This bought back many memories of my hours in a PA-28R-200 Arrow straight wing many years ago - a very nice aircraft to fly - had a solid, stable feel about it.
As a CFII and Turbo Arrow III owner, this is the best informational video I’ve seen discussing the full operation of the Arrow gear system. Great job and well done. J2
Thanks, Jamie. Like all things, I wish I could have done it a little better. We kind of did it "impromptu", but I didn't remember seeing a good demonstration of the gear on the Arrow before so I thought I'd give it a shot! Two of my best friends have Arrows. Great way to go pretty fast without breaking the bank. The turbo must be amazing up at altitude.
I'm a big fan. That guy is crazy talented. I stumbled on his VetRanch channel a few years ago. I thought "that looks like the crazy guy who blows things up!" Pretty surprised to find out that it was him.
He blows things up, builds things , fixes animals, runs a successful business and still has time to be a family man. I consider both of you to be roll models and refer to both of you in my classroom instruction of teenagers. Your kids are great roll models as well. My dad taught me to fly when I was very young and piloting provided many great bonding moments. He passed a few years ago but every time I’m in the cockpit, he’s with me.
Commie-news network! why any one wastes time they can never get back watching that channel is something I'm at a loss to understand. This on the other hand was enjoyable and informational to watch. Thumbs up.
Thanks for sharing this great video Quinnjim!!! A lot of people, like myself, enjoy these types of videos as they are educational and fun to watch. Great to learn different features of different airplanes. Thanks again. Eloy
Love it! Thanks for all the tips! I still like it when you fly with the kids! I took a 2 week break from Flying. I’m ready to fly in this cooler weather!
Remind the owner that those shoulder harnesses save lives. Nice Arrow, too! Would love a new touch screen Garmin, I can’t complain about flying behind a gns530w in our Archer.
This was an excellent video. Probably one of the best you've done (and it didn't even feature any of your kids! Imagine that. :-). I love this style of cross-country flying video. The more of these you can do, the more I'll selfishly consume them. (And way to keep representing Matt over at Demo Ranch! Good on ya.) Thank you for the explanation of the auto-gear system. That was something I had no idea was on any smaller aircraft. Cool stuff.
Thanks very much! I've seen how people like going along for a trip (on some other channels). It's kind of fun to check out new airplanes and see how it all works. I wasn't even thinking about my "demolitia" shirt, it just kind of happened. That guy is my favorite TH-camr (and the only TH-cam merch I own). Thanks for the support!
Great video, John! I'm still learning all the different aircraft that are out there. I don't think I'll ever remember all of them, but that was a super interesting gear system! First I've heard of, or have seen that. Glad they put that pin in the gear handle there - what a bad day abruptly ending a flight because you couldn't climb due to an automatic system. Thankfully engineers learn from their mistakes, and move forward. Nice easy fix on the autopilot too - added bonus! Beautiful aircraft there - looks brand new! Congrats, Dan! 👍 Thanks for sharing the trip, John. 😎
The gear system started out as a good idea. Who wouldn't want a little help putting the gear down if you forgot it?? It did actually cause a few crashes, so I think most Arrow owners have had it disabled. It's kind of like the MCAS system on the 737 MAX. The engineers thought that they would help the pilots get the nose down if they pitched up too steeply. They never thought about the angle of attack indicator malfunctioning and pushing the nose down when it wasn't needed. For some reason, they didn't put any redundancy into that system either. They have it fixed now, but the damage has been done.
@@quinnjim - Yeah, definitely alot of similarities there. Sounds great on paper, but there's always unintended consequences. Hindsight is always 20/20 unfortunately. That whole thing was a mess. I couldn't believe they didn't even mention that system at all during type training as I've heard. Big mistake there, plus they gave it far too much authority. Good thing we've got the best trained pilots in the world here, or we'd probably have a few smoking holes ourselves. I've been tracking the MAX on FlightAware. They've been doing test flights - tail # N7201S. Lately there's been quite a few. I figure it won't be long before they're back flying again. Will be the safest aircraft built today, no doubt!
I was waiting to see you pull the circuit breaker for the gear. Haha. I love the arrow! I fly a T tail arrow on long flights and it’s a real nice cruiser.
Yeah, we missed an important step! Stick to the checklist. Each time I released pressure on the emergency "down" lever, I'm sure the gear started coming up again. I kind of did this "off the cuff" and could have done a much better job if I had planned for it. I knew I'd make some Arrow guys cringe! I think people get a basic understanding of how it works, but I want to redo that part for sure.
@@quinnjim I enjoyed the video. Thank you for sharing it. And I look at it as us all being students of aviation. My instructor would sometimes reach down and pull the breaker when I wasn’t looking and when it was time to put the gear down, nothing happened. He also dimmed the green lights to make sure I was checking for “3 green”. Clever! And by the way, I absolutely love the part that you shared about learning the garmin and app. Well done! Keep them coming!
@@quinnjim yah true 150 is nice but you must have another you can fly or something look forward to your vids anyway brings back good memories when I used to fly with Family long ago :)
My club has the Hershey bar arrow and my dad has the tapered wing with the T tail. Much prefer the tapered wing. Both have had the auto gear disconnected
Clean looking craft!! Is water in fuel a common event? You are a great comfort to your buddy!! I'm sure he appreciated your travel companionship and (free) check ride!!
Water in the gas is pretty rare. Usually you get it when the airplane sits outside during heavy rain. The gas caps are sealed, but the seals go bad after a few decades and they let some water in. You can also get some condensation in the tanks that will produce water in the fuel sample. I think Dan appreciated the check out, but it's a lot less stressful flying without somebody judging your every move. He'll get REALLY comfortable after 20 hours in the airplane solo.
on video my oil door 'appears' to shake like that as well. I don't think it's really shaking like that, maybe a little bit (not even noticeable to the eye) so I wonder if it's just a frame rate thing.....
This particular one is pretty loose (even on the ground). I landed my 1973 Cherokee a few years ago and the oil door was GONE! I had to call Wentworth Aviation in Minnesota to get a new one.
I'm trying to film something today. I like to try and have the video be something more that just flying around. Today I'm doing something SPECIAL! Hopefully it works out.
@@quinnjim Cool Cool no pressure lol maybe a short VFR flight from planning to flying and We You Tubers ( is that a word ?? ) always look forward to Your Videos very down to Earth :)
@@mikecoffee100 Thanks, Mike! I had planned on soloing my buddy in his Cirrus today, but it went down for maintenance. Hopefully I'll get that video in the next week!
MY instructor crashed on a charter flight in 1970 in Conn. They said it was water in the fuel. I stopped taking lessons. Thinking it was a sign from god. Flying is all i ever really wanted to do,but was afraid if anything happened to me my wife and kid would pay the price.Sorry im long winded. Anyway at 66 years old thinking of going for my private. Wanted to tell you your vidios and your daughters gave me the confidence to think about starting again ,so thank you! So what do you do when you find water in the fuel on your pre flight? I know, that was a long way to go to ask a question. lol
Water in the fuel is pretty uncommon. It's easy to find, some guys just get lazy and don't check. You simply sump the tanks before each flight. If there is any water in the tank, it will come out. If you find some contaminated fuel, you just keep taking samples until they come out clean. I've been flying for over 20,000 hours and I've never had an issue. I've found water a few times, but I just clear it all out before I go fly. You should definitely go take some lessons. Don't enter retirement with any regrets!!
@@quinnjim ...so 190k dead is a chicken little moment?...I agree we'll get back to normal but this stuff is nasty..my sister in law is a MD..and my brother passed from it 3 months ago
When you plaster cameras in front of the windscreen (or any airplane window) you've endangered yourself and the flying public, because you've blotted out a portion of the sky where a plane could be flying. At two miles a plane is just a speck hiding behind the GoPro. The FAA should outlaw this practice. VFR means see and avoid. You can't avoid what you can't see. I didn't see a run-up and mag check.
Try flying a Pitts. You don't get to see much of anything. I think it would give you a heart attack. We always do our preflight run-up. I cut it out at 5:54.. Pretty boring, so we don't always show it.
Love the Arrow! Learned to fly in a 140. My grandfather was a production test pilot for Piper in Pennsylvania. Thumbs up for the Demolitia!!
This bought back many memories of my hours in a PA-28R-200 Arrow straight wing many years ago - a very nice aircraft to fly - had a solid, stable feel about it.
Appreciate the vey thorough demonstration of the gear,I’m not a pilot plan on taking my discovery flight in a few weeks.
As a CFII and Turbo Arrow III owner, this is the best informational video I’ve seen discussing the full operation of the Arrow gear system. Great job and well done. J2
Thanks, Jamie. Like all things, I wish I could have done it a little better. We kind of did it "impromptu", but I didn't remember seeing a good demonstration of the gear on the Arrow before so I thought I'd give it a shot! Two of my best friends have Arrows. Great way to go pretty fast without breaking the bank. The turbo must be amazing up at altitude.
Also a Turbo Arrow III owner :-)
Matt would be proud of you! Wearing a Demolitia shirt. 👍🏻
I'm a big fan. That guy is crazy talented. I stumbled on his VetRanch channel a few years ago. I thought "that looks like the crazy guy who blows things up!" Pretty surprised to find out that it was him.
He blows things up, builds things , fixes animals, runs a successful business and still has time to be a family man. I consider both of you to be roll models and refer to both of you in my classroom instruction of teenagers. Your kids are great roll models as well. My dad taught me to fly when I was very young and piloting provided many great bonding moments. He passed a few years ago but every time I’m in the cockpit, he’s with me.
@@winzie5764 What a kind comment. Thank you so much for contributing in such a nice way.
Aurora is home to 310 Pilot! Love their channel as well!
You got it!
Commie-news network! why any one wastes time they can never get back watching that channel is something I'm at a loss to understand. This on the other hand was enjoyable and informational to watch. Thumbs up.
Thanks for sharing this great video Quinnjim!!! A lot of people, like myself, enjoy these types of videos as they are educational and fun to watch. Great to learn different features of different airplanes. Thanks again. Eloy
Thanks very much!
Thank you very much for the clip.
My CPL flight test is coming very soon, this one is very good clip to revise everything.
Nice airplane.. I like the longer videos...... Cool video.. Awesome views Love the clouds floating by
Love it! Thanks for all the tips! I still like it when you fly with the kids! I took a 2 week break from Flying. I’m ready to fly in this cooler weather!
Luv the old Guages even that old Garmin system Piper Arrow Rocks
Nice video guys! Loved it! Currently have a 1978 Turbo Arrow III and love it! #TeamLowWing
The turbo is a nice machine. Much faster up high.
Thanks for sharing the flight, nice to see people out n about, we've still 2 weeks remaining of Covid lockdown - safe travels
Stay safe, Gary. I hope we get past this lockdown stuff soon.
Well Done Dan...and thanks for this ride guys!
He was going to buy a Conquest, but he'd never build any time since he would get everywhere so FAST! :)
Great video. That auto gear system is pretty cool. Thanks
Ah the bean field, I love it! Lol
Remind the owner that those shoulder harnesses save lives. Nice Arrow, too! Would love a new touch screen Garmin, I can’t complain about flying behind a gns530w in our Archer.
This was an excellent video. Probably one of the best you've done (and it didn't even feature any of your kids! Imagine that. :-). I love this style of cross-country flying video. The more of these you can do, the more I'll selfishly consume them. (And way to keep representing Matt over at Demo Ranch! Good on ya.)
Thank you for the explanation of the auto-gear system. That was something I had no idea was on any smaller aircraft. Cool stuff.
Thanks very much! I've seen how people like going along for a trip (on some other channels). It's kind of fun to check out new airplanes and see how it all works. I wasn't even thinking about my "demolitia" shirt, it just kind of happened. That guy is my favorite TH-camr (and the only TH-cam merch I own). Thanks for the support!
Great video, John! I'm still learning all the different aircraft that are out there. I don't think I'll ever remember all of them, but that was a super interesting gear system! First I've heard of, or have seen that. Glad they put that pin in the gear handle there - what a bad day abruptly ending a flight because you couldn't climb due to an automatic system. Thankfully engineers learn from their mistakes, and move forward. Nice easy fix on the autopilot too - added bonus!
Beautiful aircraft there - looks brand new! Congrats, Dan! 👍 Thanks for sharing the trip, John. 😎
The gear system started out as a good idea. Who wouldn't want a little help putting the gear down if you forgot it?? It did actually cause a few crashes, so I think most Arrow owners have had it disabled. It's kind of like the MCAS system on the 737 MAX. The engineers thought that they would help the pilots get the nose down if they pitched up too steeply. They never thought about the angle of attack indicator malfunctioning and pushing the nose down when it wasn't needed. For some reason, they didn't put any redundancy into that system either. They have it fixed now, but the damage has been done.
@@quinnjim - Yeah, definitely alot of similarities there. Sounds great on paper, but there's always unintended consequences. Hindsight is always 20/20 unfortunately. That whole thing was a mess. I couldn't believe they didn't even mention that system at all during type training as I've heard. Big mistake there, plus they gave it far too much authority. Good thing we've got the best trained pilots in the world here, or we'd probably have a few smoking holes ourselves.
I've been tracking the MAX on FlightAware. They've been doing test flights - tail # N7201S. Lately there's been quite a few. I figure it won't be long before they're back flying again. Will be the safest aircraft built today, no doubt!
Nicely done video.
Hi Dan, Nice airplane.... Blue skies
I was waiting to see you pull the circuit breaker for the gear. Haha. I love the arrow! I fly a T tail arrow on long flights and it’s a real nice cruiser.
Yeah, we missed an important step! Stick to the checklist. Each time I released pressure on the emergency "down" lever, I'm sure the gear started coming up again. I kind of did this "off the cuff" and could have done a much better job if I had planned for it. I knew I'd make some Arrow guys cringe! I think people get a basic understanding of how it works, but I want to redo that part for sure.
@@quinnjim I enjoyed the video. Thank you for sharing it. And I look at it as us all being students of aviation. My instructor would sometimes reach down and pull the breaker when I wasn’t looking and when it was time to put the gear down, nothing happened. He also dimmed the green lights to make sure I was checking for “3 green”. Clever! And by the way, I absolutely love the part that you shared about learning the garmin and app. Well done! Keep them coming!
Great to see Videos From Quinnjim
again :)
Thanks Mike! I try to make my videos different. There's only so many times people want to see me land the 150! :)
@@quinnjim yah true 150 is nice but you must have another you can fly or something look forward to your vids anyway brings back good memories when I used to fly with Family long ago :)
Awesome video Love it Nice plane
My club has the Hershey bar arrow and my dad has the tapered wing with the T tail. Much prefer the tapered wing. Both have had the auto gear disconnected
Love that Boeing hat Quinnjim
Thank you for the outstanding video, I want to be a Nurse Military Pilot.
Good luck! Sounds like a cool job.
Yes More Cross Country flight videos for us Quinnjim fans :)
Clean looking craft!! Is water in fuel a common event? You are a great comfort to your buddy!! I'm sure he appreciated your travel companionship and (free) check ride!!
Water in the gas is pretty rare. Usually you get it when the airplane sits outside during heavy rain. The gas caps are sealed, but the seals go bad after a few decades and they let some water in. You can also get some condensation in the tanks that will produce water in the fuel sample. I think Dan appreciated the check out, but it's a lot less stressful flying without somebody judging your every move. He'll get REALLY comfortable after 20 hours in the airplane solo.
Your a Very Pro Pilot Hope You get to teach more Students .
Excellent!
on video my oil door 'appears' to shake like that as well. I don't think it's really shaking like that, maybe a little bit (not even noticeable to the eye) so I wonder if it's just a frame rate thing.....
This particular one is pretty loose (even on the ground). I landed my 1973 Cherokee a few years ago and the oil door was GONE! I had to call Wentworth Aviation in Minnesota to get a new one.
Hey Jim... that Aurora TH-camr would be "310 Pilot" N771BC~Kevin and Jamie ';-)
I’d be climbing at 25, 25, 9. Looks like you are climbing in PA28 mode, not Arrow-R mode?
Is the guy on the right the one from Diamond Resorts? 😅
310 Pilot did a video at Rochelle.
Nice
310 pilot, Kevin and Jamie
Absolutely right!
I knew that too.
that's the plane i want
Waiting for new Vids about flying before winter comes
I'm trying to film something today. I like to try and have the video be something more that just flying around. Today I'm doing something SPECIAL! Hopefully it works out.
@@quinnjim Cool Cool no pressure lol maybe a short VFR flight from planning to flying and We You Tubers ( is that a word ?? ) always look forward to Your Videos very down to Earth :)
@@mikecoffee100 Thanks, Mike! I had planned on soloing my buddy in his Cirrus today, but it went down for maintenance. Hopefully I'll get that video in the next week!
Hey Jim, what watch are you wearing?
Seiko Flightmaster. It's got a cool aviation vibe and it's not too expensive.
quinnjim thanks! I appreciate that, I’ll check it out!
MY instructor crashed on a charter flight in 1970 in Conn. They said it was water in the fuel. I stopped taking lessons. Thinking it was a sign from god. Flying is all i ever really wanted to do,but was afraid if anything happened to me my wife and kid would pay the price.Sorry im long winded. Anyway at 66 years old thinking of going for my private. Wanted to tell you your vidios and your daughters gave me the confidence to think about starting again ,so thank you! So what do you do when you find water in the fuel on your pre flight? I know, that was a long way to go to ask a question. lol
Water in the fuel is pretty uncommon. It's easy to find, some guys just get lazy and don't check. You simply sump the tanks before each flight. If there is any water in the tank, it will come out. If you find some contaminated fuel, you just keep taking samples until they come out clean. I've been flying for over 20,000 hours and I've never had an issue. I've found water a few times, but I just clear it all out before I go fly. You should definitely go take some lessons. Don't enter retirement with any regrets!!
@@quinnjim Thanks for your time. Please keep the videos coming. I will go for the chicken at wedding! Lol
No seatbelt for Dan?????
He wore his seatbelt. He forgot his shoulder strap. That's the difference between an open casket and a closed casket service.
actually watched the whole video
watched the whole thing that's how We learn by watching fun and educational videos about avation
19:12 310 Pilot
You got it! Great channel. Awesome plane. I should have been an air traffic controller to afford the REALLY cool toys! :)
Piper arrow 3 tapered wing..
Good eye.
You mentioned Doom and gloom CNN? 😄 very enjoyable video.
The media needs to keep us scared or we'll stop tuning it! :)
@@quinnjim ...so 190k dead is a chicken little moment?...I agree we'll get back to normal but this stuff is nasty..my sister in law is a MD..and my brother passed from it 3 months ago
310 pilot, great channel. There should be an override on auto gear extension. Pain to hold when single pilot, job for co-pilot.
Should have kept watching...68 model I flew didn't have the pin lock.
@@jspalla I do the same thing all the time. I comment while watching! 😄
Kevin & Jamie 310 Pilot
Exactly right.
uh oh you left the red light on over head ah well
The whole time...
310
310 pilot
When you plaster cameras in front of the windscreen (or any airplane window) you've endangered yourself and the flying public, because you've blotted out a portion of the sky where a plane could be flying. At two miles a plane is just a speck hiding behind the GoPro. The FAA should outlaw this practice. VFR means see and avoid. You can't avoid what you can't see. I didn't see a run-up and mag check.
Try flying a Pitts. You don't get to see much of anything. I think it would give you a heart attack. We always do our preflight run-up. I cut it out at 5:54.. Pretty boring, so we don't always show it.
310 pilot