Filming on a 20-year-old Digital 8 camera!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Filmed with a 20-year-old Sony Handycam, Griffin explains interlacing, pixel aspect ratios, IEEE 1394, and the quirks of shooting and editing in standard definition.
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It actually looks very good for the age, even acceptable in today’s standard
This has been a trip down memory lane....we used mini DV tapes back when I was using a camcorder.....and the FireWire cable.....had totally forgotten about that too. This has been an interesting episode
Great video. I personally own and use many of these old 8mm units and love them. All still fully working and the joy of owning a camera again that I remember buying new back in 1999 is awesome fun. Very informative video for people and you should definitely use it more on the odd video or two as these old units deserve to keep going! Subscribed! 👍
aww the film fighting days! should have opened up with the video haiku "Name's Griffinity"
Where the hell have you been!? We missed you
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480×4÷3=640. 720 is what it actually is, with 8:9 pixels.
Bring Nick back! As a regular audience member, I find it almost unwatchable without his charming presence.
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It looks cool in modern times mixed in with HD video. for sure make home videos 😀 which reminds me that I'm really considering getting a super 8 film camera for fun!
Why????????????????
I remember these days when we all use MiniDV tapes and not memory cards
Also, I want to point out, your current mac DOES have thunderbolt. Those ports are Thunderbolt 3 ports, which use USB-C connector and also support USB. Not every USB C port is thunderbolt, but yours are.
I can't believe you didn't de-interlace it and show it properly. lol...come on Griffin :)
I should've mentioned that FCPX has the ability to properly de-interlace the footage, but I switched it off because I wanted to demonstrate what interlacing is.
@@GriffinHammond that's a whole video by itself ... lol
I like theses 8bit câmeras more than “4K things.
I remember those days!!! My first HD cam was the Sony FX1, HDV to be precise. I still use modern camcorders as for my projects I need motorized zooms for event work, and they STILL have infrared remotes and some do have IR modes as well, even with 4K cameras!!!
This was fun! You should try a 40 year old camera next!
Sony still make camcorders with remotes and night vision. Sony AX100
yo lo utilizo aun las cámaras video 8
Hi Griffin …I came across this film called…computer chess by Andrew bujalski….they used a Sony AVC-3260….and that film has been playing in theatres….don’t know how did they upped the resolution…also there was a film called Festen released in 1999 in Germany…they used a Sony DCR-PC3..I don’t know and can’t seem to find any source as to how did they got the print for a film theatre….maybe they just used a telecine to print the output on a real 35 mm celluloid roll…like they used to in the 1940s at the beginning of TV….I would like to shoot a short film too with a VHS vibe….with real VHS equipment..
But how do I get it into a film theatre…can you please help…..
At university, we used the Sony DSR-PD150. I remember the tape deck just to get your footage from the tape to the computer was more expensive than most modern cameras. I did the same trick for shallow depth of field. We did have some manual controls on that one though, thankfully.
Lovely unit. I have the newer PD170 and still do the odd upload to TH-cam from it. Picture still holds up very well for what it is 😊
PD150 was my first camera when i started getting into film making about 8 or 9 years ago. Quickly moved on to DSLR but the PD150 was fantastic
I had this camera. My in-laws got it for us when we moved away when I joined the Navy. It was a great camera with lots of features. Fun fact about that night vision, it could be used to “see through cloths”. Look it up, I think you need a IR filter or a piece of film.
Actually you are way out of focus... and no joke, this would look amazing in a 1990 tube tv. You have to try that out.
I have (i guess) the next newest version of this camera... a miniDV version of this Sony. Also ieee1394 firewire 🤔
Just watched another video show digital 8 and the pixels are low crappy for far viewing ? I filmed a dance at a theater once and i was like whoa this looks so bad so lucky i had two nights to film took my hi 8 cam and used the digital 8 for taping much better.Sony did this cause they were worried about the mini dv and more expensive camera's being hurt if found out thanks Sony !
Hold on Griffin, are you telling me you are using a zoom camera as a zoom camera?? 😆😂
I have an old sony model very similar to yours. It has a firewire 400 connector that used to connect to my old mac, no longer. So I order a cable from China that has a USB cable. When I connected to my Mac, though, neither FCPX nor iMovie seem to identify the camera... oops! How did you manage?
Juan, I have an answer for you in our latest episode: th-cam.com/video/y-yd4ricthg/w-d-xo.html
Nick pointed out that although your Mac ports look like USB-C, they're actually Thunderbolt 3. So you may need the official Apple Thunderbolt adapters that I'm using, rather than a third-party adapter made for USB-C.
I use three adapters: a Belkin adapter that gets me from Firewire 400 to 800. Then an Apple adapter from Firewire 800 to Thunderbolt 2. Then a Thunderbolt 2 to Thunderbolt 3 adapter. That works for me in FCPX.
If I ever need to get footage off of my old MiniDV tapes I'm going to need a setup like yours. I'm working on a 2017 iMac. I used to have a Mid-2010 Mac Pro until it clonked out early last year. Still, I'm glad I don't have to deal with TAPES anymore! Man Alive, was that just a hassle! Good thing I got my one MiniDV feature film all finished and released two months before the Mac Pro died. For the record, I used to use a Sony DCR-VX2100 which was pretty unremarkable, but at least shot in widescreen.
Why is it SD? My TRV-260 was HD? And Widescreen. I recorded over FireWire.
I start with one like that it was awsone...time fly
YES FINALLY AN UPLOAD. I live in the UK and only just got your siracha documentary. I'm watching it on Friday. I'm EXITED. Live your videos!
If you get the chance, check it his old stuff with Indy Mogul! That's how I discovered him- I watched all his photo gear/news episodes there a long time after it got cancelled- then, a few months later, Indy Mogul came back.
@@JourdanCameron oo sounds interesting. I'll be sure to check it out
This is very interesting and perfect timing. I actually just posted a video about how to get a Hi-8 (or any tape camera) into your phone! You can record and also live stream from these old tape cameras directly through your phone. I did it with different adapters than what you used, but it really works. Just look two videos back on my channel.
Pleased show us the nightvision mode!
its just looks a green light,,and everything is green
All my homemade porn was recorded on a Sony digital 8
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Very good. I have subscribed
i have one of these, i usually rarely use it due to the vhs crt feature being broken
I had a very similar camcorder. I was so done with interlaced video, deinterlacing never worked for me.
This is awesome!!
10:50 wow he ZOOMIN
My dad had one of those camcorders Well in 2000 my parents got that as a wedding gift from my uncle when they got married . They have used from 2000-2008 they have shoot a lot of footage such as my great-grandpa’s 80th birthday, me as a baby, and a few of our pets from the past such good times!!!!
Loved it..Thank You, I have the Sony Hi8 ccd3200e 30years old and still in prime condition. It has full manual iris, shutter speed Zoom etc. Iris goes from 1.6 to 18 . To get footage onto my mac I copy to dvd recorder the rip those to hard drive. Much better quality than any of those usb attachments also it gives me dvd copies of footage for archiving. Great videos thanks again from Cork Ireland.
I had almost the same version.....it so crazy to think when importing footage you had to play it and it would capture it live no just loading it from the memory card....... does yours have cool effects like sepia tone and cinematic bars top and bottom.??? I got a wide angel adapter for mine and polarizing lenses back in the day.....
Yeah, same picture effects. I also had a really cool fisheye adapter that I lost in 2002.
Duuude, is this the camera you use for FilmFights! A relic!
Indeed it is!
I still have my Canon HV20 but couldn't figure out the firewire situation to USB
Are you talking about normal USB? Sadly it can’t be done from one to the other directly. With a IMac or a modern laptop USB-C can adapt with adapters like is done in this video. But yes normal USB is too slow and that’s why FireWire became the answer as it had a much faster throughput.
@@epicchris1985 Yes, it sucks 😕 thats why i have been holding on to my old 2000's computer tower lol
SaL your PaL yer thanks to Apple changing it’s ports... twice now to help us all I had to buy two lots of adapters from them. They are so kind 😂 Ohh well at least I can keep my retro gear alive... until Big Sur update comes out as so far it doesn’t work with FireWire anymore 🥲
I love that your kid will be able to look back and see your progression through filmmaking, and then being able to see this and see you reflecting back on your own growth - is that meta? Kinda wanna dig my Sony Handycam out now. I bought it for a holiday trip to India and was going to make a short documentary/vlog but never did (still got the footage somewhere though). Digital tape was kinda phasing out then and solid state (mainly SD card) storage cameras were on the up. I remember taking forever to decide which to buy and, after buying it, wished I'd gone for the latter (these Handycams were much bulkier by comparison) but, as you've shown, these cameras had options that the SD card cameras didn't, such as 20 to 30x optical zoom and infra-red (i found these quite handy). Now we can do lots more with our phones and, unless looking for that professional style, don't really need to take cameras with us. I wonder what camera tech will be availble to your son when he's 16?
Hello there Griffin I am very tempted to purchase the Panasonic S5 before I purchase the Panasonic Gh5s. The problem is the Autofocus.
please do a video on how to transfer the dv tape using FCP now! I have over 200 of this to transfer. special made with canon hdv camenera. 20 hi 8 of a Sony like your and 30 standard dv. je a lot. !!!!!
This is what I used to shoot and edit my first films here on TH-cam back in the day (2005-2008)
Yeah, last month I managed to use a HDV (Canon HV20) camera as a webcam for Zoom. Spent two weeks looking for a proper IEEE 1394 cable. Usually it is 6 pins on 4 pins. I needed 4 pins on both ends. And yes, camera released in 2007 gets better image than laptop webcam.
That's a lot of adapters to get it working! I'm glad we don't have to deal with a lot of the "quirks" this has nowadays but this is still pretty cool! Good job, Griffin!
Same thing happened to me with this camera, but mine was being stored and forgotten at my mom's garage! now l am in the "turn it on to see if it works" stage. Luckily, now they are selling new usb cables on it to connect it straight to the usb c ports of the computers.
Hope mine works too :)
Love it! I just picked a dcr-trv480. Had to order the i-link to 800 / 800 to thunderbolt cables. Can't wait to shoot some retro videos!
i have a miniDV sony dcr pc110 from the year2000
Nice!
what kind of digital 8 modle camera is this called that you where useing in this video
7:51 do you know where to buy that light separately? thanks again for this video!!!
That old Sony Handycam light is called the HVLIRH2, and I imagine it only works while attached to an old Sony Handycam. Here's a discontinued product page on Amazon: amzn.to/3y8nU1u
And I see at least one eBay seller selling one: ebay.us/Ghfegn
Are you looking for something similar, or you actually need this HVLIRH2 light to use on an old Sony camera? If you actually need one, let me know. I don't need mine. You could email me at griffin@hey.film
@@GriffinHammond hey Griffen, I’m interested. I just sent you an email! Thanks again!
@@stainsstains6367 Emailed you back. Thanks!
The 120 is my go-to camcorder! I love it!
Did you have to download any driver to connect the camera to the pc?
Night vision was the original "low light performance"
You should add links to get these adapters.
I put those links in the show notes at hey.film.
@@GriffinHammond Thanks!