8:27 man, if 15-20 miles of bike riding can make you have only 3/10 pain level... i'll gradually build my cardio to that level. Also, want to say thank you for everything you've put on this channel, i really hope for the best of luck for you in bodybuilding and life in general.
There ya go! Yes cardio has several benefits and I can definitely tell you you’ll be better off for doing it. Thanks so much for the kind words I’m glad you found some of the content helpful!
Can you please make a video on what to do before limb lengthing like 1-what supplment to use 2 months before it 2-what stretching Exercise do you recommend before the surgery 3-ideal weight for the surgery for each height 4- going alittel bit futher than safe zone what will happen like a 1cm or 1.5 or 2 5- should you get alot of sleep before doing the surgery 6-if you want to do 2 surgeries how much time should you wait until the next surgery This is more like a summary to the all of the things that you should do or not before or after the procedure i know you did discuss about some of them but explaining all of these in a short video will make a better pov and thank you
I actually don't think he has. Today he said he's tired after PT and OT but I'll ask if he would do a forum thread. It'd be cool if he'd be up to do an anonymous audio only live stream Q&A (my face only shown) in the future on here but not sure if he's keeping this confidential
They don't completely go away. They just fade. Meaning you will have to give it time about 2.5 to 3yrs for full fade. Then if you still want them gone more (which they are barely seen) just go for laser removal but it's not necessary unless you're a runway fashion model lol
Hey man, very informative channel have been binge watching your videos as of late. I was wondering what your thoughts were on training legs in general can it hinder you when it comes extending during the procedure? I read on LL forum some bodybuilder could only extend up to 2 cm because the pain was so high due to how big his quads were hence I've been very hesitant on training legs since reading this and turned from training it twice a week to only once week with my one session not being as intense. My quads are a bit above average in length and I'm very lean so am a bit already scared that it would hurt me when I get LL done. Could you please give me your input if training legs is okay to do pre LL for someone who is a serious bodybuilder?
Great question and one that needs to be addressed. So typically you would be able to keep doing whatever you've been doing but just add stretching in. However if you just recently decide to go from 1x per week to 2x per week 2 to 3 months prior to surgery you may get tighter than someone who isn't as muscular or doesn't train as hard at all. Since you've dropped to once a week, and if you're okay with your leg development there, that is an ideal place to stay. You don't need any extra inflammation or tension from excessive leg training if you haven't been accustomed to it for a while. Having strong legs will help you with recovery more than those who skip training legs trust me. Muscle strength is a necessity but not NEW muscle or NEW strength you just started building. But be sure to stretch after all leg training regardless of what you do and scale it up 3-6 months pre-op. You will get tight regardless but it won't be as bad if you keep things maintained and not increase prior to procedure
@@Cyborg4Life I forgot to mention that I don't plan on getting this surgery for another 2 years, can i still train it optimally for another year before going full maintenance mode or is it better just to hold off and maintain what I already have? Also, what are the optimal stretches? I'd really like it if you made a video covering this topic , because im sure there are a handful of bodybuilders/athletes who have the same question and I don't see it answered on LL forum or anywhere else so you're the only source as of now for accurate info on this particular subject
@@effemmeli Oh yeah in that case you can still train normally till about 3-6 months prior to the surgery as you can transition into maintenance mode very quickly. The optimal stretches would be ones you can do are kind of like the ones I did in this video: th-cam.com/video/crm3KytnFTE/w-d-xo.html prior to surgery and here are ones you would do post surgery: th-cam.com/video/EUrJjClu2qo/w-d-xo.html. But I am also working with a few LL patients to help revamp my rebuilding and rehab program I did after being discharged from PT after about 10-12 weeks after surgery. So yeah, you can hit the weights hard for now but once you confirm your surgery, just maintain at about 4-6 months out. And I really appreciate the support of my content as I just wanted to create a resource I wish I had years ago when I was planning for LL surgery
Nothing really. I mean I actually tried to find a difference last month but nothing. However in the first 2yrs I had some residual stiffness and tenderness at the knee where the internal nail was inserted
Hydrotherapy is a fantastic recovery tool to expedite the rehab process. You'd just have to ensure you're at a point in distraction when your doctor says you can start it. But yes, it prevents reckless weight bearing while you reap the ROM benefits for a more normal walking gait sooner
So after a year does your leg feel normal like how it felt before the surgery or does it feel different and can you still do the same things you done before like wrestle play football basketball or do you feel sluggish?
So I know that for the first 2 years it did feel different and I wasn't able to be nearly as agile or nimble or even do any sort of tumbling ground work. However once my bone fully healed, patellar tendon was healed after device removal and restrengthening the muscles I gradually noticed a more natural feel. As of now (nearly 8yrs later) I am as good as before. I could be better, but I've been kinda lazy with my cardio conditioning lately lol
@@magueddeme1550 Yup normal just like before! The bone ridge is back (meaning the bone is fully remodeled-usually takes a few years), knee is fully stable, muscle strength is back etc. The only thing I will say is that because of my heavy weight training on calves, I can get tighter easier IF I don't keep up with my stretching aka get lazy. This is because I was always a tighter person and so I do my best to stretch after I lift but occasionally I slip off and will notice the slightest bit more of tension than when I do stretch. So occasional minimal stretching (like 30sec to 1min 2-3x per week) may be the one life long thing, anyone who gets LL done, has to do...at least for athletes in my opinion
Sumit Anand typically over 55 things start to get more difficult so under 50 is best. You could go back to the office as long as you can manage the lengthening and crutches in about 3 months but usually about 4.5 maybe 5 months is best to be safe
Yeah that seems to be the expert consensus among experienced pros in the game. Of course they mention there are outliers who could safely get more but rarely. 5 inches is a huge increase anyway though
That's a great question I actually am planning to do a video on that soon but to answer yes at least give it about a month between surgeries for safety
Having muscle isn't a problem but usually if you have muscle that isn't flexible then you will have a more challenging time. But yes stretching is the key!
@@Cyborg4Life i am at 6 cm now on my tibia so far no problem at all good callus and no tightness felt so can i go ahead untill i find it hard and painful
8:27 man, if 15-20 miles of bike riding can make you have only 3/10 pain level... i'll gradually build my cardio to that level.
Also, want to say thank you for everything you've put on this channel, i really hope for the best of luck for you in bodybuilding and life in general.
There ya go! Yes cardio has several benefits and I can definitely tell you you’ll be better off for doing it.
Thanks so much for the kind words I’m glad you found some of the content helpful!
Cyborg 4 life : brother your physic is really good and you look like a John Cena.
lol you can't see me!
Can you please make a video on what to do before limb lengthing like
1-what supplment to use 2 months before it
2-what stretching Exercise do you recommend before the surgery
3-ideal weight for the surgery for each height
4- going alittel bit futher than safe zone what will happen like a 1cm or 1.5 or 2
5- should you get alot of sleep before doing the surgery
6-if you want to do 2 surgeries how much time should you wait until the next surgery
This is more like a summary to the all of the things that you should do or not before or after the procedure i know you did discuss about some of them but explaining all of these in a short video will make a better pov and thank you
Sure here you go: cyborg4life.com/secrets
@@Cyborg4Life thankss >3
Is the person you were talking about going to make a diary on the forum?
Thanks, keep up the great work!
I actually don't think he has. Today he said he's tired after PT and OT but I'll ask if he would do a forum thread. It'd be cool if he'd be up to do an anonymous audio only live stream Q&A (my face only shown) in the future on here but not sure if he's keeping this confidential
Your videos are awesome. Please keep going
Will do thanks!
Cyborg 4 life : How long after surgery does the scar remove?
They don't completely go away. They just fade. Meaning you will have to give it time about 2.5 to 3yrs for full fade. Then if you still want them gone more (which they are barely seen) just go for laser removal but it's not necessary unless you're a runway fashion model lol
Hey man, very informative channel have been binge watching your videos as of late. I was wondering what your thoughts were on training legs in general can it hinder you when it comes extending during the procedure? I read on LL forum some bodybuilder could only extend up to 2 cm because the pain was so high due to how big his quads were hence I've been very hesitant on training legs since reading this and turned from training it twice a week to only once week with my one session not being as intense. My quads are a bit above average in length and I'm very lean so am a bit already scared that it would hurt me when I get LL done. Could you please give me your input if training legs is okay to do pre LL for someone who is a serious bodybuilder?
Great question and one that needs to be addressed. So typically you would be able to keep doing whatever you've been doing but just add stretching in. However if you just recently decide to go from 1x per week to 2x per week 2 to 3 months prior to surgery you may get tighter than someone who isn't as muscular or doesn't train as hard at all. Since you've dropped to once a week, and if you're okay with your leg development there, that is an ideal place to stay. You don't need any extra inflammation or tension from excessive leg training if you haven't been accustomed to it for a while. Having strong legs will help you with recovery more than those who skip training legs trust me. Muscle strength is a necessity but not NEW muscle or NEW strength you just started building. But be sure to stretch after all leg training regardless of what you do and scale it up 3-6 months pre-op. You will get tight regardless but it won't be as bad if you keep things maintained and not increase prior to procedure
@@Cyborg4Life I forgot to mention that I don't plan on getting this surgery for another 2 years, can i still train it optimally for another year before going full maintenance mode or is it better just to hold off and maintain what I already have? Also, what are the optimal stretches? I'd really like it if you made a video covering this topic , because im sure there are a handful of bodybuilders/athletes who have the same question and I don't see it answered on LL forum or anywhere else so you're the only source as of now for accurate info on this particular subject
@@effemmeli Oh yeah in that case you can still train normally till about 3-6 months prior to the surgery as you can transition into maintenance mode very quickly. The optimal stretches would be ones you can do are kind of like the ones I did in this video: th-cam.com/video/crm3KytnFTE/w-d-xo.html prior to surgery and here are ones you would do post surgery: th-cam.com/video/EUrJjClu2qo/w-d-xo.html. But I am also working with a few LL patients to help revamp my rebuilding and rehab program I did after being discharged from PT after about 10-12 weeks after surgery. So yeah, you can hit the weights hard for now but once you confirm your surgery, just maintain at about 4-6 months out. And I really appreciate the support of my content as I just wanted to create a resource I wish I had years ago when I was planning for LL surgery
Cyborg 4 life : At what age do men's growth plates close?
Typically after puberty but sometimes they can close much later like early to mid 20's
Super bro
Cyborg 4 life : In between this surgery, I can take Human Growth Hormone injection to increase height by gapping.
You know I'm not too sure. The doctor would know how HGH interacts with it
Cyborg 4 life what are the things that you could do with your legs before your surgery that you can not do now
Nothing really. I mean I actually tried to find a difference last month but nothing. However in the first 2yrs I had some residual stiffness and tenderness at the knee where the internal nail was inserted
Hi Bro, Does Hydrotherapy is very much important after LL surgery? or else Physiotherapy itself ok?
Hydrotherapy is a fantastic recovery tool to expedite the rehab process. You'd just have to ensure you're at a point in distraction when your doctor says you can start it. But yes, it prevents reckless weight bearing while you reap the ROM benefits for a more normal walking gait sooner
So after a year does your leg feel normal like how it felt before the surgery or does it feel different and can you still do the same things you done before like wrestle play football basketball or do you feel sluggish?
So I know that for the first 2 years it did feel different and I wasn't able to be nearly as agile or nimble or even do any sort of tumbling ground work. However once my bone fully healed, patellar tendon was healed after device removal and restrengthening the muscles I gradually noticed a more natural feel.
As of now (nearly 8yrs later) I am as good as before. I could be better, but I've been kinda lazy with my cardio conditioning lately lol
Cyborg 4 Life thanks for the response so you don’t feel anything no more in your leg it’s just normal like before the surgery
@@magueddeme1550 Yup normal just like before! The bone ridge is back (meaning the bone is fully remodeled-usually takes a few years), knee is fully stable, muscle strength is back etc.
The only thing I will say is that because of my heavy weight training on calves, I can get tighter easier IF I don't keep up with my stretching aka get lazy. This is because I was always a tighter person and so I do my best to stretch after I lift but occasionally I slip off and will notice the slightest bit more of tension than when I do stretch.
So occasional minimal stretching (like 30sec to 1min 2-3x per week) may be the one life long thing, anyone who gets LL done, has to do...at least for athletes in my opinion
Keep doing
What’s the age limit for limb lengthing surgery ? And how long before i can join office again ?
Sumit Anand typically over 55 things start to get more difficult so under 50 is best. You could go back to the office as long as you can manage the lengthening and crutches in about 3 months but usually about 4.5 maybe 5 months is best to be safe
Cyborg 4 Life Thanks
When does it really hurt? Does it hurt during the surgery or after?
More so the first 3 days after the surgery up to 2 weeks a bit. But after that it usually drops off bigtime
@@Cyborg4Life Thanks for the info man
So the maximum height you could gain by lengthening both sections(tibia and femur)is about 5in right?
Yeah that seems to be the expert consensus among experienced pros in the game. Of course they mention there are outliers who could safely get more but rarely. 5 inches is a huge increase anyway though
Just curious how come you stopped height increase at 5’9, Was that as far as you could safely go?
Yeah that's all I needed back then but the more I make content on it the more it "grows" on me to get it done in future jk lol
Cyborg 4 Life lol your vids are making me consider it although I am only 19 so gonna be a few years
@@elijahevans8852 nice I'll keep the content going so you have the info you need
hi... if i want do surgery 2 times, after the first sergery, when can i do the second surgery? How about after 3 month?
That's a great question I actually am planning to do a video on that soon but to answer yes at least give it about a month between surgeries for safety
Can extra mass in your thigh helps you for your femur lengthening? Because extra muscle mass gives you the opportunity to strecth more. Is it not?
Having muscle isn't a problem but usually if you have muscle that isn't flexible then you will have a more challenging time. But yes stretching is the key!
Does calf size increase after surgery? Coz I want that side effect :)
Yes it does at least temporarily upon rebuilding post consolidation
I really wonder if you would go under another LL then you have to change your name into ultra cyborg
Hahaha exactly. But yeah I am not going to say never
Can we lengthen more if we are in good shape and good flexibility like 7.5 cm on tibias
No that's too much
@@Cyborg4Life i am at 6 cm now on my tibia so far no problem at all good callus and no tightness felt so can i go ahead untill i find it hard and painful
Recover time how long
It depends on person, length, and pre-op health/fitness; but typically anywhere from 5 months for the femurs and 5-6 months for the tibiae
Tk bro