This the nicest machine I've seen and the most inspirational because everyone here with a garden shed and grandads old foldy outy toolbox he made as an apprentice thinks they can build something like it and they could. It's awesome. Its pretty and petite and sounds gorgeous and it ticks all the boxes.
Back in 1974 my dad built for me his interpretation of a cycle car using a Briggs and Stratton 5hp engine. What you have here reminds me of that. The steering was the same and at speeds over 5MPH it was not, shall we say, responsive? It was scary as hell for an 11 year old to drive. The chain drive fell off under load a couple of times. Fortunately it was not exposed so no one was injured, just really frustrated. A great memory. Thank you!
Damn I wish someone wouldve built something like this for me, or even just mentored me through the process. Love my Dad but he is mechanically r3tarded lol ...And my Grandfather was a 'car guy' but never much interested in helping us grandkids with projects of our own. He tried to teach me how to drive a manual when I was a teen and gave up after 2 trys.
As an owner of an Austin 7 Special this car actually frightens me and makes my 7 look advanced. Wire and Bobbin steering looks scary, I bet it’s great fun.
Thank You sir for the historic educational video. Great looking ( and working ) vehicle. My son and I have an appreciation for all things automotive. I make sure he sees your video so he can carry this information on to the next generation. We do not want history to be lost. Again, Thank You sir and Have A Wonderful Day! 🛻🚚🚛
Great job, very authentic feel to the machine; good thing you have a lot of tiny back roads to ride it in UK. Not the case on this side of the pond though. Cheers!
TY so very much , i was thinking about this, I have all this stuff.bikes mowers, welder, mill, all that , game on! I,m perusing (rewinding) this hard right now, again thanks!
Really incredible build!! I will be starting a TH-cam channel when it gets a bit warmer out here in the States called tentatively machines and motors. I will be building a 1928 Morgan to start with. Thank you for sharing!!
That's absolutely fantastic 👍😊 looks great fun too. How on earth you can register such a vehicle with today's safety regs god only knows but you have and its wonderful. I take my hat off to you sir 👏👏
What an outstanding build you did there. Couple of things that kinda scared me: the chain running along the floorboards by your feet and legs and the spool and wire steering BUT I figure it was the way it was done "back in the day"
@@SR-gs8zo Really, that's your reaction -- medical expenses and legalities? How did this video make it into your well-regulated safety bubble, in the first place?
I love the car but I also love the Tractor in your shed.I'm 55 I plowed my 1st small Feild with one like it at 12 years old. Your place looks like a bit of Heavan to me.
I'd be looking for a set of 1930's 28" x 2" balloon rims and tires for the cycle car. .In the 60's I was messing with bikes and those things were still about. The ride was brilliant.
I built a version of this as an 11 year old (with my tool and diemaker fathers help) Mine was a 1980s version, although the engine/clutch was from a 1973 Polaris Colt 175cc snowmobile mated to a 3 speed with reverse transmission from a 1970s riding lawnmower.
I've always wanted to know how they fit those bicycle wheels on the spindles and axles. Did they just machine down a thin spindle with the caged bearings?
If not mistaken, most average bicycles man’f’d back @ 1880’s into the early 1920’s, were made way more robust, employing much thicker hub/spindle designs… this might in fact be what inspired whomever handyman tinkerer of that era, with the notion of such wheels, hubs &, spindles being strong enough to convert into a four-wheeler. Awesome recreation of what would’ve been possibly more common to witness chuggin’ down some ROUGH dirt road back in the day, then seeing or hearing an actual auto-mobile Horse”LESS” Carriage! Which, for a lot of rural folk, might have seemed like witchcraft voodoo LOUD RACKET! I’d imagine operating this vehicle at that speed demonstrated here, “felt like” ONE HUNDRED MILES AN HOUR! 😳😲
A guy in California built a four seat four wheel little car out of bicycle frames and parts. Added a steering wheel and it was pedal powered. The two in the front pedaled it
The kickstart seems to be a long way from the engine ? Would a modern version with a small, fuel efficient engine using light weight materials be feasible ?
A leading question! The entity that is DVSA (including VOSA, DVLA and presumably the one you've mentioned as well) does not have a very consistent approach to road-registering bitsers. They view a car of this type of build and age to be defined by these 3 principle assemblies: Engine/Body/Chassis. If it can be established with reasonable certainty (whether through owners clubs records or whatever) that two out of those three existed on a vehicle back in the day, this improves the chances of success considerably. Tim's vehicle IS registered for the road, which must have taken an effort and a fair amount of research. It's problematic though as there are a lot of people who try and hoodwink DVSA and some of them do succeed.....this causes ever worsening problems for genuine enthusiasts as opposed to profiteers. The design of Tim's car does, i think, expose the foolhardiness of MOT exemption for 40 plus year old vehicles though. The Govt. is effectively relying on the owner/driver to go round and sound every single wheel spoke once a year, inspect the wire and bobbin steering, etc etc. A simpler MOT for older vehicles makes much more sense, they just can't be bothered to administrate it: General condition/sharp edges, Tyres/Wheels/Brakes, Steering, Suspension, Lights, Mirror/s, Wipers and washers where fitted, driver's view of the road, Fuel system condition. That's pretty much all that is needed, and the insurance industry would be much happier as a result. Modern composite brake linings with more friction coefficient would be a good idea for this car; it's fast, faster than it's brakes for sure. The knowledge that you CAN stop if you want to is a good thing to have in your pocket, even if it does put extra strain on the axle/chassis.
-Actually now that i look at it, i can't even see where the brakes are...possibly a transmission brake acting on the drivetrain. Not the best, but with narrow rear tyres it's probably academic. Would i drive it? Hell, Yes, but probably on the old airfield peri track just down the road from me, to get accustomed to it!
I am fascinated with the idea of building my own cyclecar. I can’t find a copy of the book in the video. Is there a way that I can still obtain a copy of my own?
I don’t know which is more interesting, the car or the fact that you can legally drive it on public roads. Great work!
You made my day : )
Well, can you drive it legally on public roads?
@@Scodiddly looks like he just did.
@@Scodiddlyhello? Hastings insurance.... There follows an interesting conversation 😂
I always think its only illegal if you get caught..you did not break a law yet unless the law sees it?
This the nicest machine I've seen and the most inspirational because everyone here with a garden shed and grandads old foldy outy toolbox he made as an apprentice thinks they can build something like it and they could. It's awesome. Its pretty and petite and sounds gorgeous and it ticks all the boxes.
'Grandads old, foldy outy tool box he made as an apprentice.'... made me smile..,.
i wanna make one myself
That is the best example of a cycle car I have ever seen. It is very fast for such a small motor.
Back in 1974 my dad built for me his interpretation of a cycle car using a Briggs and Stratton 5hp engine. What you have here reminds me of that. The steering was the same and at speeds over 5MPH it was not, shall we say, responsive? It was scary as hell for an 11 year old to drive. The chain drive fell off under load a couple of times. Fortunately it was not exposed so no one was injured, just really frustrated.
A great memory. Thank you!
It's called a go-cart!
Thanks for sharing you story :)
Damn I wish someone wouldve built something like this for me, or even just mentored me through the process. Love my Dad but he is mechanically r3tarded lol ...And my Grandfather was a 'car guy' but never much interested in helping us grandkids with projects of our own. He tried to teach me how to drive a manual when I was a teen and gave up after 2 trys.
I'm thinking of building one with a 4hp engine, how fast did your dad's go?
As an owner of an Austin 7 Special this car actually frightens me and makes my 7 look advanced. Wire and Bobbin steering looks scary, I bet it’s great fun.
This is one the most beautiful vehicle I have ever seen. The beaty of the simplicity.
Wahnsinn, das ist ja unglaublich! So ein feines Autochen! Prima Konstruktion.
Braucht sicher weniger als 3l, denk´ ich mal.
Beautiful and scary. That steering bobbin doesn’t look like it could clear a dead cat in the road.
I think its a great little car you sir have built a piece of history. Well done 👍👍
Cute little death trap! I like the way the chain cuts thru the floor board. Boy do I want one!
Lovely. Truly beautiful.
100 years later, Morgan is still selling stuff like this.
Better brakes, a bit faster.
But THIS car is the Real Deal.
Anybody can buy anything. Big deal.
Every once in awhile, I come back to this video. A moment of automotive zen!
Any real man would want a car like this.
Must be an adventurous ride. Love it.
Tis a thing of beauty, Sir. Well done!
An absolute work of art !
Thank You sir for the historic educational video. Great looking ( and working ) vehicle. My son and I have an appreciation for all things automotive. I make sure he sees your video so he can carry this information on to the next generation. We do not want history to be lost. Again, Thank You sir and Have A Wonderful Day! 🛻🚚🚛
I saw this at goodwood! My favorite part was the string type steering and the gorgeous fenders!
Да, да! Точно!
This is so briljant!
Love the chain coming through the cab floor. You wouldn't want to try and retrieve your dropped phone!
Great job, very authentic feel to the machine; good thing you have a lot of tiny back roads to ride it in UK. Not the case on this side of the pond though. Cheers!
There is if you live in bumphucked nowhere.
@@BI-11y_TheStormTrooper You'd get flattened by a Dually here in Florida, but golf carts and side-by-sides are OK.
TY so very much , i was thinking about this, I have all this stuff.bikes mowers, welder, mill, all that , game on!
I,m perusing (rewinding) this hard right now, again thanks!
A very interesting piece of kit. I always love finding the odd bits and bob's on TH-cam time to time. I can see these making a comeback sometime.
A thing of absolute beauty 😍 well done Sir 👍
Hermosa pieza de ingenio, hermoso vehículo, felicitaciones!!❤
A joy for the ears and the eyes.
Wow! That is a beautiful car. Well done. Look at that thing go!
Really incredible build!! I will be starting a TH-cam channel when it gets a bit warmer out here in the States called tentatively machines and motors. I will be building a 1928 Morgan to start with. Thank you for sharing!!
That's absolutely fantastic 👍😊 looks great fun too. How on earth you can register such a vehicle with today's safety regs god only knows but you have and its wonderful. I take my hat off to you sir 👏👏
What an outstanding build you did there. Couple of things that kinda scared me: the chain running along the floorboards by your feet and legs and the spool and wire steering BUT I figure it was the way it was done "back in the day"
The chain will simply drop to the ground, if it breaks. But that steering system... well, I've never seen _that_ before. It obviously works, though.
@@SR-gs8zo
Really, that's your reaction -- medical expenses and legalities? How did this video make it into your well-regulated safety bubble, in the first place?
If your steering breaks halfway to town you can just fix it with a bit of rope maybe not the chain though
A long time ago, it was a prank to reverse the loop of the wires while the owner was in the pub.
Is it dangerous enough though?
Brilliant!
I love the car but I also love the Tractor in your shed.I'm 55 I plowed my 1st small Feild with one like it at 12 years old. Your place looks like a bit of Heavan to me.
I like it. As both a car and a bicycle enthusiast i love the concept!
This.... Is a beautiful thing.
Great information. I've been wanting to build something like this for a long time now. Maybe it will happen after all. Thank you.
Same here,making plans,but still other projects coming along
How simple yet so amazing n practical at that time
That is a pretty cool cycle car. Great Job!
Amazing work! It would be a dream to drive!
I'd be looking for a set of 1930's 28" x 2" balloon rims and tires for the cycle car. .In the 60's I was messing with bikes and those things were still about. The ride was brilliant.
I _love_ this thing...
Fantastic CycleCar build.
SWEET ................ GOOD HIGHCSHOOL SHOP PROJECT THANK YOU.
It’s going at a great speed. 👍👍👍
Wonderful and amazing. Thank you for sharing this.
Looks wonderful!
Fantastic! I want one.
Maravilloso! Saludos desde Argentina
great rewiew, great job. thanks
she seems to clip along pretty nicely, good job mate! fun!
Very very good Mr Toad
Fabulous, I love it ! 👏
Simply Simple Great Job !
I built a version of this as an 11 year old (with my tool and diemaker fathers help)
Mine was a 1980s version, although the engine/clutch was from a 1973 Polaris Colt 175cc snowmobile mated to a 3 speed with reverse transmission from a 1970s riding lawnmower.
Definitely got the engine right 👍 thing will probably run forever ❤
Brilliant
Oh great, another project added to my list!
I expected it to be slow, with only a 350cc single cylinder but it gets along quite well; power to weight, its weight would be very little.
That thing flies!
Scary fast!
I've always wanted to know how they fit those bicycle wheels on the spindles and axles. Did they just machine down a thin spindle with the caged bearings?
If not mistaken, most average bicycles man’f’d back @ 1880’s into the early 1920’s, were made way more robust, employing much thicker hub/spindle designs… this might in fact be what inspired whomever handyman tinkerer of that era, with the notion of such wheels, hubs &, spindles being strong enough to convert into a four-wheeler. Awesome recreation of what would’ve been possibly more common to witness chuggin’ down some ROUGH dirt road back in the day, then seeing or hearing an actual auto-mobile Horse”LESS” Carriage! Which, for a lot of rural folk, might have seemed like witchcraft voodoo LOUD RACKET! I’d imagine operating this vehicle at that speed demonstrated here, “felt like” ONE HUNDRED MILES AN HOUR! 😳😲
Groovy ride man..
Nice old tractors too. I see a Ferguson and Allis Chalmers
Very cool indeed!
Wonderful.
Extraordinary! ❤
wonderful , thank you Sir :)
amazing vehicle
Does its gearbox act as a differential? I see both back wheels are chain driven.
My kind of transport,, love it
❤🎉 allsome work sounds and looks amazing very cool from cruzermans inventions 😁👍🎉🌟🦇
So cool!
Beautyful
A guy in California built a four seat four wheel little car out of bicycle frames and parts. Added a steering wheel and it was pedal powered. The two in the front pedaled it
Great video.
So cool.
This was originally a side cart for a motorcycle that was turned car?
That ride was scarry and exciting at the same time. 😱
Interested to know how much of this is original. You made the chassis? How have you retained what looks like the original registration number.
How did you get it registered for the road?
very cool
So cool
Love it .
Забавная колесница. :-) Успехов!
THAT is amazing
Sweet machine
That's wild!
Thanks. I just ordered the book from the UK to the states. Looking forward to getting this.
Nice job on your car. What type of clutch are you using?
The kickstart seems to be a long way from the engine ? Would a modern version with a small, fuel efficient engine using light weight materials be feasible ?
Tim, can a replica cyclecar (with its external handles, chain drives etc conform to the DVLA MVSA quadricycle build rules for roadworthiness?
A leading question! The entity that is DVSA (including VOSA, DVLA and presumably the one you've mentioned as well) does not have a very consistent approach to road-registering bitsers. They view a car of this type of build and age to be defined by these 3 principle assemblies: Engine/Body/Chassis. If it can be established with reasonable certainty (whether through owners clubs records or whatever) that two out of those three existed on a vehicle back in the day, this improves the chances of success considerably. Tim's vehicle IS registered for the road, which must have taken an effort and a fair amount of research. It's problematic though as there are a lot of people who try and hoodwink DVSA and some of them do succeed.....this causes ever worsening problems for genuine enthusiasts as opposed to profiteers.
The design of Tim's car does, i think, expose the foolhardiness of MOT exemption for 40 plus year old vehicles though. The Govt. is effectively relying on the owner/driver to go round and sound every single wheel spoke once a year, inspect the wire and bobbin steering, etc etc. A simpler MOT for older vehicles makes much more sense, they just can't be bothered to administrate it: General condition/sharp edges, Tyres/Wheels/Brakes, Steering, Suspension, Lights, Mirror/s, Wipers and washers where fitted, driver's view of the road, Fuel system condition. That's pretty much all that is needed, and the insurance industry would be much happier as a result.
Modern composite brake linings with more friction coefficient would be a good idea for this car; it's fast, faster than it's brakes for sure. The knowledge that you CAN stop if you want to is a good thing to have in your pocket, even if it does put extra strain on the axle/chassis.
-Actually now that i look at it, i can't even see where the brakes are...possibly a transmission brake acting on the drivetrain. Not the best, but with narrow rear tyres it's probably academic. Would i drive it? Hell, Yes, but probably on the old airfield peri track just down the road from me, to get accustomed to it!
(Oh, there's the brakes, just inboard of the sprockets..i should pay more attention..)
i under stand that some insurance companys like a test of sumkind
So Cool!
A good roadmap to make a modern equivalent.
It looks like it should be in an old Tom Swift book. Tom Swift and his Surprisingly Fast Cyclecar!
How or why, did we end up with 3 tonne town tractors, as a daily drive?.
body suit cliff jumping is way safer. good show i love these fine machines.
extendiameanor the answer is no martini decals
I am fascinated with the idea of building my own cyclecar. I can’t find a copy of the book in the video. Is there a way that I can still obtain a copy of my own?
I can’t find the book anywhere. Will there be a restock because I need it,
way cool
This thing is cool👍👍👍
Love it! How would one go about registering something like this in the UK?
Common Law Registration.
You can't ........ this idiot is driving on a public toad ILLEGALLY.
that is a great job
Way cool!