What's the Deal with 18th Century Wigs? (and why Bridgerton really messed this up)

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  • @nicoleranulf3027
    @nicoleranulf3027 ปีที่แล้ว +1279

    Your analysis of George's wig as a symbol of the split between his public and private personae is spot on. This is yet another example of creators not trusting the audience to enter fully into the period, as if these characters would be wholly unrelatable to viewers without beach waves and lip gloss.

    • @ReneesatItAgain
      @ReneesatItAgain ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But he ends up wearing the wig in the end(s).....

    • @rebeccaclark1407
      @rebeccaclark1407 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Beach waves 😂 but it's so true

    • @Shenanakins
      @Shenanakins ปีที่แล้ว +46

      they CANT trust bridgertons audience. season 1 got so much backlash online over anthony's sideburns and Daphne's short bangs that they stopped trying to make it accurate to the time period and embraced its anachronism so they decided NOT to trust the audience. the audience was begging to not be trusted.

    • @nicoleranulf3027
      @nicoleranulf3027 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@Shenanakins Fair point, though I would assert Bridgerton's costuming, hair and makeup were never that historically accurate. Backlash for sideburns and tiny bangs aside, the sheer scale of the show's fanbase is proof that the audience can be trusted to connect with the characters, because of the strength of the writing and acting. All I was trying to say is that modern hair and makeup aren't necessary to help an audience relate to period characters. The Bridgerton phenomenon proves the audience will follow these characters everywhere, even if they complain about the bangs being tiny and the sideburns...not so much. 🙂

    • @Julie.Canada
      @Julie.Canada ปีที่แล้ว

      💯

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. ปีที่แล้ว +1092

    I was surprised at the lack of wigs and makeup on a GEORGIAN MONARCH! It’s History 101: Privileged Men were out there being extra.

    • @lucie4185
      @lucie4185 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Yeah we just saw a king being crowned and he wore a 4lb gold embroidered coat. Like the 18th century was all peak male peacocking extravaganza and a 20th century man out-blinged him.

    • @ryan7864
      @ryan7864 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      But this show isn't history.

    • @sweethistortea
      @sweethistortea ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@ryan7864 If you have real people in the show, the show should try to make the person look accurate to their real life counterpart. Assass!ns Creed can do it no problem.

    • @ryan7864
      @ryan7864 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@sweethistortea they race swapped actual historical characters. Why are you expecting accuracy?

    • @kathleendoodles698
      @kathleendoodles698 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      How else would people know you were rich if you didn't wear ridiculous clothing?!

  • @sArnoldsdotter
    @sArnoldsdotter ปีที่แล้ว +450

    The "the audience can't relate to a character with silly (a.k.a. non contemporary) hair" trope is one of my biggest pet peeves, and usually lead to jarring feelings and not believing the world. I watched the Swedish mini series 'Gustav III:s äktenskap' (The Marriage of Gustavus III) from 2001, and on the whole, they used wigs cleverly. The men at court wore them at all times, except in the most private of moments. The king was only shown wigless in moments where he was at his most vulnerable, with his closest family and confidantes. Over all, it worked brilliantly.

    • @Aurora-bx4wn
      @Aurora-bx4wn ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It's been many years since I saw the series but I think I remember a scene where Gustaf III reacts to the death of his baby son, crying and ripping his wig off in slow motion (his own wig, not the ḱid's, like Abby I doubt that babies wore wigs in the 1700s ;-) )... that was kind of an overused old 18th century movie trope already back in 2001 but anyway, yes they did use the wigs cleverly in the series.
      By the way, as far as I know, the real Gustaf III didn't wear wigs. Unfortunately I can't remember where I heard or read this but apparently he still had all his long, ash blonde hair left on his head when his grave was opened in the 19th or 20th century.

    • @sweethistortea
      @sweethistortea ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ooo, I need to find this and watch it.

    • @viatrix03
      @viatrix03 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For some reason, just that description makes me want to watch it.

    • @adrianjohnson7920
      @adrianjohnson7920 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      John Malkovich wearing various wigs, or his own "natural" hair unpowered in a queue in "Dangerous Liaisons," turned a guy who's not conventionally good-looking into a strikingly handsome figure of a man. Of course the elegant clothes helped.
      Several women have told me that they thought he was really hot in that role.

    • @VideoMask93
      @VideoMask93 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Another good use of wiglessness (as opposed to not using a wig) in a movie was Archie Cunningham's wig in Rob Roy, where he takes it off before the final duel to show he means business.

  • @fantasylovemagic
    @fantasylovemagic ปีที่แล้ว +879

    Omg the ripping the wig off as a form of storytelling between King and George IS GENIUS I LOVE IT

    • @laurar.4484
      @laurar.4484 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      This would have added so much! It had not occurred to me but you are so right!

    • @lady14bug
      @lady14bug ปีที่แล้ว +59

      He could've been holding his wig during their meet cute further explaining why she wouldn't expect to be speaking to royalty. Another distinction between her meeting George, but marrying the king!

    • @Chaotic_Pixie
      @Chaotic_Pixie ปีที่แล้ว +29

      So would be wiping off makeup (which they did wear)... it's actually a super obvious plot device that I am SHOCKED was missed.

    • @Chaotic_Pixie
      @Chaotic_Pixie ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@lady14bug my idea was meeting her sans the wig... he snuck out while getting ready... he's on his private grounds, he can do what he likes. And then her seeing him in the wig at the alter... and reality sets in. Or at least, starts to.

  • @abbypayne4496
    @abbypayne4496 ปีที่แล้ว +923

    I’m glad I’m not the only one who didn’t love George’s super casual hair!

    • @AbbyCox
      @AbbyCox  ปีที่แล้ว +130

      That hair and the embroidered suit just made me so sad, at least give us something 🤣

    • @amaeve1950
      @amaeve1950 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It drove me nuts!

    • @mvega6
      @mvega6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You weren’t the only one it bugged me so bad

    • @ericalbany
      @ericalbany ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@AbbyCox Funny thing is that by the time George IV was coronated the wig look was out and he was wearing his own hair...followed by a succession of wigs that were supposed to look real.

    • @crystalrickett2302
      @crystalrickett2302 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought it was odd as well

  • @sianthesheep
    @sianthesheep ปีที่แล้ว +570

    Modern hairstyles (along with modern make up) are my pet peeves in period dramas! I'd love to ask a film maker why they do this. I suspect it's because they think it looks so different to to contemporary hair it won't make the characters as 'relatable' to modern audiences where as I my experience is modern hair and make-up feels jarring and makes it so much harder for me to engage with the characters and storyline.

    • @HaHaHaLMFAOtv
      @HaHaHaLMFAOtv ปีที่แล้ว +30

      for me too! Also not sticking with the original material. to me Keira Knightly playing Anna Karenina will always be a huge pet peeve because Anna is big and voluptuous woman, and Keira is not 🤷

    • @DragonriderEpona
      @DragonriderEpona ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/abBy-9jH9BE/w-d-xo.html don't know if youtube will allow this link

    • @akechijubeimitsuhide
      @akechijubeimitsuhide ปีที่แล้ว

      Modern hairstyles in a period drama are the gateway to shitty modern dress Regietheater. Fuck both. I go to the theatre to see pretty costumes and a lot of stabbing.

    • @aeolia80
      @aeolia80 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Oh man!!! The new French film about Madame du Barry with Johnny Depp (haven't seen it yet but it's heavily advertised here in France), is soooo weird with this. The actress that plays du Barry is also the writer and director. Always, most of the ensemble cast look decent, and the background actors look decent, heck, even Johnny Depp looks decent, not historically accurate and heavily stylized, but you still get the feeling of the 1760/70s. But the main actress, Maïwenn, omg, lol, some of her costumes look like they were from Alibaba or Shein and she was always wearing her hair down or a bit more modern with modern makeup. It just doesn't make sense, lol, worse situation than Dakota Johnson doing Persuasion, lol

    • @linpollitt8950
      @linpollitt8950 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      My chosen era is the 1940s. When you see a female in a wartime movie with a smoky eye and a long fringe it ruins it for me.

  • @ZaydaFleming
    @ZaydaFleming ปีที่แล้ว +359

    Charlotte complaining about her whalebones stays had me screaming, and I knew when I saw George with that Hair that I would be seeing at least 1 historical costumer say “WTF” in a YT video. Been looking forward to it really. I did watch one interview where they said he had shaved his head right before auditioning for the role so that might explain why his hair was so bad in terms of length, but he definitely should have been wearing a wig for his very formal appearances - Wedding, coronation, the parties, and him taking off the wig in the carriage on his way to address parliament could have been another really good cue for the audience to know that he was cracking.

    • @linguisticsnerd433
      @linguisticsnerd433 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      And like imagine complaining or even mentioning the materials of your underwear to your brother

  • @KayHodz
    @KayHodz ปีที่แล้ว +155

    I don't even like that hair style in modern contexts! He's a handsome man and it does nothing for him.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. ปีที่แล้ว +360

    Abby adding a dash of political commentary and a heaped teaspoon of witticism about the French government and then flambéing it is sublime.

  • @SunnyMorningPancakes
    @SunnyMorningPancakes ปีที่แล้ว +200

    Women barristers and judges also wear wigs. Apparently a new looking wig shows that you are new/inexperienced, so after purchasing an incredibly expensive wig younger barristers will then throw it around the room and kick it across the floor to appear more experienced.
    I was told this by a law student - and I don't even care if it is apocryphal .

    • @C.G.Hassack
      @C.G.Hassack ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting. This is... or was, the way of it with hats in Australia. An Australian would NEVER be seen in a 'new' looking hat, unless you were the 'boss'. For the same reason, you are a new chum, or up yourself.

    • @--enyo--
      @--enyo-- ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I can’t speak for the new wig thing, but in Australia as well women lawyers and judges wear wigs in at least some circumstances. I live near the Melbourne law courts and see men and women walking around in the full robes and wig get up all the time.

    • @vonibrown923
      @vonibrown923 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@--enyo-- … same thing in Adelaide… I worked as a receptionist/audio typist for a few years & wigs plus the robes were worn.. I had to package a barristers wig to be mailed back for repairs .. & boy are they costly as well as the formal robes etc to buy..( my eldest did a double degree & after the 4 years there was some huge expenses for the ceremony wigs robes etc that needed to be worn..

    • @JB-vd8bi
      @JB-vd8bi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@Enyo the circumstances are high court or federal court IIRC and NSW courts are pretty big on court attire

    • @mishadasari
      @mishadasari ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@vonibrown923 oh hello fellow Adeladian 👋

  • @jordanolberding7555
    @jordanolberding7555 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Totally agree! Even if they didn’t want to go the wig route, they could’ve at least done something fancier than the “two month grown out buzz cut”

    • @raquelveloz2481
      @raquelveloz2481 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      In an interview, the actor mentioned he had shaved off all his hair during the audition process (unclear why). The director was very concerned that Corey wouldn’t grow his hair out in time before shooting. So the haircut we’re seeing is all he managed to grow out before they started filming

    • @splendidcolors
      @splendidcolors 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@raquelveloz2481 Even if they thought Georgian era historically accurate wigs would have weirded out a contemporary audience, they could've given him a modern wig intended to look like enough of his own hair to style in a flattering manner.

  • @mellisartandcrafts
    @mellisartandcrafts ปีที่แล้ว +119

    I attented a museum tour a few weeks ago about fashion between 1700 and 1950s. And they told us, everyone wore wigs and they all had lice. At this point I knew the tour wasn't a good idea 😅 They later also told us, woman had their ribs taken out around 1900 to be able to wear corset...I was a little shocked to hear those things in an actual museum😮

    • @HosCreates
      @HosCreates ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Sounds like an ill informed terrible museum !

    • @maryhamric
      @maryhamric ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oh my....

    • @AlexaFaie
      @AlexaFaie ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Women did take their ribs out. It was just that one of the terms for the boning in corsets was "rib" and you'd take the bones out of corsets sometimes to wash them or to replace broken ones. Also the source of all the crap saying corsets caused you to break ribs. Like yeah, if baleen dries out too much it becomes brittle and snaps (its basically like fingernails). That snapping would tend to happen when applying force during the lacing up stage. So like its not entirely wrong, just they didn't realise there was another meaning to the word rib. Plus they based knowledge on now thoroughly debunked xrays of subjects wearing corsets trying to prove they cause problems. Turns out that the xrays were of dead bodies with stuffed lungs and rotated vertebrae (on account of being a collection of body parts). In one instance the xray combines two or more images into one so the pelvis is on back to front. And that's what museums taught from.

  • @DipityS
    @DipityS ปีที่แล้ว +83

    The character does look undressed without a wig - even people who don't know the history like myself - have seen enough portraits to feel the suit he's wearing goes naturally with a wig - or hat - or something. You just know something's missing.

    • @petloverspy
      @petloverspy ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I think he looks especially messy because a lot of the other men in the show actually DO have neat/long/period-inspired hair. Reynolds and Brimsley, Charlotte’s brother, Parliament - their hair is not what we would see in a modern setting, except the brother’s hair but his is very *neat*. George’s hair is honestly messy. I know the actor hadn’t fully grown his hair back out yet but why not get a natural looking wig to cover it? It’s not at all uncommon for actors to wear wigs during filming especially shortly after shaving their hair, actresses especially do this a lot I think.
      I’m not dissing the growing-out style in general, nothing wrong with it. But when it’s in stark contrast to the rest of the characters, and it’s on the politically most important character who is specifically hiding ill health and wants to/is told to appear strong and normal, it’s completely out of place.

  • @E42545
    @E42545 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    Binging all of The Great was a gleefully welcomed relief after watching this. *THAT* is anachronistic historical fantasy done right, and the attention to detail in the costumes, hair, and makeup was incredible. They modernized what made sense to fit the anachronism in the writing, and included accuracy that most historical film/tv doesn’t, down to tie on pockets, mouche placement, hairpieces, and male grooming.

    • @sonjaimmonen6610
      @sonjaimmonen6610 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I was just thinking about the wigs in The Great and how they do portray how the wigs were a part of a uniform and court dress.

    • @E42545
      @E42545 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@sonjaimmonen6610 right?? They were utilized SO well as part of character development

    • @Goremaid
      @Goremaid ปีที่แล้ว

      I was gonna say! it feels like The Great also uses wigs as a symbol of masking almost? when Peter and company are being truthful to themselves and not trying to live up to expectations, there seems like less wigs except for formal occasions.

  • @toffeefuchs
    @toffeefuchs ปีที่แล้ว +166

    I haven't finished the video yet, but I felt the need to comment that I very nearly spit the water I was drinking all across the room when hearing women are "moist and leaky". What a gem of a phrase and I will bring that little bit of fact up in any conversation I can this week.

  • @fantasylovemagic
    @fantasylovemagic ปีที่แล้ว +54

    The whole time I had the LOTR 'do you wear wigs ? Have you worn wigs ? Will you wear wigs ? When will you wear wigs ?' sound in my head 😂😭♥️

    • @AbbyCox
      @AbbyCox  ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I can’t believe I forgot about that meme DAMNIT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HILARIOUS 😭

    • @fantasylovemagic
      @fantasylovemagic ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AbbyCox right ? 😭😂 When you said 'he was not wearing wigs' the meme immediately came to mind 😂

    • @Aniselfairy
      @Aniselfairy ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too!!!! I had that in my head the entire time!!

  • @allie9855
    @allie9855 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    1. Also hated the hair cut.
    2. I absolutely LOVE your idea for using it to tell king vs George. I'm actually super bummed now that it didn't happen 😢

  • @linpollitt8950
    @linpollitt8950 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I agree. George III is an iconic figure, you always imagine him in a powdered wig. In fact all the gentlemen should have worn them, including the footmen. By the time of the Regency wigs were unfashionable for younger men so it hasn't been a problem for the other Bridgerton series' but this one is set much earlier so it is jarring. As I was watching it I thought 'Ooh, Abby won't like that!'

    • @clod8
      @clod8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They’re trying to make him a Byronic hero, like every other lead man in the past 200+ years.

  • @mandycollins8795
    @mandycollins8795 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    I'm convinced someone who works on Bridgerton purposefully does stuff like this to piss off Historical CosTubers

    • @AbbyCox
      @AbbyCox  ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Nah, it’s just them following their vision and overall I always like to see how bridgerton mixes historical and fantasy aesthetic together. His hair was just…weird. Lol

    • @marthabjo
      @marthabjo ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@AbbyCox this! For me the issue wasn’t so much Modern Hair (although I’d have loved to see him wear a wig), as much as it wa such BAD Modern Hair😬

    • @ReneesatItAgain
      @ReneesatItAgain ปีที่แล้ว

      He did wear the wigs in the end(s).

    • @ReneesatItAgain
      @ReneesatItAgain ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marthabjo I see this point better.

    • @SoSodawgindahouse
      @SoSodawgindahouse ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@AbbyCoxo y’all not realize it was not supposed to be historically accurate ? They literally said it at the start of the show. And thank god he’s not wearing no awful wig otherwise none of us would have watched it

  • @rachelshaferly5524
    @rachelshaferly5524 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I really like the points you made about the wig being used for story telling. I really loved the costumes in Hulu's show called Harlots because in private scenes the men did not have wigs but when out of the bedroom the men wore wigs. One of the brothel madams wore a wig to show strength and health and to me it seemed to show her above her "girls." I also just enjoy the story and drama in the show I recommend it if you haven't seen it and maybe it could spark a video. ❤❤

    • @AbbyCox
      @AbbyCox  ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I loved harlots! It was so good

  • @meagannavarre7228
    @meagannavarre7228 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I’ve only seen clips from Queen Charlotte and I was so taken aback by George’s hair when I first saw him. He looks waaaaaaay too modern to be a part of the story they are telling.
    The “What a man” cut had me in stitches though. 🤣

    • @SmallBobby
      @SmallBobby ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes!! the What a man cut was perfection!! 😂

  • @sofiaoutandabout
    @sofiaoutandabout ปีที่แล้ว +29

    King George, do you wear wigs? Have you worn wigs? Will you wear wigs? When will you wear wigs?
    ... is all that kept running through my brain.

  • @cafialena
    @cafialena ปีที่แล้ว +39

    This is so spot on... when I first saw him I was like, well, they're in the gardens, maybe he'll look nicer for the actual wedding but then... NOPE! And it's not even a good looking modern hairstyle either like you're just setting the poor guy up to fail. Especially next to Charlotte's incredibly elaborate hairdos

    • @austinsilvamota5703
      @austinsilvamota5703 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This! I hoped the lack of fancy hair would be one reason she didn't recognize him as king in the garden--because what guy (much less king!) would look that scruffy on his wedding day?

    • @luma4902
      @luma4902 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@austinsilvamota5703 a guy with problem that no one wants to marry?

  • @DrPapillon
    @DrPapillon ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This is one of the things that i loved about "the great" in certain scenes peter would wear a wig or not depending on event, activity, and whatever characters were around

  • @ThildasBeinhaus
    @ThildasBeinhaus ปีที่แล้ว +116

    I'm pleasently suprised how they don't shy away from wigs in HBOs The Great. It also suits the characters well.

    • @ResaChiic
      @ResaChiic ปีที่แล้ว +21

      also for Our Flag Means Death. that show has no need to be historically accurate and yet that episode of French aristocrats is full of men in wigs xD

    • @melowlw8638
      @melowlw8638 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@ResaChiic what do u mean no need to be historically accurate?? isnt it set in the 1700s too??

    • @ResaChiic
      @ResaChiic ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@melowlw8638 technically it is, but its also comedy show and most comedies dont need historical accuracy, but they decided to keep it, which is why it's surprisingly pleasant 8D

  • @nataliestanchevski4628
    @nataliestanchevski4628 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    As a migraine sufferer I can say that for me, shorter hair triggers fewer migraines. Long hair is heavy and pulls on my scalp. But hats, hair bands, or kerchiefs also compress my scalp and trigger migraines. I assume wigs would be just as bad as those.

    • @werelemur1138
      @werelemur1138 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I went from long hair to a bob a few years ago due to referred pain from TMJ.

    • @kaquinn8971
      @kaquinn8971 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I get headaches from ponytails, but because my wig bands press a different area of my head, sometimes it actually helps with headaches.

    • @rachael8087
      @rachael8087 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Shout-out to fellow migraine sufferers 🫡

    • @TheAmocca
      @TheAmocca ปีที่แล้ว

      And now I have an urge to cut off my long hair and see if that would help with my constant headaches.... hmmmmm

  • @gachenderson1905
    @gachenderson1905 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Abby, You are a daughter historian after my heart. As a reenacter/living historian since 1988, an old lady of 65 and a retired history teacher; I adore your videos. You and Nicole have reignited my historical sewing flame. I have been quilting for the last few years for charities and just purchasing ready made dresses for events. I am so excited every time I see a new video. I have watched some more than once as I also collect 1800's clothing, shoes, and bonnets/hats. Living in England for three years helped with that collection. But I digress. You are an incredibly smart, vivacious orator and I love your videos. Keep yourself centered and know that you are admired by a crusty old historybum in Texas. With much admiration, Grace Henderson

  • @claraspringman9784
    @claraspringman9784 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I understand the lack of a wig for aesthetic reasons because it’s bridgerton, but honestly he could have at least had long hair, that’s certainly not unfashionable these days and it could have differentiated between the bridgerton eras

    • @AbbyCox
      @AbbyCox  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      exactly! Like do I care that brimsley and Reynolds didn’t have wigs? No. Why? They had longer hair. It’s the vibes we needed. 😤

    • @raquelveloz2481
      @raquelveloz2481 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AbbyCox In an interview, the actor mentioned he had shaved off all his hair during the audition process (unclear why). The director was very concerned that Corey wouldn’t grow his hair out in time before shooting. So the haircut we’re seeing is all he managed to grow out before they started filming

  • @sibauchi
    @sibauchi ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The S1 Bridgerton costume designer mentioned that she hates bonnets so she didn't put in any. Although the Queen Charlotte designers are different people, I won't be surprised if they loathed wigs. Which unfortunately seems widespread among the general public as well, and since Bridgerton aims for mass appeal I guess that's why the wig was canned for the romantic hero... but it does make him look jarring and awkward especially in official ceremonies. At first I thought he lost his wig lol

    • @AbbyCox
      @AbbyCox  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Literally every background actor and most supporting characters had wigs and QCs wigs were INCREDIBLE. Wigs are so common in productions cause they help maintain continuity, so it’s def not that they didn’t want to. There was some choice made down the road for George, and it could have been anyone.

    • @luma4902
      @luma4902 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly i think he is suppose to look out of place because of his problems no one wanted to marry him

  • @Historyofstitchery
    @Historyofstitchery ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Okay, but dipping for wigs is the funniest concept. It’s like the rubber duckies at the fair, or mystery bags. (but with most unfortunate consequences because the poor guy probably didn’t have expendable resources to get a new one, so he would be stuck looking like manny the mammoth with too small hair.)

    • @phoenixfritzinger9185
      @phoenixfritzinger9185 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It’s a very last day of the anime convention activity, like 50% off just this bunch of random wigs that you don’t want to have to pack up again

    • @DawnDavidson
      @DawnDavidson ปีที่แล้ว

      @@phoenixfritzinger9185 😂😂😂

  • @Ragdollsandroses
    @Ragdollsandroses ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Excellent video! I have not been interested in the Queen Charolette series at all, which was a surprise because I adore her in Bridgerton. And girl… THIS IS WHY. I didn’t realize what about it was so off putting, but in the preview George walked in and I was already checked out of their story. I get that Bridgerton is trying to strike a specific balance of modern/historical/fantasy/realism. But that haircut alone tipped the scales and all whimsy was lost on me.

    • @kahkah1986
      @kahkah1986 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In contrast to Marie Antoinette, who at least made something of a gallant stab at getting the male hair long and tonged

  • @suef9204
    @suef9204 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Entirely agree with everything in this! Especially the possibility of the juxaposition between private and public persona and the missed opportunity. I appreciated the series as drama, but the lack of a wig on his head was the thing that most drew me out of this whole thing. Missed opportunity.

  • @threeleggedcat
    @threeleggedcat ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Genuinely 100% agree that him wearing a wig in public/Kingly scenes would have made the imagery so much stronger! Like one of my favourite romantic tropes is when one of the people has a part of themselves , a name, a secret, their truest self in some form, they only reveal to that One person in their life, and in this case that would have been his hair and I think that would have been fantastic

  • @teddypeony185
    @teddypeony185 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    That was so fascinating to learn. Thank you so much. It also feel strange since most other cast members had something done with their hair. Also his real hair could be used if they going to explore his mental illness.

  • @jemimahubberstey3055
    @jemimahubberstey3055 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Thanks so much for a great video, Abby! So pleased I'm not the only one to have been annoyed by the lack of wig - I just couldn't believe we were in the royal court at that point, and completely agree it would have really enhanced the storytelling of George's public and private selves. (It was also such a shame as all Queen Charlotte's wigs are so beautiful and unique in the original series, so I didn't understand why we couldn't have some similarly stylish and Bridgerton style wigs in this series? We KNOW they can do great wigs, so I felt really cheated!)

  • @shironerisilk
    @shironerisilk ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I watched the main series but I couldn't bring myself to watch this because of the freaking hair LOL I actually always liked 18th century men's hairstyle, but they could have gone the Pirates of The Caribbean route and at least given the ''hot ones'' a longer hair in a queue (and put all the other men in true wigs). At least that LOL

  • @mjw1111
    @mjw1111 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    In contrast review costumes of the Madness of King George movie from 1994... all wigs, all the time in any formal setting. When George is with out a wig he's in the height of madness.

  • @fantasylovemagic
    @fantasylovemagic ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The whole whalebone monologue had me searching TH-cam for dress historian rants 😂😭 didn't find any though , twas too soon xD
    Also the way I thought the king stole his costume the first time we see him WHY IS IT SO LARGE AT THE SHOULDERS WHAT IS THIS HAIR😂😭

    • @itssteph263
      @itssteph263 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Part of me hopes that the whalebone monologue was Charlotte trying to manipulate her brother into canceling everything since she threatened to use the whalebone to make herself bleed to death.

  • @EdoDoe613
    @EdoDoe613 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    In the staggeringly perfect mini series “John Adams”, they used men’s wigs to the dramatic effect you mention and even more.
    I agree. George’s modern hair was a jarring visual and a bewildering choice.

  • @na5202
    @na5202 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Crazy to think that for every expensive human hair wig, there would have been a poor person cutting and selling their own hair like Fantine or Jo March. Great video!

  • @gisela_oliveira
    @gisela_oliveira ปีที่แล้ว +8

    that's why I love how The Great has it's men wearing the wigs ocasionaly, in special events. You have the modern-apealing real hair, but there's also the wigs simbolizing their status. Some of the women in the show also wear, but not all of them, so I think a follow up video analyzing their hair choices would be cool, since their seems to be a lot of small character details hidden in there

  • @schokokeks1409
    @schokokeks1409 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    THANK YOU for making this video. George‘s hair bothered me so much and not just because of the „historical inaccuracy“ (which, I mean, as you rightfully pointed out, it‘s Bridgerton, it‘s not trying to be accurate and that‘s absolutely fine) but because it just seemed so misplaced. He‘s wearing these super fancy outfits and attending these big events and yet his hair is just giving us nothing? It just felt like he was some random 21st century guy who stumbled upon a halloween costume and put it on for shits and giggles right then and there. Looked absolutely unnatural. Plus, the grown out buzz cut situation was just less than ideal, I 100% agree.

  • @glittermytimbers
    @glittermytimbers ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This was so much of my thoughts while watching the show. It is one thing to pretend they have sequins in the 1700s. It’s another thing when they just completely opt out of a major styling choice that we see on screen for most of the shots in the show. And yeah, I’d be unattracted to his hair even in modern day.

    • @romonaelrod7870
      @romonaelrod7870 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sequins have been around for thousands of years. Gold sequins were used as early as 2500BC in the Indus valley. Solid gold sequins were found in King Tutankhamen's tomb. Sequins were also used in the first quarter of the 17th century for women of court.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Hahaha I would love to know your therapist’s reaction to King George’s hair.
    I imagine it’d be like that scene in ‘Freaky Friday’ where Mrs. Coleman is taken over by her daughter and then starts doodling on the pad and keeps saying “So, how does that make you feel?”

  • @kristenungstad3252
    @kristenungstad3252 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you! I picked up on George's hair instantly and LOATHED the look.

  • @SamyTheBookWorm
    @SamyTheBookWorm ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That whole rant in episode one was painful for me as well! I was actually screaming at the screen and put my husband and our flatmate through a lecture about fashion history in your honour 😂

  • @torakfett3351
    @torakfett3351 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    From now until the end of time, whenever anyone asks me what’s wrong I will say “I’m MOIST & LEAKY!”
    Thanks😂 that gave me and my husband a good laugh.

  • @Chellebelle121
    @Chellebelle121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yankee Doodle Dandy~~~ “Stuck a feather in his hat, and called it macaroni!” Macaroni is what they called those insanely huge and decorated hairstyles, but growing up I never knew that’s what they were referencing.

  • @anearzelus7989
    @anearzelus7989 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "in keeping with the government, the hair collapses" HAHAHAHA

  • @katehenry2718
    @katehenry2718 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so very much )))) Considerations of wiggery very welcome. I've been saving brushings for years to make one of my own hair for the lovely high hair style to be worn at re-enactments 1740-1780. Time zones for hair styles will help me present the right hair style. VERY happy to find pieces and pads more important than full wigs.

  • @autumndawn8587
    @autumndawn8587 ปีที่แล้ว

    As I costume designer, I LOVE your idea for the wig with George being used as a device to further develop the character and emphasize certain scenes. You have brought a very valid point. Very wonderful!

  • @aroger2486
    @aroger2486 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I went to williamsburg for my honeymoon 2 years ago and went to the wig shop. It was one of my favorite places I visited while I was there. It was so interesting and cool to watch them make a wig. I was in there asking so many questions.

  • @melima_
    @melima_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Especially that it was a buzzcut! A bit longer hair would have already been a slight improvement.
    I really love your idea of the storytelling behind wig - no wig!

    • @raquelveloz2481
      @raquelveloz2481 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In an interview, the actor mentioned he had shaved off all his hair during the audition process (unclear why). The director was very concerned that Corey wouldn’t grow his hair out in time before shooting. So the haircut we’re seeing is all he managed to grow out before they started filming

  • @isabelleblanchet3694
    @isabelleblanchet3694 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am 41 and I have female pattern baldness (it's genetic, my grand-mother would get perms so we did not see her scalp through her hair.), not enough to use wigs, but enough that I noticed and I have had considerable success regrowing lost hair using Rosemary Essential Oil when I wash my hair. I had read that it was as effective as medicated shampoo for hair loss while being less agressive for the scalp. And I am quite happy with the results. I am loosing a lot less hair when washing (it was as bad as post-partum shedding before and my last baby is 10 years old) and have a large amount of short hair on the top of my head that were simply gone before.

  • @Oonagh72
    @Oonagh72 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fun fact. The weight of hair and certain hairstyles can cause headaches. There are people who wear their hair short for this reason. My hair gives me a headache, so I can’t wear updos and never a single ponytail.

  • @qveenissac
    @qveenissac 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:13 including the song clip w/ the montage at the risk of copyright was EVERYTHING. Legit had to watch it back a 2nd time.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. ปีที่แล้ว +5

    0:51 So, basically Chad Michael Murray in ‘A Cinderella Story’ at the prom in that period outfit?
    P.S. Zac Efron as Troy Bolton works too.

  • @abbygailvalcourt6577
    @abbygailvalcourt6577 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    It's comforting to know that George's causal hair was a shock as it was to me.

  • @sarahrose5772
    @sarahrose5772 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me realizing that I’ve been so hyper fixated on your blouse that I have to restart the video half way in. The print is stunning. Oh my gawed it’s gorgeous. I hope the comments can tell me who makes the fabric cuz I’m about to read every single one.

  • @NoDecaf7
    @NoDecaf7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you want to do an entire series on wigs, I'd be here for it lol ❤ love your content!

  • @moxielouise
    @moxielouise ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your snarky humor is totally on point. Perfection!

  • @sagahagstrom3795
    @sagahagstrom3795 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I totally agree that they could have done such fun things with the wig! Like the visual change between Farmer George and King George. I think it's they totally missed a great opertunity.

  • @Pink_Aqua
    @Pink_Aqua ปีที่แล้ว

    Your humor is ON POINT 😂😂😂 not only are your videos educational and interesting, but they are hysterical 😂

  • @jeywithane130
    @jeywithane130 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    gosh this was such a good video, so well presented.
    also i agree, i had the same knee-jerk reaction when george showed up and i didn't even know anything abt wigs at that point! all i thought was, well if john malkovich can wear a wig and somehow ooze charm while a) not even being that charming to look at and b) playing a horrible character, then there's no excuse for george's outgrown buzzcut.

  • @fiveminutefridays
    @fiveminutefridays ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved this video but also was devastated to see no Elijah Wood prank interview "when will you wear wigs!?!?" references lol

  • @paigewilliams5852
    @paigewilliams5852 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would love to see a video of you doing some wig styling! That would be so fun!

  • @lucie4185
    @lucie4185 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love Abby's videos because she gives really good and varied primary source material to demonstrate her points. Love ye amount of research ❤❤❤

  • @stephaniew749
    @stephaniew749 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just realized why the Queen Charlotte costumers did this . He was the only male character in the show whose hair wasn’t “done “- it distinguished his illness for the audience likely. It wasn’t intended to make him attractive. It was the opposite. It was intended to make him naked .

    • @Dogwalkingmom22
      @Dogwalkingmom22 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hmm interesting thought.

  • @debcarroll8192
    @debcarroll8192 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I almost turned the TV off when Charlotte made the whalebone comment, but I gritted my teeth and pushed through. Overall, I enjoyed the show, although I also lamented the lack of wigs or hair powder. Why producers think we can't handle historical looks is beyond me! I find it interesting that the extras usually look so much more authentic than the main characters.

  • @eleanorlaurent2303
    @eleanorlaurent2303 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would love to hear your take on The Great (re Catherine). It seems to me there are definitely more wigs.

  • @winterdavis4919
    @winterdavis4919 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally agree! They missed out on some amazing storytelling moments by not giving him a wig! And it was obvious that they knew about the wigs because Lord Bute and the others wore wigs.

  • @kraakar
    @kraakar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're absolutely right, if it doesn't please today's taste, it's still placed in the 1780s and it should be minimally convincing. Both George and Charlotte should be wearing wigs.

  • @AmPlant
    @AmPlant ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a person who didn't know any of this until this video, it also just looks like he's missing something. In all of those clips, the outfit says "King George" and the hair says "guy in a costume"

    • @CharleyGurl
      @CharleyGurl ปีที่แล้ว

      Right? I really enjoyed the show, to my surprise, but just stylistically - that hair is a distraction.

  • @britneyphillips8548
    @britneyphillips8548 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hadn’t thought of George wearing a wig as the king and not as farmer George but that would have been so good! Also, the whale bone scene killed me.

  • @jsa-z1722
    @jsa-z1722 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Abby for talking about this! Historic inaccuracies are super annoying.

  • @lilykatmoon4508
    @lilykatmoon4508 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was fascinating. I honestly thought it was strictly a fashion thing why men wore wigs! So, thanks for sharing your expertise with us. ❤

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I knew there were people with better expertise than me to comment on costumes but I thought the cast was too adorable and I liked watching their interviews.

  • @DrAnarchy69
    @DrAnarchy69 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a wig lover, always good to see this content. Can’t get enough wig history

  • @melissamybubbles6139
    @melissamybubbles6139 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why did the shift away from wigs happen? Was it considered an unnecessary expense for those who had adequate hair? Did balding men decide they didn't care who saw their baldness? What happened to the bald people once wigs fell out of popularity? Were they considered of lesser moral character?

  • @lauramarsh7091
    @lauramarsh7091 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is my first time watching anything of yours. You're so knowledgeable and charismatic! But I gotta say the thing that really sold me on you was that the HSM song you picked to illustrate your point was Scream, which is my favorite and not even the most famous one! 😂

  • @AMinibot
    @AMinibot ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The bit about highway robbers stealing wigs is hilarious to me because I remember the cover of the Horrible Histories book for the Georgians has an illustration of a highway robbery, and the dialogue from the highwayman is "Stand and deliver! Your money, or your wig!" And for YEARS i thought that was intended as a send-up of the fact that everyone thinks of wigs more than almost anything else when they think of the Georgians, especially because the jokes on the Horrible Histories covers tend to have more mass appeal and be less based on niche facts. But now I'm like... was that an intentional reference to this fact??

  • @TracieSmithpomeranian
    @TracieSmithpomeranian ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I grew up in the 80s. I did the wings thing in my hair and also tried to get it higher and bigger. I was an amateur... 😢

  • @dirgniflesuoh7950
    @dirgniflesuoh7950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "George" looks like a Ken Prince. One of those Mattel prince dolls where You can remove the sort of 18th century garments and dress him modern.

  • @bensontm
    @bensontm ปีที่แล้ว +27

    As you say, hair was a reflection of health. Could the creators have used the abnormal use of George's actual short hair to symbolize his ongoing stuggle with mental health?

    • @Eloraurora
      @Eloraurora ปีที่แล้ว +22

      This could be really interesting. He'd probably still wear a wig in public, keeping up appearances, but it would be cool to switch between mid-length natural hair = George's doing okay, and close-cut hair = George is struggling.

    • @kahkah1986
      @kahkah1986 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Eloraurora yes, really short hair like that would be a sign of extremism and weirdness, like he was going through some sensory processing issues and needed it all off

    • @E42545
      @E42545 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I assumed this was the intent, but it falls totally flat with no contrast. It would’ve worked great if he sometimes had one (even for the two formal occasions), especially with how severely they played up his “sometimes perfectly fine sometimes unhinged” or even if any other male leads had them to show how George differs from them. It honestly felt kind of insultingly lazy with how much they played up the “crazy” of mental health struggles without ever contrasting it with the reality that is masking and forced social conformity.

    • @bensontm
      @bensontm ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @E I have to agree. The cause of his mental health difficulties are still debated today so it would have been nice to see the show creators take a stand instead of leaving it as some nebulous, we can't really fix this, disorder that we will now try to kill without killing the King.
      I did learn that King George's two doctors were father and son, the Willis's. Their harsh torture methods of treatment was so abhorrent that the figure of speech "gives me the willies" stemmed from it.

    • @linpollitt8950
      @linpollitt8950 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I don't think they went that deep! They just thought he'd be more attractive without a wig. Shame.

  • @theauroradragon8410
    @theauroradragon8410 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They're out here looking like they just got a fresh style from supercuts 😭

  • @mariehavlickova4702
    @mariehavlickova4702 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think I remember mentioning wigs in the rainbow hair video and as a side note in several others. Thank you for great work. ❤❤❤

  • @1st1anarkissed
    @1st1anarkissed ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bet there were some clever creations with unspun linen and wool to create cheaper wigs that don't need real hair. But of course horse hair was also available in good quantities.

  • @teresaellis7062
    @teresaellis7062 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this! Your channel is one of the reasons I love TH-cam. 😊

  • @inarodrikson
    @inarodrikson ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks Abby, first time commenting, but long time following your videos and learning from you a lot! Really inspiring♥️

  • @pauladavitt7554
    @pauladavitt7554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love watching all your videos, but my favourites are definitely the ones when I learn something new about historical fashion and beauty.

  • @karaanderson8485
    @karaanderson8485 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Am i the only one who when she talked about highway robbers stealing wigs thought about that scene from Shrek 2 when Shrek is human and needs clothes? 😂🙈

  • @josephinedykstra3383
    @josephinedykstra3383 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I totally agree with you about the buzz cut 😂Related: especially later on, did men ever wear their own hair styled as a wig? For example, rolled and queued?

    • @maryeckel9682
      @maryeckel9682 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      George Washington did (pictured in the video).

  • @reay1864
    @reay1864 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    omg i didnt realise lmao the actress who plays young queen charlotte was in my high school class xd good for her!!

  • @gammyeme
    @gammyeme ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I tried to watch Bridgerton, but couldn't get past all the inaccuracies. I understand story for story's sake, but history is history . You can't change it.

  • @2480hanna
    @2480hanna ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love everything about this video. More historical hair styling info!

  • @dmiller5765
    @dmiller5765 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great points & seeing the clips you chose where the servants were wearing wigs in the background underlines the issue.

  • @charlotteslays
    @charlotteslays ปีที่แล้ว +23

    george standing around with all the other men actually in wigs was insane

    • @MorganHorse
      @MorganHorse ปีที่แล้ว

      I honestly never noticed.

    • @charlotteslays
      @charlotteslays ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MorganHorse it caught my eye instantly lol i was like why does he look so odd (my mother didnt notice tho either so ig it depends how observant u r)

  • @stillhere1425
    @stillhere1425 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought I knew stuff about historical fashion, and have done my share of cringing at anachronistic fashion and hair in movies and television shows, but your presentation was all revelatory for me!

  • @sweetbriar06
    @sweetbriar06 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is why I've already moved on to 1830s Prince Eric and his dimples. Totally a missed opportunity for Hot King George in a wig, Bridgerton. It absolutely distracted me the entire series because I wanted the wig there as a plot device to show the switch between GRIII and Farmer George.

  • @musicluver7125
    @musicluver7125 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was eating cereal during this and had the misfortune of just haven taken a big bite when "moist and leaky" happened, and the milk did not stay in my mouth.