and I worked on this turkey, mainly for a pay check and heath benefits after getting laid off from Hanna-Barbera. The first scene you showed was my work. But from day one, I knew this was going to be a bomb, but everyone involved in this project was treating this film like it was going to be some kind of classic in the Disney mold. You're correct, in that the Attorneys from the Mouse House made frequence visit to the studio while the film was in production to make sure we weren't violating the copyright on their "original" movie. But everything you made reference to, was hilarious and correct. Thank you for doing this. By the way, this film is very difficult to locate on Video here in the US.
Wow, so you were involved with the eldritch-worm-circus-tent thing? I'm sure it wasn't your call, but there had to have been a way to do "mysterious carnival sets up by itself" without dipping into Lovecraft...
"Speaking of, what happened to him? Did Pinocchio smash him with a hammer?" If they want to claim the novel as their source material and not the Disney film, that's exactly what happened.
In reality, what I think actually happened is that the folks at Filmation forgot this was supposed to be a sequel part way through development and started making a remake instead.
The one thing that always baffles me about this movie is why the hell the girl puppet wasn't brought to life when the Not Blue Fairy brought Pinocchio back to life after being captured. Sure she would have probably been a generic girl character but she would have at least been a character, instead of a minor plot point at best
My thoughts exactly!! Especially since Willikers spends most of the movie away from Pinochhio, so it's not like the companion role was already filled...
That's what I was thinking too while seeing the opening clips, especially since she was tied up with him and the transformation part seemed to imply that Blondie (gonna call her that for short) was once a human that ended up getting tricked and transmogrified as well. The raccoon and monkey would not have held my interest as a child, and at least with Blondie, Pinocchio has someone his age to interact with. If they wanted to get more competent with the writing, Blondie could have acted as his mirror since her story would be the reverse of his, a human girl that became a lifeless puppet for god knows how long, and it could show the ramifications, at least mentally, on a human whose gone through the reverse. Instead she's a literal object until the last few minutes of the movie. And yeah I know her name is stated by Diva but idk, I prefer Blondie to Twinkle.
Bugged me as well. I also couldn't stop thinking about the other puppets in the background. Those probably were humans too. The only explanation I can think of for this (Besides laziness) is that they are sort of stand ins for the pleasure island boys. The ones who got turned into donkeys. A conflict which was never resolved and continued to happen after Pinocchio got away from there. But I don't think such a movie would really think this far.
Congratulations, you put more thought inti the use of a girl character beyond her obligatory part in the happy ending* than most kid's movie teams. *Because no story can have a happy ending unless the protagonist is paired up with someone of the opposite gender who they could have a romantic relationship and/or kids with somewhere down the line.
(meanwhile on the Muppet show theater balcony) Statler: Eh, I never liked that Pinocchio kid in this movie. Waldorf: Yeah, why's that? Statler: His acting got too WOODEN! Both: D'OH-HO-HO-HO-HO-HO!
"If I took a shot every time a Pinocchio adaptation quilt tripped a victim of trafficking, I'd take two shots, which isn't alot, but it's wierd that it's happened twice."
Because that would be too much of a departure from the source material. Although had Twinkle been given life when the Good Fairy revived Pinocchio, he could have served as the conscience to her while Willikers was away. Best way for Twinkle to come to life would be similar to how she did at the end, stray magic from the Good Fairy either by accident or as a secret test for Pinocchio. Twinkle wouldn't reveal her sentience until the Fairy left but before Pinocchio escaped. He could then take on a more big brother role, leading him to be sympathetic on how Jiminy and Willikers felt when she ends up led astray. Cut down time with the barracuda and keep Bugsburgh minus the frog to add a scene or two of Pinocchio keeping Twinkle out of trouble.
@@motxmod They didn't mind deviating from the source material enough to create her in the first place. Plus, this is theoretically supposed to be a sequel to the original story, not an adaptation of it. But yeah, I agree, that probably would've been the best way to handle her inclusion. Plus it would've solved the problem of Pinocchio acting like he didn't learn anything from his first adventure!
Elsie -- she does seem to have some sort of weird mystical presence, like during the Not Pleasure Island sequence, where her face appears in Pinocchio's drink to warn him off of drinking it.
I thought they were going to have Twinkle be a puppet brought to life (the same as Pinocchio), but Puppetino lured her to him with the promise of freedom, fortune and fame in exchange for recruiting more "actors" to turn into puppets and when she refused, he used his musical puppet-life-sucker-thing to turn her into an actual inanimate puppet and upon the Blue Fairy/Synergy clone reviving the both of them, Twinkle was going to take the place of Scalawag and Igor into pretending to be friends (and in Twinkle's case girlfriend) with Pinocchio to lure him to The Emperor Of The Night in exchange to become a real girl, but along the way befriends and falls in love with Pinocchio for real and ends up helping Pinocchio fight Puppetino and The Emperor.
The Pinocchio is this movie makes me more determined to work on my character design skills in fear of making anything that unintentionally creepy. At least I have reference if I ever need to design a creepy doll character.
Gappy Peters At least the characters' mouths would move in sync and the scores wouldn't be from public domain properties. *I'm looking at you, Golden Films.*
Carlo Collodi-Lorenzini: Killed Pinocchio off after fifteen chapters and only continued the story at the request of his tearful young fans. Filmation: His “Freedom” is now a lynchpin of the Cosmic Order.
I find it funny how some people will cry foul on people who want authors or writers to change the endings to some of there work as a break in there ”artistic integrity” in the modern age. But Authors had been doing such things for hundreds of year's and they are not seen as less as artists. Same applied to Sherlock Holmes author and Hans Christian Andersen.
You know, the threat of evil forces weakening the good fairy by turning Pinocchio into a puppet and stealing his freedom really isn’t that effective when he already turned into a puppet earlier on and she was just fine.
Emperor of the Night already voiced by the Emperor of Darkness. Pinocchio: Let my father go! EOTN: No, I am your father. Pinocchio: No.. That's not true.. NOOOOOOOO!!!! NO!!!! NO! *nose turns into lightsaber*
I just dont know what that poor ex puppet girl is going to think. She literally just got sentience therefore doesn't know of all the "fun" times dancing her and Pinocchio had and yet she is literally now the arm candy for this child. Like that actually sounds like the start of a existential horror story.
@@KingoftheJuice18 I think it is implied she is on a strings cause the film never implies she is alive and imprisoned by the weird guy who runs the show but totally isn't just the puppet master from the original. Cause if that is the case that could be worse cause then they knew she was sentient and did nothing to save her.
That's one thing I will give Filmation. They may have been lacking when it came to writing and originality, but they really shined when it came to their animation (when they weren't recycling it I mean).
His design is amazing, and he's better animated than anythign else I've ever seen in the Filmation catalogue. I think him, and his and Pinocchio's final confrontation, are the reasons I loved this movie as a child (and can'tbring myself to hate it even now). The rest is pure dreck, but toss in some Cosmic Good vs. Ultimate Evil magic lights and shadows, and I become trash for it.
@@ingonyama70 I honestly agree. Filmation really brought their A Game with this movie. I never saw this movie as a kid but The Emperor of The Night reminds me of Slaanesh from Warhammer 40k. They both offer pleasure and excess....for a price!
I’m pretty sure I had someone drunkenly sing “Love is the Light Inside Your Heart” to me, and the drunken slurring warble sounded almost exactly like the Blue Fairy.
I'll give Happily Ever After, credit. It WAS a sequel to the original fairy tale. Like, the story didn't feel like it was just redoing the same thing but worse again. This is just like "what other adventures can a human Pinnochio do? I KNOW it's the SAME adventures but worse."
@Rebecca Woolf I figure Disney was of two minds about their sequels' plots: 1. The story worked so well the first time, give them more the same! 2. There's absolutely nothing in the original story that could lead into a sequel, so just rehash it and the kids will be hooked!
@@gregorywiederecht At least with a lot of the Disney sequels that rehash the plot of the first movie, it's the main character's _child_ that does the same things/learns the same lesson, not the character themselves doing everything over again
Happily Ever After also had better voice acting, songs that fit into the plot better, and a more consistent story with no random scenes that end up having no relevance to the movie as a whole. Plus the role reversal of the Princess having to save the Prince for a change is rather interesting and something you’d think would be extremely common in movies these days since woke culture has made females the hero so common now and are just as capable of saving the day.
I was absolutely OBSESSED with this movie in fourth grade. Seriously, I was actively driving people away with how much I loved it. (Anyone who knew me back then, I AM SO SORRY) "Love Is The Light" could have been a really good song, and again, child-me was obsessed with it. (I still have it memorized, believe it or not). In hindsight, as someone mentioned below, it does sound like a lost Jem & the Holograms number, but it's still got a special place in my heart for being unironic, unabashed schmaltz that happened to hit me at JUST the right age to stick. (the song recording's audio quality is donkey-feces, though, I must admit) Seeing this retrospective, I know now that I was only obsessed with the film's third act. Everything that happens after "The Land Where Dreams Come True" was extremely compelling to child-me and I loved the idea that, no matter how badly you screwed up, you could get a second chance if you worked at it...and made the right friends. (I was 12, cut me some slack) I actually really love the design of the Emperor of the Night, and think he makes a much cooler adversary than Puppetino. Yeah, I was less frightened of the giant four-armed evil god than I was of the creepy cackling puppetmaster. Probably because Pinocchio's magic blue Freedom Glow (tm) just seemed awesome to my child self. Forutnately, over the course of a couple of years I would switch over to a full-time obsession with the X-Men and forget this movie existed for decades afterward.
Even if the Emperor of the Night is a clichéd, dull villain who really needs to read his Overlord List, his design is _way_ too good for this movie. (And not really suitable for a figure taking a Sauron or Satan place in the narrative as the Ultimate Evil.)
I don't think Disney sues out of some misguided impression that they can lay claim to public domain works. I think they just sue when another interpretation bears too much resemblence to their own. They don't own the stories, just the elements they create in order to tell them. And frankly, I would be on their side here.
I agree there's nothing wrong with other studios doing their own interpretations of classic Fairy Tales but it's painfully obvious that Filmation was trying to ride Disney's coattails with this movie and Happily Ever After
@@disneyfan94themuppetsforev95 And then a few years later was like, "Hey, we can make our own bad sequels to our old movies that rehash the plot of the original!" :D :D :D
Yeah as much as I dislike Disney (as a company) I kinda see where they were coming from here because this is almost beat for a beat a rip off of their movie
At the time, Disney was litigation crazy back then, any infringement of the copyright of their characters, then they were all over you like a cheese sauce on tater tots. One interesting story that happened while I was at Hanna-Barbera in the early 90's, a nursery school in Florida received a cease and dismiss letter from Disney to paint over their characters that were painted on the outside of their building. So, H-B came to the rescue and sent a couple of artists and painted Scooby-Doo and other HB characters on the school building. Another was a guy who was so in love with Disney, that he tattooed all the Disney characters over his entire body, the Mouse House wanted him to remove them....LOL
Disney: Makes an adaptation of a classic story. Other company: We could adapt a story... Disney: NO IT'S MINE! Other company: But the story is in public domain. Disney: IT'S MINE!
Then again, the old guy had a major mid-life crisis in the 90s. Then again, this is a 1987 movie, where Bluth was in the process of making Land Before Time.
Fun fact: Scalawag and Igor are voiced by Ed Asner and Frank Welker, who also voiced Scowl and Batso in Happily Ever After. Also from Happily Ever After, we have Jonathan Harris, who voiced the sunflower, and Linda Gary, who voiced two of the Dwarfelles.
I have nothing against animation being surreal and creepy but I feel like a lot of animated movies that were meant for children didn’t understand that you need to know your audience. You can’t make animation for children too surreal and creepy because you’ll lose your intended audience. Hell, I’m an adult and some of the animation this almost gave me nightmares
Absolutely! Kids like fantastical and surreal but on some artistic level it has to be “attractive” to look at for 2 hours. Some of these films are just.....ugly.
2:25: I find their attempts to distance this story from the Disney adaptation _here_ amusing, since the Blue Fairy* was in the original novel rather than being a Disney OC. *According to Wikipedia, she was formally known as La Fata dai Capelli Turchini, aka the Fairy with Turquoise Hair, but she was frequently referred to as La Fata Turchina (translated as The Blue Fairy). Probably because "Turchi" would be _too_ informal.
11:11 -- "Stupid Side Quest" -- I once wanted to do a comedy review video of this movie, but never got around to it. At this point, I was going to mention the side quest to Bugburg and say, "And what are we doing in Bugburg?" (Cut to clip of Disney's "Pinocchio.") HONEST JOHN: "We're wasting precious time!"
Good to know the little guy grew up to be pretty cool. Lord knows Scott can sing as an adult, just watch any episode where they give Steve an excuse to croon.
I think it’s a sign you’ve been on the internet too long when you develop a sixth sense about which animated characters have a niche but terrifying fan base
Well, since it's October, at least this would make a good semi Halloween movie. Hack, the plot of this movie alone would be enough to give anyone nightmares, let alone all the nightmare fuel.
Scott Grimes as Pinocchio James Earl Jones as The Emperor of the Night Don Knotts as Gee Willikers Tom Bosley as Mister Geppetto Rickie Lee Jones as The Fairy Godmother/The Good Fairy Ed Asner as Scalawag the Raccoon Frank Welker as Igor the Monkey Lana Beeson as Twinkle Linda Gary as Bee-atrice Jonathan Harris as Lt. Grumblebee William Windom as Puppetino
If there is one positive that came from this bomb it’s that Scott Grimes would later voice Steve Smith on American Dad and managed to have a successful acting career.
OMG I can't believe you did this movie. To this day, it still TERRIFIES me. Especially that Emperor. Here is something I just realized though. The Raccoon told Pinocchio when someone loses their freedom, the Fairy Godmother/Blue Fairy would grow weaker and the Emperor would grow stronger. So if the ONLY PUPPET ever to gain his freedom were to lose it....it would be a TERRIBLE blow for the Blue Fairy....maybe even DESTROYING her. HOWEVER.....earlier on in the movie, when The Fairy finds Pinocchio in his puppet form as Puppetino's prisoner...she says "You took your freedom for granted, Pinocchio....AND BECAUSE YOU DID, YOU LOST IT". So WHY then didn't the Emperor destroy her in THAT moment. He had Pinocchio's freedom. Game over. But he allowed the Fairy to restore him to life.
I was about to say the same thing, but I went back to make sure I knew exactly how it had been worded and they technically said when someone *gives up* their freedom and technically Pinocchio didn't give his freedom up but instead had it stolen. Still stupid though.
**curtains part** 🎶🎵”New York to Paris, London to Rome! Dreamers and dancers, don’t need a home! Do what I want to, go where I will! Take what I wish and tear up the bill! Dreaming and dancing, do what makes you happy! Life of romancing, do what makes you happy! No home to go to, no one to hold you! Mothers and fathers, get in your way! Don’t let you turn the night into day! Hug you and kiss you, no fun at all! You think I miss them!? My life’s a ball! Dreaming and dancing, do what makes you happy! Life of romancing, do what makes you happy! No home to go to, no one to hold you! No one to hold you, now!” **curtains draw**
So, with every other character being a bootleg of a disney character, who is the Emperor of the Night supposed to be? Maybe the Coachman? I always had a feeling he wasn’t human.
You're really doing The Lion King 2019? I can't wait to see how that turns out. And then two episodes later, it will be Cats 2019 as the 100th episode, I hope
I remember seeing commercials up the yin-yang for this as a kid, and, yes, Filmation really did think this was going to be a bug hit. Even the comercials were cringe-worthy.
We need to do like some kind of Bingo Card of "amazing actors slumming it in awful musicals." Even Diva has lamented some of the amazingly talented repeat offenders that come through this court: Minnie Driver, Alan Cumming, Bernadette Peters, Tim Curry, Dolly Parton...and the free space at the center would have to be poor Jessica Harper. Near as I can tell, she's 0-for-3 on the musical front (Phantom of the Paradise is debatable.)
Hey a paycheck is a paycheck. Just a shame an actor as awesome as James Earl Jones can't be more selective. Of course I think the same thing 9/10 whenever Tom Kenny and Mark Hamill show up
I was really about to rewind the video to see how exactly pinocchio was transformed back into a puppet and then I realized: I didnt even care. Another great case miss diva!
Ah yes; The Emperor of the Night another childhood movie I remember watching awhile back and back when James Earl Jones was still awesome Instead of what he Is In that Lion King Remake. I knew you review this movie eventually and got my wish as well and thankfully there's also no Coachman In sight (thank god) trying to spook me again just like he sued too. I'm already over that fear now but even got both his head and even King Dice's to prove It!
The worst part is, there are tiny glimmers of decent concepts in here, but they're overshadowed by the overall plot, the insistence on making it a Pinocchio sequel, and as you pointed out, the implication that our little wooden hero has learned ABSOLUTELY NOTHING from the life-changing (literally) adventure of the first movie only makes it worse. The idea of a battle between the forces of Good and Evil, with the Good Fairy growing stronger when people are good and weaker when they are cruel and selfish, could have been used to great effect even in a Pinocchio sequel. Instead, we got...this movie.
Apparently the reason that the Bugzburg scene was included was because Flimation was planning on making a spin off TV show with Grumblebee and Wilikers as main characters. Only two episodes were completed before it was cancelled entirely and was never aired on TV
Now I kinda want a story about a female puppet who gets brought to life as a reward for a dude and the goes - "Absolutely not, I have a life now so I'm gonna follow my own desires and do a bunch of stuff I want to do and if I settle down it'll be with someone I choose. Hell if I make her a particular type of doll, I can probably sell it as an R-rated comedy.
I have experience with the Carnival cruise line. I’ve never been on one of their cruises, but I spent a summer working for a tour company that they contracted with for shore excursions. Carnival’s shore excursion agents were always the most difficult to deal with, and I’ll never forget the day they had two of their ships-the Carnival Splendor and the Carnival Spirit-in port on the same day, and they mixed up which ship was at which section of the docks. Absolute chaos.
Seriously, imagine if the Emperor just wanted the Ruby to empower himself into his Ultimate Form and Pinocchio was just the person who happened to hold it and needed to destroy it so the Emperor can be banished from the Mortal Plains.
I don't think this one craps on Pinocchio's character the same way Love Never Dies did the Phantom and Christine. He's nice enough, just really naive and easily led astray. Also beloved heroic characters in the first don't turn into drunken jackasses here.
Personally, I find this movie to be rather tragic. There was definitely potential here, but the film suffers because the folks at Filmation didn't have the stones to actually do their own thing and insisted upon piggy-backing off the coattails of Disney ultimately turning this film into a unholy amalgamation of a sequel and a rehash. They should have either just stuck with the sequel idea entirely or made their own adaptation of the original story, but instead they somehow ended up doing BOTH. 14:55 Let's be real though, the Emperor of the Night is hands-down the best part of this movie. 18:12 That's most fantasy movies with a "Good vs Evil" plot though.
It's one sense it's curious that Diva finds the Emperor and Puppetino are creepy. One is a Satan analogy and the other is a diabolical agent. However, Diva is never creepy except perhaps when she's dishing out harsh punishment.
After reading the comments, I get that this movie isn't easy to find in the US . . . . but what's up with the sound? It sounds like they're talking out of a tin can or something like that. Was that the original movie, or just a bad audio quality from someone's copy of it on TH-cam?
13:31-13:49 Why does the footage have a KissCartoon watermark when the rest of the movie video doesn't? Was that scene cut from the whatever source you were using? If so, should I assume it was because of the implication that Pinocchio is getting drunk from the green liquid?
If I was paying $10, I'd still say that Francis Ford Coppola is still awaiting his ninth-circle judgment in court for "One From The Heart"-- But, if you're just hanging around the cartoons now, Princess & the Frog still has a lot to answer for...Unless you'd rather do "Heidi's Song"?
Thanks for reviewing this bizarre, often-overlooked (with good reason) curio from the Reagan years! Fun fact, Pinocchio is voiced by Scott Grimes from "American Dad". Other thoughts: 1. 1:20... I don't even want to know what that look is. 2. Look, I like Rickie Lee Jones. She's very talented and underrated, "Chuck E.'s in Love" is a classic for a reason, but she's just all wrong as the Blue Fairy. It's bad enough her song is trite as hell, but her voice, while nice, isn't strong enough to make it come alive. Shirley Jones or someone like her could have made "Love is the Light Inside Your Heart" more than the half-assed piffle it is. 3. I appreciate that they TRY to differentiate from the Disney version by having the theme be about appreciating your freedom, but they don't really convey it very well. Maybe the moral should have been listening to good judgment and common sense? Lack of freedom wasn't Pinocchio's problem, it was his inability to learn from past mistakes! 4. Of course Wilikers is an ineffectual twit, what do you expect from a character played by Don Knotts? 5. I'm stealing "plot tumor" for everyday use, so thanks for that! 6. THE EMPEROR OF THE NIGHT!!!! Wow, what a letdown. Got defeated by some puppet running into him.
After nearly *8* months, I finally made time for the "Pinocchio and the Emperor of the Night" episode. EDITS- 10:05 P.M.: *finishes episode 24 minutes later* This movie had better animation than "Happily Ever After". 10:06 P.M.: That has to count for something! 😅
She would only be Pinocchio’s sister if Gepetto had made her as well. Twinkle is more of a trophy wife only she looks like an eight year old girl with bad fashion sense.
It’s weird that this movie has odd spurts of good quality animation. Like at times it has a smoothness and bounce evocative of a Don Bluthe film, but the TV quality shading and grating TV quality 80s synth really bring it down. It’s also clear that they only called it a “sequel” with him as a “real boy” to get around Disney’s copyright, because it is literally just your bog standard retelling of the original story with knockoff characters that you’d usually see.
I saw the original 1940 Disney version ages ago. I would later read the Carlo Collodi original more than a few times. So no one needs to tell me there is a lot of differences between Collodi and Disney. At the end of the book, for instance, the Fox and the Cat are begging for change and destitute, and Pinnochio rebuffs them.
I'm not gonna lie I loved this movie as a kid and it scared the hell outta me lmao. I still have the VHS of this and love the nostalgia no matter how cheesy,creepy and weird as hell this movie is lmao...its a hidden gem ;)
I remember thinking that if the bad guys got their own dates (or girls) in the end that it would be a perfect movie for Valentine's Day But...sorry y'all but I liked this movie
A cashgrab that pushes itself as something new yet is just the same thing we've seen before that stars James Earl Jones? Where have I heard that before?
So pinocchio is one year old and twinkle was just born but somehow they expect us to think it's cute that he loves her. It's Romeo and juliet with seals all over again.
Not to mention this movie’s definition of “beautiful” is rather questionable as Twinkle doesn’t look even remotely pretty at all and just looks so bland. Her clothes are too plain, her hair is just there, and the scarf tied around her head makes me think it’s hiding a huge bald spot the size of a baseball with the way it is positioned.
SUGGESTIONS: Tom and Jerry: The Movie (1992) The 3 Little Pigs: The Movie (1995) The Ugly Duckling (1997) Charlotte's Web 2: Wilbur's Great Adventure (2003)
and I worked on this turkey, mainly for a pay check and heath benefits after getting laid off from Hanna-Barbera. The first scene you showed was my work. But from day one, I knew this was going to be a bomb, but everyone involved in this project was treating this film like it was going to be some kind of classic in the Disney mold. You're correct, in that the Attorneys from the Mouse House made frequence visit to the studio while the film was in production to make sure we weren't violating the copyright on their "original" movie. But everything you made reference to, was hilarious and correct. Thank you for doing this. By the way, this film is very difficult to locate on Video here in the US.
Wow, so you were involved with the eldritch-worm-circus-tent thing? I'm sure it wasn't your call, but there had to have been a way to do "mysterious carnival sets up by itself" without dipping into Lovecraft...
@Katie Lewis Yes it is, I saw the DVD at a apartment store in Spain a few years back.
@@MusicalHell Not that scene, but the scene where he's walking with the Music Box and getting accosted by Scallewag and the Monkey.
Wasn't this disaster delayed frequently and was held back from release for 3 years?
If I may ask Mitch, did you know of ‘Tom sito’ I believe he worked on this too?
"Speaking of, what happened to him? Did Pinocchio smash him with a hammer?"
If they want to claim the novel as their source material and not the Disney film, that's exactly what happened.
plz tell bitch i want nutkraker
good reference 2:44
In reality, what I think actually happened is that the folks at Filmation forgot this was supposed to be a sequel part way through development and started making a remake instead.
yep
"Singing, dancing, SUCH Romancing!" - THE BOY IS ONLY A YEAR OLD, you creep!
Is it worse that he is a one-year-old in the body of an eight-year-old?
Either way, *somebody’s* going onto the watch list….
Ok if he was only a year old, why does he walk or talk well?? Ok maybe in puppet years
The one thing that always baffles me about this movie is why the hell the girl puppet wasn't brought to life when the Not Blue Fairy brought Pinocchio back to life after being captured. Sure she would have probably been a generic girl character but she would have at least been a character, instead of a minor plot point at best
My thoughts exactly!! Especially since Willikers spends most of the movie away from Pinochhio, so it's not like the companion role was already filled...
That's what I was thinking too while seeing the opening clips, especially since she was tied up with him and the transformation part seemed to imply that Blondie (gonna call her that for short) was once a human that ended up getting tricked and transmogrified as well. The raccoon and monkey would not have held my interest as a child, and at least with Blondie, Pinocchio has someone his age to interact with.
If they wanted to get more competent with the writing, Blondie could have acted as his mirror since her story would be the reverse of his, a human girl that became a lifeless puppet for god knows how long, and it could show the ramifications, at least mentally, on a human whose gone through the reverse. Instead she's a literal object until the last few minutes of the movie.
And yeah I know her name is stated by Diva but idk, I prefer Blondie to Twinkle.
Bugged me as well. I also couldn't stop thinking about the other puppets in the background. Those probably were humans too. The only explanation I can think of for this (Besides laziness) is that they are sort of stand ins for the pleasure island boys. The ones who got turned into donkeys. A conflict which was never resolved and continued to happen after Pinocchio got away from there. But I don't think such a movie would really think this far.
Congratulations, you put more thought inti the use of a girl character beyond her obligatory part in the happy ending* than most kid's movie teams.
*Because no story can have a happy ending unless the protagonist is paired up with someone of the opposite gender who they could have a romantic relationship and/or kids with somewhere down the line.
Yeah I had the same taught, she could have been given some personality traits something, now she’s just the Reward
(meanwhile on the Muppet show theater balcony)
Statler: Eh, I never liked that Pinocchio kid in this movie.
Waldorf: Yeah, why's that?
Statler: His acting got too WOODEN!
Both: D'OH-HO-HO-HO-HO-HO!
Not to mention he’s a blockhead!
Take a shot everytime a Pinocchio adaptation guilt trips a victim of trafficking.
"If I took a shot every time a Pinocchio adaptation quilt tripped a victim of trafficking, I'd take two shots, which isn't alot, but it's wierd that it's happened twice."
Aw man, why couldn't the Good Fairy bring Twinkle to life a lot earlier, so she could actually be a character and participate in the story?
Because that would be too much of a departure from the source material. Although had Twinkle been given life when the Good Fairy revived Pinocchio, he could have served as the conscience to her while Willikers was away. Best way for Twinkle to come to life would be similar to how she did at the end, stray magic from the Good Fairy either by accident or as a secret test for Pinocchio. Twinkle wouldn't reveal her sentience until the Fairy left but before Pinocchio escaped. He could then take on a more big brother role, leading him to be sympathetic on how Jiminy and Willikers felt when she ends up led astray. Cut down time with the barracuda and keep Bugsburgh minus the frog to add a scene or two of Pinocchio keeping Twinkle out of trouble.
@@motxmod They didn't mind deviating from the source material enough to create her in the first place. Plus, this is theoretically supposed to be a sequel to the original story, not an adaptation of it.
But yeah, I agree, that probably would've been the best way to handle her inclusion. Plus it would've solved the problem of Pinocchio acting like he didn't learn anything from his first adventure!
@@elsie8757 By source deviation, I'm referring to this film being a same plot sequel.
Elsie -- she does seem to have some sort of weird mystical presence, like during the Not Pleasure Island sequence, where her face appears in Pinocchio's drink to warn him off of drinking it.
I thought they were going to have Twinkle be a puppet brought to life (the same as Pinocchio), but Puppetino lured her to him with the promise of freedom, fortune and fame in exchange for recruiting more "actors" to turn into puppets and when she refused, he used his musical puppet-life-sucker-thing to turn her into an actual inanimate puppet and upon the Blue Fairy/Synergy clone reviving the both of them, Twinkle was going to take the place of Scalawag and Igor into pretending to be friends (and in Twinkle's case girlfriend) with Pinocchio to lure him to The Emperor Of The Night in exchange to become a real girl, but along the way befriends and falls in love with Pinocchio for real and ends up helping Pinocchio fight Puppetino and The Emperor.
The Pinocchio is this movie makes me more determined to work on my character design skills in fear of making anything that unintentionally creepy. At least I have reference if I ever need to design a creepy doll character.
In the original story, yes, he DID kill the cricket.
I think she was directly referencing that
I’ll give this movie and Happily Ever After this much credit: At least the art styles in both movies are decent enough to look at (for the most part)
Ditto, it's a shame about literally everything else in this project! 😂
Gappy Peters At least the characters' mouths would move in sync and the scores wouldn't be from public domain properties. *I'm looking at you, Golden Films.*
Certainly looks better than their TV shows.
Both of them killed Filmation.
@Simple Weirdo What kind of cookie do I get? 🙂
Carlo Collodi-Lorenzini: Killed Pinocchio off after fifteen chapters and only continued the story at the request of his tearful young fans.
Filmation: His “Freedom” is now a lynchpin of the Cosmic Order.
Ouch.
Isn't that true of all of us?
I find it funny how some people will cry foul on people who want authors or writers to change the endings to some of there work as a break in there ”artistic integrity” in the modern age. But Authors had been doing such things for hundreds of year's and they are not seen as less as artists. Same applied to Sherlock Holmes author and Hans Christian Andersen.
@@bsnow304 What is true of all of us?
@@brandonlyon730 You couldn’t be bothered to google the name of the author of Sherlock Holmes? It’s Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, by the way.
When you wish upon a star....
Oh wait that's a supernova.
You know, the threat of evil forces weakening the good fairy by turning Pinocchio into a puppet and stealing his freedom really isn’t that effective when he already turned into a puppet earlier on and she was just fine.
Emperor of the Night already voiced by the Emperor of Darkness.
Pinocchio: Let my father go!
EOTN: No, I am your father.
Pinocchio: No.. That's not true.. NOOOOOOOO!!!! NO!!!! NO!
*nose turns into lightsaber*
That would have been hilarious! XD
Emperor: Search your feelings, you know it to be true!
I just dont know what that poor ex puppet girl is going to think. She literally just got sentience therefore doesn't know of all the "fun" times dancing her and Pinocchio had and yet she is literally now the arm candy for this child. Like that actually sounds like the start of a existential horror story.
I believe that Pinocchio recalled his past, so why shouldn't she?
@@KingoftheJuice18 cause she was just a normal puppet for the film not a living one.
@@Vio818 Oh, ok. But then how were they dancing together previously?
@@KingoftheJuice18 I think it is implied she is on a strings cause the film never implies she is alive and imprisoned by the weird guy who runs the show but totally isn't just the puppet master from the original. Cause if that is the case that could be worse cause then they knew she was sentient and did nothing to save her.
@@KingoftheJuice18 I think that was a fantasy sequence
Yo the animation on the emperor guy is actually Super Impressive?? Too good for this movie
That's one thing I will give Filmation. They may have been lacking when it came to writing and originality, but they really shined when it came to their animation (when they weren't recycling it I mean).
So is James Earl Jones’ performance.
The Emperor of the Night is admittedly pretty cool. But I think anybody with a James Earl Jones voice is pretty cool though..
His design is amazing, and he's better animated than anythign else I've ever seen in the Filmation catalogue.
I think him, and his and Pinocchio's final confrontation, are the reasons I loved this movie as a child (and can'tbring myself to hate it even now). The rest is pure dreck, but toss in some Cosmic Good vs. Ultimate Evil magic lights and shadows, and I become trash for it.
@@ingonyama70 I honestly agree. Filmation really brought their A Game with this movie. I never saw this movie as a kid but The Emperor of The Night reminds me of Slaanesh from Warhammer 40k. They both offer pleasure and excess....for a price!
@@wiibrockster Plus the kid who played Pinocchio in this movie would grow up to play Steve in American Dad.
James Earl Jones could read a phone book out loud and make it enjoyable.
@@princessmarlena1359 I know right? That guys voice is divine!
I’m pretty sure I had someone drunkenly sing “Love is the Light Inside Your Heart” to me, and the drunken slurring warble sounded almost exactly like the Blue Fairy.
The fairy's song sounds like a rejected song from Jem and the Holograms.
As someone who has helped to revew THAT ENTIRE SERIES, I'm forced to agree.
I don't think even the live-action Jem movie would feature that on their soundtrack.
Wrong She-ra? Ah well, good enough!
And her design makes her look like she came out of the Bakshi version of 'Lord of the Rings'.
agreed
Can’t wait for your review of The Lion King 2019 remake.
I like to call it *The Circle of Lies*
2020 Mulan is worse.
interestig
@@robbiewalker2831 That, along the 2022 remake of Pinocchio.
I'll give Happily Ever After, credit. It WAS a sequel to the original fairy tale. Like, the story didn't feel like it was just redoing the same thing but worse again. This is just like "what other adventures can a human Pinnochio do? I KNOW it's the SAME adventures but worse."
@Rebecca Woolf I figure Disney was of two minds about their sequels' plots:
1. The story worked so well the first time, give them more the same!
2. There's absolutely nothing in the original story that could lead into a sequel, so just rehash it and the kids will be hooked!
@Rebecca WoolfTo be fair some of the Disney sequels did do something unique on the occasion. Hell Cinderella 3 literally involves time travel.
@@gregorywiederecht At least with a lot of the Disney sequels that rehash the plot of the first movie, it's the main character's _child_ that does the same things/learns the same lesson, not the character themselves doing everything over again
And from what I see in this, the animation here is less stiff compared to Happily Ever After.
Happily Ever After also had better voice acting, songs that fit into the plot better, and a more consistent story with no random scenes that end up having no relevance to the movie as a whole. Plus the role reversal of the Princess having to save the Prince for a change is rather interesting and something you’d think would be extremely common in movies these days since woke culture has made females the hero so common now and are just as capable of saving the day.
7:57 “OK kids the scary part is ov...AAAAHHH!”
I needed that laugh today!
I was absolutely OBSESSED with this movie in fourth grade. Seriously, I was actively driving people away with how much I loved it. (Anyone who knew me back then, I AM SO SORRY)
"Love Is The Light" could have been a really good song, and again, child-me was obsessed with it. (I still have it memorized, believe it or not). In hindsight, as someone mentioned below, it does sound like a lost Jem & the Holograms number, but it's still got a special place in my heart for being unironic, unabashed schmaltz that happened to hit me at JUST the right age to stick. (the song recording's audio quality is donkey-feces, though, I must admit)
Seeing this retrospective, I know now that I was only obsessed with the film's third act. Everything that happens after "The Land Where Dreams Come True" was extremely compelling to child-me and I loved the idea that, no matter how badly you screwed up, you could get a second chance if you worked at it...and made the right friends.
(I was 12, cut me some slack)
I actually really love the design of the Emperor of the Night, and think he makes a much cooler adversary than Puppetino. Yeah, I was less frightened of the giant four-armed evil god than I was of the creepy cackling puppetmaster. Probably because Pinocchio's magic blue Freedom Glow (tm) just seemed awesome to my child self.
Forutnately, over the course of a couple of years I would switch over to a full-time obsession with the X-Men and forget this movie existed for decades afterward.
You sad sad man...
Even if the Emperor of the Night is a clichéd, dull villain who really needs to read his Overlord List, his design is _way_ too good for this movie. (And not really suitable for a figure taking a Sauron or Satan place in the narrative as the Ultimate Evil.)
@@TommyDeonauthsArchives do you have no childhood memories or obsessions, that were kinda cringy in retrospect?
@@TheAlexR96 ...I remember liking the Magic Voyage... oof.
I could see myself being obsessed with this movie if I had come across it at an impressionable age.
Those creepy puppet transformations are giving me legends of oz flashbacks
I don't think Disney sues out of some misguided impression that they can lay claim to public domain works. I think they just sue when another interpretation bears too much resemblence to their own. They don't own the stories, just the elements they create in order to tell them. And frankly, I would be on their side here.
Agreed.
I agree there's nothing wrong with other studios doing their own interpretations of classic Fairy Tales but it's painfully obvious that Filmation was trying to ride Disney's coattails with this movie and Happily Ever After
@@disneyfan94themuppetsforev95 And then a few years later was like, "Hey, we can make our own bad sequels to our old movies that rehash the plot of the original!" :D :D :D
Yeah as much as I dislike Disney (as a company) I kinda see where they were coming from here because this is almost beat for a beat a rip off of their movie
At the time, Disney was litigation crazy back then, any infringement of the copyright of their characters, then they were all over you like a cheese sauce on tater tots. One interesting story that happened while I was at Hanna-Barbera in the early 90's, a nursery school in Florida received a cease and dismiss letter from Disney to paint over their characters that were painted on the outside of their building. So, H-B came to the rescue and sent a couple of artists and painted Scooby-Doo and other HB characters on the school building. Another was a guy who was so in love with Disney, that he tattooed all the Disney characters over his entire body, the Mouse House wanted him to remove them....LOL
Disney: Makes an adaptation of a classic story.
Other company: We could adapt a story...
Disney: NO IT'S MINE!
Other company: But the story is in public domain.
Disney: IT'S MINE!
😂😂😂😂
Fun fact: the voice of Pinocchio is Scott Grimes, who would voice Steve Smith in American Dad and play Gordon Malloy in the Orville.
A-are you serious!?
@@LaineMann Look it up, it's true. Scott's talented now that's grown up, just watch any episode of American Dad where Steve sings and you'll know.
19:20, finally Diva gives a Disney remake the thrashing it deserves!
I can't WAIT!!
Most try not to be musicals. Thankfully this HORRIBLE one was. The king shall die. LONG LIVE THE KING!
This feels like a premise that would have worked a lot better if helmed by Don Bluth.
Then again, the old guy had a major mid-life crisis in the 90s. Then again, this is a 1987 movie, where Bluth was in the process of making Land Before Time.
ok but The Emperor of the Night’s design is just to good for this movie, I love him tbh
Yeah. From what I’ve seen of him on TH-cam, he’s cool, but scary looking.
Fun fact: Scalawag and Igor are voiced by Ed Asner and Frank Welker, who also voiced Scowl and Batso in Happily Ever After. Also from Happily Ever After, we have Jonathan Harris, who voiced the sunflower, and Linda Gary, who voiced two of the Dwarfelles.
Yeah I know
@@srstriker6420 I wrote that for people who don't know.
@@nickcopeland6915 well I didn’t knew that this movie existed
@@srstriker6420 All right.
This sequel definitely had strings that held it down.
I have nothing against animation being surreal and creepy but I feel like a lot of animated movies that were meant for children didn’t understand that you need to know your audience. You can’t make animation for children too surreal and creepy because you’ll lose your intended audience. Hell, I’m an adult and some of the animation this almost gave me nightmares
Absolutely! Kids like fantastical and surreal but on some artistic level it has to be “attractive” to look at for 2 hours. Some of these films are just.....ugly.
I think Filmation was aiming for Secret of Nimh and went way too far...
But children need to be scared
@@TajFaerie Oh yeah a lot of the designs for the characters are really bad
@@TommyDeonauthsArchives Oh they missed by a huge mile
You know, if I wanted to file the serial numbers off the Blue Fairy, i would’ve just had Pinocchio call her “mom”, seeing as in a way she is his mom
Considering that in the original Pinocchio spent some time with her and did consider her his mom (even calling her such), that would be accurate
Pinocchio's only use is saving people locked up in cages through Mission Impossible references
HE-MAN! AND THE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE!
Starring: Skeletor
Rest in Peace, James Earl Jones.
You deserved better than this.
(1931-2024)
2:25: I find their attempts to distance this story from the Disney adaptation _here_ amusing, since the Blue Fairy* was in the original novel rather than being a Disney OC.
*According to Wikipedia, she was formally known as La Fata dai Capelli Turchini, aka the Fairy with Turquoise Hair, but she was frequently referred to as La Fata Turchina (translated as The Blue Fairy). Probably because "Turchi" would be _too_ informal.
Same thing goes for the fox and cat as well
11:11 -- "Stupid Side Quest" -- I once wanted to do a comedy review video of this movie, but never got around to it. At this point, I was going to mention the side quest to Bugburg and say, "And what are we doing in Bugburg?" (Cut to clip of Disney's "Pinocchio.") HONEST JOHN: "We're wasting precious time!"
Fun fact. The voice of Pinocchio is Scott Grimes, the voice of Steve from American dad
Good to know the little guy grew up to be pretty cool. Lord knows Scott can sing as an adult, just watch any episode where they give Steve an excuse to croon.
Little side comment, but I feel like SOME people on the internet would REALLY go crazy for Scallowag. If they haven't already...
Oh believe me they do, you just have to search fur affinity or even search his name up on twitter to find results
I think it’s a sign you’ve been on the internet too long when you develop a sixth sense about which animated characters have a niche but terrifying fan base
Well, since it's October, at least this would make a good semi Halloween movie.
Hack, the plot of this movie alone would be enough to give anyone nightmares, let alone all the nightmare fuel.
Scott Grimes as Pinocchio
James Earl Jones as The Emperor of the Night
Don Knotts as Gee Willikers
Tom Bosley as Mister Geppetto
Rickie Lee Jones as The Fairy Godmother/The Good Fairy
Ed Asner as Scalawag the Raccoon
Frank Welker as Igor the Monkey
Lana Beeson as Twinkle
Linda Gary as Bee-atrice
Jonathan Harris as Lt. Grumblebee
William Windom as Puppetino
Okay, I ADORE the thumbnail art for this episode.
I'm starting to think the people who made this movie actually hate children. For that matter, so does the original ip.
Didn't he just wanna tell kids goe much he disliked them?
You sure about that?
Pinocchio is voiced by Steve Smith. Scott Grimes went from Critters to "This" trainwreck. Let that sink in.
Children need to be scared though
7:57 Diva: "Okay kids, the scary part is ov....AUGH!"
I died laughing
If there is one positive that came from this bomb it’s that Scott Grimes would later voice Steve Smith on American Dad and managed to have a successful acting career.
OMG I can't believe you did this movie. To this day, it still TERRIFIES me. Especially that Emperor. Here is something I just realized though. The Raccoon told Pinocchio when someone loses their freedom, the Fairy Godmother/Blue Fairy would grow weaker and the Emperor would grow stronger. So if the ONLY PUPPET ever to gain his freedom were to lose it....it would be a TERRIBLE blow for the Blue Fairy....maybe even DESTROYING her. HOWEVER.....earlier on in the movie, when The Fairy finds Pinocchio in his puppet form as Puppetino's prisoner...she says "You took your freedom for granted, Pinocchio....AND BECAUSE YOU DID, YOU LOST IT". So WHY then didn't the Emperor destroy her in THAT moment. He had Pinocchio's freedom. Game over. But he allowed the Fairy to restore him to life.
I was about to say the same thing, but I went back to make sure I knew exactly how it had been worded and they technically said when someone *gives up* their freedom and technically Pinocchio didn't give his freedom up but instead had it stolen. Still stupid though.
**curtains part**
🎶🎵”New York to Paris, London to Rome!
Dreamers and dancers, don’t need a home!
Do what I want to, go where I will!
Take what I wish and tear up the bill!
Dreaming and dancing, do what makes you happy! Life of romancing, do what makes you happy! No home to go to, no one to hold you!
Mothers and fathers, get in your way! Don’t let you turn the night into day! Hug you and kiss you, no fun at all! You think I miss them!? My life’s a ball!
Dreaming and dancing, do what makes you happy! Life of romancing, do what makes you happy! No home to go to, no one to hold you!
No one to hold you, now!” **curtains draw**
So, with every other character being a bootleg of a disney character, who is the Emperor of the Night supposed to be?
Maybe the Coachman? I always had a feeling he wasn’t human.
TVTropes pretty much made the comparison to the Coachman. I think because of his satanic nature and luring children with false promises.
Well one good thing came out of the production, Pinocchio voice actor Scott Grimes would go on to voice Steve in the popular show American Dad
Disney doesn’t own the actual story. Just their adaption of it
And that’s why the Public Domain exists
@@srstriker6420 I hope people remember this😅
@@gracekim25 yeah because it’s a good thing
Filmation peaked with He-Man and The Masters of the Universe and She-Ra the princess of Power. They went down the drain after that.
You mean princess of power. The plural one is the reboot
@@gracekim25 Ah thanks for that
Those two shows are honestly the only reason anybody still remembers them (outside of these Disney knockoffs I mean).
I dunno why, but not-blue-fairy’s song sounds like it should be played on the kazoo
So if my math is correct we’ll be opening up 2021 with the 100th episode of musical hell
Perfect way to start a New Year!
You're really doing The Lion King 2019? I can't wait to see how that turns out. And then two episodes later, it will be Cats 2019 as the 100th episode, I hope
I remember seeing commercials up the yin-yang for this as a kid, and, yes, Filmation really did think this was going to be a bug hit. Even the comercials were cringe-worthy.
This and the next case feature James Earl Jones.
We need to do like some kind of Bingo Card of "amazing actors slumming it in awful musicals." Even Diva has lamented some of the amazingly talented repeat offenders that come through this court: Minnie Driver, Alan Cumming, Bernadette Peters, Tim Curry, Dolly Parton...and the free space at the center would have to be poor Jessica Harper. Near as I can tell, she's 0-for-3 on the musical front (Phantom of the Paradise is debatable.)
Hey a paycheck is a paycheck. Just a shame an actor as awesome as James Earl Jones can't be more selective.
Of course I think the same thing 9/10 whenever Tom Kenny and Mark Hamill show up
I was really about to rewind the video to see how exactly pinocchio was transformed back into a puppet and then I realized: I didnt even care. Another great case miss diva!
Ah yes; The Emperor of the Night another childhood movie I remember watching awhile back and back when James Earl Jones was still awesome Instead of what he Is In that Lion King Remake. I knew you review this movie eventually and got my wish as well and thankfully there's also no Coachman In sight (thank god) trying to spook me again just like he sued too. I'm already over that fear now but even got both his head and even King Dice's to prove It!
"I didn't know that I... *clack clack clack*" - Pistachio
The worst part is, there are tiny glimmers of decent concepts in here, but they're overshadowed by the overall plot, the insistence on making it a Pinocchio sequel, and as you pointed out, the implication that our little wooden hero has learned ABSOLUTELY NOTHING from the life-changing (literally) adventure of the first movie only makes it worse. The idea of a battle between the forces of Good and Evil, with the Good Fairy growing stronger when people are good and weaker when they are cruel and selfish, could have been used to great effect even in a Pinocchio sequel. Instead, we got...this movie.
SEE ALSO: The horrible Rankin/ Bass special "Pinocchio's Christmas." Barely skirts around getting sued by Disney too!
It's weird they seem so legally aggressive about Pinocchio of all their movies.
Maybe I'm biased but it just never seemed like one of their best.
It’s honestly a shame that Filmation went down the cash in knockoff route, this movie’s animation shows that the studio had real potential.
Apparently the reason that the Bugzburg scene was included was because Flimation was planning on making a spin off TV show with Grumblebee and Wilikers as main characters. Only two episodes were completed before it was cancelled entirely and was never aired on TV
Pinocchio wasn’t going to be apart of that right??
Diva, your court cases are the highlight of my month ❤
Now I kinda want a story about a female puppet who gets brought to life as a reward for a dude and the goes - "Absolutely not, I have a life now so I'm gonna follow my own desires and do a bunch of stuff I want to do and if I settle down it'll be with someone I choose. Hell if I make her a particular type of doll, I can probably sell it as an R-rated comedy.
Next Case: The Lion King 2019?! !
Me: No!!!!!!!!!! Okay!
I have experience with the Carnival cruise line. I’ve never been on one of their cruises, but I spent a summer working for a tour company that they contracted with for shore excursions. Carnival’s shore excursion agents were always the most difficult to deal with, and I’ll never forget the day they had two of their ships-the Carnival Splendor and the Carnival Spirit-in port on the same day, and they mixed up which ship was at which section of the docks. Absolute chaos.
Seriously, imagine if the Emperor just wanted the Ruby to empower himself into his Ultimate Form and Pinocchio was just the person who happened to hold it and needed to destroy it so the Emperor can be banished from the Mortal Plains.
Those puppets make me think of D’arby’s collection of dolls in jjba
“It comes off like he learned nothing the first time around.”
So what you’re saying is, this is Pinocchio 2: Love Never Dies?
I don't think this one craps on Pinocchio's character the same way Love Never Dies did the Phantom and Christine. He's nice enough, just really naive and easily led astray.
Also beloved heroic characters in the first don't turn into drunken jackasses here.
A better title would be Pinocchio 2: Nightmares Never Die
Personally, I find this movie to be rather tragic. There was definitely potential here, but the film suffers because the folks at Filmation didn't have the stones to actually do their own thing and insisted upon piggy-backing off the coattails of Disney ultimately turning this film into a unholy amalgamation of a sequel and a rehash. They should have either just stuck with the sequel idea entirely or made their own adaptation of the original story, but instead they somehow ended up doing BOTH.
14:55 Let's be real though, the Emperor of the Night is hands-down the best part of this movie.
18:12 That's most fantasy movies with a "Good vs Evil" plot though.
I guess they were so busy wondering whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
Points if you get the reference
I always come to this channel when I'm stressed with school work. Its such a stress reliever. You don't get the attention your channel deserves.
Two of the voice cast were in Pixar movies - Jonathan Harris (a Filmation regular) did "A Bug's Life", Edward Asner had "Up".
It's one sense it's curious that Diva finds the Emperor and Puppetino are creepy. One is a Satan analogy and the other is a diabolical agent. However, Diva is never creepy except perhaps when she's dishing out harsh punishment.
Sometimes what you need to stop yourself from speed reading a book, is a good Musical Hell video
After reading the comments, I get that this movie isn't easy to find in the US . . . . but what's up with the sound? It sounds like they're talking out of a tin can or something like that. Was that the original movie, or just a bad audio quality from someone's copy of it on TH-cam?
13:31-13:49
Why does the footage have a KissCartoon watermark when the rest of the movie video doesn't? Was that scene cut from the whatever source you were using?
If so, should I assume it was because of the implication that Pinocchio is getting drunk from the green liquid?
If I was paying $10, I'd still say that Francis Ford Coppola is still awaiting his ninth-circle judgment in court for "One From The Heart"--
But, if you're just hanging around the cartoons now, Princess & the Frog still has a lot to answer for...Unless you'd rather do "Heidi's Song"?
To be fair, this is about on par with most actual Disney sequels. In fact, this reminded me a lot of the Hunchback sequel.
Bravo Diva, bravo!
PS, have you ever thought of reviewing Strawinsky and the mysterious house?
Thanks for reviewing this bizarre, often-overlooked (with good reason) curio from the Reagan years! Fun fact, Pinocchio is voiced by Scott Grimes from "American Dad". Other thoughts:
1. 1:20... I don't even want to know what that look is.
2. Look, I like Rickie Lee Jones. She's very talented and underrated, "Chuck E.'s in Love" is a classic for a reason, but she's just all wrong as the Blue Fairy. It's bad enough her song is trite as hell, but her voice, while nice, isn't strong enough to make it come alive. Shirley Jones or someone like her could have made "Love is the Light Inside Your Heart" more than the half-assed piffle it is.
3. I appreciate that they TRY to differentiate from the Disney version by having the theme be about appreciating your freedom, but they don't really convey it very well. Maybe the moral should have been listening to good judgment and common sense? Lack of freedom wasn't Pinocchio's problem, it was his inability to learn from past mistakes!
4. Of course Wilikers is an ineffectual twit, what do you expect from a character played by Don Knotts?
5. I'm stealing "plot tumor" for everyday use, so thanks for that!
6. THE EMPEROR OF THE NIGHT!!!! Wow, what a letdown. Got defeated by some puppet running into him.
THAT'S DON KNOTTS?? I had to go back and listen to it before I realized, that's weird...!
After nearly *8* months, I finally made time for the "Pinocchio and the Emperor of the Night" episode.
EDITS- 10:05 P.M.: *finishes episode 24 minutes later*
This movie had better animation than "Happily Ever After".
10:06 P.M.: That has to count for something! 😅
So, wait... the puppet girl Pinocchio has a crush on gets brought to life and... becomes his sister?
Sweet home a place that wasn't mentioned in the Disney version because I can't afford to deal with the house of mouse.
She would only be Pinocchio’s sister if Gepetto had made her as well. Twinkle is more of a trophy wife only she looks like an eight year old girl with bad fashion sense.
I thought the channel uploaded this already then I remembered it was someone else can’t wait to see what she makes of this
Do you know who it was? Because I SWEAR that I've seen someone else review this movie before.
TheNumnutRandomness I know Steve Reviews has done it but I don’t know of anyone else
It’s weird that this movie has odd spurts of good quality animation. Like at times it has a smoothness and bounce evocative of a Don Bluthe film, but the TV quality shading and grating TV quality 80s synth really bring it down.
It’s also clear that they only called it a “sequel” with him as a “real boy” to get around Disney’s copyright, because it is literally just your bog standard retelling of the original story with knockoff characters that you’d usually see.
I saw the original 1940 Disney version ages ago. I would later read the Carlo Collodi original more than a few times. So no one needs to tell me there is a lot of differences between Collodi and Disney. At the end of the book, for instance, the Fox and the Cat are begging for change and destitute, and Pinnochio rebuffs them.
I'm not gonna lie I loved this movie as a kid and it scared the hell outta me lmao. I still have the VHS of this and love the nostalgia no matter how cheesy,creepy and weird as hell this movie is lmao...its a hidden gem ;)
I remember thinking that if the bad guys got their own dates (or girls) in the end that it would be a perfect movie for Valentine's Day
But...sorry y'all but I liked this movie
A cashgrab that pushes itself as something new yet is just the same thing we've seen before that stars James Earl Jones? Where have I heard that before?
12:31 - So not just content in ripping of Disney, Filmation also wanted to throw in a bit of Roger Moore-era James Bond too.
I'd just like to point out that "alouette" is the French word for "lark," so that's like having a pet macaw named Parrot.
I didn’t know that…..🤔
So pinocchio is one year old and twinkle was just born but somehow they expect us to think it's cute that he loves her. It's Romeo and juliet with seals all over again.
Not to mention this movie’s definition of “beautiful” is rather questionable as Twinkle doesn’t look even remotely pretty at all and just looks so bland. Her clothes are too plain, her hair is just there, and the scarf tied around her head makes me think it’s hiding a huge bald spot the size of a baseball with the way it is positioned.
This was a great review, Diva! And I can’t wait for the next court case to get punished big time! It really deserves it.
Did the Emperor of the Night take over the Midnight Carnival after Mommy Fortuna got et by the harpy?
"IIIIIII HELD YOUUUUUUU!!!!!!"
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Charlotte's Web 2: Wilbur's Great Adventure (2003)
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@@jacobbelow4136 I know. These are just the movies I want her to review in the future.
@@rezalustig6773 Eh...no, the one from Crayola and Hallmark.
What’s your bet that Cats is the 100th review?
On the upside, Guillermo Del Toro would give us a vastly superior Pinocchio movie a few years after this review. Just as good as the Disney one, even!