Which Is Better? A John Deere Late Generation II Tractor Or The NewHolland Genesis Series Tractors?
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- This video is about which is better? A John Deere new generation II tractor or the newholland genesis series tractors?
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Love the old genesis machines, my brother had an 8970 and I had an 8770. We bought them both with bad transmissions and then went through them ourselves. As someone who has had both genesis and the sound guard series Deere, I can say that I would rather spend the day in the NH over the Deere by a large margin. The NH is nicer to run in every way, although if you are doing a lot of heavy pulling the Deere transmission will out last the NH. At least if you do much shifting up and down under heavy load. If you do a side by side fuel consumption comparison you will find that the NH will use MUCH less fuel per hour doing the same job. So they do each have pros and cons.
Enjoyed the video.
I like all tractors, as long as it is 30 years old, nothing beats old big TW Fords, JD 7020'S, MF 1200, big Internationals etc etc, today's stuff is made to make the dealer rich, nice video
I grew up with Massey Ferguson tractors drove about everything under 100hp 200 series and older. I really like my 31 year old 1990 Massey Ferguson 3070. Great tractors.
It's nice to see another New Holland guy my favorite feature of the Genesis series is that is also why I love the Tg series 2
JD guy here, but you have to admit that before the new 00 series they had completey missed the train of modernity. I spent my youth in these relics of another age and when we finally got a 6010 series in the 90's it was a whole new world. It's good how they started with a clean slate and made probably the best series ever, they are still better than what most brands offer today in terms of mechanical tractors.
Really love the older equipment. Especially Ford/New Holland.
Having driven most makes of tractors ,they all have there problems, but if I have to choose one new Holland is more technically advanced and a very comfortable to drive long hours. Easy to maintain day to day. But I still like John Deere for reliable. Regards Bevan 🤠🇦🇺
I didn't bother to look up the specs but I'd bet the JD out performs the NH where it counts: drawbar pull. The cosmetics are just that:cosmetics. NH has some convenience and serviceability advantages but I also see some advantages in the JD. Mechanical versus electronic controls I prefer:have yet to see a mouse chew through a steel hydraulic control valve..... I have an assortment of utility series tractors: NH,JD,Ford,Case,Yanmar,JD's made by Yanmar.NH is by far the easiest to get on and off of. JD 1250 made by Yanmar is crazy fuel efficient(set a record in testing) New to me JD 5320 has A/C but I'm still going through it and have to replace the $538.00 JD water pump.Yanmars are just bare bones basic work tractors for small tasks. Ford 2910 is a spray tractor and that series was and is known for sticking clutch issues so you have to use a stick to depress clutch if idle for any period of time.As you said all tractors have the advantages and disadvantages and it's pretty much personal preference.
They aren’t in the same horsepower or weight range. I’d say the Deere would win. A better genesis to compare would be an 8870 or 8970
Your wrong nothing beats a genesis
Very informative video, keep up the good work.
Comfort and convenience are extremely important, I think a lot of people discount that but if I'm comfortable I'll spend more hours in the tractor even after a long day with the cows. Instead of going in for the night it's like resting to put in a couple more hours.
Have a 1995 Ford 8670 No charge air cooler and it has cable hydraulic levers just like the one you have does just broke a cable last week morning hay showed it in video. But I do like my genesis series tractor just don't want people mislead.
It’s whatever that is priced correctly and works but I’m partial to case. I love my 2390
genesis one of the best series of tractor ever in my opinion but unfortunately just like the magnums there gone
I agree give me a brand new 8970 with zero hours zero emissions add hydraulic auto steer and I would pay more than I would for any of the new tractors out today.
Totally agree I have a 8770 that is in great shape and would like another one
They're not gone...buy used and fully restore as new 😅
My family only really use John Deere. But I don't mind to mechanical transmission in our John Deere, 4650 and 4955!
We had a much smaller John Deere 3010 gas tractor and you couldn’t kill it!
Out here in western Oregon john deere had a very good store called fisher implement sold lots of tractor that are still used today I think both tractor are good but all about the dealership in your area
Nice job. Very clear. 👍🏼
I'M A FORD ,NEW HOLLAND MAN!!!!!
The 8670 is the only one that had a 540 pto, government mandated for horsepower in that era
As bad as I hate to say it but the J.D. will bring 60 grand today and the New Holland will bring half of that. The same with any other brand compared to the J. d. By no way is the deere better but will bring more money today.
If you had to choose between the tg210 and the 8670, which would you choose? Would be nice to hear a comparison from someone who has both, thanks!
I agree with what your saying but your comparing a model on its way out to a new model the 70 series where a great tractor but the 7 thousand series deere were twice the tractor
i love both of them but I love John Deere
The 8970 does have the option of 540 small 1000 and big 1000
Does the 8670 have the supersteer front axle
Yes it’s does.
so true
I got into fixing,flipping or keeping tractors and heavy equipment as a "stress relieving hobby" several years back.Only tractor I ever bought new is a New Holland TC55DA.Got 64 acres of rough land in East Texas and I use an assortment of the tractors I kept along with dozer,TLB,crawler loader,dump truck etc up there for improvement and maintenance projects.Because of the profit I made selling equipment I fixed the net cost of what I've kept is very minimal. Think buy 3 tractors,fix all 3,sell 2 and so on. The era I prefer is from late 1970's to early 1990's: original condition(not restored) used units are fairly inexpensive and parts are 90% readily available on major manufacturer brands for models with decent production numbers.Heavy electronics I hate :insulation breaks down,too many "field fixes" in the past,forget finding replacement circuit boards,etc.Basic mechanical controls can be repaired basically forever.
When getting deep into internals of drive trains there is a difference in quality between manufacturers: thicker gears,more robust bearings,bearings instead of sleeves and bushings,thicker castings: that sort of thing.Even something as simple as seals is different: some use real cup seals and some use a compressed O ring.
For robust original design and build I'll irritate most everyone and rate them from best to not so best:
JD and International:tied
New Holland (post Ford)
Massey Fergusson
Ford
Case(weak gears trains)
On new tractors I tell anyone who asks your money,your choice. On used equipment I suggest any unit they can afford to purchase and repair with the list I gave as a general guide.
Most important thing to determine what tractor to get is what will it be used for: don't buy a 200HP tillage tractor if all you'll be doing is mowing with a 15' batwing shredder. Don't buy a 100HP utility tractor if you're going to be pulling a 8 bottom breaking plow over 300 acres.
Interesting! Thanks for the info. 👍
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That hew holland has a better cab an tighter steering but the deere will out pull that nh all day!
Kinda unfair using the 70 series for comparison lol.
Not really Genesis come out in 93 and the 8000 didn't come out till 95
It is kind of unfair lol kinda like taking in my opinion one of the best tractors ever made and comparing it to a turd! Love the new John Deere R series though!
Very interesting is the Deere 18mph 30kph top speed what is the new Holland ? 18mph 30kph would be to slow for my needs and put me right off
18 mph for the North American model. They manufactured the same New Holland Genesis models for the European market with 18 speeds topping out at over 25 mph. Dutch guy down here in north central Indiana has imported 3 8970s to get the higher road speed tractors for his custom manure and silage hauling business.
@@farminstoltzfus we also have 19 speed models here in Europe that exceed 30mph
The genesis will do 21mph
Where did you get the boxes on the front
We bought our rock boxes from a company I think called Renville from over in Minnesota.
@@organicpaulguy thank you
John Deere had a big advantage over everyone in the early years up into the 1980 with there hydraulic's. But everyone has caught up with them now
He should heart this comment
The new John Deere’s are junk
You are gonna in the future have more electronic problems with that nh compared to the Deere. The Deere is more mechanical and can still wrench and fix yourself.
So at that time new Holland were way ahead of John deere.i never liked them old John deere cabs,you,d go cross eyed in them.
When your comparing tractors 30 years old that dosent even work they have had so much upgrades in 30 years (good video though)
As far as I’m concerned and for the record I have all 4 genesis tractors! There are positives to one thing or another always has been and always will but now in 2020 tractors no matter the color are basically the same. I’ve had a John Deere 7250r before and it was to light for the horsepower.
You could use some land clearing up one day soon
Good video, is the john deere in the same hp bracket as the 8970🤔 the New Holland certainly a much shorter tractor 👍👍👍
Yep both are 200 engine hp.
Hey there tractors they both work
Jd is better built
It what u can afford
New holland 8970 has big thousand rpm PTO only
You can get a small thousand
Not a fair apples to apples comparison at all. Need to have a JD 8000 or 7000 series. 70’s generation vs mid 90’s. Come on dude.
The point is the genesis was way ahead of there time
That’s what deere had at the time
A 7000 series is totally what u need to be comparing that new Holland to. This is stupid.
I should had a NewHolland 8970 which is comparable in horsepower and age to the 4960. It is a good general comparison of what John Deere and NewHolland had for high horse row crop tractors at the time. I borrowed the idea from this video: th-cam.com/video/qlGw2y7xNjA/w-d-xo.html
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