himself wasn't whiter than white either, as he allegedly was going to offer Arsenal players £50 each to throw their title deciding match with Liverpool in May 1972. Smith was disgusted at the time. Pots and kettles come to mind.
Bobby Robson v Brian Clough should have been a rivalry that never really start... or did it?
Pun about Revie being money ruled and allegedly throwing Bribes to Bob Stokoe and Frank McLintock? or Emlyn Hughes allegedly considering throwing bribes to Arsenal players?
Emlyn could not stand revie
Leeds finished 9 8 points behind the champions
According to Tommy Smith in 2008 Hughes told him that in May 1972, several Arsenal players were willing to throw the game for £50 a man... so doesn't it make his claims about Revie look hypocritical if Smith is telling the truth?
Watch motd 71/72 ...one of the managers said revie offered him £500 to threw a game 10 years prior (1962)
player power for a bent manager....classy
Smith said that he tried to get him to bribe the Arsenal players in the title deciding match in May 1972. Smith wasn't sure whether Hughes wanted to fix the match or set Smith up, but Smith refused to do it....
Smith and Hughes had history. Smith never forgave Hughes for replacing him as captain
4:30 'You'd pay 3 million quid to play for your country...'
Absolute bullshit.
It says more about you (and where you’re from) than it does about Emlyn Hughes
1:27-28: Everton players need to visit a dentist!!
Rievy showed his True Colors & Motivation When The (UAE) Sheckles Came by His palms
That smug leeds director, wonder how smug he remained during the wilderness, and wonder if he lived to see the title win in 91 while Clough won a title and 2 european cups with Forest who he left them for.
Actually it's hard to say who was more reviled, Clough or Revie. Clough had been successively chucked from Derby and Brighton, so nobody was really on his side at the time. And Revie didn't exactly set the world on fire at the England job. Though at least he got picked for it - more than could be said for old Big 'Ead.
@@JohnSmith-el2nj The only reason Clough wasn't appointed England manager at any point was because the clueless duffers at the Football Association felt very threatened by Clough's ability. Crazy old fools.
“A friend is someone who knows all about you and still loves you.”
Hughes being Liverpool did obviously not like Revie being ex-Leeds manager due to the 2 clubs rivalry at the time. Nice to be reminded of the class of Colin Bell with his 2 goals against Czechoslovakia in Nov 74.
ipswich city? lol!
WITHOUT A DOUBT THE BEST MANAGER ENGLAND NEVER HAD, UNFORTUNATELY
💯%RESPECT'💚 2 Him 4 Trying 2 Play Football On The Ground When It Wasn't Very Fashionable 👌
3:18 - Michael Sheen talking to Michael Sheen.
Forgot he played both men on film
The Czech team that England beat in the Euro qualifier went on to beat West Germany in the final. Penenka penalty and all!
Ask Gary Sprake about bribes//Man is not allowed at Ellend Rd
Dutch Van Helsing do you know the details behind that? The guy was in a bad way, struggling to live and his benefit had been stopped. He was desperate for money and a newspaper exploited him. Obviously Leeds players weren’t gonna be happy with him, were they? Same paper also approached another ex player Mike O’Grady... told him they were gonna run with the story anyway and did he want money to put his name to it - he obviously declined. It’s bullshit - don’t believe everything you read.
Interesting..Very interesting!!! Look at his face..Just look at his face...Classic commentary.
Read Tommy Smiths book and see who is money ruled Hughes
Well, I don't think they got on anyway, due to a clash of personalities. Smith said Hughes was the only member of the Liverpool squad he never got on with but he respected him as a player. However what increased the hatred probably was in 1973 when Smith was replaced as captain by Hughes, and perhaps, if it did occur, this incident of Hughes trying to brible opposition players.
@pupRu33 The Hustle-Van McCoy
Don Revie sounded a bit like marmite.
And Cloughie didn't?
Damned United.
thucydides Neo Funny you saying that. Michael Sheen played Frost and Clough.
Got to admire Charlie George's left footer against Real, for Derby. I think it was '75.Mark Gable
I am Liverpool fan and I hate Charlie George.
Liverpool hate everybody.thucydides Neo
these are ace cheers