Yeah I found that to be a good comparison as well. I don't know how large of a production he has and it doesn't matter. His content is good and that's why we watch it. (:
I agree with all except two: 1. Mac Mini is excellent especially for its price point and should be at a very least B. 2. The wireless Trackpad is unparalleled and insanely great for those who like using trackpads with their desktop. I would give it an A.
Half of this video made me feel that these guys don’t deserve the pedestal they’ve been put on; but yes, those two in particular really crumbled my cum sock. I know it’s not the best replacement for “grinds my gears” but I’m working on it.
As a musician that's been using the 12.9" iPad pro for the past year - it's honestly changed the game for me in terms of workflow and efficiency. There is nothing that is more useful than an iPad pro to a musician on the market right now and this is coming from somebody that's usually a die hard Android + Windows user!
@@iian724 I don't do much digital work as I'm a classical musician primarily but I imagine that there are similar apps - I don't think logic itself is on iOS in full.
But you don't get full x86 app support on an iPad. Any Surface Pro, from 2017 to 7, would be able to run full software like Ableton or other creator software like Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign. Not the highly-constrained app versions with mostly limited software.
@@israelramirez0202 But the Surface isn't as good when it comes to a touch centric UI, tho MS seems to be trying to improve their tablet mode with the updates. In it's class as a proper tablet, the iPad is a well rounded product.
“iPad Air is old”... “needs an update” it shares the A12 of the iPad Pro, while yes the pro is more powerful, in terms of support both iPads will be supported for the same amount of time. That “$330” iPad has an A10 for reference and in Australia at least coasts over $500 to me the iPad Air is at least a C
Agree, if you want to do art on a budget Air is a way better choice than base ipad. Laminated, color accurate screen and better performance sold it for me.
I think the iPhone 12 is around the same price and that's why they don't think it's worth it. It's still a new phone with a great camera. I was torn between getting the iPhone 11 and the iPhone SE. I've always used Android.
I got offended really that the iPad Air was F tier I have the iPad Air and it has 10 times better display than the base iPad ( really laminating the display makes a HUGE difference, I can’t even bear looking at the base iPad screen ) And the iPad Air has much much much faster processor making it way faster than base iPad Plus the iPad Air has significantly smaller bezels And don’t forget that the base iPad starts at 32 GB which is unusable , you can’t get 64GB only 128 , with that the iPad reaches almost 450 dollars For 50 dollars only you get screen , design , performance, I don’t see a reason why not pick up the iPad Air
I work at the biggest apr store in The Netherlands (apple store itselves are not really common here) we have sold 2 mac pros last week, those were also the first 2 mac pros pur store has sold.. both for businesses.. Mac mini is never being sold anymore, the imac fushion drive is insane would not recommend an imac very quickly, would also say for the macbook pro 16”
Same here, i5 model, with an upgraded SSD (got it real cheap €56 in my country) and works decently well. Sure, the display could use an upgrade, but on all honesty if it works, it works. It can run some game titles too, maybe not at high settings but still decently well.
I 100% agree on the iPad ratings. I’ve been using my 2018 iPad Pro since December 2018 & it has fully replaced my 13” MacBook Pro. It’s way more flexible, the LTE option allows me to work on the go (helpful as a musician & teacher). The wide range of iPad options for budget & power makes the iPad lineup the ultimate daily computer, from young students to adult professionals. The iPad is the new modern daily computer for everybody
then good luck trying to run the processor with a pathetic battery. its better to have a bigger battery to help run the beefy processor. apple blundered hard.
it's definitely not a phone you want to stress out with games, because the battery will run dry in minutes, but as a "phone" with smart features like a web browser and apps? It's great, and the battery lasts all day.
@@jandellko I bought one for my grandmother. Honestly it's an extremely balanced phone. We can sit here and talk about how small the battery is, but she's getting 2.5 to 3 days of battery life with her light usage. I could see anyone getting through a full day of charge on normal usage. The processor sips power compared to the iPhone 8's old chip and the iPhone 8 would still get you through a day. Specs aren't everything. The battery is more than enough
I'm in love with apple music, mainly because it's cheaper for me than spotify, the recommendation engine fits me better, some songs I like are not on spotify and it works with my huge old iTunes library that I got from many sources (some of them not entirely legit but I'd hate having to sort that decades old collection again) Other than that, the list is pretty much spot on, I'd say the iMacs are in dire need of an update (they were quite competitive in early 2019) and the iPhones certainly go down in this lists fast, they were clearly A products on launch
No. I think you guys are right on. I have only had a small iPod. I'm thinking of getting the iPhone SE. I can buy the phone without the whole garden, right? If that goes well after your recommendation I'll look at the iPad instead of a laptop. I felt the same way about most of the products and the ratings. Everyone complains about the price of the magic keyboard. Thanks for the organized and straight forward info.
I wish they even made videos themselves on this channel more. It would make a ton of sense since they did it before it I remember correctly. And plus it adds more flavour if that's the right word to see newer faces to the channel then Austin and Matt all the time (not saying that's bad its defo fine)
Ahh comon! I was pretty much in agreement with you guys until you got to the iPhone 11/11 Pro and gave it D tier only because the iPhone 12 is around the corner. I was under the impression you were just rating products as they are, not necessarily by whether or not you’d recommend them today. I was hoping to see just overall where you guys think it ranks in terms of Apple products because it’s major step up over the X and the XS! Still a great video and would love to see another one like it in the future!
I feel like ranking the iphone 11 in D tier/C Tier or talking about doing so is unfair. The iPhone is an amazing phone, the fact that the newer models are supposed to be coming soon shouldn't' affect how great of a phone it is. Is this video supposed to be about ranking best apple products if you're going to purchase today? Or ranking Apples products as a selection of what they have to offer. You may be able to make the argument that they all aren't great because in a few years there are going to be all NEW better products from them. Otherwise, awesome video idea! Super interesting to see how all of the products match up to what I would rank them. The iPad Pro really is a stellar device
While I’d agree with the F rating for the iPad Air 3 in 2020, I would have given it a B back in 2019 before they released the 10.2” budget iPad. At launch it made sense as an in-between model that was much nicer than the iPad 6th generation, but not quite as expensive as the Pro. Now given how good their cheapest option is it’s become so hard to see how the Air fits into their lineup. I picked up an iPad Air 3 about 5 or so months before they launched the 10.2” version and I am absolutely loving it and do not regret it. While the benefits are small, it still comes with a slightly larger, slightly better-looking display with slimmer bezels and True Tone, which I really love. Not to mention the A12 SoC is much more powerful than the A10, so the added life span is much appreciated. That thing just runs fast! Not even a bit of multitasking and photo editing in Lightroom can slow it down. Basically has replaced my laptop on the go.
I agree with pretty much the whole list. I am a primarily Apple user and with the iphone 12, AirPods Pro and Apple Music I say the one complaint I have with this integration is Apple Music doesn’t fully stop. The music would keep playing or a song would play randomly without me even pressing on the app cause the app doesn’t fully close out draining my airpods battery and phone battery ever so slightly. However I stick with Apple for a good reason or two. Excellent security and virus protection, fantastic integration, and build quality is awesome. But where Apple gets you is the prices, you have to be seriously committed to practically only use Apple products to get the full effect and when you spend more than $2,000 on tech, there really isn’t a way out if you wanted to leave the ecosystem at all. I would use Android or PC if it wasn’t for the large amount of frustration I get with these devices constantly needing updates(not updating) and how insecure they can get. Otherwise the designs on non-Apple products in my opinion are cooler and much cheaper but with tech prices rising and everything costing $1,000 anyways, going full Apple is not that far of a stretch. I’m one of those people who waits years before purchasing an upgrade and I would recommend this strategy rather getting the latest every year from any tech company period. Also knowing your habits and workflow also helps. Anyways all this to say great video and yes Apple is expensive and doesn’t allow much customization almost all but for me the benefits are convenience and lack of frustration and longevity. Plus prices are getting close to equal anyways but Windows will always be a tech industry favorite bc of the infinite customizations and easier to work with while doing coding.
How is the apple watch not “S”, there is literally not a better watch on the market. And if Apple Music is “C” because there is no reason to switch from Spotify to Apple Music, then by that logic Spotify is “C” as well. I think both are “A”, enither is better than the other.
Yeah both Spotify and Apple Music can take the boot they’re both trash I am used to the smoothness and how loose you can be with TH-cam music like you can type the lyrics or even something it’s famous for. And you can stack subscriptions.
Ok let me take that back music is music we both pay for our respectable companies i just like that youtube family music and premium cost 17.99 i got comfortable and next thing you know apple music got deleted, i am just lazy and rather let the system adjust to me instead of hearing the same thing all the time
Apple watch ain't S tier as the galaxy active 2 is a clear rival and has some better facilities, especially if you are android user, as opposed to the the ipad pro which is hands down the best tablet regardless of the software..
The iPad Pro with the new iPad OS is 100% the best tablet experience and completes about 75% of the computing I'd require on a daily basis, HOWEVER, until Apple enables a more typical, robust and complete mouse + keyboard experience that mirrors macOS, I can't justify it as a daily driver. Sure I can edit video, update spreadsheets and kinda have multiple windows open at the same time (which took forever after 10 years of release), but if I'm not drawing, I still find myself reaching for my laptop to complete these tasks faster/easier and streaming a PC Game is a nightmare (via Steam, AMD Link, or Rainway) - reinvent the wheel sure, change my perception of what a PC is, but don't outright handicap legacy functionality because you still want people to buy the MacBook Air. Until I get more mouse + keyboard support, it might as well still just be an iPhone with a larger display for watching Netflix.
"I expect a windows laptop to last me 2 years and MacBook 3 year" me.....that I had no problem with my 6 years old Windows laptop and I bought I new one only cause my cat made a cup of water trip all over it. And I'm not a light user I was able to pump it up to 16 Gb of ram and take a bigger SSD with a really low price.
I’m not a person who wants to get like new phones and tablets and stuff, I mainly only upgrade game systems. I use 30 MPows, iPhone 6, and and iPad Air 2. To me, they’re both amazing. My iPhone is a bit buggy, but doesn’t matter too much. Only reason I’d upgrade is maybe because of its bad battery. The iPad Air is AMAZING. I watched this video on it. I mainly use it as a TH-cam/Netflix/Hulu Watcher. The reason why I love it, comes down to that this, for me was my main source of gaming (other than console) for a LONG time. Only a few years ago, I upgraded to a laptop. I mainly used it for MineCraft and Roblox. It worked pretty well, it’s only down-sides being its storage, and the controls. I have no plans to upgrade either of these in the next 3 or so years. (Eventually I will upgrade though.)
Austin, I felt you were a little harsher than you had to be on some products. I understand that you were giving us your opinion and for that I enjoyed watching this video. Good work today and thank you for sharing your thoughts on every current Apple product.
"You can expect to have a windows laptop last up to 2 years" *Laughs in 8 year old basic laptop which I still use daily for work and gaming even though it gets so hot even at CS:GO or LOL that I cannot have it sit on my lap anymore*
"I don't like the trackpad" WUT? Okur, maybe it's not your preferred pointer input device but you're forgetting one thing. This 👏 isn't 👏 about 👏 you 👏. Either rate everything objectively or subjectively not both.
You guys definitely should have separated the two iMac variants, you did the same with the macbook pros, and the 27 inch sooooo freaking good where its basically a separate computer branch
Spencerrr Both iMacs right now are not good as they start with either a hard drive or fusion drive and in 2020 that is stupid. I run an iMac 2015 that I cracked open to upgrade the rust to an SSD and the upgrade process was terrible. 5+ hours just to swap a drive and you have to replace the screen adhesive.
You neglected to include iCloud. Ya know, that crap that I pay 79 PENCE a month for just to back up my iPad. Is 5GB free storage enough? Christ no. I can’t tell who is more tight, me or Apple. 🤯
Not an apple user, but i think the mac mini probably should of been at least one step higher. It natively punches above its price range, and its pretty upgradeable for an apple product. I've been considering getting one to mess around with.
I changed my macbook for an ipad pro and now have a magic keyboard to go with it and it's honestly amazing. I agree with most placings except for the magic trackpad 2, it is expensive but it's probably the best trackpad in the world. It's huge, super responsive, the haptic whatever it great, the finish is great, the battery is eternal. It should be a solid A, imho. I had one since my macbook's trackpad died on me and used it with the ipad pro before i got the magic keyboard and it was great. Maybe my only complain is the pairing, it is a hassle to swap between devices and doesn't instantly pairs like the smart connector keyboard or the magic pencil, and that it's not usb-c but honestly you charge it one night and it lasts months so who cares. I do find it funny that you didn't even rate the smart keyboard folio or the magic keyboard with numeric keypad for mac. the keyboard folio is not bad but it's just not a product that should exist anymore with the magic keyboard for ipad pro, and the magic keyboard for mac is just terrible and ridiculously overpriced. So they would be D and F at most. If I could rate anything as the best apple product right now, it would be the 2018 iPad Pro because the difference in performance is minuscule compared to the 2020 one and getting it cheaper is a HUGE bonus at how good it just is.
iPod touches are used a lot in education - they’re far cheaper than iPads but still have the ability to run many of the apps needed for learning electronics and computer science
The MBP 13 inch is the perfect laptop for people like me that mainly use it for word processing or light tasks online etc, but also need _some_ power for occassional gaming, photo/video editing or music production on a non-professional level. The Air is much too weak, and the 16 inch MBP is just... too big for me. For a small laptop, the MBP 13 inch is absolutly perfect for me.
@2:55 thats debateable, you should probably switch it arround. Macbook 1-2years(depends on how much apple care you get), and some windows PCs of the same price range 3-5(6, 7, 10) years. For example: Thinkpad T530, 2012, 20000+ hours still cunking with original battery at 25% wear. Thinkpad X230, 2012, 16000 + hours, still working great with the original battery with 394 cycles with 10% wear ... i think. Don't get me wrong. Pre 2016 macbooks didn't suck nearly as much as the 2016-2019 era ones, and its hard to know what will happen with the 2019-present ones since they are too new. But just a thought. In 2019 apple can't get the basics right: crappy keyboards, display cables, data encryped by default on catalina so if you don't fix the board no data :D, no lifeboat ect ect ...
Since then the Air got upgraded and it's really nice. My kids needed a new iPad last Christmas and the base models were sold out everywhere so I had to get them all 2021 Airs and they're actually amazing. Great looking and larger screen, Pencil support, and no button though it would be nice to have Face ID. But my kids love it's size, screen and speed and the Pencil support and it's cheaper than the Pro models.
I’m still using my 2011 MacBook Air everyday and I haven’t had hardware problems or fan issues and I’m pushing it when I start having 20 websites open with three browsers running at the same time. All you have to do is give it manual software updates at an Apple store.
I am still using my MacBook Pro 13 inch from late 2013 and it still works perfectly! Did have to upgrade the storage but otherwise the ram is handling adobe and such like a champ! I bought it when I started my graphic design study and I am still using it in 2020 :)
Definitely agree that the iPad is Apple’s best device, it’s the only Apple device that I’ve felt is worth the money and shelled out for the Pro 2018 myself. I’d consider the SE if I wasn’t entrenched in android and just got a Fairphone 3 in February.
Literally the only thing I would change about this list is put the iPhone 11 at b and the iPhone 11 pro at c. you have to remember that people really like iPhones and don't care about specs that much. Also you forgot about the apple magic keyboard for desktop, Apple TV hd, Apple Watch series 3 and the iPhone xr.
I disagree with the no ipod touch thing as someone who dailys a music player being the hiby r5 and being partially a audiophile this is my own two cents there are a couple reasons you would buy this thing 1) you DONT get notifications from it and calls and texts and stuff on it you just plug in and tune out nothing to stop the music from playing 2) it takes up less battery life and storage on your phone and 3) a lot of the parts are made specifically for listening to music whereas if you use a phone they have to budget music gear for a nicer processor and screen and everything where as if you buy this or ANY audio player they are going to budget more for the DAC and amplifier to make it sound better because that's its intended use case
The problem is that anyone who isn't completely immersed in the ecosystem wouldn't benefit from features of a lot of their products. For example, if you don't have an iPhone the airpods lose their magic of just working. They're just another pair of Bluetooth earbuds. Another example is the pro display xdr. If you don't have a mac, you lose tons of features and are better off with another monitor. If someone asked me if I should recommend an apple product, I ask them if they are 100% ready to be in the ecosystem. If the answer is anything but yes, I don't recommend it at all.
Apple Music is now great with lossless and Spatial Audio. Now we have almost 3 generations of iPhones (including 14) which have the new designs which makes it a harder choice. The iMac, Mac Mini and Macbook line up got an overhaul. iPadOS will soon be a lot more powerful for multitasking. 2 new generations of Airpods (if Airpods Pro 2 comes out). I think this video needs a revisit next month.
I think it's legit. iPads are honestly one of Apple's strongest products right now. They're killing the tablet game, and Android for some reason just can't compete.
I pretty much agree with you but I think there is a point in Apple Music if and only if you are fully into Apple’s ecosystem, I’m not but I can see how that would work
While I don't agree with a number of ratings that you made, I certainly agree with the ipad pro being at the top of the list. While future ARM macbooks are exiting, what would be even better is if more macbook like functionality and app support came to the ipad pro. It already has ARM, and is in a better form for most than a laptop. The future is ARM!
The iPhone SE (2020) is an insane deal. No Android phone can't beat having the flagship performance and 4-5 years of OS updates at midrange price with the main cut corner is the old fashioned body. Imagine if Samsung would re-release the Galaxy S7 with current gen SoC and Android 10 out of the box for the price of it's midrange A71 and pretty much having Android 11, 12 and 13 updates guaranteed (something that even the hyper premium S20 Ultra won't have).
I think you could have given the magic mouse a D, I hate that thing too but I had to once use it at a friend's place and I loved the gestures the glass top has
The 13 inch MacBook Pro is for people who want power and portability. You still have more expansion options since you can have 4 thunderbolt ports instead of just 2.
I agree the iPad Pro is pretty amazing, but... I dunno if I could use it as my main computing device. The lack of windows and the way the file manager works is just... bleh. I haven't tried it with a mouse and keyboard, but I'd really want, say, a snap-on keyboard that makes it more like the Surface Book -- a proper laptop/2-in-1 form factor, instead of a keyboard with a stand that needs a table. It is really really nice to draw on, but I still prefer my Cintiq on my desktop since I can more easily do things like bring in reference images [or have them on another display], keyboard shortcuts, etc. That said, the iPad Pro is perfectly capable if I just want to draw and not be at my desk. More recently I got a 2018 MacBook Pro, and I really love the sidecar feature. And it just *works.* It was kindof mindblowing the first time I did it. Now I wish there was touch support... And I didn't realize the Pencil worked, so I'll have to try that out for drawing on the MacBook Pro, although I doubt the MacBook Pro will be my main computing device either, as I'm really a Windows guy. I'm appreciating MacOS and some of the features, but I still can't get over some of the weird things -- like the fact you can't type a directory path in Finder to go to a specific folder, the fact you have to 'quit' applications to actually close them, some of the weird security things you have to go digging for... Things that just feel a lot easier and more polished on Windows. Not to say Windows is perfect either...
I feel like Apple should make the 16 inch pro with the Magic Keyboard with Numeric Keypad and put the speakers near the hinge and make them less small and then it would be better. And maybe add a couple usb type a ports and an SD card slot. I know it would be more like a pc but I feel like it would be a lot better if it was directed to high end video editors and photographers. Along with SOME gamers
You guys should have done this video now, after the switch to M1 and all the product changes. The new iMac designs. The new 14" Pro. (Which I have and I love it) The death of the iMac Pro. The new Mac Studio. The new display. Etc. Speaking of the 16" MBP, that thing was a piece of crap. I bought one day one to replace my 13" 2013 model and at first it was fine, but I quickly discovered how buggy it was, how horrible the throttling was, how hot the darn thing got just sitting idle. I'm not even the only one who has said this. I've seen reviews where other people mention the same stuff. When the M1 switch came along I was excited. And as soon as the 14" was finally released I bought one day one to replace it even though it was only 2 years old. My previous machine lasted me 6 years and is still going without issues. I could have held onto it for 2 more if I had known. I traded my 16" in and they gave me back half its original cost after 2 years. Basically paid for most of my new machine. That 2019 machine was a misstep but Apple has since made up for it for me.
This is crazy ! D tier for iPhone 11 ? Even if the iPhone 12 comes out soon, that just mean you'll find crazy deal on the iPhone 11 especially around Back to school and Thanksgiving and they are still as good as when they launched
As a person who rocks the smaller phone whenever possible, I love my Pro small, as well as my iPad mini. I'd however love a iPad mini pro language too. I love it for sitting on the couch or in bed. With that said I want a larger pro for office work.
I don't think the regular Airpods deserve B tier since I know many people who have pairs that last for less than a year. You can spend $20 on wireless earbuds that last longer and sound much better.
"Hello and welcome to this is, Austin"
We were on the verge of greatness we were *this* close
I didn't even realize lol
Watch my video it says why he stopped
veryblue car Now I’m finding you everywhere
All we need is the “Hey Guys”
@cyka learn grammar
Love how MKBHD is now essentially Hollywood
Lol ikr
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Yeah I found that to be a good comparison as well. I don't know how large of a production he has and it doesn't matter. His content is good and that's why we watch it. (:
@@WarriorsPhoto he has an insane production setup
I agree with all except two:
1. Mac Mini is excellent especially for its price point and should be at a very least B.
2. The wireless Trackpad is unparalleled and insanely great for those who like using trackpads with their desktop. I would give it an A.
Agree! Especially about the magic trackpad. It's probably the best trackpad out there and maybe even qualifies for an S.
Same on both, the magic trackpad 2 is easily the best external trackpad out there.
Half of this video made me feel that these guys don’t deserve the pedestal they’ve been put on; but yes, those two in particular really crumbled my cum sock. I know it’s not the best replacement for “grinds my gears” but I’m working on it.
As a musician that's been using the 12.9" iPad pro for the past year - it's honestly changed the game for me in terms of workflow and efficiency. There is nothing that is more useful than an iPad pro to a musician on the market right now and this is coming from somebody that's usually a die hard Android + Windows user!
I'm no Music producer, but am also a full on Android + Windows users, but when it comes to tablets, there's just no real competition to the iPad.
is there like logic on the ipad?
@@iian724 I don't do much digital work as I'm a classical musician primarily but I imagine that there are similar apps - I don't think logic itself is on iOS in full.
But you don't get full x86 app support on an iPad. Any Surface Pro, from 2017 to 7, would be able to run full software like Ableton or other creator software like Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign. Not the highly-constrained app versions with mostly limited software.
@@israelramirez0202 But the Surface isn't as good when it comes to a touch centric UI, tho MS seems to be trying to improve their tablet mode with the updates. In it's class as a proper tablet, the iPad is a well rounded product.
17:32 "No one should buy an iPod Touch"
*Dankpods would like to know your location*
Ah yea of course! 😂
I see a man of culture
they shouldn’t hurt mah boiy like that 😂😂
Dingus!
I was thinking about that vid while watching that scene😂
mkbhd and all of hollywood
hum you forgot about iJustine
And Snazzy Labs
Basically Hollywood
iJustine prob gets high sniffing her imac
Jonathan Morrison : am I a joke to you?
EverythingApplePro too. skl
So, We gonna talk about the MKBHD T-Shirt he is wearing.
😂
Do we tell Linus..?
@@DrAestheticc lool
Think it’s his podcast(Waveform)’s logo
I’m too distracted by the haircut
“iPad Air is old”... “needs an update” it shares the A12 of the iPad Pro, while yes the pro is more powerful, in terms of support both iPads will be supported for the same amount of time. That “$330” iPad has an A10 for reference and in Australia at least coasts over $500 to me the iPad Air is at least a C
Yes i am using one and i feel like it is the best ipad for most students esp the ones who take notes
Agree, if you want to do art on a budget Air is a way better choice than base ipad. Laminated, color accurate screen and better performance sold it for me.
Joke’s on them with the new iPad Air 2020 it easily jumped to A Tier again. Love my green iPad Air
“I feel you should really not get the iPhone 11 right now”
Me, with my 3 day old iPhone 11: 😨
You can still return it :)
I was considering buying a iPhone 11😭
@@AFDreday Just don't. The next iPhone will have OLED display across the board.
I think the iPhone 12 is around the same price and that's why they don't think it's worth it. It's still a new phone with a great camera. I was torn between getting the iPhone 11 and the iPhone SE. I've always used Android.
@@kevynmarkowitz1594 get iphone 11, se has terrible battery life
Imagine making the list with Louis Rossmann
Everything would be an F other than maybe the SE cause of cheap parts. 😂
f
Imagine making it with anyone at LMG
Worst: Everything but the
Best: Wheels
i get the joke finally lol
At this point we should just tier list everything.
Well I guess you like 1000 hours videos
Does anyone else agree that the iPad Pro is one of apple’s best devices.
It's the only apple device I felt worth buying.
No. Just buy a normal iPad like the 7th gen.
Yes
@@howtofixyourtech9945 it depends what you use an iPad for
Except for the fact that the new one came out and was being ripped in half by jerryrig
You guys put the picture for the iPad mini in the S tier and the picture for the iPad (10.2-inch) in the D tier accidentally lol
lol
I got offended really that the iPad Air was F tier
I have the iPad Air and it has 10 times better display than the base iPad ( really laminating the display makes a HUGE difference, I can’t even bear looking at the base iPad screen )
And the iPad Air has much much much faster processor making it way faster than base iPad
Plus the iPad Air has significantly smaller bezels
And don’t forget that the base iPad starts at 32 GB which is unusable , you can’t get 64GB only 128 , with that the iPad reaches almost 450 dollars
For 50 dollars only you get screen , design , performance, I don’t see a reason why not pick up the iPad Air
Ok
Honestly, i couldn’t agree more. The Laminated display makes a DAY AND NIGHT difference on the iPad Air.
I honestly think they were thinking of Air 2 because Austin mentions outdated specs which wouldn’t make sense for the Air 3
Harshil P no they were talking about iPad Air 3
Because the iPad Air is a worse version of the iPad Pro 2 in almost every way and uses that out dated design thats just gonna age worse over time
For every item you don’t realise “Who is it for?”
Think Tech Company employees , Wallstreet or any other firm..
I work at the biggest apr store in The Netherlands (apple store itselves are not really common here) we have sold 2 mac pros last week, those were also the first 2 mac pros pur store has sold.. both for businesses..
Mac mini is never being sold anymore, the imac fushion drive is insane would not recommend an imac very quickly, would also say for the macbook pro 16”
Bruh I used my dell inspiron for 5 years for atleast half the price of the macbook
Still using a 15 year old e1405 with an SSD and replaced battery. Installed Linux to replace windows 7 2 years ago. Im replacing it soon though.
I used to use a base late 2013 MacBook Pro until 6 months ago. Those old ones lasted forever.
@@adamrhoads1521 for 1,499 it should..
Same here, i5 model, with an upgraded SSD (got it real cheap €56 in my country) and works decently well. Sure, the display could use an upgrade, but on all honesty if it works, it works. It can run some game titles too, maybe not at high settings but still decently well.
StoP TROLLING mE BrO especially if you have a 2010. Because that was one of the last times you could change almost everything in one.
Not the "this is" episode I was expecting
Watching this 5 months later and almost every product that was “old” has been refreshed
13” is all I need for a side photography business but I cannot justify $2399 for the 16”...YET
I 100% agree on the iPad ratings. I’ve been using my 2018 iPad Pro since December 2018 & it has fully replaced my 13” MacBook Pro. It’s way more flexible, the LTE option allows me to work on the go (helpful as a musician & teacher). The wide range of iPad options for budget & power makes the iPad lineup the ultimate daily computer, from young students to adult professionals. The iPad is the new modern daily computer for everybody
Would be great if you guys did an update on this video with all the new products. Especially the iPad Air and new iPhones
do 14 pro max
The trackpad deserves an A!!
The iPhone SE have a very small battery with a monster processor.
then good luck trying to run the processor with a pathetic battery. its better to have a bigger battery to help run the beefy processor. apple blundered hard.
@@jandellko indeed
it's definitely not a phone you want to stress out with games, because the battery will run dry in minutes, but as a "phone" with smart features like a web browser and apps? It's great, and the battery lasts all day.
@@jandellko I bought one for my grandmother. Honestly it's an extremely balanced phone. We can sit here and talk about how small the battery is, but she's getting 2.5 to 3 days of battery life with her light usage. I could see anyone getting through a full day of charge on normal usage. The processor sips power compared to the iPhone 8's old chip and the iPhone 8 would still get you through a day. Specs aren't everything. The battery is more than enough
The thing with the A13 is that it is super efficient when you're lightly using it. But can also ramp up extremely if you stress it.
I'm in love with apple music, mainly because it's cheaper for me than spotify, the recommendation engine fits me better, some songs I like are not on spotify and it works with my huge old iTunes library that I got from many sources (some of them not entirely legit but I'd hate having to sort that decades old collection again)
Other than that, the list is pretty much spot on, I'd say the iMacs are in dire need of an update (they were quite competitive in early 2019) and the iPhones certainly go down in this lists fast, they were clearly A products on launch
Iphones getting beat by iphones🤣
Its not cheaper than Spotify?? They’re the same price..
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RoshanGamer It’s way cheaper than spotify with an student account, I pay the equivalent of like 2 dollars a month
@@juanmj93 I swear both have student accounts that both cost $5/month
@@manavgupta522 Regional prices dude
I’m an engineering major, I doubt the MacBook Air would cut it.
I was gonna say... For anyone who does renders or design, like architecture students and obviously engineering majors, it’s nowhere near good enough
No. I think you guys are right on. I have only had a small iPod. I'm thinking of getting the iPhone SE. I can buy the phone without the whole garden, right? If that goes well after your recommendation I'll look at the iPad instead of a laptop. I felt the same way about most of the products and the ratings. Everyone complains about the price of the magic keyboard. Thanks for the organized and straight forward info.
Macbook air has serious thermal issues
Matt handling this channel is really great, but I want to see more of the other squad too like Jimmy,Wes,Josh and all others!
I wish they even made videos themselves on this channel more. It would make a ton of sense since they did it before it I remember correctly. And plus it adds more flavour if that's the right word to see newer faces to the channel then Austin and Matt all the time (not saying that's bad its defo fine)
Ahh comon! I was pretty much in agreement with you guys until you got to the iPhone 11/11 Pro and gave it D tier only because the iPhone 12 is around the corner. I was under the impression you were just rating products as they are, not necessarily by whether or not you’d recommend them today. I was hoping to see just overall where you guys think it ranks in terms of Apple products because it’s major step up over the X and the XS! Still a great video and would love to see another one like it in the future!
when i saw the thumbnail i was like apple makes a cheese grater😂 but no its just the mac pro
When they speak about the ipod i heard dank pods hearth broke
He hates the Touch, too.
Me, a German getting flashbacks, when Austin mentions the SS Tier at 13:18
Makes me realize both home many Apple products there are I've never heard of, and how little products Apple has
What a great idea for a video. This should totally be on the trending page
10:43 Yes, I would.
I would give it an S+ tier😉
I feel like ranking the iphone 11 in D tier/C Tier or talking about doing so is unfair. The iPhone is an amazing phone, the fact that the newer models are supposed to be coming soon shouldn't' affect how great of a phone it is. Is this video supposed to be about ranking best apple products if you're going to purchase today? Or ranking Apples products as a selection of what they have to offer. You may be able to make the argument that they all aren't great because in a few years there are going to be all NEW better products from them. Otherwise, awesome video idea! Super interesting to see how all of the products match up to what I would rank them. The iPad Pro really is a stellar device
I'm watching this on a mid-2012 MBP and Matt be talking about how his Mac's only lasted 3-5 years. LMAO
same.. -_-
Unless he’s always buying the base model I have no clue what he’s on about
EnterTheFatrix yeah really. My MacBook Air from 2013 still runs well
That really depends on what you use it for, but for web browsing and basic school stuff even my 2011 would be fine.
I've got a Lenovo Thinkpad from 2010 that I still use
I always wanted this kind of video!Thanks
I take personal issue with someone wearing the Apple Watch like that, and I am Jeff Williams.
While I’d agree with the F rating for the iPad Air 3 in 2020, I would have given it a B back in 2019 before they released the 10.2” budget iPad. At launch it made sense as an in-between model that was much nicer than the iPad 6th generation, but not quite as expensive as the Pro. Now given how good their cheapest option is it’s become so hard to see how the Air fits into their lineup.
I picked up an iPad Air 3 about 5 or so months before they launched the 10.2” version and I am absolutely loving it and do not regret it. While the benefits are small, it still comes with a slightly larger, slightly better-looking display with slimmer bezels and True Tone, which I really love. Not to mention the A12 SoC is much more powerful than the A10, so the added life span is much appreciated. That thing just runs fast! Not even a bit of multitasking and photo editing in Lightroom can slow it down. Basically has replaced my laptop on the go.
I watched this video,
WHERE THE HELL IS THE PRO STAND
It’s more of an accessory then a electronic
it would be a FF tier
I agree with pretty much the whole list. I am a primarily Apple user and with the iphone 12, AirPods Pro and Apple Music I say the one complaint I have with this integration is Apple Music doesn’t fully stop. The music would keep playing or a song would play randomly without me even pressing on the app cause the app doesn’t fully close out draining my airpods battery and phone battery ever so slightly. However I stick with Apple for a good reason or two. Excellent security and virus protection, fantastic integration, and build quality is awesome. But where Apple gets you is the prices, you have to be seriously committed to practically only use Apple products to get the full effect and when you spend more than $2,000 on tech, there really isn’t a way out if you wanted to leave the ecosystem at all. I would use Android or PC if it wasn’t for the large amount of frustration I get with these devices constantly needing updates(not updating) and how insecure they can get. Otherwise the designs on non-Apple products in my opinion are cooler and much cheaper but with tech prices rising and everything costing $1,000 anyways, going full Apple is not that far of a stretch.
I’m one of those people who waits years before purchasing an upgrade and I would recommend this strategy rather getting the latest every year from any tech company period. Also knowing your habits and workflow also helps.
Anyways all this to say great video and yes Apple is expensive and doesn’t allow much customization almost all but for me the benefits are convenience and lack of frustration and longevity. Plus prices are getting close to equal anyways but Windows will always be a tech industry favorite bc of the infinite customizations and easier to work with while doing coding.
How is the apple watch not “S”, there is literally not a better watch on the market.
And if Apple Music is “C” because there is no reason to switch from Spotify to Apple Music, then by that logic Spotify is “C” as well. I think both are “A”, enither is better than the other.
Yeah both Spotify and Apple Music can take the boot they’re both trash I am used to the smoothness and how loose you can be with TH-cam music like you can type the lyrics or even something it’s famous for. And you can stack subscriptions.
@@naraydaniels7832 lol TH-cam Music - never thought someone would legit pay for that garbage
@@PvtAnonymous well at least i aint stuck playing songs on repeat like u keep pedal pushing that apple music trash
Ok let me take that back music is music we both pay for our respectable companies i just like that youtube family music and premium cost 17.99 i got comfortable and next thing you know apple music got deleted, i am just lazy and rather let the system adjust to me instead of hearing the same thing all the time
Apple watch ain't S tier as the galaxy active 2 is a clear rival and has some better facilities, especially if you are android user, as opposed to the the ipad pro which is hands down the best tablet regardless of the software..
14:58 "The ability to hang up a call" You can do that on AirPods Pro as well 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Windows laptops can last way more then 2 years.
bullshit
and costs less and lets you install any os
bruh i bought one for 540€ and it took 5 minutes to open google after a month of use
Lol. I've been using one for more than 10 years.
@@ΔημοσθένηςΒαρνάς bruh I bought a macbook and the CPU hit 105C trying to play 4K video
The iPad Pro with the new iPad OS is 100% the best tablet experience and completes about 75% of the computing I'd require on a daily basis, HOWEVER, until Apple enables a more typical, robust and complete mouse + keyboard experience that mirrors macOS, I can't justify it as a daily driver. Sure I can edit video, update spreadsheets and kinda have multiple windows open at the same time (which took forever after 10 years of release), but if I'm not drawing, I still find myself reaching for my laptop to complete these tasks faster/easier and streaming a PC Game is a nightmare (via Steam, AMD Link, or Rainway) - reinvent the wheel sure, change my perception of what a PC is, but don't outright handicap legacy functionality because you still want people to buy the MacBook Air. Until I get more mouse + keyboard support, it might as well still just be an iPhone with a larger display for watching Netflix.
"I expect a windows laptop to last me 2 years and MacBook 3 year"
me.....that I had no problem with my 6 years old Windows laptop and I bought I new one only cause my cat made a cup of water trip all over it. And I'm not a light user I was able to pump it up to 16 Gb of ram and take a bigger SSD with a really low price.
I’m not a person who wants to get like new phones and tablets and stuff, I mainly only upgrade game systems.
I use 30 MPows, iPhone 6, and and iPad Air 2. To me, they’re both amazing. My iPhone is a bit buggy, but doesn’t matter too much. Only reason I’d upgrade is maybe because of its bad battery. The iPad Air is AMAZING. I watched this video on it. I mainly use it as a TH-cam/Netflix/Hulu Watcher. The reason why I love it, comes down to that this, for me was my main source of gaming (other than console) for a LONG time. Only a few years ago, I upgraded to a laptop. I mainly used it for MineCraft and Roblox. It worked pretty well, it’s only down-sides being its storage, and the controls. I have no plans to upgrade either of these in the next 3 or so years. (Eventually I will upgrade though.)
21.5 iMac my ARSE it has a fkn HDD in its base spec wich is still over 1k
8:35
thank you austin.....thats gonna hunt me in my nightmares
"SS tier"
Happy fuhrer noises
Austin, I felt you were a little harsher than you had to be on some products. I understand that you were giving us your opinion and for that I enjoyed watching this video. Good work today and thank you for sharing your thoughts on every current Apple product.
"You can expect to have a windows laptop last up to 2 years"
*Laughs in 8 year old basic laptop which I still use daily for work and gaming even though it gets so hot even at CS:GO or LOL that I cannot have it sit on my lap anymore*
1:07 cries in Computer Science ML/AI
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"I don't like the trackpad" WUT? Okur, maybe it's not your preferred pointer input device but you're forgetting one thing. This 👏 isn't 👏 about 👏 you 👏. Either rate everything objectively or subjectively not both.
Lmao no tier lists are supposed to show their opinions they arent supposed to be objective
You guys definitely should have separated the two iMac variants, you did the same with the macbook pros, and the 27 inch sooooo freaking good where its basically a separate computer branch
Spencerrr Both iMacs right now are not good as they start with either a hard drive or fusion drive and in 2020 that is stupid. I run an iMac 2015 that I cracked open to upgrade the rust to an SSD and the upgrade process was terrible. 5+ hours just to swap a drive and you have to replace the screen adhesive.
You neglected to include iCloud. Ya know, that crap that I pay 79 PENCE a month for just to back up my iPad. Is 5GB free storage enough? Christ no.
I can’t tell who is more tight, me or Apple. 🤯
Do you back up photos and videos using icloud too?
Hey, love your videos.
Maybe it’s time for an updated video on best and worst Apple devices?
It’s not that crazy of iPad being ranked so high. They’re entry-level Macs in power and specs with a touchscreen and a more simplistic OS.
Not an apple user, but i think the mac mini probably should of been at least one step higher. It natively punches above its price range, and its pretty upgradeable for an apple product. I've been considering getting one to mess around with.
I agree with just about every one. Especially the iPad and Apple Watch. I am blown away with how amazing both are every day!
I changed my macbook for an ipad pro and now have a magic keyboard to go with it and it's honestly amazing. I agree with most placings except for the magic trackpad 2, it is expensive but it's probably the best trackpad in the world. It's huge, super responsive, the haptic whatever it great, the finish is great, the battery is eternal. It should be a solid A, imho. I had one since my macbook's trackpad died on me and used it with the ipad pro before i got the magic keyboard and it was great. Maybe my only complain is the pairing, it is a hassle to swap between devices and doesn't instantly pairs like the smart connector keyboard or the magic pencil, and that it's not usb-c but honestly you charge it one night and it lasts months so who cares.
I do find it funny that you didn't even rate the smart keyboard folio or the magic keyboard with numeric keypad for mac. the keyboard folio is not bad but it's just not a product that should exist anymore with the magic keyboard for ipad pro, and the magic keyboard for mac is just terrible and ridiculously overpriced. So they would be D and F at most.
If I could rate anything as the best apple product right now, it would be the 2018 iPad Pro because the difference in performance is minuscule compared to the 2020 one and getting it cheaper is a HUGE bonus at how good it just is.
iPod touches are used a lot in education - they’re far cheaper than iPads but still have the ability to run many of the apps needed for learning electronics and computer science
3:00 My hp laptop from 2009 still works !!! 10 YEARS DANG
The MBP 13 inch is the perfect laptop for people like me that mainly use it for word processing or light tasks online etc, but also need _some_ power for occassional gaming, photo/video editing or music production on a non-professional level. The Air is much too weak, and the 16 inch MBP is just... too big for me. For a small laptop, the MBP 13 inch is absolutly perfect for me.
I bought an iPhone XR in August 2019... I don’t know what got into me when I could’ve waited for a *CHEAPER* iPhone 11
@2:55 thats debateable, you should probably switch it arround. Macbook 1-2years(depends on how much apple care you get), and some windows PCs of the same price range 3-5(6, 7, 10) years. For example: Thinkpad T530, 2012, 20000+ hours still cunking with original battery at 25% wear. Thinkpad X230, 2012, 16000 + hours, still working great with the original battery with 394 cycles with 10% wear ... i think. Don't get me wrong. Pre 2016 macbooks didn't suck nearly as much as the 2016-2019 era ones, and its hard to know what will happen with the 2019-present ones since they are too new. But just a thought. In 2019 apple can't get the basics right: crappy keyboards, display cables, data encryped by default on catalina so if you don't fix the board no data :D, no lifeboat ect ect ...
Since then the Air got upgraded and it's really nice. My kids needed a new iPad last Christmas and the base models were sold out everywhere so I had to get them all 2021 Airs and they're actually amazing. Great looking and larger screen, Pencil support, and no button though it would be nice to have Face ID. But my kids love it's size, screen and speed and the Pencil support and it's cheaper than the Pro models.
I wish these video segments we're not scripted on Austin's side and that they were more of a podcast style. :(
“What? What? Wait... really? Dude, hold on.”
I’m still using my 2011 MacBook Air everyday and I haven’t had hardware problems or fan issues and I’m pushing it when I start having 20 websites open with three browsers running at the same time. All you have to do is give it manual software updates at an Apple store.
I am still using my MacBook Pro 13 inch from late 2013 and it still works perfectly! Did have to upgrade the storage but otherwise the ram is handling adobe and such like a champ! I bought it when I started my graphic design study and I am still using it in 2020 :)
I would’ve also liked to see you rate AppleCare + and Apple Arcade. Curious to know your opinions on those.
Definitely agree that the iPad is Apple’s best device, it’s the only Apple device that I’ve felt is worth the money and shelled out for the Pro 2018 myself. I’d consider the SE if I wasn’t entrenched in android and just got a Fairphone 3 in February.
Literally the only thing I would change about this list is put the iPhone 11 at b and the iPhone 11 pro at c. you have to remember that people really like iPhones and don't care about specs that much.
Also you forgot about the apple magic keyboard for desktop, Apple TV hd, Apple Watch series 3 and the iPhone xr.
I disagree with the no ipod touch thing as someone who dailys a music player being the hiby r5 and being partially a audiophile this is my own two cents there are a couple reasons you would buy this thing 1) you DONT get notifications from it and calls and texts and stuff on it you just plug in and tune out nothing to stop the music from playing 2) it takes up less battery life and storage on your phone and 3) a lot of the parts are made specifically for listening to music whereas if you use a phone they have to budget music gear for a nicer processor and screen and everything where as if you buy this or ANY audio player they are going to budget more for the DAC and amplifier to make it sound better because that's its intended use case
The problem is that anyone who isn't completely immersed in the ecosystem wouldn't benefit from features of a lot of their products. For example, if you don't have an iPhone the airpods lose their magic of just working. They're just another pair of Bluetooth earbuds. Another example is the pro display xdr. If you don't have a mac, you lose tons of features and are better off with another monitor. If someone asked me if I should recommend an apple product, I ask them if they are 100% ready to be in the ecosystem. If the answer is anything but yes, I don't recommend it at all.
Underrated
Apple Music is now great with lossless and Spatial Audio. Now we have almost 3 generations of iPhones (including 14) which have the new designs which makes it a harder choice.
The iMac, Mac Mini and Macbook line up got an overhaul. iPadOS will soon be a lot more powerful for multitasking. 2 new generations of Airpods (if Airpods Pro 2 comes out).
I think this video needs a revisit next month.
I think it's legit. iPads are honestly one of Apple's strongest products right now. They're killing the tablet game, and Android for some reason just can't compete.
I pretty much agree with you but I think there is a point in Apple Music if and only if you are fully into Apple’s ecosystem, I’m not but I can see how that would work
While I don't agree with a number of ratings that you made, I certainly agree with the ipad pro being at the top of the list. While future ARM macbooks are exiting, what would be even better is if more macbook like functionality and app support came to the ipad pro. It already has ARM, and is in a better form for most than a laptop. The future is ARM!
cool video tech talk austin
The iPhone SE (2020) is an insane deal. No Android phone can't beat having the flagship performance and 4-5 years of OS updates at midrange price with the main cut corner is the old fashioned body.
Imagine if Samsung would re-release the Galaxy S7 with current gen SoC and Android 10 out of the box for the price of it's midrange A71 and pretty much having Android 11, 12 and 13 updates guaranteed (something that even the hyper premium S20 Ultra won't have).
I think you could have given the magic mouse a D, I hate that thing too but I had to once use it at a friend's place and I loved the gestures the glass top has
The 13 inch MacBook Pro is for people who want power and portability. You still have more expansion options since you can have 4 thunderbolt ports instead of just 2.
I agree the iPad Pro is pretty amazing, but... I dunno if I could use it as my main computing device. The lack of windows and the way the file manager works is just... bleh. I haven't tried it with a mouse and keyboard, but I'd really want, say, a snap-on keyboard that makes it more like the Surface Book -- a proper laptop/2-in-1 form factor, instead of a keyboard with a stand that needs a table. It is really really nice to draw on, but I still prefer my Cintiq on my desktop since I can more easily do things like bring in reference images [or have them on another display], keyboard shortcuts, etc. That said, the iPad Pro is perfectly capable if I just want to draw and not be at my desk.
More recently I got a 2018 MacBook Pro, and I really love the sidecar feature. And it just *works.* It was kindof mindblowing the first time I did it. Now I wish there was touch support... And I didn't realize the Pencil worked, so I'll have to try that out for drawing on the MacBook Pro, although I doubt the MacBook Pro will be my main computing device either, as I'm really a Windows guy. I'm appreciating MacOS and some of the features, but I still can't get over some of the weird things -- like the fact you can't type a directory path in Finder to go to a specific folder, the fact you have to 'quit' applications to actually close them, some of the weird security things you have to go digging for... Things that just feel a lot easier and more polished on Windows. Not to say Windows is perfect either...
And I use a 2015 MacBook Pro 13" Retina (pre-touchbar) and it still runs great
I completely agree with Austin on the base iPad
I feel like Apple should make the 16 inch pro with the Magic Keyboard with Numeric Keypad and put the speakers near the hinge and make them less small and then it would be better. And maybe add a couple usb type a ports and an SD card slot. I know it would be more like a pc but I feel like it would be a lot better if it was directed to high end video editors and photographers. Along with SOME gamers
You guys should have done this video now, after the switch to M1 and all the product changes. The new iMac designs. The new 14" Pro. (Which I have and I love it) The death of the iMac Pro. The new Mac Studio. The new display. Etc.
Speaking of the 16" MBP, that thing was a piece of crap. I bought one day one to replace my 13" 2013 model and at first it was fine, but I quickly discovered how buggy it was, how horrible the throttling was, how hot the darn thing got just sitting idle. I'm not even the only one who has said this. I've seen reviews where other people mention the same stuff. When the M1 switch came along I was excited. And as soon as the 14" was finally released I bought one day one to replace it even though it was only 2 years old. My previous machine lasted me 6 years and is still going without issues. I could have held onto it for 2 more if I had known. I traded my 16" in and they gave me back half its original cost after 2 years. Basically paid for most of my new machine. That 2019 machine was a misstep but Apple has since made up for it for me.
Lovin the Mac mini m2 pro! Such a beast!!!
This is crazy ! D tier for iPhone 11 ? Even if the iPhone 12 comes out soon, that just mean you'll find crazy deal on the iPhone 11 especially around Back to school and Thanksgiving and they are still as good as when they launched
I don't agree with you on the 16" MacBook Pro. It is a solid machine, and will last for a while. I would give it an A rating.
My iPad Mini 2 from 2015 (2013 model) is still working well.
As a person who rocks the smaller phone whenever possible, I love my Pro small, as well as my iPad mini. I'd however love a iPad mini pro language too. I love it for sitting on the couch or in bed. With that said I want a larger pro for office work.
Just got the Se and it’s really good
I don't think the regular Airpods deserve B tier since I know many people who have pairs that last for less than a year. You can spend $20 on wireless earbuds that last longer and sound much better.
Just finished looking the video, and with that comment about the iPads, I remembered that Jobs actually felt that the iPad was his best product.