SADC deployment in DR Congo against the M23 draws mixed reactions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2023
- The eastern Democratic Republic of Congo is increasingly hosting more foreign troops seeking to restore peace and stability in the volatile region. However, the recent move by Kinshasa to seek the combat capabilities of the Southern African Development Community against the M23 rebel group has attracted mixed reactions as there are already other East African regional troops and a UN peacekeeping force on a similar mission there.
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Let SADC come in, They will learn their lesson Properly.
Unless they use bioweapon
Only weak species use guns
SADC has done it before liberated kabila senior M23 was banished this DRC enemies know.
stfu tutsi bot. Tanzanian and SADC forces killed and expelled your m23/rdf terrorists back in 2012 😆
I think everyone who goes to DRC only for their own benefits 😞 it's been too long, I mean, how strong is the M23 that they can't be defeated against all these troops being sent.🤷🏾♂️
Because all the EAC countries are accomplices of the Tutsis/Rwanda/M23. This terrorist group gets its weapons from an arms dealer who lives in Kenya. We congolese know that very well.
The problem is that the UN is there to assist imperialist countries loot the minerals in East DRC, not to accomplish its real mission .For instance , a few months ago the SG of UN Antonio Gutteres said that the M23 militia have more weapons than the UN blue helmets.Can you believe him ? How a smal group of militia which cannot even buy 10 transport trucks can be more powerful than 10 000 UN blue helmets .
What, you really think other nations should risk their soldiers getting shot up and killed solving the problem you should be solving by yourselves? And for free? As long as DRC keeps looking to outsiders for help, they won't win.
DRC is the one that invited SADC. It knows it’s troops are effective.
East African countries are the ones who have economic interests in DRC.
Hence M23 are Rwanda Proxies.
Good question.
The main issue here is why is the AU not creating a central command center secondly why is the AU not meeting with all sides and actually come with a common solution. As an African I understand the reasoning of the M23 rebels concerns but the media from all groups always interviews the government instead the M23 rebels
I am sure you are a rebel yourself maybe you know who is the M23 if not Rwanda proxy
There is a government, which called for order. There were conditions and terms before any negotiations. All grouod respected, but M23 refused. They are the ONLY ones who wish to be intergrated in the army again as generals and etc.
They have used this way to infiltrate the army and the government system of DRC with Rwandan generals. Remember the chief of the Rwandan army himself made himself chief if the Congolese army. Kenya has welcomed Somaliens. It still does not give Somaliens the right to become Kenyan generals or ministers, with or without training. The attitude of President Tshisekedi is right for Congolese people, although tough.
Soonner or later the "Ubwenge" will reach its ends, but let us accept to pay the ultimate price once and for all. Many countries in war invite other forces, when tbey feel limited. Nothing is wrong with the calling of forces. It ONLY needs coordination and high precision in actions.
They may have genuine concerns,yes, but who is funding their violence to kill women and children!M23 may not be a problem, but their funders are a problem, they are exploiting M23's genuine concerns to their advantage!
@@kaban-ji beautiful answer thank you for this, from congolese in europe
@@arr8577 who lives in Europe and many other countries. However with a residence in DRC and also ACTIVE in DR Congo and EMPLOYING other Congolese fellows. Indirectly fighting the war against poverty; not for himself but with people who not kf my family, neither my tribe. Please I encourage you to do the same.
The introduction is already wrong. There are SADC forces with offensive mission. DRC did seek help offensively. Peace keeping is more defensive. The EAC has not succeeded to desarm the rebel group of M23 and this is the reason why DRC has started to look for alternatives.
EAC can't fight it's on proxy but we needed to understand this, so we invited them to see now we know that's why the SADC is now invited. The EAC mandate will expired in June and will not be renewed atleast we know who are friend are !
All lies you’re spewing. Tribalist lies it’s your government in Kinshasa that is corrupt not respecting the agreements. Look at how messy your country is so massive with so many resources but you claim that m23 caused all this. M23 are fighting for their rights and land in the east. Fighting against corrupted FARDC that mix with mali tia groups like FDLR to kill congolese Tutsi and hema. You will not make progress talking nonsense never holding your corrupt government to hand. Always blaming others. You will forever be in misery and the failed state of africa. Tribalism and jealousy towards rwandaphones won’t solve your mess . SADC won’t solve it neither will the UN. Enjoy your populism and your dombole, singing and dancing and wearing designer clothes . The rest of africa will continue to leave you behind whilst you continue to hate on others developments whining all day. Enjoy complaining forever
The EAC is already making steps atlist there's some m23 withdrawal..
@@officialbombdropper9435 They are doing as if they are withdrawing, changing their clothes into civilian clothes and hiding weapons with them while mingling into the population that theu are using as human shield. For me this is not a withdrawal. Peace does not come for free...we jjst have to pay the ultimate price. They have caused a HUGE number of dead among civilians...over 6 million up to 2018!! It will be foolish to put up with that qnd them...
First i was surprised why Congo joined EAC, because some of EAC countries are Congo's enemies (Rwanda & Uganda). Secondly Comgo inviting the EAC to help them combat the M23, but M23 is sponsored by some of the EAC countries. For me it didn't make sense and a lot of Congolese people were against it from day one. Kenya is a bit neutral, but Kenya is most likely to aside with Rwanda and Uganda, than with Congo.
Is not foreign troops is African troops. How can an African be called foreigner in his own land.
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SADC is going there to kick out the M23. Whatever the EAC is their business.
We can only have peace in DRC by creating a strong , credible and modern Congolese army.
The m23 is fighting for it's human Rights.
Who fight for human right by killing other human. The M23 are not congolese they go and fight for human right in Rwanda and Uganda
@@APConsept The DRC government is trying to tarnish them by making up lies. If you want I can show you people that are being killed for being Rwandaphone even though they are on their ancestral land.
M23 are as Congolese as u can get mate, go read The Goma Accords
@@TenToesDownInc. the are not
@@michellekabanga3612 says you? These same people were given Congolese government positions and military ranks at a national level when the government decided to negotiate with their eastern combatants. I wish Rwanda and Uganda actually supported M23 because they really should.
Out sider can not fight for your interest because you own the house and it belongs to you these troops deployment is not necessary
I agree
DRC government loves politics
YES, and to enter the DRC politic arena one must make sure he got a long rope to climb back up. The DRC is a pit that even the Europeans are afraid to enter. The EAC thought they can play us . They got trapped like filthy 🐀
I'm starting to agree with that.
For how long what peace are they keeping in DRC this is very sad
This Cooperation shows us African-Diaspora that Africa is becoming mature . And it makes me want to invest
M23 no retreat no surrender ❤, M23 they're fighting for their rights 💪.
Their rights ??
U must be weed smoking. Their rights in someone's country?
It's like everyone go there and create its own rebel group 😂😂
EAC failed.... SADC is ready.
Eac supports m23
@@diazcastro7331 exactly
What will SADC achieve in fitting? Peace? why didn't they assure peace when they were there?. Guns will only win war but not battles, Congo has seen enough of guns and solution is end to guns. less that it's just a joke.
SADC kicked ass before guess where they went Rwanda and Uganda all suddenly appear with guns we can only conclude that they are Rwandans and Ugandans
Which means fighting will get the same result. EACRF approach was more promising.
VIVA Angola the INDISPUTABLE greatest WARRIORS of mother Africa history; MPLA-FAPLA the ones that fought and won the WAR; against the colonialists and imperialists supremacists Nazis in South AfriKKKa Apartheid~English~Boers and USA of KU~KLUX~KLAN~CIA... Also in Congo in 2001 first Africa world WAR; between countries, Angola Won for CONGO ONE LOVE
Angola never won anything in Congo
They need to open a AU military base in Congo and Sudan it can be small but it will be affective
Yeah, like why is the AU doing nothing but sitting and talking?
We don't need help in the Congo at all. We remove Monusco, EAC and SADC and still win that war imposed to us by white imperialist through snakes evils like Rwanda, Uganda and Kenya (aka neutral)
Their fear is that they know that as soon as Sadc hits the ground, M23 is gone and they don't like that.
Sadc is on ground nothing special.
@@user-uu1wh1jy7t not the 90s SADC, no!
I don't think the ECREAF has failed in it's mandate it is the mandate that was sighned ,in Kinshasa ,ECREAF is not a peace enforcement mission but a peace keeping mission to protect and create a buffer zone ...the EAC (Kenya ,UGanda,Burundi ) forces has succeeded in somali against alshabab so what is is this ragtag m23 are you talking about
Is the DRC building there own professional military? How is M23 still there?
African problems need Africans solutions
SADC is welcomed 🎉🎉
They feel all
The whole world must denounce the UN/MOSCO who is participating in genocide against Tutsi Congolese, will have to be held responsible for their shameful ethnic cleansing in support of the DRC gvrt , South Africa and FDLR and CNDD Burundi which committed genocide in Rwanda and Burundi respectively against the Tutsi. This is war crime and UN, RDC, CNDD will be held responsible and accountable for the blood of the Tutsi in DRC and Great lacs in general.
Rwanda, Uganda, Kenya are not trust anymore by the DRC
Let us see.
UN troops should get out and allow the African troops led to liberation of DRC from terrorist.
When I was younger I did join the arm group maimai cause of the killing of rwanda arm we used to fight them and push them to rwanda by that time we didn’t have enough weapons but we where trying cause of saving our family’s lives, this thing of bringing different groups to get help is wast of time money and resources , Congo government lets investing on our own security, get to open military more schools and send people of drc outside to go and get more military advance, used people at least got diploma or upwards from school, let the soldiers get paid enough not those $50, when monusco and others get $1000 and $1000 for doing nothing watching people died every day even they weapon and bullet got rusted now cause they are just for fashion @ mr president Felix you are trying to bring Congo back but is not gonna be easy, I remember when I was in Congo I used to go to school with Ak 47 just to save my community no one will die for my mother if I don’t sacrifice my self.
Where region we’re you from?
M23 on the top vs EAC ,SADEC,FRDC and To many a hundred rebels I can't imagine 😭
Let's give SADC a chance they have been successful in Mozambique against the jihadists we hope they will here because they quench fire with fire
No they have not
Kinshasha?
This is the most embarrassing news to the country Congo. How can a country fail to tame a regional group m23, bring in EA forces, they fail, Kenyan forces, they fail, now this 😂😂😂 !!! The end goal should have been the first, negotiations
DRC should train troops and use her own military to fight for their country. Dont bring in SADC or else youll stand risk of being ejected out of EAC.
Until M7 and Kagame are dead DRc will never be peaceful ✌️ these 2 are key in destruction
East Africa Community is a mess with M7 and Kagame around there it won't improve
I'm wondering who is in Bunia. The massacre happening in the province of Ituri is also Rwanda?😊
If the EA force is compromised then I think the SADC is welcome to me. If a certain pipe is not flowing you use the pipe that is bring water.
Its not compromised. Its more of 'politics' by parties involved. Also EACRF shouldn't be blamed as it has been there 4 months. That is not enough to end an over 20 yrs DRC war
@@jurassic-ms5qp what have they done in those four months? How long are they supposed to take? Were they coming to take vacation or bring peace?
Uganda is m23
@@estajeanette7487 process was M23 to withdraw from region they had captured to a certain place as negotiations continued. The process was continuing smoothly, and bit of normalcy returning as is witnessed. It was a peace keeping mission.
EAC is M23 Uganda and rwanda is M23
Stand onw African United
No peace till my people understand the Role of the Roman Catholic Church in colonialism, slave trade, DRC war conflicts etc....
Yeaaaa 🎉🎉🎉
The SA were there in 2013
I believe that one day God will bring peace in Congo.
Our God is a God of time and season believe me
We love sadec
Let's wait & see if they can pull this one,y'all dont comprehend whats going on in the east of the DRC🤔
You are talking nonsense we will kicker monusco et Eac must also move out
Sadac can't be compared to EAC regional force (UG).
Por que pelean con la misma fuersa
RDC is in war with Rwanda and Uganda, that the bitter truth.
This can create the roadmap for the AU army of the future. The UN should be watched carefully, should be handled soley by african nations.
The situation should be allowed to revert to its previous state before EAC deployment... This is just conmanship...
A country such as the DR Congo, exploited since recorded history in the 1400s, can hardly overcome entrenched corruption and exploitation on its own. The AU and SADC have a responsibility to assist the DRC and to help silence the guns in Africa!
I see SADC forces as a better alternative because SADC countries are far from DRC boarder and therefore won't be influenced by regional political games.The SADC forces will be there to pesue M23 where ever they are,in bush or fish them out of the communities, they will be there for war not to join peace keeping missions.
But, the DRC government must first of all remove all other forces which are in the country so that SADC forces can do their job properly.All Western countries proxy terrorist groups must be routed out of Africa before spreading to other parts of Africa!
You talk of SADC as if they’re a special force 🤣 they couldn’t even manage the islamists in Mozambique for four yrs. the Rwandans cleaned that job in less than two months. SADC is useless in gorrilla warfare. M23 will remain and defend their people and homeland. You can never get rid of them brave warriors
@@jalilbabi4161 they couldn't because Mozambique didnt want them to enter the conflict, they felt they had everything in control which they clearly didnt, they only went there last year
You know they failed in Mozambique right?
@@jalilbabi4161 Mozambique's internal conflict is very old my friend,it got worse when your masters, imperialist assassinated Samora Mashel in the 80s.The stabilizers by then was Zimbabwe, their troops stayed in Mozambique for than 25rs, they were removed when sanctions started to bite hard in Zimbabwe.Don't forget, Zimbabwe has also been in DRC fighting your imperial masters!
More recently the Wagner PMC,"Russians" took positions in Mozambique, followed by SA and joined by Rwanda,it was a group of foreign forces not just Rwanda.l repeat myself again,SADC forces because of their neutrality from local polical influence they can be a better alternative.
@@TreyMax What are your standards in measuring failure?
Go home un, the AU can fix this because it's our own African problem.💪🏾
When not face the owner of m23 in AU.
Let the Government of Congo DRC first know the number of troops in their country More so Ugandan Army before they add more troops because M23 is a joint force of UPDF and Rwanda Army who are aiming at dividing DRC into two. Just try to investigate about it and you will know the truth because many people are dying without knowing why the war can't end.
African problems needs African solutions. UN should go out period!
DRC is like that jobless guy who wants wants his neigbours to feed him.. they wanted EAC to fight m23 despite understanding thats not their mandate. soon we will hear about how bad SADC is..scared of little rwanda.. east DRC should declare independence if kinshasa cannot solve their crisis..over 50 years of chaos since the death of lumumba..kinshasa is 5,000 miles away. but can they?
Why is m23 a big problem still?
GREED!!!
SA are doing well
Africans must learn to work together
Where is the oganization of africa unnion.we only need united nations when two countries are fighting .but Africa should send their on forces instead of having groups of militial or forces from regions it will atract small groups of forces which will complicate thing more worse than we thought
Get our country
Hema genocide is happening everyday in Bunia and other people too. 10 🚗 burn in Ituri, 🐄 killed in Ituri and people and know one seems to care.
1 word..protecting Copper mine magnates.
EAC is m23
SADEC WILL PRESS BUTON OF BATLE FIELD LETS START KNOW BEFORE TIME NOT WORSRSEN
This is turning out to be a circus
It's absurd the South African forces together with DR congo forces are doing a genocide against the Congolese Tutsi minority who have been marginararised by the Congolese government and now fighting for their rights, yet South Africa is accusing Israel of doing a Jenocide against the Palestinians. This world is full of Hypocrisy and double standards.
Every time they will be something the world need, congolese will die, and it will never end. When you needed rubber we died when you need diamonds we died, when you need cold we died now that you need coltan and lithium we are dying.
Sadc will not deal with uniqualy the problem of m23.look for the main root of existence of m23
Sadec was lacking boots on the ground, all need piece of pie.
Congo needed SADC not East African community
The issue is the mineral resources funded by imperialists, this matter could resolved once the funders syop
The faster way to win this war is by removing all colourless forces
We don't want each they are brothers with Rwanda just leave please we tired of this jokes
Sin berguensa si fuera wagner ya gano
But why Africans we are such fulls we are fighting for what? Black against black??? Think about it soldiers
Monusco should leave. They are hypocrites.
SADC will fix DRC.
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This are criminals groups
Jealousy of congolais resources
M23 is Rwanda army
They are not rebel
Uganda is supporting Rwanda
SADC should be defeated in the name of the Lord! None should defeat the army who is fighting for helplessness peoples in Eastern Congo
Why SADC is not the problem are you from Rwanda
The sad thing is everyone short sighted looking at short term armed defeat of M23 not sustainable solution that addresses the root causes of M23 grievances and other 100+ rebels in the country . Remember SADC forces intervened before in 2012.. here you are now M23 issue is back because DRC Gov refused to adhere to peace agreement it signed with them. 🫤.
They not kongolese
Let me ask you: do you realize that many refugees you claim to be pure Congolese actually speak Kinyarwanda, the Rwandan language? Just look at their surnames if you don't believe me-they are Rwandan names. So why do you reject the M23 rebels, but accept others as Congolese when they share the same background and roots? Just visit Rutshuro, Masisi, Kibumba, and Nyakiru, and you'll see that all the people living there speak Kinyarwanda. Stop this divisive rhetoric and end the tribal discrimination, because that is the only way for Congo to achieve peace. No one should risk their lives for minerals, because war is unpredictable and no one knows if they will survive. The M23 rebels are Congolese fighting for their rights, just like any other Congolese.
The thing about all this is.. as peace and security returns, what these people have gone through for the past 2 decades plus the mudslides and volcanoes etc… only a imbecile will try and befriend or attempt to be entertained by them for THEIR own peace and security. 😁🫡