18650 batteries have been a standard size for lithium ion rechargeables for decades. The best brands are Panasonic, Sanyo, Samsung, and LG. I usually use Samsung or LG. It's just that until the past 8 years or so, I only saw them welded inside OEM battery packs. We used to take apart the battery packs of obsolete or broken laptops to get batteries for other projects. It was great when they became popular for flashlights, because we had piles of them ready to go.
was about to comment that 18650 is a standard that was around for a long time when I noticed your post I'd like to add that there are many good "unknown" brands out there (I like Molicel) but you do have to do your homework and read tests and reviews for each model before purchasing. But most importantly ONLY purchase from reputable stores. There are tons and tons of knockoffs (yes, even of those unknown brands, so avoid aliexpress and ebay) and the mAh may be far from advertised. Also, keep in mind that there are protected and unprotected 18650, with a button or flat top; so length may vary. And finally, respect the battery... these are not some silly AAA and can cause serious harm when pierced or mishandled.
They were also heavily used in the vaping scene. Most devices would run one or more and if you have a vape store nearby, you can probably pick some decent ones from there if you don't want to buy online for whatever reason.
@@loopspin225Thanks and their use in vaping products was not something I was familiar with, nor the whole vaping scene. Give me a good cigar instead! 😂
As soon as I knew about this device I ordered one for testing and development. For me it is the applications in my work that make it very interesting. This is a much cheaper, robust and less hassle option than laptops that we've been using so far for configuring and field programming machines that we manufacture. I showed this to the guys at work and they were immediately hooked on the idea of simple, small and cost efficient field terminals. I will write custom versions of software tools we have for running them on the uConsole display and we have a nice new tool which is much easier to maintain and carry than how laptops are. Extending the battery life in field conditions is also simple with a power bank, no need for a special one that can charge a laptop. If we need to update something, even the whole OS and set of tools can be updated to a ready-made card image and then just swap the card to the terminal in a few seconds to perform the actual update. The service guys can just pop in, change card and away they go. I'm also loving the possibility for designing a custom board to the expansion port and have that do stuff that eliminates the need for adapters or external devices that we have to use with laptops currently.
Hey @miscme7116 does this device allows you to use it as an KVM* (kind of) switch? * I'm looking for something that's capable of serving as both: portable display and an input device (KB, mice)
@@retroCombs 18650 is pretty much common for Vape kits (e-cigs) Also some rechageable gadgets like BT speakers have it internally. It even runs Tesla cars. I assume you already have some (probably non-replacable) 18650s in your house unknowingly.
I'm not sure what I would need this for, but I want one anyway. That said (and as another comment pointed out) they would make a great field terminal for configuring or servicing industrial process control or embedded systems. I work a lot in the OT world and these devices would rule in that scenario, especially with the LTE module so you could be completely untethered. It's the best realisation of the cyberdeck that I've seen.
I agree but some disagree with the cyber deck notion. I still enjoy using this little device. I'm anxious to see a Raspberry Pi CM5 upgrade. It will be amazing with this processor and additional memory.
Just stumbled upon this video because I'm going through reviews of this wonderful little machine. I really want one. It would go great with my Alienware 18 and Macbook Air for traveling. Also, I wouldn't say the power issue is a negative really. The 18650 cells are easily available at most vape and smoke shops. I use two of them in my vape mod. Great review, subbed and hello fellow C64 user!
18650 cells aren't common in consumer electronics, but they have been the most common, de facto standard, LiIon form factor for years. i would love to see an alternative option, using a pouch cell instead, that makes use of all the available space. that could easily double or even triple the battery life.
I was think about designing an alternative battery board using many vertical 18350 cells instead of two horizontal 18650s. Battery life should still improve greatly but without sacrificing the ability to hot swap cells without tubring off the uconsole.
@@retroCombs 18650s are actually far safer to use than a pouch battery, and are becoming more and more standard in the electronics industry. The trick with pouches is they are an unprotected cell that can easily get damaged, whereas an 18650 at least has a metal can around the lipoly cells to protect the cathodes and gel. I've had several other you-put-it-together products from small manufacturers that did not take steps to protect the pouch batteries, and the result was... explosive in at least one of them.
Just ordered one. For most things, there are better options - Gaming: SteamDeck, Content Consumption: pretty much any tablet, Dev terminal: any old laptop with a good keyboard and Linux/ChromeOS. For me, I'm going to try it as a handheld music production box. It's cheaper than most of the bespoke units from Roland, Korg, etc. Now I only need to wait FOREVER for it to ship.
@@retroCombs Lots of music creation software for Linux and much of it runs on ARM. The key will be learning how best to utilize the smaller display and focusing on a keyboard based workflow.
@@DouglasRosser You might want to pair it with another monitor. Even something like this small, Wimaxi monitor (I have two in my studio) could make things easier on-the-go. Here's the link (#ad) - amzn.to/3LzSMjQ
"Better" is subjective. The terms "SteamDeck" and "pretty much any tablet" directly translate to large, data-hungry corporations. ARM chips are very likely backdoored by the government, but at least corporations can't spy on you.
The logic runs on 3.3v. Common batteries are 1.5v when fresh, then start draining. So even with 4 batteries in series-parallel, you would only get 3.0v. I like those weird batteries. 3.7v give you some headroom before the 3.3v regulator.
I use a lot of 18650 batteries. Find them mostly in old laptop battery packs which failed. They are high amps. I can literally "repair" them from ending up near 0 voltage. A dead one won't. Find them safe so far in many setups.
But you can't purchase them a WalMart or Target, or really any local department store. That's what I meant by non-standard. I think this one items has more comments than any other. Glad it sparked some conversation.
Thanks for the video... Very well explained and I am looking forward to more videos on the uConsole 👍 As a bonus (for me) I subscribed to your channel 😃 BR, Per (Denmark)
Great review. I just ordered a Wi-Fi only model as I probably won't use this to work outside often. Hard to choose between silver and black, but I selected black.
Thanks! Glad you like the video. Tried to keep it short and pithy as well as informative. I think black was the way to go and agree. Most folks won't need the 4G Wi-Fi. They were kind enought to include it but I would have chosen the Wi-Fi model and save a few bucks. Get ready for a whole mess of fun and get those batteries ordered (#ad) amzn.to/48qWg1X
Yeah I don't understand why anyone would need the 4G version? I can just tether my phone through wifi and use 4G that way. I also have trouble deciding which color....
Based on your video and Eta primes, I had to order one... Portable pi with a full physical thumb keyboard that's backlit. Also ordered it with the cellular module. Just in case. Its like the pocket chip fused with the retroflag game boy style case. Probably better. And I've been kind of a long time vaper unfortunately so I've got a few 18650s sitting around. They were very common in devices a few years ago.
Yep 18650 are probably the most common format for lithium batteries. They're easy to find, available in many variants (less current output usually translates to higher capacity), cheap, and swappable. Anyone who is into vaping would probably have at least 4 of them laying around, and maybe a dedicated charger. I'm sure that thinner formats are available, but again, using 18650 is the best option to lower the final price, as many users probably already have them
"those strange 18650" ??? 18650 are quite common, especially when u wanna have swap-able liion batteries (what is great instead of having some weird pouch cells that may be clued in)
Per my other comments regarding the battery, until I can walk into a Target or Walmart and find these on the shelves in brands by Duracell or Energizer, these will continue to be a mystery to the majority of the people. They know AAA, AA, C, & D. If I asked a family member to grab an 18650 while they are out shopping, I don't think a single one would know what I was talking about or even find one. Hopefully that helps explain why I think these are "strange." Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@retroCombs Fair, but there is also a really good technical reason for it. If you use AAA, AA or so you use "Alkaline" chemistry. They work pretty well if you don't pull too much current. The more current you draw from an alkaline battery the worse its capacity gets (a LOT worse actually). That's why you wanna use LiPo. And the most common Li-Ion format with widely available charger is 18650. That's why it is often used if you need a lot of power. Alkaline is only used for low power applications.
And there are known major manufacturers of 18650’s. Sony, LG, Sanyo to just name a few. They are the most common lithium ion battery. They are not Lipo which is lithium polymer. Those are typically the non removable pouch style or the cells that are in most cell phones. And like the person said before alkaline don’t even come close to comparing to any lithium
Maybe they are no longer conmon in consumer electronics but until a couple of years ago, when laptops with removable batteries were a thing, most used packs of 18650 cells.
@@retroCombsUsually building battery packs for rechargeable devices, from powerbanks to electric powertools. They aren't actual batteries but single lithium cells and only recently they have become more popular to use on their own instead of bundled up in packs of many. I think the best brands for them are probably samsung or sony but most chinese ones are good too. They are popular among hobbysts because are more robust and can take a lot more mishandling than flat pouch lithium cells even without an enclosure around them.
Love the SX-64 in the background. That was the first computer I owned. I hacked the hell out of that sucker, new font chip, hacked bios, extra I/O. I have stories. I suspect that I was the only inmate in federal prison with my own SX-64 in my room. Like I said, I have stories. It's been over 90 days since my uConsole order and I'm wondering where it's at. Anyway, I sub'd you just because of the SX-64.
The SX-64 shows up regularly on the channel and especially during my livestreams with it making an appearance during my Christmas Eve stream this year. It's a recent acquisition because I could never afford one when I was younger. Whoa, didn't know they let computers in the federal prison system. I'm sure you do have stories and guess you had some time to really learn about it. Thanks for subbing and be on the lookout. I do have some SX-64 content planned. I suspect you know more about the device than I do!
You know what this needs to be a true cyberpunk device..? Goggles. If I had this, I would use it with some of those pass-through glasses that put a virtual screen up, and just use the box as a way to type and navigate. EDIT: I found the perfect "goggles" for this, and it's the Xreal glasses with the Air accessory.
I still like the DevTerm more as it’s screen is bigger and I am not much into those thumb keyboards. I had a Sharp Zaurus in the early 2000s and thought the keyboard was painful. I just discovered these devices and I might get a DevTerm with a Pi CM4 next year as a computer for camping. This will allow me to do planning of bike trips with Komoot, and play an 8 or 16 bit game or two in the evening before sleeping, and it’s not as expensive as an iPad or a full fledged notebook, should it get stolen or break.
@@retroCombs I already watched both of them. I might make myself a Christmas present out of it. I'll try to prepare an SD card with some systems on my Pi400 to check if everything would work as expected.
@@20windfisch11 Ah, someone else who buys a Christmas present for themselves! And this will make a great one. I love a present that will keep me busy during the day and either of these are perfect!
Going to buy one of these with raspberry 4 compute module, and hope to upgrade to raspberry pi 5 compute module when its released hopefully later this year.
It's a nice little unit, and would be so nice IF only Clockwork would actually live up to their delivery dates. But as it is, they've left some people waiting a year for delivery, all the while promising that it would be "in the next batch".
@@retroCombs I think the keyboard and form factor of the Astro slide phone would work great, except with a folding design. If they made this a folding design with a large Blackberry keyboard that would be slick too, or a 1080p screen.lol
I did not know that BBS were still around. As. Kid on my C64 being able to dial up to a trivia BBS was awesome but the waiting 1 to 2 weeks for a reply was not. I guess they could be better today with easy online access.
Love this!! I really wished someone one would make a similar form factor with Windows installed. I have guitar equipment that requires Windows based software and my fear is that the gear will outlive the compatibility of future versions of Windows. Plus, having something this compact would be perfect to bring out on the road.
I believe there's an Arm version of Windows that runs on the Raspberry Pi, but don't quote me. Might be a good Google research project or someone here might know.
That's a cool idea! Looks like it might run the Orca, Dolphin Phi, or Phi models but what I haven't been able to determine if Raspian OS is a flavor of Linux supported. Looks like we could build the package and might even be possible that the Linux install script would work.
Those look very cool. Totally very retro devices, but still something for modern in them. I would like to see these as properties in some movies, be it for a some kids playing something or some hacker going to save the day pulling this out from bag (like Die Hard 4). This kind computers are as well something that, again, would be like One Laptop Per Child (that was ruined by the Netbooks for 1st world market).
@@retroCombs The team should send couple to some known action/sci-fi movie props masters, it could be worth it as they will speak out about it then more often. Considering how many movies even use a common game peripherals like joysticks to be used in flight scenes, the movies are still stuck mostly to desktop/laptop use.
18650 battery is standard and far better than those custom packs that may not easy to find replacement, and it is better to have a removable battery cover for quick replacement. I just hope this thing is power efficient, so that I can keep it on standby to check email regularly like my tablet, of course the 4G module must be working first.
18650 cells are common on laptop batteries (if you want to get them recycled) usually a faulty laptop battery have 6x18650 cells inside and maybe only 1 or 2 of them are dead but the rest are good to use, or you can buy on the internet, I suggest samsung 18650 cells, an usb-c cable and a medium size powerbank can make the 4 to 5 hr of battery to maybe 8 to 12 hr
@@retroCombs its not a standard size like alkaline a,c,d but its the standard size when using lithium. Any USB chargers that don't use pillow lithium cells most certainly use 18650s. Anker battery packs use them, most Tesla cars, the Tesla wall, any vape device that isn't instant e-waste. The form factor and weight make them very attractive. I use them for my LORA network, depending on usage they can last a couple months! You can get cheap chargers from them on that online store, I forget the name 🙊. But, I recommend not buying off brand cells. Its not like putting a rayovac aa in something and just have to clean up corrosion. They can be VERY destructive. As in. Thermal ignition. I got a few that where no name 6 letter China things, bad idea. After the second one went thermal I recycled them and exclusivity use Samsung. I don't like the company for many reasons but unmanaged batteries, they know what they are doing.
This is so cute and convenient cyberdeck! The price is very good too! Is it possible to charge these batteries from the USB-C and if so, how much time does it take?
I'm sure the supply chain issues are the cause. They are getting better though. Hopefully yours will arrive sooner. Looks like yet are Pre-Order only right now.
@@retroCombs unfortunately I do not own any so do not have any way to test it. I might consider buying a separate compute module and testing with it before getting the uConsole.
@kc3vv For the CM4, you will need a board to place it in. Id recommend you get a standard Pi 4 #ad (amzn.to/49OSMqF) or even better the 400 (amzn.to/3QWE2gJ). If you find its a good experience, then thr uConsole might be a good choice.
don't understand why everyone says 18650 batteries are non-standard all my modern flashlights use them battery packs were built using 18650's when my old laptops die I scavenge the battery pack for 18650's but I guess modern stuff uses those flat-packs which I consider strange no more scavenging with the new stuff yeah, 18650's are hard to find... especially without an included charger which I have plenty of too bad the uConsole doesn't use 21700 batteries which seem to be replacing 18650 the uConsole looks INTERESTING! especially since my smart phone BLEW up the flat battery pack swelled up and POP! the uConsole would go well with my flip phone, which has a replaceable batt-pack FYI: years ago in a galaxy far, far away... I dis some field service using a TRS-80-100 for interfacing with the data logging system
Can you get LTE-M and NB-IoT modules instead of 4G? Narrowband would be perfect for this device. Broadband is overkill I think, unless you ant to use it to transfer data to another device from the internet. Narrowband data plans cost less.
“Sent over….with no strings attached” I emailed them a few weeks ago and they claimed the batches were not delayed because of units sent out to TH-camrs. Thanks for the ammo, I was less than 100 spots away from my friend and they pushed my delivery date by 3 months now from his. What the heck???
I was informed back in July that one was coming my way. I can't speak to lead or shipment delays. Here's hoping that can shorten those delays. Keep me in the loop on arrival.
@@retroCombs thanks for the reply, yeah nothing on you it’s just frustrating to see them prioritize certain outlets on a preorder item that clearly sold out so the need for marketing is pretty minimal right now. Maybe review units that get shipped around but I’ve seen a ton of giveaways for other channels and such
@decimat777 Oh, I've not seen the giveaways. I get it. I waited over a year and a half for a MEGA65 and over 2.5 years for a Spectrum Next issue 2. Maybe the best things do come to those who wait (through a COVID pandemic logistics shortage). 😂
It was and this link might help: forum.clockworkpi.com/t/virtualt-tandy-trs-80-model-100-emulator-for-devterm-a06-a04/8296 You can also check out my DevTerm video for more info: th-cam.com/video/I7StErCRl1Q/w-d-xo.html Good eye!
My problem with this thing is exact same as with Flipper Zero - great thing, I so glad thing like this made by someone for sail, but I still have no idea what to do with it. Code? keyboard doesnt look like for a lot of typing, play? - tons of retro handhelds would do better. Even for admin job, screen would not fit grafana. Guess this is perfect thing for my wishlist.
Yeah, it's a toy for killing time for most folks and a want, not a need. But as I show in my video, if you dock the thing, I'd rather have this than a Raspberry Pi 400. Grab and go with a small monitor and screen.
Actually it’s great for retro computing game (not retro console gaming). For instance c64, amiga, dos they all require a keyboard to have a full gaming experience. For retro console (nes, snes, psx, gamecube and so on), handheld retro console would be better
It would but not out of the box. The kernel for the uConsole has been modified to match the uConsole hardware. I'm pretty sure the Combian developer would not build this into his distribution. It would be very cool though if some enterprising Linux expert would take it on as a project.
I ordered this in December of 2022. The company always responded when I asked what was going on with shipping my unit, there was always some kind of excuse, but after eight months I cancelled my order and to their credit they did refund my money. This is not “buyer beware,” it’s more like “don’t bother.” You can order this from clockwork but it’s not ever coming. Don’t even bother.
Wow, that's almost a year. It is a case that if you can wait and don't really "NEED" this type of device, keeping your order in the queue will get you one at the soonest possible availabililty. I'm curious, what excuses did they provide? Logistics and supply? Thanks for commenting!
Interesting device, but not better to take Lenovo go? Looks like a faster and more comfortable solution. The keyboard steals reading space. And if you use a normal external one it will be more convenient. And pressing the screen is quieter and more convenient... And the SSD can be replaced
Hi! I am new to your channel!! Out of curiosity, I noticed the trackball looks if not exactly like the blackberry had. would I be able to attach aftermarket trackball like blackberry had? different colored ones etc?
Almost identical to the blackberry trackball but as you say a bit looser. It would seem that with some modifications you could swap these out. It would be a fun and interesting project.
Such a cool little device. I would love to see more about this. Quick question, should this device be able to expand the Micro SD to a 512GB for max storage? I'm thinking this would be cool to have an offline information library using kiwix but this uses quite a bit of storage so, a 512GB would be better for what I want to do. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this...
Found the following on the Clockwork website: "**The tested maximum capacity is 256GB." Now, that's tested. It would be an interesting test. Unfortunately the largest I have is a 256.
Great thanks for the info. I ordered one for myself 6 days ago and I'm so excited to try it out for myself. I've been looking for a compact computer with basic functionality, but I don't like chromebooks so this seems like a great alternative to experiment with since I'm already semi-competent with Ras Pi and Linux computers lol @@retroCombs
Hey great video, you mention at the start that they sent it to you with no strings attached, are you a batch one buyer or did they send it to you first free for PR?
I told them I was going to purchase one and asked if they had one to either loan or have. They were kind enough to send one out when the first batch became available. Does that help?
@@retroCombs thank you. That’s a good fallback. However, my goal is to get away from Google/Apple so I am constantly looking at DYI solutions - but voice and text transport is not an easy feat I understand (look at the Pinephone, years in development and they still struggle to get it)
I like the track ball and qwerty keyboard, would there be a way to store photos onto a thumb drive via USB if so I'd gladly throw it my cheap Walmart tablet.
There is a version of Windows for ARM for the Raspberry Pi but no one recommends it. The CM4 isn't fast enough. That could change when a CM5 is released.
just so everyone knows, I ordered one and they said allow 90 days for shipping... 5 months later I'm canceling my order because they said it would be another 5 months. Shipping is almost a year out on these, but they don't say anything to the customer. You just wait and wait and nothing ever happens.
Not a criticism of this package, im really thinking about ordering one, i just feel that 4gb of memory on the cm4 is just too small! I hope the future pi modules come with 16!!!
@@retroCombs It does, but, I have this fantasy that I could run modded Minecraft on it one day. In this form factor! I'd also live to get a cluster going using cm what ever version going however due to the memory limitations it wouldn't be practical. Covid really set them back on development and manufacturing. I hope we can see something new soon! Their regular pi platform has a new release, but I'd like to just plug 20 CMs into a board and go. I have to point out, when we where kids, this was unimaginable. We've gone so far. I can hold something in my hand and not be completely broke when it dies that would have been world changing in the 80s. Even 90s, a cm4 would ruin every encryption.
There's technically no reason you can't but I've not seen them offered in the Clockwork store. Maybe once stock is full, they will put these modules in their store. It's also possible someone else could make and sell these since it is all open source.
@@retroCombs thanks for not forgetting. I'm hoping to find something portable that can run a CAD program and slicer so I can design and prepare 3d models for printing. Can't wait to find out how it goes. And I hope you have a MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎁🎄🎁 🙂.
18650 are produced by brands a lot bigger then Duracell.. like Tesla, Panasonic, Sony, Samsung, LG and so on. Duracell are still competing with carbon batteries from the 1970s.
I know. Hindsight is always 20/20 however, depending on your use, it might be worth the wait. Hopefully those supply chain issues will work themselves out sooner, rather than later.
The batteries I think those are good but the flat batteries is no go I feel it not safe. As of late those batteries explode. But it has it own pros and cons. But getting retro style.
18650s are great and in loads of things, no I don't think you will find duracell but you will find Sony, Samsung, Sharp etc. The name is based on the size by the way 18mm x 65mm
That's a great question and obviously something I need to explore. Raspbian OS is based on Debian so theoretically it should work. I'll give this a try and report back.
Most definitely not a scam. Clockwork has a track record of delivering products. I have two. I was on their early release list because of the channel but they told me about three months ago they would send me one to share. No word on when the next batch will be ready.
I'd just wanted to write about the 18650 form factor, but so many people did it. So, It's a good review. Thanks a lot.
18650 batteries have been a standard size for lithium ion rechargeables for decades. The best brands are Panasonic, Sanyo, Samsung, and LG. I usually use Samsung or LG.
It's just that until the past 8 years or so, I only saw them welded inside OEM battery packs. We used to take apart the battery packs of obsolete or broken laptops to get batteries for other projects. It was great when they became popular for flashlights, because we had piles of them ready to go.
I think this is my favorite reason for posting video, the comments! I learn so much. Thanks for the comment!
was about to comment that 18650 is a standard that was around for a long time when I noticed your post
I'd like to add that there are many good "unknown" brands out there (I like Molicel) but you do have to do your homework and read tests and reviews for each model before purchasing. But most importantly ONLY purchase from reputable stores. There are tons and tons of knockoffs (yes, even of those unknown brands, so avoid aliexpress and ebay) and the mAh may be far from advertised. Also, keep in mind that there are protected and unprotected 18650, with a button or flat top; so length may vary. And finally, respect the battery... these are not some silly AAA and can cause serious harm when pierced or mishandled.
@tom-was Great tips and advice. Thanks!
They were also heavily used in the vaping scene. Most devices would run one or more and if you have a vape store nearby, you can probably pick some decent ones from there if you don't want to buy online for whatever reason.
@@loopspin225Thanks and their use in vaping products was not something I was familiar with, nor the whole vaping scene. Give me a good cigar instead! 😂
As soon as I knew about this device I ordered one for testing and development. For me it is the applications in my work that make it very interesting. This is a much cheaper, robust and less hassle option than laptops that we've been using so far for configuring and field programming machines that we manufacture. I showed this to the guys at work and they were immediately hooked on the idea of simple, small and cost efficient field terminals. I will write custom versions of software tools we have for running them on the uConsole display and we have a nice new tool which is much easier to maintain and carry than how laptops are. Extending the battery life in field conditions is also simple with a power bank, no need for a special one that can charge a laptop. If we need to update something, even the whole OS and set of tools can be updated to a ready-made card image and then just swap the card to the terminal in a few seconds to perform the actual update. The service guys can just pop in, change card and away they go. I'm also loving the possibility for designing a custom board to the expansion port and have that do stuff that eliminates the need for adapters or external devices that we have to use with laptops currently.
Now that's a use case! Thanks for sharing this.
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Hey @miscme7116 does this device allows you to use it as an KVM* (kind of) switch?
* I'm looking for something that's capable of serving as both: portable display and an input device (KB, mice)
@Baizaio Not sure. Don't have a KVM, but if it would work with a Raspberry Pi, it should work with the uConsole.
@@Baizaio I am still waiting for mine, should be delivered on the next batch, so I have no information about this yet.
I'm really excited to try Mathematica on this great little device. The ultimate pocket calculator! I ordered mine today, now the waiting begins...
Another great use case! Thanks.
I'd love to hear an update on this. I ordered mine a month ago, but am aware of the long wait. I too am looking forward to portable legit Mathematica.
That would be an awesome use of this device.
Wasn’t gonna order until you mentioned the possibility of upgrading to a RPi CM5 module, definitely want to be ready. 😮
Let's keep those fingers crossed that the CM5 uses the same connector.
18650 is my most used battery. Seems everything uses them. 5 hours is good and I bet you could get 8 with some quality cells. I dig it 👍
I'm curious. What other ways do you use these batteries? I've used them on the Dev Term and uConsole and that's it.
@@retroCombs 18650 is pretty much common for Vape kits (e-cigs) Also some rechageable gadgets like BT speakers have it internally. It even runs Tesla cars. I assume you already have some (probably non-replacable) 18650s in your house unknowingly.
@ntheweird Absolutely no e-sigs in the house but you do make me want to break out all my Bluetooth speakers, open them up and see what's inside. 🙂
I'm not sure what I would need this for, but I want one anyway. That said (and as another comment pointed out) they would make a great field terminal for configuring or servicing industrial process control or embedded systems. I work a lot in the OT world and these devices would rule in that scenario, especially with the LTE module so you could be completely untethered. It's the best realisation of the cyberdeck that I've seen.
I agree but some disagree with the cyber deck notion. I still enjoy using this little device. I'm anxious to see a Raspberry Pi CM5 upgrade. It will be amazing with this processor and additional memory.
Just stumbled upon this video because I'm going through reviews of this wonderful little machine. I really want one. It would go great with my Alienware 18 and Macbook Air for traveling. Also, I wouldn't say the power issue is a negative really. The 18650 cells are easily available at most vape and smoke shops. I use two of them in my vape mod. Great review, subbed and hello fellow C64 user!
Awesome. Welcome to the channel and appreciate the comments!
What would you use it for? I can’t find a use case but I want one 😂
Check out the pinned comment but agree, it's a want, not a need.
18650 cells aren't common in consumer electronics, but they have been the most common, de facto standard, LiIon form factor for years.
i would love to see an alternative option, using a pouch cell instead, that makes use of all the available space. that could easily double or even triple the battery life.
Agree. It's an odd, if not functional option and I get that using them reduces design and manufacturing costs.
I was think about designing an alternative battery board using many vertical 18350 cells instead of two horizontal 18650s.
Battery life should still improve greatly but without sacrificing the ability to hot swap cells without tubring off the uconsole.
@qdaniele97 Make sure to share if you do.
@@retroCombs 18650s are actually far safer to use than a pouch battery, and are becoming more and more standard in the electronics industry. The trick with pouches is they are an unprotected cell that can easily get damaged, whereas an 18650 at least has a metal can around the lipoly cells to protect the cathodes and gel. I've had several other you-put-it-together products from small manufacturers that did not take steps to protect the pouch batteries, and the result was... explosive in at least one of them.
@@NybblesandBytes 🤯Explosions are not good!
I just discovered this channel. Im subscribing. I might buy this. Its cool.
Thanks for the sub and hope you find some other great content on the channel.
Just ordered one. For most things, there are better options - Gaming: SteamDeck, Content Consumption: pretty much any tablet, Dev terminal: any old laptop with a good keyboard and Linux/ChromeOS. For me, I'm going to try it as a handheld music production box. It's cheaper than most of the bespoke units from Roland, Korg, etc. Now I only need to wait FOREVER for it to ship.
Very interesting use. What software do you need?
@@retroCombs Lots of music creation software for Linux and much of it runs on ARM. The key will be learning how best to utilize the smaller display and focusing on a keyboard based workflow.
@@DouglasRosser You might want to pair it with another monitor. Even something like this small, Wimaxi monitor (I have two in my studio) could make things easier on-the-go. Here's the link (#ad) - amzn.to/3LzSMjQ
@charlesbrickner6006 FYI people have been waiting for over a year to receive their units after ordering. Check out their forums for the ugly details.
"Better" is subjective. The terms "SteamDeck" and "pretty much any tablet" directly translate to large, data-hungry corporations. ARM chips are very likely backdoored by the government, but at least corporations can't spy on you.
The logic runs on 3.3v. Common batteries are 1.5v when fresh, then start draining. So even with 4 batteries in series-parallel, you would only get 3.0v. I like those weird batteries. 3.7v give you some headroom before the 3.3v regulator.
Likely the best "battery reply" yet. Thanks!
I use a lot of 18650 batteries. Find them mostly in old laptop battery packs which failed. They are high amps. I can literally "repair" them from ending up near 0 voltage. A dead one won't. Find them safe so far in many setups.
Thanks for the additional info and comment. I'm learning much more about these little power sources.
Those batteries are used in all sorts of equipment. Not only most computer battery packs have them in there, but also vaping shops are selling them.
But you can't purchase them a WalMart or Target, or really any local department store. That's what I meant by non-standard. I think this one items has more comments than any other. Glad it sparked some conversation.
Thanks for the video... Very well explained and I am looking forward to more videos on the uConsole 👍 As a bonus (for me) I subscribed to your channel 😃 BR, Per (Denmark)
Awesome. Thanks for the kind comment and sub! I do have another uConsole video planned among my retro content. Stay tuned.
Great review. I just ordered a Wi-Fi only model as I probably won't use this to work outside often. Hard to choose between silver and black, but I selected black.
Thanks! Glad you like the video. Tried to keep it short and pithy as well as informative. I think black was the way to go and agree. Most folks won't need the 4G Wi-Fi. They were kind enought to include it but I would have chosen the Wi-Fi model and save a few bucks. Get ready for a whole mess of fun and get those batteries ordered (#ad) amzn.to/48qWg1X
Yeah I don't understand why anyone would need the 4G version? I can just tether my phone through wifi and use 4G that way. I also have trouble deciding which color....
@Snaketown1337 And you can save a few dollars.
I just purchased one. Hopefully it it doesnt take a year lol. Very interesting device
A recent commenter said he'd heard his was on track for summer.
Based on your video and Eta primes, I had to order one... Portable pi with a full physical thumb keyboard that's backlit. Also ordered it with the cellular module. Just in case. Its like the pocket chip fused with the retroflag game boy style case. Probably better. And I've been kind of a long time vaper unfortunately so I've got a few 18650s sitting around. They were very common in devices a few years ago.
I do miss the Pocket C.H.I.P. and this does fill that void nicely!
Definitely do more uconsole content please it’s few and far between
Coming up some content this weekend for my uConsole and MEGA65 fans.
Yep 18650 are probably the most common format for lithium batteries. They're easy to find, available in many variants (less current output usually translates to higher capacity), cheap, and swappable.
Anyone who is into vaping would probably have at least 4 of them laying around, and maybe a dedicated charger.
I'm sure that thinner formats are available, but again, using 18650 is the best option to lower the final price, as many users probably already have them
That seems to be the consensus. Thanks for the comment.
"those strange 18650" ??? 18650 are quite common, especially when u wanna have swap-able liion batteries (what is great instead of having some weird pouch cells that may be clued in)
Per my other comments regarding the battery, until I can walk into a Target or Walmart and find these on the shelves in brands by Duracell or Energizer, these will continue to be a mystery to the majority of the people. They know AAA, AA, C, & D. If I asked a family member to grab an 18650 while they are out shopping, I don't think a single one would know what I was talking about or even find one. Hopefully that helps explain why I think these are "strange." Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@retroCombs Fair, but there is also a really good technical reason for it. If you use AAA, AA or so you use "Alkaline" chemistry. They work pretty well if you don't pull too much current. The more current you draw from an alkaline battery the worse its capacity gets (a LOT worse actually). That's why you wanna use LiPo. And the most common Li-Ion format with widely available charger is 18650. That's why it is often used if you need a lot of power. Alkaline is only used for low power applications.
@Markste-in Great info and great discussion. Thanks so much for sharing. Comment pinned for others. 📌
And there are known major manufacturers of 18650’s. Sony, LG, Sanyo to just name a few. They are the most common lithium ion battery. They are not Lipo which is lithium polymer. Those are typically the non removable pouch style or the cells that are in most cell phones. And like the person said before alkaline don’t even come close to comparing to any lithium
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the keyboard sound satisfying
Nice and clicky. You know when it reads your presses.
18650 batteries are a standard, and are extremely popular. They’re just not often used in consumer electronics.
What are some other uses for these batteries?
Maybe they are no longer conmon in consumer electronics but until a couple of years ago, when laptops with removable batteries were a thing, most used packs of 18650 cells.
@@retroCombsUsually building battery packs for rechargeable devices, from powerbanks to electric powertools.
They aren't actual batteries but single lithium cells and only recently they have become more popular to use on their own instead of bundled up in packs of many.
I think the best brands for them are probably samsung or sony but most chinese ones are good too.
They are popular among hobbysts because are more robust and can take a lot more mishandling than flat pouch lithium cells even without an enclosure around them.
@@qdaniele97 Got it. Thanks for the follow up. Learning a lot more about these little power packs.
@qdaniele97 Did not know that. Interesting.
Love the SX-64 in the background. That was the first computer I owned. I hacked the hell out of that sucker, new font chip, hacked bios, extra I/O. I have stories. I suspect that I was the only inmate in federal prison with my own SX-64 in my room. Like I said, I have stories.
It's been over 90 days since my uConsole order and I'm wondering where it's at. Anyway, I sub'd you just because of the SX-64.
The SX-64 shows up regularly on the channel and especially during my livestreams with it making an appearance during my Christmas Eve stream this year. It's a recent acquisition because I could never afford one when I was younger.
Whoa, didn't know they let computers in the federal prison system. I'm sure you do have stories and guess you had some time to really learn about it.
Thanks for subbing and be on the lookout. I do have some SX-64 content planned. I suspect you know more about the device than I do!
thank you this video convinced to make the purchase
Glad I could help and hope you are able to get one shipped. Seems there is a backlog on supply at the moment. Let me know when you receive one.
You know what this needs to be a true cyberpunk device..? Goggles. If I had this, I would use it with some of those pass-through glasses that put a virtual screen up, and just use the box as a way to type and navigate. EDIT: I found the perfect "goggles" for this, and it's the Xreal glasses with the Air accessory.
Cool idea. I'll have to research out the goggles you recommend.
These do look cool. amzn.to/47Zrige (#ad) butI didn't see compatibility with Linux. Might not work with this device out of the box.
I still like the DevTerm more as it’s screen is bigger and I am not much into those thumb keyboards. I had a Sharp Zaurus in the early 2000s and thought the keyboard was painful. I just discovered these devices and I might get a DevTerm with a Pi CM4 next year as a computer for camping. This will allow me to do planning of bike trips with Komoot, and play an 8 or 16 bit game or two in the evening before sleeping, and it’s not as expensive as an iPad or a full fledged notebook, should it get stolen or break.
Be sure to check out my Dev Term video. That keyboard can be a bit finicky but might be exactly what you are looking for. Thanks for the comment!
@@retroCombs I already watched both of them. I might make myself a Christmas present out of it. I'll try to prepare an SD card with some systems on my Pi400 to check if everything would work as expected.
@@20windfisch11 Ah, someone else who buys a Christmas present for themselves! And this will make a great one. I love a present that will keep me busy during the day and either of these are perfect!
Going to buy one of these with raspberry 4 compute module, and hope to upgrade to raspberry pi 5 compute module when its released hopefully later this year.
Good plan. Will he interesting to see if the CM5 will be a direct replacement. Hope so and uConsole won't need to offer a modified daughter card.
Just ordered mine thanks.
Did they give you an estimated ship date?
@@retroCombsit just says expidited shipping at this point.... I'll reply back when I know more. Heard some bad press on some customers...
@@armisis Appreciate it. I'm trying to get a handle on the device's availability.
@@retroCombs I am looking forward to it, I want to use it as my controller device for my raspberry pi 5/4 cluster and to manage my home assistant.
@@retroCombs They emailed me and said the expected time to ship is 90 days.
Cool Review, thank you!
Now if it would be possible to use it as a FOSS smartphone alternative, i would be totally sold. :)
Seems possible with the 4G board and VOIP.
It's a nice little unit, and would be so nice IF only Clockwork would actually live up to their delivery dates. But as it is, they've left some people waiting a year for delivery, all the while promising that it would be "in the next batch".
I do wish they could get it out to everyone who wants one.
I ordered the uConsole after seeing your Video. Butnafter this i saw in the clockwork forum that people are waiting about a year for delivering.
That's a long wait and hoping the supply chain opens up sooner but I have no knowledge of that aspect of delivery.
I never knew i need this until now.
Well, need and want are different things. 😂 But for some, if the power is the RPi 4 works, I think this is a better purchase than the 400.
This is awesome, if this was shrunken down to a phone size w ports it would be amazing.
What would you recommend for a keyboard with the smaller form factor?
@@retroCombs I think the keyboard and form factor of the Astro slide phone would work great, except with a folding design.
If they made this a folding design with a large Blackberry keyboard that would be slick too, or a 1080p screen.lol
@irregularradio9826 I know they read the comments so maybe they will get an idea or two. It does seem as if each model gets smaller.
I did not know that BBS were still around. As. Kid on my C64 being able to dial up to a trivia BBS was awesome but the waiting 1 to 2 weeks for a reply was not. I guess they could be better today with easy online access.
Many are still available via Telnet. It's a blast from the past.
I've been on the pre order waiting list for over a month now.
Sorry to read that. Seems to be the state of shipping right now. 😩
Love this!! I really wished someone one would make a similar form factor with Windows installed. I have guitar equipment that requires Windows based software and my fear is that the gear will outlive the compatibility of future versions of Windows. Plus, having something this compact would be perfect to bring out on the road.
I believe there's an Arm version of Windows that runs on the Raspberry Pi, but don't quote me. Might be a good Google research project or someone here might know.
I would like to see it run a local LLM via OLLAMA... I dont think it has enough ram, probably have to wait for a CM5 version with 8GB.
That's a cool idea! Looks like it might run the Orca, Dolphin Phi, or Phi models but what I haven't been able to determine if Raspian OS is a flavor of Linux supported. Looks like we could build the package and might even be possible that the Linux install script would work.
Those look very cool. Totally very retro devices, but still something for modern in them.
I would like to see these as properties in some movies, be it for a some kids playing something or some hacker going to save the day pulling this out from bag (like Die Hard 4).
This kind computers are as well something that, again, would be like One Laptop Per Child (that was ruined by the Netbooks for 1st world market).
They would make a great prop for a movie. Maybe some Hollywood producer will see your post! 😂
@@retroCombs The team should send couple to some known action/sci-fi movie props masters, it could be worth it as they will speak out about it then more often.
Considering how many movies even use a common game peripherals like joysticks to be used in flight scenes, the movies are still stuck mostly to desktop/laptop use.
@paristo The great thing about the uConsole is its hackability both inside and out.
18650 battery is standard and far better than those custom packs that may not easy to find replacement, and it is better to have a removable battery cover for quick replacement. I just hope this thing is power efficient, so that I can keep it on standby to check email regularly like my tablet, of course the 4G module must be working first.
Just made a new comment about why I don't believe these are "standard" but see your viewpoint too. So far, these work well in the uConsole.
Still haven't activated 4G. I really need to do that.
18650 cells are common on laptop batteries (if you want to get them recycled) usually a faulty laptop battery have 6x18650 cells inside and maybe only 1 or 2 of them are dead but the rest are good to use, or you can buy on the internet, I suggest samsung 18650 cells, an usb-c cable and a medium size powerbank can make the 4 to 5 hr of battery to maybe 8 to 12 hr
I need to find some old laptops and break down their batteries. Thanks for the for info!
The 18650 IS a standard size. You find them in name brands such as samsung.
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@@retroCombs its not a standard size like alkaline a,c,d but its the standard size when using lithium. Any USB chargers that don't use pillow lithium cells most certainly use 18650s. Anker battery packs use them, most Tesla cars, the Tesla wall, any vape device that isn't instant e-waste. The form factor and weight make them very attractive. I use them for my LORA network, depending on usage they can last a couple months! You can get cheap chargers from them on that online store, I forget the name 🙊.
But, I recommend not buying off brand cells. Its not like putting a rayovac aa in something and just have to clean up corrosion. They can be VERY destructive. As in. Thermal ignition. I got a few that where no name 6 letter China things, bad idea. After the second one went thermal I recycled them and exclusivity use Samsung. I don't like the company for many reasons but unmanaged batteries, they know what they are doing.
I have the same Unicomp Model-M keyboard. Just something about those buckling spring keys :)
Agree. They are awesome sounding with an appropriately awesome feel.
3:05 imagine in a few years...today I just saw raspberry pi 5 was announced let's hope the CM5 is gonna have the same connections
Yes! Saw the same announcement and already pre-ordered the Raspberry Pi 5 with 8 Gb. Can't wait to give it a go.
I've been chatting with Clockwork. I shared additional information in my Discord, but the short of it is, stay tuned! 😄
This is so cute and convenient cyberdeck! The price is very good too!
Is it possible to charge these batteries from the USB-C and if so, how much time does it take?
They do charge from the USB-C cable. Around 2 hours but don't quote me on that one. 😁
@@retroCombs thank you! :)
@vasiovasio Welcome!
I have one of these on order. Clockworkpi is saying there is currently a 90 day lead time.
I'm sure the supply chain issues are the cause. They are getting better though. Hopefully yours will arrive sooner. Looks like yet are Pre-Order only right now.
I'd love to know how well this works for rust development on the go. Generally it would be interesting to see how the speed compares to old laptops.
It would have the same performance as a Raspberry Pi 4. Have you tried Rust development on one of those devices?
@@retroCombs unfortunately I do not own any so do not have any way to test it. I might consider buying a separate compute module and testing with it before getting the uConsole.
@kc3vv For the CM4, you will need a board to place it in. Id recommend you get a standard Pi 4 #ad (amzn.to/49OSMqF) or even better the 400 (amzn.to/3QWE2gJ). If you find its a good experience, then thr uConsole might be a good choice.
don't understand why everyone says 18650 batteries are non-standard
all my modern flashlights use them
battery packs were built using 18650's
when my old laptops die I scavenge the battery pack for 18650's
but I guess modern stuff uses those flat-packs which I consider strange
no more scavenging with the new stuff
yeah, 18650's are hard to find...
especially without an included charger which I have plenty of
too bad the uConsole doesn't use 21700 batteries which seem to be replacing 18650
the uConsole looks INTERESTING!
especially since my smart phone BLEW up
the flat battery pack swelled up and POP!
the uConsole would go well with my flip phone, which has a replaceable batt-pack
FYI: years ago in a galaxy far, far away...
I dis some field service using a TRS-80-100 for interfacing with the data logging system
I love the Model 100 and have one in the collection. I keep telling myself that one day I'm going to put together a video.
Is any terminal emulation software available to run IBM 5250 emulation for remote access to AS/400?
AS/400. You still have access to one of those? I haven't seen one since the mid 1990s.
@@retroCombs Yup. For a fee, of course.
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Looks really cool. I know i want it/dont need it but seems like perfect Christmas gift. I wonder if it could be used as SDR radio?
I believe there is SDR radio software available for Raspian OS/Debian, so that should be an option.
Can you get LTE-M and NB-IoT modules instead of 4G? Narrowband would be perfect for this device. Broadband is overkill I think, unless you ant to use it to transfer data to another device from the internet. Narrowband data plans cost less.
I'm not aware that these modules are available but enterprising folks could make one.
“Sent over….with no strings attached” I emailed them a few weeks ago and they claimed the batches were not delayed because of units sent out to TH-camrs. Thanks for the ammo, I was less than 100 spots away from my friend and they pushed my delivery date by 3 months now from his. What the heck???
I was informed back in July that one was coming my way. I can't speak to lead or shipment delays. Here's hoping that can shorten those delays. Keep me in the loop on arrival.
@@retroCombs thanks for the reply, yeah nothing on you it’s just frustrating to see them prioritize certain outlets on a preorder item that clearly sold out so the need for marketing is pretty minimal right now. Maybe review units that get shipped around but I’ve seen a ton of giveaways for other channels and such
@decimat777 Oh, I've not seen the giveaways. I get it. I waited over a year and a half for a MEGA65 and over 2.5 years for a Spectrum Next issue 2. Maybe the best things do come to those who wait (through a COVID pandemic logistics shortage). 😂
I only wish all electronics these days used 18650s, at least they're not proprietary batteries.
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This looks like it would be great for mobile console work on switches or things that need rs232 connection
I'm sure it would. I need to collaborate with @jamieshackshack (he's my network guy) and see if we can run some tools. Hmmm…
Was that Virtual T running on your DevTerm? I haven't seen it for Arm devices. Where can I get it? Thanks
It was and this link might help: forum.clockworkpi.com/t/virtualt-tandy-trs-80-model-100-emulator-for-devterm-a06-a04/8296
You can also check out my DevTerm video for more info: th-cam.com/video/I7StErCRl1Q/w-d-xo.html
Good eye!
if they make one that is pocket sized as just qwerty phone that'd be phenomenal.
They have a pocket gaming machine, so this wouldn't be a stretch for them.
@@retroCombs hope they (or other companies) do make that in future ✨
@@mrwoodcat I'd like to see a smaller version too.
My problem with this thing is exact same as with Flipper Zero - great thing, I so glad thing like this made by someone for sail, but I still have no idea what to do with it. Code? keyboard doesnt look like for a lot of typing, play? - tons of retro handhelds would do better. Even for admin job, screen would not fit grafana.
Guess this is perfect thing for my wishlist.
Yeah, it's a toy for killing time for most folks and a want, not a need. But as I show in my video, if you dock the thing, I'd rather have this than a Raspberry Pi 400. Grab and go with a small monitor and screen.
Actually it’s great for retro computing game (not retro console gaming). For instance c64, amiga, dos they all require a keyboard to have a full gaming experience. For retro console (nes, snes, psx, gamecube and so on), handheld retro console would be better
@maarcvaalmaarcvaal8325 Agreed and that's the focus of my use on this device.
I would like to see how usefull it may be as a remote terminal in a server environment.
I'm not a server guy, but maybe someone else can come in on this one. I do use it to SSH and SFTP into other computers.
Been waiting 10 months for my uConsole so far so be prepared for a wait.
It is true. Wait times can be long.
can you use orange pi cm5? or similar modules?
I don't think so since they have this OS tweaked to work with the CM4.
Would the uconsole be capable of running combian?
It would but not out of the box. The kernel for the uConsole has been modified to match the uConsole hardware. I'm pretty sure the Combian developer would not build this into his distribution. It would be very cool though if some enterprising Linux expert would take it on as a project.
I should mention, in there interim, VICE does work on the device.
Good review, I am also considering to buy this
I hope this helped inform your purchase. Let me know if you have other questions.
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It helped a lot thank you
@@maxchen2010 Awesome.
I ordered this in December of 2022. The company always responded when I asked what was going on with shipping my unit, there was always some kind of excuse, but after eight months I cancelled my order and to their credit they did refund my money. This is not “buyer beware,” it’s more like “don’t bother.” You can order this from clockwork but it’s not ever coming. Don’t even bother.
Wow, that's almost a year. It is a case that if you can wait and don't really "NEED" this type of device, keeping your order in the queue will get you one at the soonest possible availabililty. I'm curious, what excuses did they provide? Logistics and supply? Thanks for commenting!
Interesting device, but not better to take Lenovo go? Looks like a faster and more comfortable solution. The keyboard steals reading space. And if you use a normal external one it will be more convenient. And pressing the screen is quieter and more convenient... And the SSD can be replaced
I'm not familiar with the Lenovo Go but I'll take a look.
Hi! I am new to your channel!! Out of curiosity, I noticed the trackball looks if not exactly like the blackberry had. would I be able to attach aftermarket trackball like blackberry had? different colored ones etc?
Almost identical to the blackberry trackball but as you say a bit looser. It would seem that with some modifications you could swap these out. It would be a fun and interesting project.
Such a cool little device. I would love to see more about this.
Quick question, should this device be able to expand the Micro SD to a 512GB for max storage? I'm thinking this would be cool to have an offline information library using kiwix but this uses quite a bit of storage so, a 512GB would be better for what I want to do. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this...
Found the following on the Clockwork website: "**The tested maximum capacity is 256GB." Now, that's tested. It would be an interesting test. Unfortunately the largest I have is a 256.
Great thanks for the info. I ordered one for myself 6 days ago and I'm so excited to try it out for myself. I've been looking for a compact computer with basic functionality, but I don't like chromebooks so this seems like a great alternative to experiment with since I'm already semi-competent with Ras Pi and Linux computers lol @@retroCombs
Hey great video, you mention at the start that they sent it to you with no strings attached, are you a batch one buyer or did they send it to you first free for PR?
I told them I was going to purchase one and asked if they had one to either loan or have. They were kind enough to send one out when the first batch became available. Does that help?
This would be a perfect replacement for my smartphone but i don’t think you can make voice calls and SMS out of the box with this
You cannot but with Google Voice, you could create a reasonable facsimile.
@@retroCombs thank you. That’s a good fallback. However, my goal is to get away from Google/Apple so I am constantly looking at DYI solutions - but voice and text transport is not an easy feat I understand (look at the Pinephone, years in development and they still struggle to get it)
I like the track ball and qwerty keyboard, would there be a way to store photos onto a thumb drive via USB if so I'd gladly throw it my cheap Walmart tablet.
Yes, it includes USB ports and of course if you use a cloud service like Google Photos, you can view photos on the browser.
So happy with this thing. Do you had wifi disconnetion?
Nope. Rock solid for me. Try connection with 'sudo raspi-config' terminal app and see if that helps.
Can you use like windows and stuff on it because I was thinking about buying the kit to build a pocket PC for my audio editing stuff
There is a version of Windows for ARM for the Raspberry Pi but no one recommends it. The CM4 isn't fast enough. That could change when a CM5 is released.
just so everyone knows, I ordered one and they said allow 90 days for shipping... 5 months later I'm canceling my order because they said it would be another 5 months. Shipping is almost a year out on these, but they don't say anything to the customer. You just wait and wait and nothing ever happens.
Sorry to read that folks are having a difficult time grabbing one of these.
Can you use Ableton live 12
I don't have experience trying this but the general answer is, if it work on a regular raspberry pi 4, it should work on this device.
Not a criticism of this package, im really thinking about ordering one, i just feel that 4gb of memory on the cm4 is just too small! I hope the future pi modules come with 16!!!
Even 8 Gb would be a nice size but I have to say, Raspian OS does run well with 4.
@@retroCombs It does, but, I have this fantasy that I could run modded Minecraft on it one day. In this form factor! I'd also live to get a cluster going using cm what ever version going however due to the memory limitations it wouldn't be practical. Covid really set them back on development and manufacturing. I hope we can see something new soon! Their regular pi platform has a new release, but I'd like to just plug 20 CMs into a board and go.
I have to point out, when we where kids, this was unimaginable. We've gone so far. I can hold something in my hand and not be completely broke when it dies that would have been world changing in the 80s. Even 90s, a cm4 would ruin every encryption.
@@djksfhakhaks We live in a great time for technology, for sure!
Can the 4g module be added later if you start with the basic one?
There's technically no reason you can't but I've not seen them offered in the Clockwork store. Maybe once stock is full, they will put these modules in their store. It's also possible someone else could make and sell these since it is all open source.
I don´t understand why they choose that D-PAD. Lots of better options, they had to choose the worst.
I just realized that the D-pad is the same as the cursor keys. On the DevTerm they were separate. I liked that arrangement more.
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At least someone watched until the end! 😂 Anything specifically? I've already had a MEGA≡65 request.
the 4g cellular board in action please!!@@retroCombs
No promises that will happen immediately but I'll add it to the list. Great recommendation.
It looks great, what are you doing with it?
I've been using it as a portable browser, terminal testing, and running several experiments on it. Oh, and retro gaming.
Could you try running CAD programs like freecad or blender on it? It would be incredible if it could be used for CAD on the go 🙂
I'll check it out.
@@retroCombs have you had a chance to try any CAD programs? From what I've seen of the specs, the raspberry 4 should be able to handle it.
Not yet. Trying to find some time over my Christmas break to run a few tests.
@@retroCombs thanks for not forgetting. I'm hoping to find something portable that can run a CAD program and slicer so I can design and prepare 3d models for printing. Can't wait to find out how it goes. And I hope you have a MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎁🎄🎁 🙂.
I can confirm Slicer for you. I have installed CURA.
I want that thing running my gauges and relays and sensors on my car...
GPIO pins might be an issue so check the devices technical specs if you do try to do this project.
can the uConsole work with an 8GB RAM raspberry pi CM4?
I wouldn't know why not; however, I don't have one to test. I'm hoping when the CM5 drops, that will fit. The device would be amazing with a CM5.
@@retroCombs yeah. They might as well put 16 or 32 gb of ram on the cm5
Hi friend, Can this device be used as Mobile Broadband?
It can. The model they send me has the slot for a SIM.
@@retroCombs Gracias amigo.
so this does work with the pi5?
We won't know until the CM5 is released.
Like this system and the idea of it, but its sad to go to their website and see 90% of their kits sold out. 😕
Don't disagree. Those supply chain issues are a challenge for smaller companies such as Clockwork.
18650 are produced by brands a lot bigger then Duracell.. like Tesla, Panasonic, Sony, Samsung, LG and so on. Duracell are still competing with carbon batteries from the 1970s.
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Wish I knew about this last year, so I could have ordered it then :( shipping will take forever
I know. Hindsight is always 20/20 however, depending on your use, it might be worth the wait. Hopefully those supply chain issues will work themselves out sooner, rather than later.
Samsung, Sony, LG and Panasonic all make high quality 18650 batteries.
I'll be on the lookout.
What do you think of NMT Pocket Reform?
Checked it out online and like the concept. I might reach out and see if they are interested in sending me one for a review on the channel.
@@retroCombs Good Luck.
@zweiwing4435 No return communication from them. 😩
@@retroCombs I do keep dreaming pocket computer in my pants.
oh, i was thinking that clockwork devices are kinda like cyberdecks, and i think i got a bit too happy when he called then one
Aren't they like cyberdecks? At least I think it fits the definition.
The batteries I think those are good but the flat batteries is no go I feel it not safe. As of late those batteries explode. But it has it own pros and cons. But getting retro style.
Good addition. You are correct that at least with these batteries you get a retro feel. Never thought about it that way. 👍🏻
18650s are great and in loads of things, no I don't think you will find duracell but you will find Sony, Samsung, Sharp etc.
The name is based on the size by the way 18mm x 65mm
I'll look for a name brand. Thanks for the heads up and the naming convention explanation!
Isn't that a USB A port? I thought the USB B was for printers.
Good catch. Yes, A. Thanks for the correction! 🤦🏻♂️
Is it possible to upgrade from the 32GB TF-card the unit comes with?
I'd love to get one of these decks if I can swap out for a nice 265GB card.
Yes. You can download their image and then expand the partition.
@@retroCombs Awesome. Definitely going to get one then.
@ExtraStage300 Be prepared to wait. There's a supply chain log jam right now. But your patience will pay off. 😁
Guess whats inside of EVERY Tesla battery pack? A whole bunch of 18650 batteries 😂
But, of course! 🔋😂
how do you get one tho
Unfortunately, you can't right now. :(
Hi! Can the Pi run Xemu to have a portable M65?
That's a great question and obviously something I need to explore. Raspbian OS is based on Debian so theoretically it should work. I'll give this a try and report back.
Do you think its possible to run a windows lite os on that ??
Folks have it running but say it is too sluggish to use. Maybe when the CM5 is released.
can this little awesome machine runs OBS to stream?
That's an awesome question. Let me dig into that for you.
How many months passed before you received the Clockwork? because in reddit the people talks about scam. I don't believe it but I buy it.
Most definitely not a scam. Clockwork has a track record of delivering products. I have two. I was on their early release list because of the channel but they told me about three months ago they would send me one to share. No word on when the next batch will be ready.
I want one so bad but you cant get them i literally want to cry
I know its frustrating. Hopefully we'll see a supply of them soon.