Hey thanks for the video, i have some questions. why recall? with e + blast cone you are so much faster on wolves if you just run - is it really worth the longsword? i can see this working as a anti invade so i can reverse clear into botside on my respawns. (base with lngsword look top gank the clear into bot)
It's probably generally not worth it right now, correct. Taking E and blastcone to wolves isn't "so much" faster, my reasoning at the time was that you're still getting to scuttle on time, so you're up one longsword and some hp "for free". The downsides is that you dont have any flexibility to respond for ganks (after red quadrant or after full clear), and your blue side camps will respawn slower, which is often an important timer, around grub spawn and players hitting lvl 6.
@@Mike_BEASTon Thanks for the response. i found with testing that this clear is actually really cool. it makes you a lot stronger in a skrimish around scuttle (long sword) gives you stronger ganks after scuttle and lets you gank mid between red side and blue side spawns on your second clear. What often happend is that i gank mid from top after scuttle to chunk or get flash and then after raptors respawn to kill or then force flash. I first tested it on a dia 1 smurf and now am using it on my main when i have mids with good gank setup and/or volatile mid matchups or if enemy jungler paths to top when i am blue side or to bo when i am red side to match them but have a guaranteed advatage. the lack of flexibility does hurt me sometimes - but you are much more flexible and have weird timings on your gaks on the second jungle rotation.
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Appreciated
Hey thanks for the video, i have some questions. why recall? with e + blast cone you are so much faster on wolves if you just run - is it really worth the longsword? i can see this working as a anti invade so i can reverse clear into botside on my respawns. (base with lngsword look top gank the clear into bot)
It's probably generally not worth it right now, correct. Taking E and blastcone to wolves isn't "so much" faster, my reasoning at the time was that you're still getting to scuttle on time, so you're up one longsword and some hp "for free". The downsides is that you dont have any flexibility to respond for ganks (after red quadrant or after full clear), and your blue side camps will respawn slower, which is often an important timer, around grub spawn and players hitting lvl 6.
@@Mike_BEASTon Thanks for the response. i found with testing that this clear is actually really cool. it makes you a lot stronger in a skrimish around scuttle (long sword) gives you stronger ganks after scuttle and lets you gank mid between red side and blue side spawns on your second clear. What often happend is that i gank mid from top after scuttle to chunk or get flash and then after raptors respawn to kill or then force flash. I first tested it on a dia 1 smurf and now am using it on my main when i have mids with good gank setup and/or volatile mid matchups or if enemy jungler paths to top when i am blue side or to bo when i am red side to match them but have a guaranteed advatage. the lack of flexibility does hurt me sometimes - but you are much more flexible and have weird timings on your gaks on the second jungle rotation.
And then your mid laner flames you for not ganking them instead of recalling for Long Sword