Interview Nightwish - Tuomas Holopainen (part 1)
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- Tuomas Holopainen about Dreams, Eva, Once, open letter to Tarja
FaceCulture spoke to Tuomas Holopainen from Nightwish about Time for one more dream, the open letter to Tarja, the song Bye Bye Beautiful, press pressure, being the bad guy, going on with the band, making a compilation, chosing a new singer, conquering America, the new singer Anette, Dark Passion Play and lots more!! (29/08/2007)
This guy is the mastermind behind Nightwish. :-)
hes so adorable when hes smiling
captain jack sparrow, is that you?
iBeckiex I thought the same😂 he really reminds him
Yeah, Finnish version, with blue eyes... 👀😍💙
Funny u should say that. if you look closely at his keyboard in the End of An Era concert he has a figure of jack on it
Actually Jack Sparrow copied Tuomas look..🤔😎😆
@@charleshornbeak9078not true at all. Check dates vs image
TOUMAS IS SO BEAUTIFUL *.*
I LOVE HIM XD
His wife is so lucky.....
Are you really sure?
@@ramonapetermann9585 he seems like 'hard work' for a partner. I bet his wife is a very strong and an emotionally intelligent person. He has a thing for powerful women,relies on them and praises them but hates it when their worth is not fueled by his adoration for them. This dude gives me 'emotionally volatile'-vibes. Easily led. You need the right person to be able to deal with his ways. The kinda guy who needs his space but constant reassurance. The kind of guy whom you can take a break from when he gets too much into his feelings. Yes; he is charming, handsome and has sex-appeal on a surface level. Having said that; he is also a guy who seems very needy and emotionally immature. Willing to fall on his sword(in dramatic fashion) because he can't process deep emotions. Which is why he writes them down. Pain breeds creativity. I bet his wife is able to deal with him because she's not needy and emotionally mature and can call him out on his shit to snap him back into reality.
"Grown ups don't fire people without notice; they construct an exit that leaves all parties on good terms to benefit the ultimate goal: Nightwish drawing an audience to play for.
Note; these are just my thoughts and my poor attempt at psychoanalysis. I
Tuomas came from a future Gravitationally Bound System of arpeggios, interstellar melodies & symphonies combined with dark matter!!!
That's the best comment I've ever read in my life xDDDDD
I adore him so much. His writing is brilliant.
I hope they can make peace with Annette and Tarja one day
That would be nice, but first they owe a huuuuuuuuge public apology to both of them.
Guys, do yourselves a favor and just pause at 0:19
Sfefi Pinsone
why????
Thanks
Why?
He's a nice man and don't deserve all this hate, as he said it was a decision by the 4 guys, not just by him, and they have they motives.
I love Toumas so much, he's a music genius but he's not actually nice. Making "Master passion greed" or "bye bye beautiful" was a petty move. And he considers himself so important as the leader of the band, he barely let Floor talk in interviews. Keeps interrupting and answering in her place
The letter was lies and omissions, its function was to demonize and humiliate Tarja publically. There was nothing positive about it. And NOW he says he has regrets about the letter.
@@amberxv4777 Well he is a musician, he has every right to make songs of things that bothers him. And... well, he is the leader of the band, rest of the band agrees. Tuomas is not a dictator, band members has said that Nightwish is a democracy but there is also leader in democracy. I haven't noticed that Tuomas wouldn't let Floor to answer or speak. Could you link at least few of those kind of interviews.
@@Aurinkohirvi I think the function was to give very clear reasons why Tarja had to leave. I don't think that Tarja is a bad person but Tarja was always heading to her solo career, Nightwish was always a phase - very long one gotta say. There was problems in the band and also guys didn't handle those well. Then came Marcelo and he supported Tarja and he thought only Tarjas interests. And wanted more money from gigs etc.
But yeah, later on Tuomas has admitted that the letter was neither right nor professional way to handle things.
@@venla5375 Always heading to her solo career, the 9 years? Then why did she fight to cut the number of gigs? Why not just go? She fought to make it possible she could stay. I suppose you haven't watched Tarja's press confrence, have you?
Marcelo didn't negotiate nor decide the rewards from the gigs. He was only Tarja's agent, it was Nightwish the band's agents that negotiated the rewards from the gigs.
Tarja and Marcelo wanted less gigs because Tarja's voice couldn't do 5 gigs a week, the tours were too heavy for her. They tried to cut smaller gigs away, and for that they were blamed to be greedy. But I ask you, which is greedy, to cut the number of gigs, or to not agree to that and drive your vocalist exhausted instead?
"It's none of their business… It's better ever really should just shut up about the whole thing…", Says the man who made it to everyone's business with the open letter…
And he still had to make another comment after saying that, LOL!
He's like "it wasn't just me! It wasn't just me!", It was all democratic… Yeah and he's the one who wrote the letter and he's the one who had all those issues with Tarja and her husband… The band will always follow him because he's the leader, so of course it looked "democratic".
@@Rosannasfriend Yeah, no one is buying that it was a democratic decision. An open letter! It couldn't have been more childish and cruel. Only a fucked up mind can come up with that and actually think it's a good idea.
that’s what jealousy do. make you not think clearly enough and make you do bad decisions, that probably you’ll regret.
@@Rosannasfriend ...exactly...it is well known that he runs that band unchallenged....
@satislikev Agreed! He tried to be funny, but nobody laughed. And if I had the chance, I should respond: YES, there are things we don't know. YES, we're the outsiders. YES, the decision was made by all 4 guys. BUT for heaven's sake, you just don't write a damn letter to say you fire a member of the band with whom you worked for 9 years and known even more!!! You could have a talk, a discussion, something! Or at least, tell her face to face "You're fired!"
His eyes
@Kry Kry Stott bruh
He bites like a wolf. Publicly.
Ok guys, i miss Tarja too, i miss her voice in Nightwish so much but we have to move on from that situation =/ Tuomas is an amazing musician and Nightwish is still so great! And u must try to understand Tuomas, i mean, he had to let go to what o think was one of his best friends! they were making music for 9 years!! It hurts for him too =(
he looks kind of sad while talking about Tarja...
Maybe Tuomas and the rest of the band could come to the point where it's been long enough of a separation to actually try again with Tarja....maybe both sides could look at what happened in the past and forgive what had upset them 9 years ago. Maybe Tarja has learned from mistakes she made before being dismissed.... both sides I'm sure said some things they shouldn't have....but, there all adults, maybe they could work it out.... and I for one would love to see them get back together. Too me it's all so sad and Tuomas looks so sad when he talks about it.
I would just like to see Tuomas and Tarja work there magic together again. Sorry if some of you disagree but that's how I wish it would work out someday....if not this year maybe sometime in the near future.
I think that as long as she is married to her husband, they will probably not want to have a reunion even though they are all on better terms now
Jerry Myers My friend I've been waiting for that to happen for a very long time, and I haven't given up. We are in the same page. That's not the way things should have ended
Jerry Myers I think I recall Tarja saying something about this at one point. That it would never happen again. Made me sad.
Jerry Myers but then again. They could try to pull this card out when their popularity starts waning eventually, and it will. Most bands come and go, and they'll probably pull a reunion/farewell tour out of desperation when they lose the public eye's attention.
@@deutschesmaedchen Um. It can be said that Nightwish is hugely popular underground band. Tuomas is a genius, they make great music that can't be copied. Fans go to concerts and buy the albums. Nightwish is so important to them, and they're still gaining more fans even though they've been around already 20 years. I really don't see that Nightwish would somehow do so poorly that they would have to beg Tarja back to band to make Nightwish succesful band again.
"I don't regret the open letter"
"It's actually none of people's business"
Some extremely talented people can be so stupid. lol He himself made people see their personal business, personal relationship.
I couldn't agree more! He made this "business" as public as possible and then he asks people (essentially the fans who make or break the band and it is their business anyway) to mind their own business. I think it is pretty arrogant of him to say that he has no regrets about it.
Well, i think they put their fingers very official on tarja with that open letter. Of course, they had to explain why she was kicked out of the band, but the open letter was very cruel i think. You don't blame someone in the public, that's not nice. So i think tuomas ( even if i have to say he is an absolutely mastermind about writing songs), should not react this angry or "pissed of", he himself made it public, so of course people have an opinion and ask questions. He wanted to have those people on his side by doing this, and now he sees that he gets blamed for it. Maybe he didn't see it coming, that people would find it unfair to do that. They might have had their reasons to made this decision, but tuomas: You made your bed, so sleep in it. It's just the way it is. If you're sorry for what you did, then apologize to her. If you're not sorry, then don't react like that. ( that's my very unprofessional opinion) 🙃
What they did with that public letter was very immature and of bad taste , dirty laundry must be washed at home
@@GitanAnimex then they "did it right" when firing Anette but people blamed them anyway
@@nocturnal03 they did it in private but stil everybody knew it wasnt a clean cut so the thinking was that maybe they had a problem with female vocalist
Correction. If it weren't for Tuomas, there would be no Nightwish. He was the one who decided to start a new project and Tarja didn't join until later. So without Tuomas, Nightwish would be non-existent.
Gotta say, I think it's not that simple. At first Tuomas had idea of having some short project, acoustic guitar, singing, keyboards... Then Tuomas and Emppu heard Tarja singing, and decided to make bigger music. So yes, there wouldn't all this beautiful music without Tuomas, but it was Tarjas voice that kinda gave Tuomas opportunity to make this great music. Now NIghtwish is bigger than ever and they are doing great with Floor.
Tarja was his muse. He wrote so much of that beautiful music under the influence of her voice. Nightwish wouldn't have been Nightwish without her either.
I write music, and sometimes upload it. I chose the Korg I play because Tuomas bought one. I love you Tuomas, your music. That is what I listen for. There are two few good songwriters today. Tuomas I think you are the best the world has seen in many decades. You are a legend. People argue over who sings your songs because THEY are the best songs on earth...
You got the point about "do not forget the Tarja Era of Nightwish". I approve. However, you're wrong about that there's no Nightwish anymore. In fact they really are. Just as Tuomas said, it would be the best to shut up about the whole thing. I understand why he thinks this way after 7 years. Although, hardly I could when the whole thing has happened. NW has proved they have not just one face, one voice. Their created world around the songs that truly make them what they really are.
he has such pretty eye shadow^^
He's lovely.
When I read the open letter to Tarja i didn't think Tuomas could ever become more pitiful. Until I just saw him trying to do the "Oh, it was the whole band, it wasn't just me, i was just the spokesman" thing.
If you're a low, hostile person... then at least be honest about it and don't try to innocent yourself later!
I'd loose myself into those eyes, into that gaze... @.@
I really love symphonic rock/metal (Within Temptation and The Gathering are my faves so far) and I just got into Nightwish not long ago. I knew Tuomas Holopainen was an amazing songwriter, but I didn't get all the rabid adoration he was getting online from female fans. Well. As a curious female fan...I came, I saw, I fell hard. Tuomas is without a doubt the sexiest man in symphonic metal. Seems rather shy too. XD
Sometimes there is something incestuous about band member relationships, this is when in a band there are both males and females who are heterosexual. They can't help it, they travel together, stay together, play together, stick together through thick and thin. They either succeed or fail together, and each and every show may be a gamble because music other than folk or classical can be very emotional to play and sing.
I'm gay and I'm more gay for Tuomas.
wow he knows english pretty god damn well! he actually just sounds Irish! :D
Johnny Depp's long lost twin brother
YOU wrote the letter Tuomas, and it has lies and omissions to leave wrong idea to people. The meaning of the letter was to humiliate and demonize publically, to maximize the hurt. NOW you say you regret it and it was wrong: good thing, mayhaps you have matured. Back then it was about revenge.
i-want-you-NOW Tuomas!:DD!
As someone who was in a moderately successful band with a female lead singer of which whom I had a very close relationship with and then had to part ways, I can empathize with Tuomas here. No matter what anyone admits, whenever brought up, it will always trigger a special bittersweet part of us that is hard to relive and talk about. When you create something with someone and grow with them, especially for years, they embed a place in your soul for life. Nothing you can do about it.
close relationship, lol...he drove her like a field horse,..provided poor security, no privacy..made her live on a smoked up, liquored, 24 hour party bus full of groupies....abandoned her when she was attacked onstage, scheduled concerts and sold tickets behind her back and then, after she brilliantly performed in an ill state on her last night, did not take the time to see how she was feeling, just handed her her walking papers and went to celebrate to a party they planned far in advance, without ever inviting Tarja..real class..and in subsequent interviews, he showed no remorse or regret for how he handled it
@@marchon2578 I'm not familiar with the details, but I can tell you, band life can be very ugly. Still, there is something about creating something together and putting it out there to the world that provides a unique bond with someone. At one point, I'm sure their relationship was all in the best intentions and overtime human flaw messed things up. It's a familiar story in that life.
@@jamesmartin2740 no doubt, after years of being ignored Tarja was tired of it and announced a solo career...she did him a favor by agreeing to stay a bit longer giving and receiving consent for her terms...then they reneged on it and fired her in a very ugly hurtful way...you can hear Tuomas having no regrets, even though in many subsequent songs he professes to be remorseful (to gain sympathy)...notice how he warns people who find his actions and statements conflicting, to just shut up...very mature and classy
@@marchon2578 You seem pretty familiar with what was going on internally in the band. Is that the case?
@@jamesmartin2740 i was pr man for Spinefarm (their label)...met Tarja in 1998, about a year and a half before she hired Marcelo who at first struck me as a bit too serious...just opposite of Tarja who did not like confrontation..looked very uneasy, most of the time and used humor to deal with adversity ( loved listening to her warmup sessions)...'( she also looked very tired on many occasions and most insecure, sidling up with me and Ewo, even on that smoky, 24 hour party tour bus.. stayed mostly with their defacto manager Ewo during concerts and personally seen her on many occasionsalmost collapsing during concerts (in the early days she was most active onstage)but she always went back like a champ...her manager used, me on occasion, as a go between himself and Ewo and knew about her decision to go solo before they did...her terms of remaining for a bit longer were accepted but after she relocated to Argentina communication became more discordant..Marcelo asked me to relay his messages because (he claimed, he was being stonewalled and showed me hard copies of emails)...but then they posted the letter and the whole roof collapsed on Tuomas
the only man that i could marry!
That would be a negative; he is not Johnny Depp, although he is obviously inspired by his work.
Papasito,
Details is none of OUTSIDERS business and everybody is better to just SHUT UP about whole thing... yeah nice way to talk to your fan...
I don't want to offend you. He was right, I'm sure that he related it to the decision. The decision is really not anyone other's business. There are some private things in live...
yeaahh im totally agree about hans matheson (HANDSOME)but..ville valo?? not sure
I couldnt choose between TH and HM
You 2 dont miss each other clearly. lol
Tuomas, i love you so much!! It unreal!!
I started hating tuomas when I heard the words:" The Media was the hardest part of it", I mean, yes I believe him that it was really hard.. But, let's being realistic, he knew how it would end, when he fired, oh sorry when ALL FOUR MEMBERS fire Tarja.... Also they were friends, how heartless can a person be to say the media was the hardest part, and what is with the lost friendship??? Sorry but I just can't understand it... I still love Nightwish but he lost a lot of my respect with these words
Well. The band has stated that they didn't talk for a year. Tarja has said that they were never friends.
Gotta ask, are you a Finn? If you're not, you have no idea what media circus there was for weeks and MONTHS in Finland after they kicked Tarja out. In that time Nightwish wasn't underground at all, everyone listened Nightwish or atleast knew them. Every damn magazine was full of Nightwish: what happened, is this end of Nightwish, did Tuomas make the decision alone, where is Tarja, what really happened, is someone lying, is Tuomas in love with Tarja... On and on for months. Marco has said that medias point of view was something like: "Oh, so you then fired princess of Finland". And that is what it exactly was. And Tuomas alone took all the shit because he handled the media circus. Of course it was hard for Tarja too, I don't say that. But I think that it's so awfull that still this day some people say really nasty things of Tuomas, that he is a psycho and does all the decisions in the band.
He told them off!!!!!!
After Tuomas essentially requests the interviewer shut up about the open letter, he still asks "But you'd do the same?" Dude, wtf 🤦♂️
I would say that it is the job of an interviewer to not just shut up of the one that is being interviewed says so. As an interviewer you should get as much as you want. Makes better interviews.
sounds like a very sweetheart interview, which is what Tuomas likes
@@robertklein1497 ... never asking a tough question is equivalent to not interviewing at all
Now we're talking :P
I can understand why he thinks this way after so many years. I get the point of his decision. However, right when the whole thing has happened I could not. Anyway, the "NW-Tarja" story will never be told to the public totally. We must accept. In the other hand, it's a little personal for the band, especially for Tuomas.
haha i dont think he's shy.he just doesnt like talking too much
@RagingQuietFury best comment ever xD
No, please not let us not brush his hair, it´s best when it´s in trouble!! Hugs dear....!
you are nothing without TARJA!!!!!!
What about now
He’s the reason why you know who Tarja is. :)
Actually Tarja is nothing without him. Her solo career has flopped.
Stephen, considering Tarja isn't in a regular band, she has done really well. Was Floor's Northward, Marko's Tarot or Tuomas' Auri bigger hits than Tarja? 3 x no. When did Nightwish sell platinum in Russia? Never, but Tarja has sold double platinum. Even her Christmas album sold 2 x platinum in Finland. She is very popular in Finland, Russia and Central Europe. She regularly makes top 5 in the Finnish list and in top 10 many other countries. Tarja doesn't only perform, but also composes her own songs either alone or in collaboration with someone else. I think what matters to her is that she likes what she does.
Stephen Dunn "her career flopped" bruh you must be blind😂😂🤦🏻♀️ she's doing better than she ever was when she was with Nightwish🤷🏻♀️ her career isn't even near being a flop she had thousands of supporters who fucking love her unconditionally and if you're too dumb to notice that it's not our fault☺️🖕
Why on earth is ths divided into four parts?!
Me too, I'm tired of both sides {both Annete haters and Tarja haters}! Of course I don't like the way Annete
He looks like he is going to beat the shit out of you if you do or say something wrong.
Yes he is talented, he wrote the songs but without Tarja there would be NO NIGHTWISH!
True..... No Nightwish without Tarja
I hope he's not acting as stuck up with Floor just as he did with Tarja and Anette. Floor, hang in there. He's afraid of losing you so if he's smart enough he will restrain from being a pain in the ass. lol
There's Tarja! IT'S JUST YOUR FUCKING OPINION THAT THERE'S NO TARJA ANYMORE AS IT IS MY FUCKING OPINION THAT THERE'S NO NIGHTWISH ANYMORE! STOP TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT TARJA ERA TOO! YOU'RE CALLING TARJA FANS HATERS BUT IT'S THE OPPOSITE ACTUALLY!
I'm sure Tuomas is quite a character in real life.. he's an artist.. van gogh cut of he's ear just to mention.. But Tuomas still sounds and looks sensible enough to me in the whole Tarja thing.
The make-up artist thought he had Floor in his chair.
Uhm are you stupid? This was 2007
@@mikebarnes7441 .. Johny Depp , then
march on that’s a much better analogy Lol
sings the old songs but I'll just say my opinion why I don't like it! Not just post a stupid comment saying that she's a bitch and blah blah....
I think she's good at the new song though Storytime, I haven't heard anything else yet though....
He is still rude even to us , their fans. Wtf mean is shut up ? Or this is non of our business ? Anybody can say their opinions . Anybody can discuss. I hate them for their sick letter , their sick words about '' cultural differences combined with love...'' This is a shame ! I can't even listen their old songs anymore. Because their band relationship was a lie and i can't stand this.
+Hande Ozenc Look, expressing an opinion and pointing fingers is not the same thing. Try to look at it from his point of view, we the fans were not there when the whole Tarja dismissal thing happened, and we certainly don't know what their "band relationship" was like(the DVDs can only show you so much), therefore he says it's none of our business to pass judgment when we don't have all the facts. In his view, we were the rude ones. We're not part of the Nightwish entourage involved with the band's behind the scenes politics, we're just fans. Fans buy their records and go to their shows, but they do not take part in anything that happens with the band on a personal level. Therefore from Tuomas' standpoint, the band doesn't owe us explanations about it. Sure, he should've chosen his words better, but he was visibly annoyed with the interviewer and at the time this interview occurred(2007), the whole thing was still relatively new and they were sick and tired of talking about it. Try to put yourself in his shoes and you might see where he was coming from, despite not choosing the best words for it. Besides, Tuomas is not really known for giving the best interviews. That's usually either Marco or currently Floor. Interviews with Tuomas almost always feel kind of awkward.
We are all pissed about it girl but it is what it is. Also, with all due respect I must say that you might have a point but fact is YOU DO NOT KNOW what led to this guys to "get rid" of Tarja. Hande Ozenc
Dead on boss!!! KalvinEllis
Simphonyh Man
Thanks bro.
You know it man :)
Quanta ignorancia de pai e mae....
Let's be honest Nightwish continued to have a great career without Tarja. And again her solo career has flopped. And last but not least, when 4 people agreed to kick her out of the band, maybe she was the problem.
Those 4 people might have wanted to keep the job. Think about it.
Anette was fired too. Again, think about it.
Guess who's the problem?
@@weirdnoise11 And Sami was fired.
Or those 4 people agreed with him as they all co-signed the letter and stayed in the band for 10-15 years after which they wouldn't have done if they considered it was such a morally reprehensible thing done against their wishes.
Or Anette was causing conflict by demanding tours be cancelled/postponed instead of accepting a temporary replacement because of her ego.
If Tuomas is "the problem" then... you don't even have Nightwish. The way people speak like lineup changes are such an abhorrent, unusual thing is funny.
His eyes
he looks like a wolf*