I agree with you and I have seen the other commenters say that she married another guy shortly after this show aired. She is now 30 and has 3 kids 🙂 My 19 yr old niece told her mom (my sister) that her boyfriend was 24. Turns out, he was actually 30. This guy was extremely controlling. They were living together, he found another apartment for them to live in and didn't even tell my niece before signing the lease. Everyone that knew them well noticed how unhappy she was. One day my sister got a call from her, asking to be moved. (He was out at the time) My sister picked her up and they never looked back. I don't even think they got all of her belongings. I'm not saying that a big age difference is 100 % a bad thing. Had they both been 10 yrs older, my niece would have seen red flags.
Had this happen with my daughter. Now they’re married. Horrible marriage, she is totally controlled by her husband. She gets no money has nothing to say about anything not even her own child and hates me when i try to help her get out of the situation. I can’t help her because she refuses to acknowledge her situation. I pray for them
Thank god some people do get out and make it! When they are ready. They will be so much stronger! I hope this moment comes verry soon for you and your family ❤ sorry for my english, im from holland
Childish talking. What we have in common? Sounds like grade school. We like the color blue. We like taco's. We like to fish. He gave her stuffed animals. Oh my this is sad...
26:27 do you see the part where the mom brutally and physically abuses the girl? 80% of the time, single mothers are responsible for breaking up the family
@@cheery-hex it is a child. I don't care what any 'legal document' says. Or would you claim a 17 year old has the same mental capacity and insight as a, let's say, average 30 year old? Not counting this guy because clearly he has the mental capacity of a 17 year old as well. Some people never mature.
@@cheery-hex17 is a child. And 18 and 19 should be legally considered children as well, they're only teenagers. Kids. They're not fully developed. Not even close.
Telling her that her father loves his other children more is exponentially painful. One would need years of therapy to deal with that...and all that is affected in terms of shame, self-worth, self-perception.. self talk, interpersonal skills ....the list goes on.
"You're so mature, you're not like other girls my age. You're not like other girls YOUR age. Age is just a number. No all of my exs are the crazy ones, they're lying because they're mad they don't have me anymore. In 15 years our age gap wont matter to anyone anymore. I wanna have kids and be your husband, im gonna be the best husband ever i can't wait to parent with you. Let's choose baby names! Your parents/guardians are so controlling, they treat you like a child and we both know you're too mature for that treatment. You should just get emancipated and move in with me. Your friends only don't like me because they're jealous i chose you and no one older likes them or that they're not as mature as you are, you shouldn't be friends with people like that, shouldn't waste your time on them. Its you and me against the world" I would bet my life that every single one of those things has been said at one point in their relationship. Age is just a number, prison is just a place. You're not mature at 13-18. You're not even mature when you're 21. What you are, is dealing with a predator. They will isolate you as soon as possible.
I'm curious as well and my guess is that in this tech social age...the person simply looked up the names and saw their social media which often gives a person's status. I don't have the interest to do all of that if this is the case, but I certainly appreciate it when someone else does😊@@josephinemiller4780
I would like to see that episode. I was curious if they were still together. Luckily, if they never had a kid/kids together, they were able to easily go their own ways & not tied to each for life. She was too young. He took advantage of her. I met my daughter's father when I was 16 & he started making it public, going out more, etc & not as a "hidden couple" the day I turned 18. That's very creepy.
Going from an abusive, controlling mother into the arms of an abusive, controlling man. She needs a long period of time away from both of them. Time to grow and mature.
I'm so sorry to hear this, but at 18 she is legal aged so the parents have no legal recourse. I fear these arrangements will increase during this lonely man, stunted growth, hyper misogyny time because mature women often do not want to be bothered with these man boys. Good luck with everything wishing your daughter a healthy pregnancy and delivery and you know that often after a woman gives birth...if the father of her new precious baby becomes a headache versus a help...she will wake up.
This Mum is doing her job and trying to protect her child and seems to have very little support. When this all started I would have taken her phone, all electronic devices, packing her up with out notice and I’d be moving as far away as possible. I'd be giving my daughter a fresh start and I’d start teaching her be much wiser in her choices.
My husband is 21 years and 11 months to the day older than me but I wasnt a teen when we met. I was in my late 20s. I am now 32 an he is 54 and we have a wonderful marriage and a wonderful relationship. I believe sometimes it can work out but not with a literal child. She was way too young
@@j2323j thats your opinion which you are entitled to but stick with the old saying "if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all" Thanks for the comment though 😀
@@j2323j thats your opinion which you are entitled to but stick with the old saying "if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all" Thanks for the comment though 😀
@Abbs100nhere typically braces are applied when young tho! 🙄 Let's not split hairs please when you already know this! When are online trolls like you ever going to learn that no one will ever ever care about what you say other than to be annoyed and tell you to F off. You literally have no argument to even stand on with this yet you'd beat it to death if I kept engaging. Which I will not, so don't even bother responding. I'll just ignore you anyway.
Mom you are driving her away even though you're right to be concerned you're counter productive and abusing her . So is he. Dependence is not love. This poor girl is vulnerable and everyone's trying to invoke her to do what they want. She's the one who is crumbling. The past is done but if this baby girl is not going to grow. I'm so sad about. This. Please don't get pregnant don't become physical til your older. If it's meant to be it'll be years away. He needs to care for his real child . You need school your smart improve your self esteem and your future independence.
She hates her mom? Oh, who paid for her braces? Her clothes? Her bills? Sad to say this is puppy love. This is a train wreck to happen. Birth control? Come on. He will go to jail if they say they are. He is very immature. Maybe that's why it's working.
This is so wrong on many levels. Yes, I made a similar mistake, however, I have since matured and repented and realized it was a mistake. If this was my daughter that guy will be begging for a protective order because I will take the law into my hand and he’ll get something I can’t say on TH-cam.
The name calling is hurtful 💔 but i applaude the mother for really trying her best in the sickening situation. I would want to get my child out of this situation asap and i applaude her for doing it calmly because i would have freaked out!!
30:09: “I mean, I’m just wondering when you’re going to encounter an adult in your life that doesn’t behave like a child.” That statement deserved a round of applause-or, as a trained therapist might suggest, a moment of silence to let its weight fully sink in. I so hope this young girl eventually has an adult in her life. ❤️
@MyMcCummings I didn't get along with boys my age. When I was 18, nearly all of my best friends were in their late 20s. Some of them were gay. I had no sexual relationship with them, just a lot of good talks.
This is why fathers in the home are so important. This man never would’ve been so bold if he was afraid to get assaulted every time he talked to this girl.
This happened to me as a young girl. I was 16, he was 26. He married me 3 days after my 18th birthday. About a year into our marriage I began to see his immaturity. I realized I was the adult in the relationship. Thank God I was smart enough to say no when he wanted us to have kids. My parents were smart enough to realize that it wouldn't last. They mostly held their tongue to preserve our relationship. My parents paid for my divorce after two years of marriage.
26:10 the look shes got on her face when her BEST FRIEND is trying to look out for her is obviously her holding back tears because shes being exposed. We've all been therr honey, it just didn't happen on national TV with a pedo boyfriend 😮
I have a 15 year age gap with my husband. I find this disgusting and insane. I was 27 when we met. A full adult with a career etc. I know some people still think it's weird but it isn't predatory. It's nothing like dating a child. Just eeeew. I wanted to vomit listening to this. It's upsetting when I see people using relationships like mine to justify something cleary damaging like thus.
I agree with you! I personally feel it is a big difference meeting as actual adults unlike the couple in the video where she was 16. I think the frontal lobe being fully developed plays such a huge part in age gap relationships being successful
I dont believe the daughter when she exaggerates, "abuse" from her mother! My best friend's sister's daughter told her teachers in high school that her Mum was abusive to her. It was investigated and found to be a lie. All her 4 siblings confirmed this so did the neighbors. I witnessed her pretending to faint. I put her in the recovery position after checking vitals only to realize she was faking the whole thing. What a drama queen!!!...all the while her siblings were laughing at me....
When she said the doctor kept asking her so many times she finally gave in and accepted the birth control she was deff talking about HIM and not the Dr. so sad
Nothing will work, until she falls out of "love" with this creep. He will eventually do something she can't relate to. Or she will get pregnant and become like the other babies mommas.
It seems like his maturity level is about her age. He has an obsession with dating much younger girls. Sounds like my ex-boyfriend and he is 64 married to a 23 year old and she doesn’t even live in this country. They have been married for two years, and she still lives in the Philippines. That could actually be a Dr. Phil show.
I met my wife when she was 10..... 1 was 12. We lived normal lives.. had schiol ,.Friends, BFs everything.. then met up again at 20. We married mid 20s..
As a mother I would do all that I can to prevent this toxic relation...BUT if it got to the stage where my daughter is this dumb, I would leave them be with the understanding that if my daughter wants to come back to me because the relationship didn't work there would be a legal contract between my daughter and I on how we move on from that
This girl thinks that because she is intelligent then she is smart. But you just dont have the life experiance at that age to "get" the world and the way it works. This guy isnt smart enough or stable enough to save himself, he definitely isnt going to be able to save her. Guys like this seem to have a great ability for spotting a wounded young girl who craves love and attention and they give it to her...until they think they have her, then its off to the next one as their current relationship becomes a dumpster fire.
I'm not in favour of men having relationships with ungerage girls at all. But I never understand why people keep gasping when they hear about age gaps. I have a retiree friend who has been living with his gf for almost a decade. The age gap between them is over 25 years. He's happy. She's happy. And during the time they've been together, I've heard of dozens of same-age divorces - some messy with kids involved too.
I agree with you although I personally feel it is a big difference meeting as actual adults unlike the couple in the video where she was 16. I think the frontal lobe being fully developed plays such a huge part in age gap relationships being successful. My ex and I met when I was 24 and he was not a good person for me to put it lightly and looking back at what I put up with now that I am 28 turning 29 in two months I would never have accepted the same treatment today so imagining meeting him at 16 would have done alot more harm. Not saying that goes for everyone! Just my personal experience
I have a different perspective on this mother. To get her own way she calls the police to waste their time. There are plenty criminals out there doing all sorts of crimes, yet this mother only thinks of her own dilemma. Okay your daughter probably sexually active already and needs to learn by her own mistakes because she clearly isn't listening to mother.
Your love you are manipulative. Shes a child in school. Older guys who go for pre teens and teens , otherwise immature girls to dominate . She hasn't experienced life , relationships jobs nothing. .
Sadly, the mom just has to let her go. And not give her money or a place to stay. You have to let them do their own thing, because at that age, they are completely completely out of your control, and any active force to try to remain in control of them, will just make things worse. It took my best friend breaking up with me to realize that maybe I should actually leave my abusive ex. She refused to see me or talk to me because she told me she could just not love me anymore. Sometimes exactly what you want help you realize it's not what you want. And hopefully this kid realizes it before she becomes pregnant.
29:29 ❤❤❤ Dr phil how he sees and tells the truth to her mother about her disgusting parenting. My mother is a craycray and sadly is not a mother and abandoned/has never been there for me. So sad, that teen just wants/needs to be loved
their was a 7 year difference between my first husband and i and that was enough of a gap to make a difference. plus ... she killed me with the go go gadjet wiener lol i laughed so hard.
Mom made mistakes...no doubt! But mom cares and is scared for her daughter. Pray she makes a good decision. Lord we asking for this young gal to see clearly.
He is immature and controlling and lacks of confidence, hence he is together with someone who admires him, he can dominate (for now) and lacks the experience to contradict him. A tactic men followed for centuries. And for centuries women got caught in marriages that restricted them and made them miserable.
Are you kidding l. me shes is in braces. Which on her face and frame emphasized her youth . On her. My comment is not to say anything else regarding the purpose of braces and adults who've warn them etc . One form of abuse is to alienate the family and friends .
The more you try to keep her away as a parent the more she is doing the exat opposite. Teens just want to be a Rebell just let it go and she find out soon that he's not the prince charming she thougt as soon as he has other interest and her friends dont want to hang out with a guy by the age of there parents
She is too young, has not lived at all! I got married at 19, had a child at 20, nedless to say it didn't work out, my ex was only one year older and he just wanted to party. I matured he never did. We were too young to understand life. This young girl just wants to play house!
Mom is pushing them closer and closer together. 11 years is not out of the ordinary, do I condone a 17 year old and a 28 year old dating, NO. next year it will be a different story though. If they love each other, they should try to end it and wait until she is 18, things change 18 really is not a good age to decide your life, then again I don't think 18 is old enough to vote either
Bro even when I was 18 years old myself I wasn’t into girls my age or less 😂 I always preferred a more mature woman like in her early to late 20s. It’s just that before 20 they don’t look fully mature to me more like childish which is eww no offense tho lol
Yes the age difference is looked down upon, But when one is 45yrs old female with a 55yrs old male it doesn't sound so bad. Leave them alone. Support her continuing education. The more the parent fights this the more they are going to stay together.
As someone who is 28 turning 29 this year, the thought of dating a 17yo is actually insane to me
@@pookiemang Age of consent in parts of Europe is 14.
@ completely irrelevant. If YOU at 28 is attracted to a teenager you clearly have issues
Agreed. But it’s still not illegal if it’s consensual. Mom raised her wrong. End of story. Women need to take accountability.
Thank you. I’m 55 now and was thinking back YEARS and I with you completely. She’s a grown baby.
Same age as me dude and yeah I don’t even date women under the age of 26. 25 is pushing it for me. 17 is a baby.
This guy acts like he's 17. She is going to outpace him in maturity level pretty soon.
Unlikely. Women are easy to manipulate.
Is her father absent? She has very poor taste in men and is being love bombed by this idiot
I agree with you and I have seen the other commenters say that she married another guy shortly after this show aired.
She is now 30 and has 3 kids 🙂
My 19 yr old niece told her mom (my sister) that her boyfriend was 24. Turns out, he was actually 30. This guy was extremely controlling. They were living together, he found another apartment for them to live in and didn't even tell my niece before signing the lease. Everyone that knew them well noticed how unhappy she was.
One day my sister got a call from her, asking to be moved. (He was out at the time) My sister picked her up and they never looked back. I don't even think they got all of her belongings. I'm not saying that a big age difference is 100 % a bad thing. Had they both been 10 yrs older, my niece would have seen red flags.
A 16 yr old isn't going to listen to anyone because they think they know it all .
Had this happen with my daughter. Now they’re married. Horrible marriage, she is totally controlled by her husband. She gets no money has nothing to say about anything not even her own child and hates me when i try to help her get out of the situation. I can’t help her because she refuses to acknowledge her situation. I pray for them
That’s all you can do, pray.
@ I know, I gave it to God. Only He can save her, if she allows Him.
I am so sorry. Gut wrenching.
Thank god some people do get out and make it! When they are ready. They will be so much stronger! I hope this moment comes verry soon for you and your family ❤ sorry for my english, im from holland
You failed in raising her if she hates you. Look in the mirror and you’ll find the person you need to “pray for.”
Childish talking. What we have in common? Sounds like grade school. We like the color blue. We like taco's. We like to fish. He gave her stuffed animals. Oh my this is sad...
They probably have matching squishmallows. No but this is literally SAD.
She is on facebook, she is not with this guy. She's married to a guy named Tony and has a couple of kids. Sadly her mother passed away in 2019
Glad she took another ,better path for herself ..
His kind is sickening ; selfish, immature and basicly a Pedro. She is a child!
26:27 do you see the part where the mom brutally and physically abuses the girl?
80% of the time, single mothers are responsible for breaking up the family
17 is not a child. It's 365 days away from a legal adult
@@cheery-hex it is a child. I don't care what any 'legal document' says. Or would you claim a 17 year old has the same mental capacity and insight as a, let's say, average 30 year old? Not counting this guy because clearly he has the mental capacity of a 17 year old as well. Some people never mature.
@@cheery-hex17 is a child.
And 18 and 19 should be legally considered children as well, they're only teenagers. Kids. They're not fully developed. Not even close.
He groomed her starting when she was way younger. This is....ugh.
Really?!? He “groomed” her? In her home with her parents?!! Lmao shut up moron
Telling her that her father loves his other children more is exponentially painful. One would need years of therapy to deal with that...and all that is affected in terms of shame, self-worth, self-perception.. self talk, interpersonal skills ....the list goes on.
Often parents don't realize how impacting their words and actions can be. I empathize with the daughter.
"You're so mature, you're not like other girls my age. You're not like other girls YOUR age. Age is just a number. No all of my exs are the crazy ones, they're lying because they're mad they don't have me anymore. In 15 years our age gap wont matter to anyone anymore. I wanna have kids and be your husband, im gonna be the best husband ever i can't wait to parent with you. Let's choose baby names! Your parents/guardians are so controlling, they treat you like a child and we both know you're too mature for that treatment. You should just get emancipated and move in with me. Your friends only don't like me because they're jealous i chose you and no one older likes them or that they're not as mature as you are, you shouldn't be friends with people like that, shouldn't waste your time on them. Its you and me against the world"
I would bet my life that every single one of those things has been said at one point in their relationship.
Age is just a number, prison is just a place. You're not mature at 13-18. You're not even mature when you're 21. What you are, is dealing with a predator. They will isolate you as soon as possible.
This episode is from 2014. They are no longer together. Now she’s his age and he’s 38.
How exactly do you know they are no longer together. Can you give us a source?
thanks for the update. i wish when dr phil reuploads these videos it ends in a present day update
I'm curious as well and my guess is that in this tech social age...the person simply looked up the names and saw their social media which often gives a person's status. I don't have the interest to do all of that if this is the case, but I certainly appreciate it when someone else does😊@@josephinemiller4780
And there’s nothing wrong with an 11 year age gap now that she’s an adult.
I would like to see that episode. I was curious if they were still together. Luckily, if they never had a kid/kids together, they were able to easily go their own ways & not tied to each for life. She was too young. He took advantage of her. I met my daughter's father when I was 16 & he started making it public, going out more, etc & not as a "hidden couple" the day I turned 18. That's very creepy.
Great, he wants her? Then give him all of the bills for her braces, birth control, college, etc., and let him support her.
Exactly get imansimated from her and say here is the bills for her Brace's and Birth control and Collage and food
She’ll realize how naive she was and how predatory he is 10 years from now when her brain is developed… poor girl is a victim
I mean this episode was from 2014 so it is 10 years from now. She’s his age (27) and he’s 38 and they aren’t together anymore.
I’m nearly 24 and 30 seems so much older to me and in a totally different stage of life
6 years is nothing 😂
Poor mom, I can just imagine her frustration and anxiety
Hearing him admitting that he “wasn’t smart enough” was all I needed to know.
He needs to grow up. He's not 17 & she's destined to learn the hard way when he ditches her 10 years on for another 17 year old
Going from an abusive, controlling mother into the arms of an abusive, controlling man. She needs a long period of time away from both of them. Time to grow and mature.
Iv seen a lot of these Dr Phil episodes and the only thing i see in common in them all is the father is never on the stage.
We are in the EXACT same situation now with our 18yr old daughter and her 30 year old fiance. Only difference is now hes got her pregnant.
I'm so sorry to hear this, but at 18 she is legal aged so the parents have no legal recourse. I fear these arrangements will increase during this lonely man, stunted growth, hyper misogyny time because mature women often do not want to be bothered with these man boys. Good luck with everything wishing your daughter a healthy pregnancy and delivery and you know that often after a woman gives birth...if the father of her new precious baby becomes a headache versus a help...she will wake up.
I was 18 dating a 30 year old and wow it was hard the guy gets jealous then acts like they smarter cause they are older
This Mum is doing her job and trying to protect her child and seems to have very little support. When this all started I would have taken her phone, all electronic devices, packing her up with out notice and I’d be moving as far away as possible. I'd be giving my daughter a fresh start and I’d start teaching her be much wiser in her choices.
A parent that didnt care....would just let her go with this imature childish man.
My husband is 21 years and 11 months to the day older than me but I wasnt a teen when we met. I was in my late 20s. I am now 32 an he is 54 and we have a wonderful marriage and a wonderful relationship. I believe sometimes it can work out but not with a literal child. She was way too young
Sick 🤧
@@j2323j thats your opinion which you are entitled to but stick with the old saying "if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all"
Thanks for the comment though 😀
@@j2323j thats your opinion which you are entitled to but stick with the old saying "if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all"
Thanks for the comment though 😀
@@KayeFannin-jt5xs nah i going with if you see something say something you are sick
@@j2323j There is a big difference between 17 and late 20's. You had time and space to mature and make informed decisions.
How did he go to prom?! They won't let my 18yr old daughters 21yr old boyfriend go
The only way I can think of is they lied about his age.
He didn't. He dropped her off.
They said he wasn’t able to go. He could chaperone but not attend as someone’s date
@@jerileeadams2589 that's dumb
He only like her because she’s this young. As soon as she’s in her 20s he’ll be out the door looking for another teen.
The Di Caprio syndrome
‘With braces’ What do the braces have to do with anything😭
I think just to emphasize her youth and lack of maturity.
@@CynLeeAmbraces has nothing to do of that, she’s just correcting her teeth
@Abbs100nhere typically braces are applied when young tho! 🙄 Let's not split hairs please when you already know this! When are online trolls like you ever going to learn that no one will ever ever care about what you say other than to be annoyed and tell you to F off. You literally have no argument to even stand on with this yet you'd beat it to death if I kept engaging. Which I will not, so don't even bother responding. I'll just ignore you anyway.
its a BIG HINT that shes a CHILD
Chill @@Abbs100nhere
Why wasn't he arrested for stautory rape?
If little girls aren't the apple of there daddy's eyes they will seek it from someone else 😢😢
This is an older episode. Need an update
Another commenter said they weren’t together anymore. I was wondering the same thing.
Mom you are driving her away even though you're right to be concerned you're counter productive and abusing her . So is he. Dependence is not love. This poor girl is vulnerable and everyone's trying to invoke her to do what they want. She's the one who is crumbling. The past is done but if this baby girl is not going to grow. I'm so sad about. This. Please don't get pregnant don't become physical til your older. If it's meant to be it'll be years away. He needs to care for his real child . You need school your smart improve your self esteem and your future independence.
This is what happened when the mother doesn't keep the relationship with the father
@kirk.w.mclaren not all the time
She's 17 but looks 37 she's already aging due to all the trouble, hope she open her eyes
She hates her mom? Oh, who paid for her braces? Her clothes? Her bills? Sad to say this is puppy love. This is a train wreck to happen. Birth control? Come on. He will go to jail if they say they are. He is very immature. Maybe that's why it's working.
His "we're not sleeping together" carry on... who does he think he's fooling?
This is so wrong on many levels. Yes, I made a similar mistake, however, I have since matured and repented and realized it was a mistake.
If this was my daughter that guy will be begging for a protective order because I will take the law into my hand and he’ll get something I can’t say on TH-cam.
The name calling is hurtful 💔 but i applaude the mother for really trying her best in the sickening situation. I would want to get my child out of this situation asap and i applaude her for doing it calmly because i would have freaked out!!
30:09: “I mean, I’m just wondering when you’re going to encounter an adult in your life that doesn’t behave like a child.”
That statement deserved a round of applause-or, as a trained therapist might suggest, a moment of silence to let its weight fully sink in.
I so hope this young girl eventually has an adult in her life. ❤️
There’s nothing he has in common with someone that age. She’s just easy to manipulate. So sad. & go mom for doing everything she can.
If the mother is a single mother. That is part of the problem.
@MyMcCummings I didn't get along with boys my age. When I was 18, nearly all of my best friends were in their late 20s. Some of them were gay. I had no sexual relationship with them, just a lot of good talks.
This is why fathers in the home are so important. This man never would’ve been so bold if he was afraid to get assaulted every time he talked to this girl.
This happened to me as a young girl. I was 16, he was 26. He married me 3 days after my 18th birthday. About a year into our marriage I began to see his immaturity. I realized I was the adult in the relationship. Thank God I was smart enough to say no when he wanted us to have kids. My parents were smart enough to realize that it wouldn't last. They mostly held their tongue to preserve our relationship. My parents paid for my divorce after two years of marriage.
"We kept it a secret " ... um the we have so much in common like their hair color dude you're creepy
26:10 the look shes got on her face when her BEST FRIEND is trying to look out for her is obviously her holding back tears because shes being exposed.
We've all been therr honey, it just didn't happen on national TV with a pedo boyfriend 😮
I have a 15 year age gap with my husband. I find this disgusting and insane. I was 27 when we met. A full adult with a career etc. I know some people still think it's weird but it isn't predatory. It's nothing like dating a child. Just eeeew. I wanted to vomit listening to this. It's upsetting when I see people using relationships like mine to justify something cleary damaging like thus.
I agree with you! I personally feel it is a big difference meeting as actual adults unlike the couple in the video where she was 16.
I think the frontal lobe being fully developed plays such a huge part in age gap relationships being successful
She sounds like a five-year old and that is disturbing.
My parents were this age when they met needless to say it didn't work out and the children suffered for it.
But they gave you life
how does the brother he was friends with feel?
“Could we get to the part that involves water…?” 😂
I dont believe the daughter when she exaggerates, "abuse" from her mother! My best friend's sister's daughter told her teachers in high school that her Mum was abusive to her. It was investigated and found to be a lie. All her 4 siblings confirmed this so did the neighbors. I witnessed her pretending to faint. I put her in the recovery position after checking vitals only to realize she was faking the whole thing. What a drama queen!!!...all the while her siblings were laughing at me....
I feel like he goes for young girls because he is mentally so young. Girls his age wouldn’t put up with his maturity level
When she said the doctor kept asking her so many times she finally gave in and accepted the birth control she was deff talking about HIM and not the Dr. so sad
Nothing will work, until she falls out of "love" with this creep. He will eventually do something she can't relate to. Or she will get pregnant and become like the other babies mommas.
He gets them young and when they grow old he will search for the next 16 year old. He already did it in the past. The last girlfriend was also 16.
It seems like his maturity level is about her age. He has an obsession with dating much younger girls. Sounds like my ex-boyfriend and he is 64 married to a 23 year old and she doesn’t even live in this country. They have been married for two years, and she still lives in the Philippines. That could actually be a Dr. Phil show.
Wow, when the mom calls CPS on herself... you know its serious
Met her when she was 7 🤯
I met my wife when she was 10.....
1 was 12.
We lived normal lives.. had schiol ,.Friends, BFs everything.. then met up again at 20.
We married mid 20s..
This is sick and criminal.
Very old episode.i wonder what happened to them now
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As a mother I would do all that I can to prevent this toxic relation...BUT if it got to the stage where my daughter is this dumb, I would leave them be with the understanding that if my daughter wants to come back to me because the relationship didn't work there would be a legal contract between my daughter and I on how we move on from that
This girl thinks that because she is intelligent then she is smart. But you just dont have the life experiance at that age to "get" the world and the way it works. This guy isnt smart enough or stable enough to save himself, he definitely isnt going to be able to save her. Guys like this seem to have a great ability for spotting a wounded young girl who craves love and attention and they give it to her...until they think they have her, then its off to the next one as their current relationship becomes a dumpster fire.
Well said!
She protests too much - of course she was sleeping with him.
Such good advice Dr Phil I hope Cheyenne listens and takes it. All the very best Cheyenne. 🌹❤️
Oh boy. And she’s still an honor student?! Let her go to college and figure herself out.
He won't let her go to college because it threatens him.
@ i see that as her only escape.
She's 17? Isn't that illegal. She's not 18 yet.
In some states, 17 is legal
I'm not in favour of men having relationships with ungerage girls at all. But I never understand why people keep gasping when they hear about age gaps. I have a retiree friend who has been living with his gf for almost a decade. The age gap between them is over 25 years. He's happy. She's happy. And during the time they've been together, I've heard of dozens of same-age divorces - some messy with kids involved too.
I agree with you although I personally feel it is a big difference meeting as actual adults unlike the couple in the video where she was 16. I think the frontal lobe being fully developed plays such a huge part in age gap relationships being successful. My ex and I met when I was 24 and he was not a good person for me to put it lightly and looking back at what I put up with now that I am 28 turning 29 in two months I would never have accepted the same treatment today so imagining meeting him at 16 would have done alot more harm. Not saying that goes for everyone! Just my personal experience
The Mom is nuts too
I have a different perspective on this mother. To get her own way she calls the police to waste their time. There are plenty criminals out there doing all sorts of crimes, yet this mother only thinks of her own dilemma.
Okay your daughter probably sexually active already and needs to learn by her own mistakes because she clearly isn't listening to mother.
Your love you are manipulative. Shes a child in school. Older guys who go for pre teens and teens , otherwise immature girls to dominate . She hasn't experienced life , relationships jobs nothing. .
If the mother is a single mother. That is part of the problem..
No one dould dominate me when I was a teen.
@@sr2291I think that would depend on how you were raised and you as a person. I can see this girl being extremely manipulated
Sadly, the mom just has to let her go. And not give her money or a place to stay. You have to let them do their own thing, because at that age, they are completely completely out of your control, and any active force to try to remain in control of them, will just make things worse.
It took my best friend breaking up with me to realize that maybe I should actually leave my abusive ex. She refused to see me or talk to me because she told me she could just not love me anymore. Sometimes exactly what you want help you realize it's not what you want. And hopefully this kid realizes it before she becomes pregnant.
29:29 ❤❤❤ Dr phil how he sees and tells the truth to her mother about her disgusting parenting. My mother is a craycray and sadly is not a mother and abandoned/has never been there for me. So sad, that teen just wants/needs to be loved
My 16 yo sister, back in the 1980s, married a man 20 yrs her senior.. so 36.. Hes 99 now and theyre still married..
THIS GUY HAS TO WAKE UP, HE IS A GOING TO GO TO JAIL
their was a 7 year difference between my first husband and i and that was enough of a gap to make a difference. plus ... she killed me with the go go gadjet wiener lol i laughed so hard.
This is an old episode. Wish we had an update
She's not ready to hear Dr. Phil. She has an attitude.i hope she listens sometimes in te near furture, she'll reflect.
This episode is from 2014. Now she's his age and he's 38. They are .married and got 4 kids with a fifth underway~
That is a lie. Don't be a troll
Mom made mistakes...no doubt! But mom cares and is scared for her daughter. Pray she makes a good decision. Lord we asking for this young gal to see clearly.
He is immature and controlling and lacks of confidence, hence he is together with someone who admires him, he can dominate (for now) and lacks the experience to contradict him. A tactic men followed for centuries. And for centuries women got caught in marriages that restricted them and made them miserable.
This boy/man child should be in jail he is emotionally immature plus not a good role model for his son..his ex wife and she is in danger
A go go gadget Weiner LMAO XD
Are you kidding l. me shes is in braces. Which on her face and frame emphasized her youth . On her. My comment is not to say anything else regarding the purpose of braces and adults who've warn them etc
. One form of abuse is to alienate the family and friends .
Dr phil is defending an abusive mother to the core. That's so sad to see.
The more you try to keep her away as a parent the more she is doing the exat opposite. Teens just want to be a Rebell just let it go and she find out soon that he's not the prince charming she thougt as soon as he has other interest and her friends dont want to hang out with a guy by the age of there parents
Age DOES matter but if she’s 21 then it’s her choice right?
She is too young, has not lived at all!
I got married at 19, had a child at 20, nedless to say it didn't work out, my ex was only one year older and he just wanted to party. I matured he never did. We were too young to understand life.
This young girl just wants to play house!
Love to know if they are still a couple…
This came out 2014 they aren't together anymore
@ Thankyou!!!!😁
My older kids always fell asleep while FaceTiming their girlfriends…..
Anyone here condemn the word “normal” and think it’s a subjective label?
Mom is pushing them closer and closer together. 11 years is not out of the ordinary, do I condone a 17 year old and a 28 year old dating, NO. next year it will be a different story though. If they love each other, they should try to end it and wait until she is 18, things change 18 really is not a good age to decide your life, then again I don't think 18 is old enough to vote either
Agreed on all points.
Bro even when I was 18 years old myself I wasn’t into girls my age or less 😂 I always preferred a more mature woman like in her early to late 20s. It’s just that before 20 they don’t look fully mature to me more like childish which is eww no offense tho lol
How is this legal???
They applauded the guy…and Dr Phil shook the man’s hand and asked him how he was…
because it's not that big a deal? It's not like she's 13 or 14
@ a. She’s a minor and he’s too old for her. B, hes committed some crimes, including assauIt
He is a typical abuser. He is with her because she is young and naive and easily manipulated. Funny how all the ex girlfriends are liars
I'm 21 and I'd never date a 16 pr 17 yr old. I wouldn't even go to 19 year olds!
Yes the age difference is looked down upon, But when one is 45yrs old female with a 55yrs old male it doesn't sound so bad. Leave them alone. Support her continuing education. The more the parent fights this the more they are going to stay together.
Exactly
Id like the see an update on this teen Cheyenne.
THE PROBLEM IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR DAUGHTER -- GET YOUR DAUGHTER OUT OF THE COUNTRY
@@suewills3514 that's s great idea...on the pretence that she's going on vacation or exchange student in a tropical country
I just realized how long ago I saw this when I heard the “go go gadget wiener” line. I wonder what happened between them.
Still has slumber parties and orthodontic appointments. LOL! Sadly, he is very immature but she can't see that because he is on her level.
This was an episode from years ago, I wonder how it worked out? Guaranteed it didn't.