If I remember right I think you can take the cap off that choke and turn the petals to get your point of aim to the point of impact. Can't remember I got in a bind one time and had to sell mine wish I had it back it was a great choke for when I was in the field I could change the pattern really fast for long or close shots while rabbit hunting
I don't know if that is the case for every one of these, but mine is permanently brazed in, so it can't be adjusted. I've put a good number of rounds through it and it has always hit right where the bead is, so something was just a bit off for this entire pattern
That C-Lect choke (I had one on a 20ga. bolt-action!) has a completely different profile internally than a modern turkey choke, it probably constricts right at the end of the choke petals inside it, which might serve to scatter buckshot compared to birdshot sized loads. The best patterning from 4-buck is to use nickel-plated shot, like Fiocchi sells.
I had a Mossberg 20 gauge bolt action back in the early seventies that had a Polly choke on it if you took it all the way off the bar was cut down in three sections and when you put it on it would either tighten it up or open it up
I just ordered 5 boxes of this ammo. It works all in my shoguns. None of them are an adjustable choke. The choke could have snagged the wad during firing. I was surprised you didn't shoot several more times to check to see if it was a fluke shot before posting this.
I pretty confident it was the choke that just didn't agree with the load. I would have taken another shot, but I explained in the video that I had a limited amount of these shells and it would be worth more to test them through other combos rather than waste more time with this one that would most likely continue to give us poor results
I remember seeing those chokes in the early 80s. I don’t remember anybody saying anything good about them. I always wondered how well you could see the bead with that big thing tapering up at a 45° angle like it was blocking your view of the bead and what you’re trying to aim at.
I've heard a lot of mixed opinions about them. Mine has always done well with your typical field loads, but I don't think its been anything impressive when it comes to buckshot. The view definitely isn't as clear as a modern setup, but it really isn't too bad all things considered. Definitely useable at least
There are good reasons why nobody makes them anymore and the entire industry switched to screw in chokes. Just get a modern barrel with screw in or fixed choke.
We may or may not try it again through this setup, but I mainly wanted to see what it would do when it was set to .680 compared to what we had previously seen from the Kicks .680 choke. Clearly it didn't work out the way we wanted
We have done a few tests with some Remington 000 buck over the last few months, but I have a couple other 000 shells to test soon, so we'll see how they do
Yeah, it may be one of several reasons. They were just kinda big, ugly, and clunky and supposedly didn't do well with steel loads. I definitely want to test that theory though
Yeah, that could just be one of the downfalls of this style choke. It's done well with field loads, but hasn't done anything super impressive with buckshot yet
That is not at all true. We have seen some amazing 40 yard buckshot patterns and it can absolutely perform great on a target at that range as well, but this combo just didn't work well together
I have a Mossberg 500 with an improved cylinder barrel and it groups #4 buckshot just fine.
We have seen much better results from these shells previously, so I think it most likely has something to do with the C-Lect choke
..I remember the old PolyChoke...
Thanks for the testing! Great info! 👍👊
Glad you enjoyed!
If I remember right I think you can take the cap off that choke and turn the petals to get your point of aim to the point of impact. Can't remember I got in a bind one time and had to sell mine wish I had it back it was a great choke for when I was in the field I could change the pattern really fast for long or close shots while rabbit hunting
I don't know if that is the case for every one of these, but mine is permanently brazed in, so it can't be adjusted. I've put a good number of rounds through it and it has always hit right where the bead is, so something was just a bit off for this entire pattern
That C-Lect choke (I had one on a 20ga. bolt-action!) has a completely different profile internally than a modern turkey choke, it probably constricts right at the end of the choke petals inside it, which might serve to scatter buckshot compared to birdshot sized loads. The best patterning from 4-buck is to use nickel-plated shot, like Fiocchi sells.
Yeah, that definitely could be a possibility
Those Poly Chokes SUCK
@@johnkoenig496 Amen, brother!
So the guy made a WHOLE video with just one shot! Talk about saving ammo.
That's the way we do a lot of our tests. I even explained the reason why I chose not to take another shot in the video
I had a Mossberg 20 gauge bolt action back in the early seventies that had a Polly choke on it if you took it all the way off the bar was cut down in three sections and when you put it on it would either tighten it up or open it up
I just ordered 5 boxes of this ammo. It works all in my shoguns. None of them are an adjustable choke. The choke could have snagged the wad during firing. I was surprised you didn't shoot several more times to check to see if it was a fluke shot before posting this.
I pretty confident it was the choke that just didn't agree with the load. I would have taken another shot, but I explained in the video that I had a limited amount of these shells and it would be worth more to test them through other combos rather than waste more time with this one that would most likely continue to give us poor results
I remember seeing those chokes in the early 80s. I don’t remember anybody saying anything good about them. I always wondered how well you could see the bead with that big thing tapering up at a 45° angle like it was blocking your view of the bead and what you’re trying to aim at.
I've heard a lot of mixed opinions about them. Mine has always done well with your typical field loads, but I don't think its been anything impressive when it comes to buckshot. The view definitely isn't as clear as a modern setup, but it really isn't too bad all things considered. Definitely useable at least
There are good reasons why nobody makes them anymore and the entire industry switched to screw in chokes. Just get a modern barrel with screw in or fixed choke.
I wonder if the choke was to tight and blew the pattern out like that. I'd have to try it again with less constriction just for kicks
We may or may not try it again through this setup, but I mainly wanted to see what it would do when it was set to .680 compared to what we had previously seen from the Kicks .680 choke. Clearly it didn't work out the way we wanted
Another great video. I’d like to see you try some 000 Buck in some IC , Mod, and Full / XFull Choke.
We have done a few tests with some Remington 000 buck over the last few months, but I have a couple other 000 shells to test soon, so we'll see how they do
I have one tht came factory on a 870 wingmaster in the early 60's . Works great on rabbit and birds wht it was designed for
Yeah, mine does just fine for those field/small game loads as well
Try a truglo Turkey choke with 0 buckshot gives a great pattern at 40 yards
I don't currently have any 0 buck, but if I find some, I'll definitely test it and see what happens
The wad may have cocked sideways on ignition !!!
I suppose it's possible, but I think it probably has more to do with the choke than anything else
Wide spread, and regular velocity 2.2 bucks per shell.
I don't think worth. 4 buck not enough for deer stopping power.
Maybe that's the reason one doesn't see them on newer guns much anymore...
Steel shot may have something to do with it.
@@timjones8184 That sound very plausible. Thx
Though couldn't they have made them longer like ordinary steel chokes? Hmm...then the price mayby
Yeah, it may be one of several reasons. They were just kinda big, ugly, and clunky and supposedly didn't do well with steel loads. I definitely want to test that theory though
@@matttyreeoutdoors I'll watch 👍
TRY MORE THEN ONE SHOT
I explained in the video why I chose not to take a second shot
It might be better for smaller bird shot. Definitely not a good idea for buckshot.
Yeah, that could just be one of the downfalls of this style choke. It's done well with field loads, but hasn't done anything super impressive with buckshot yet
All buckshot is crap past 30:yards. Know this. It is all crap . Don't ever rely on this load. 5 yards home defense it's great past that sh$tt!
We have seen much better results from this shell from other setups, this combo just didn't work out
Buckshot is crap past 20 yards. It sucks don't use it at all
That is not at all true. We have seen some amazing 40 yard buckshot patterns and it can absolutely perform great on a target at that range as well, but this combo just didn't work well together