Dear sir .... my cayenne sprout leaves now have big time drooping sprout leaves .... Its an indoor hydroponic ( in biochar sponge baskets) system. Do i keep it up out of the water sometimes ? Most of the plants dont mind the water ~~~ but i do notice sage likes a break from the constant watering from below ... and IM GUESSING CAYENNE NEEDS A LESS WATERED 'SOIL' TOO YOU SAY ??!?? ......__________.
Even as a grower of almost a decade it's nice to find a channel that can still open my eyes and teach this old dog new tricks. Thank you for the hard work and helping others gain valuable information. The pepper growing community is awesome, it brings together people from all walks of life and from all over the planet. Keep up the good work!
My Roma under lights looked horrible. Checked out pic online and they had edema. Our Bell peppers in the same location and conditions were not affected. Zone 6b. We puts Roma outside and are lush. I think Temp swings and down pours and high winds the blooms dropped. Grrrrr. New blooms on Roma and on one bell. You have been so helpful. Last year we had a great production of Bell peppers. Thank you.
You videos have been so helpful this year as I have had numerous weird issues with my peppers that I normally don't. Thank you so much for all the knowledge!
After 4 years of starting seeds in a Southeast(best I've got) facing window I finally got myself a really nice light. Really excited to have less leggy plants this year.
Mine role from almost birth.. UT was planted outside and it curls as it grows. I live in Florida so I do it outdoors.. It in a good size container and it's in the sun... I think it's calcium or lime.
I grow mine in balcony hangers, from seed, so outdoors. This is in Taiwan where we seldom get cold temperatures. The issue for me is not getting enough sunlight, do to shade from nearby buildings. Over time, I do get a good amount of peppers but I'm sure I'd get more if there was more sunlight. And I have realized I have to be careful not to over-water, thanks.
Bought sugar rush peach seeds. Started in grow cup and just put in the big pot. I think I overwatered because everything is curled up but it looks most like the ones shown with too much light. I can't see this being it though since I started them under sunlight, moved them around since germinated, and that never seemed an issue. People said it's easy on the sites that sell the seeds but it's not easy growing these at all.
Im running 70watt lights. Had them at the recommend 19 inches. Still had leaf burn and curl. Raised it to 23 inches, and cut my time from 16hrs to 12hrs. Fixed the problem.
@@PepperGeek Ok, I got a question. I've been hearing about the "Aji Charapita" pepper selling for thousands of dollars per pound. Some say like $11,000. Is there any truth to this?? Because seeds are extremely hard to come by, but after a very long search I found some. Was wondering how legit those prices are because it seems like absolute bullcrap.
I certainly wouldn’t pay it! That seems to be a false claim, but I don’t have any proof either way. We have seeds and will be growing a plant this year. I think since they are so small, growing a pound of pods would take a few plants, though they are apparently pretty prolific. Good luck selling pods for that price 😂
@@PepperGeek Oh no I wasn't planning on selling pods for that price. But if you Google it pretty much every website claims its like the holy grail of peppers. I figured it was some BS. I honestly just want to eat them, lol. Thanks for responding so fast btw. Im very much a novice.
Thought I’d add my experience recently as a newbie pepper propagator. I’ve been growing Jalapeños from seed since 13 January and was amazed at how well they had germinated and the transplanted seedling were growing; I’d even topped some of the taller ones. However, I started to notice that the new leaves were curling and showing a “poppled” appearance. I tried a few suggestions but nothing “worked”. Recently however I noticed that the relative humidity in my growing room had been consistently decreasing and, when it got down to 37% I decided to investigate the whole “water cycle” thing in plants. I was satisfied that my light and heat levels were “normal” and, having read that vegetative RH levels should be in the 60-70% region in the early stages, reducing to 50-65% as flowering approaches, I took steps to increase my humidity by hanging damp towels and reducing the temperature from 80 to 75 deg F. This has been going on for the last two days and I think I am seeing an improvement already, although that may be wishful thinking 😂. I’m doing some time-lapse video to get a better idea and will report back in due course.
Thanks for sharing. It is definitely dry here in the winter as well, tough to up the humidity in our grow tent, but might have to invest in a small humidifier and see how it helps!
I saw a helpful article at - www.producegrower.com/article/pg0214-mist-fog-propagation-systems/ . Not much use for a grow tent situation BUT helped me to understand the biology here. Because of my high temperatures and low humidity, my plants are losing water, through the leaves, faster than they can take it up through the roots; not helped by over-watering that, as we know, impedes root function. To reduce water loss, the plants are curling the leaves to reduce the evaporative area and try to save the plant; but the leaves suffer. Another negative side effect of this is that, as the leaves curl up and deteriorate, their ability to take in carbon dioxide (through their stomata, under the leaves), needed for photosynthesis (plant growth) is impacted. Simply by hanging up a couple of wet towels, I got my humidity up from 37 to 70% overnight and I’ve even had to back off slightly to avoid over-wetting.
I’ve just rendered a time lapse video from the last couple of days following the increase in humidity and it clearly show a significant uncurling of leaves that were completely folded over onto themselves.
I`m glad I found this channel . This is my first year growing and already had a major setback due to the weather . I currently have 6 types I`m trying to grow this year and hope to add more next year .
I have just found your channel , it is excellent really enjoying the info . I have been growing peppers for 3 years this year I have about 50 plants from 17 different varieties. I have had everything from yellowing, drooping , disease to leaf curling and stunted growth. I am in Kent in the uk so not the hottest . Yet they always come through and I always get a great crop . Chillies are by far the lowest maintenance plants I’ve ever grown . I just love chillis thanks for all your info on caring for them !
Hi sir ... im new yo growing plants ~~ and i have a cayenne pepper plant that just sprouted a few days ago in ky indoor hydroponic system ... and today the long thin sprout leaves are drooping alot. . .. The other plants i grow in this system dont have this problem ... so im wondering of you have any advice please ......
I only had one plant doing this, and it was in the corner, so I'm sure it's edema. Mine are in the water heater closet, so it's tight. I do have a little ventilation, but I think I'm going to simply remake the plywood shelf out of light lattice instead, so there is plenty of air circulation. Thanks for the info!
Yeah, we have a couple hydroponic plants going and have had issues with curling leaves. It seems to depends largely on the variety you are growing. One of our hydro plants has no curling at all, while another variety is very curled - in the same growing condition! Try a gentle fan for a breeze..
@@PepperGeek I do have a fan. The pH looks great the nutrients ppm looks great actually it was a little bit high so I topped off my tank with some distilled water and that brought it down a little bit more manageable level. Here’s hoping
Glad I found this channel. I wonder how much light is needed from my grow lights because now I realize that too much light May actually harm the plants while they grow. I have both white and reddish lights. Both set ups are created to have 16 inches apart in height however I recently noticed some pepper plants have thinned tall and yellowed up. Can I save them or are they done ? Indeed some have been overwatered but I will monitor with a measurement for humidity. Also, possibly I have applied for some too much fish product fertilizer which may have caused some plants to turn yellowish. All seeds germinated well but this stuff requires lots of tender, loving, care. Great channel ! Well done !
I have a plant that "folds" it's leaves up at night, even inside where the temp remains pretty constant. It is an Aji Panca, going on 2 years now! Around 8am, it unfolds and looks pretty normal. One of the most peculiar traits I've seen in a pepper lol. 😀
I am a pepper growing nube and your channel is so helpful. You provide good information with none of the typical pitfalls of a lot of TH-cam presenters. I just ate my first home-grown pepper and I will continue to keep soaking up the brain fertilizer you provide via your videos. Keep up the good work!
I am having the same problem but only with one pepper plant in my garden. Im new at gardening so didnt realize it wasn't supposed to be that way. I noticed its started on another pepper plant today.
Hey, thank you for this video. It is exactly what I was looking for. It appears my jalapeno pepper plants are suffering from edema! ChatGPT was no help. 😂
Unfortunately my garden peppers are all curling since it’s rained for 2 weeks straight! I haven’t had to water since August! This has been a very hard gardening season for the NE. Many diseases, pests, bacteria, and terrible weather!
I love your videos im new to peeper growing and I've tried growing the yucatan white habanero with no success give it a shot it would be cool to learn about the plant thank you for the videos
I don't have grow lights or a green house and starts will just die of damping off by a window, so I put my start pots out in the sun even before they sprout to disinfect the soil and prevent damping off from ever happening. Since I let my starts sprout in strong sunlight, I never have to worry about sun hardening off. I bring them inside at night or when the weather is extremely cold and rainy. I don't have the earliest starts this year. I bought one plant. I have an Instant Pot so this year I started pressure cooking bones and whirling them up in my 600 watt glass Oster and feed the slurry to my plants. You don't need a lot of bone meal so this really works well. One teaspoon dry bone meal for one tomato or pepper plant is what they recommend. Blender slurry is a little harder to measure and separates easily, (so keep it stirred or shaken), but it gets really fine in the blender and sinks into the soil really nice and it's an easy way to process.
My pepper seedlings have like purpleish black spots like the first plat you showed. Is that a sign of overwatering bc i dont water them often. I do it when i notice at least half of the container is dry. Should i be concerned about those spots
We had a colder then normal night on sunday here in south florida that i honestly didnt know was gonna happen. I think some of my pepper seedlings didnt appreciate it cause they curled up there leaves and today i noticed most died off (its pretty hot out today) some of the ones that curled up look like they might make it, hopefully!
Thanks for the informative video! :) Another problem can be wind stress or in combination with lighting, heat and/or low humidity too fast evaporation for the plant to compensate, especially on yet small plants with tiny root systems. I had this occurring recently with my pepper seedlings because I overused a fan while having already pretty dry air around them. Generally speaking: if your leaves are curling upwards, it's most likely to be an environmental problem.
I'm seeing leaf curl on about 10% of my young peppers (sizes ranging from 2" to 6" high are affected). The larger ones are in 5" pots and all pots have good drainage. My current theory is that (1) my indoor LED lighting has gotten a lot stronger over the years, and (2) certain varieties are particularly sensitive to getting too much light -- particularly frutescens and chinense varieties with broad leaves. One of these has had similar leaf curl issues across multiple years. So I'm cutting back a bit on light to see how they fare.
@@garyhawthorne5456 Yes, it worked! I keep looking closely at the ones in the strongest part of the light, and moving any that have curl outwards where it is less bright. This has cured all but a couple of the worst cases. There is still the future problem of getting the most light-sensitive ones outdoors, they may end up having to stay inside until the leaves get on the oak trees. A parallel problem has been inconsistent watering resulting in crispy leaf edges, especially in tomatoes; the tomatoes don't seem to have problems with light intensity indoors but don't seem to like the potting mix I started with. I'm now tracking when I water each size of pot, and weighing the pots to see how much water they need, which is helping both peppers and tomatoes.
My pepper plant was soo beautiful with big green leaves when she started flowering her new leaves became smaller and curling up. Have of the plant looks healthy and the new growth looks small and curly although the pepper are looking ok. What do u recommend?
Great video and information! I have a Habanada plant indoors right now and all the leaves seem to be reaching and have bubbly texture, more extreme than any you showed so I'm still not sure what it's trying to tell me. I guess I'll start with one fix at a time until it looks happier!
There was nothing on the pests that cause curling? I have young plants of padron peppers and from the very beginning their leaves have been curling and deformed. I suspect mites/aphids although I do not see many when I inspect
Pests will definitely cause curling, I’d suggest using a camera to take some quality pictures to try to get a better look. They usually feed from the newer, small foliage so look there. Aphids should be big enough to see, but mites, thrips, even white flies can be hard to see when they’re young
I will do some treatment with neem oil and restart some other seeds.. the plants are doing their best to grow but leaves really struggling. Thank you (perhaps few aphids and more the other creatures you mentioned as very little to see)
In the 1st example, some of the leaves were a purplish black color, is that a sign of overwatering? I ask this because I have that on a couple of my seedlings. The other seedlings in the same tray seem fine.
I have 2 trinidad scorpion plants in 2 gallon pots and the top leaves are curling under. the plants are about 18" tall and just starting to flower. I water 2x per week with some liquid fertilizer mixed in. The are on a window sill with decent sun. Any idea what could cause the under curling? Thanks
Hi there! Should I prune my pepper plants? I have 5 habanero plants growing in a small kiddie pool, and they are close together. Should I cut off the lower leaves? Should I prune as I do my tomatoes?
You don't have to prune, just let them grow, especially if they are in their final planting location! Different than tomatoes, no sucker shoots, but we do bottom prune a bit to keep leaves out of the soil.
Please help I have a very healthy looking outdoor pepper plant .the leaves look amazing but they are drooping and slightly bending up around the edges what does this mean ? I regularly water once a day on direct sunlight days usually around lunch time if it rains I won’t water for an entire day after . The plants leaves don’t reach up but sag down all leaves are very dark green and no sunburning yet my plant isn’t reaching up how do I fix this ? I tried not watering for a whole sunny day with no changes should I wait longer to water ? Or
Why my scarlet pepper plants young growing leaves become minute edges curled brittled leaves without bloombuds. Is night time temperature matters or day hot weather.
Leaves on top only tacoing in. But light isn't on veg settings, much lower par/ppfd now, heat variably at 75-76 humidity been issue, it's hard to get above 57% in there.. help?
Yikes - we'll be posting a video about aphids and other pests soon...for these, we use a diluted neem oil spray or diatomaceous earth. You can also deploy some beneficial insects (ladybugs) and/or predatory mites to eat some of the infestation for you
Since the sun is so much stronger than )pretty much) and grow light then why do the leaves not curl from the sun. Are you sure the reason is not very low humidity so close to the grow light. (just a thought) Love the videos and info.
My seedlings first leaves pointed up like preying hands, been that way for 2 weeks now. I think they are dead... but there are tiny hearts of new growth nodes, they just aren't doing anything. I suspect as I originally hot air heated the space that the humidity was way too low, like 20-30% and it dried out the seedling leaves. Maybe they don't have enough energy to pop that new growth. They have limited time as I'm germinating more, so in a few days they will need to come indoors out of the heated propagator.
Hi guys some of my leaves are curling down and I have burn marks on the tips of some leaves and spotted burn marks on others ??? They are established Thai chilli plants and kept inside any help would be amazing
Hm, it could be light burn, or maybe nutrient burn (if you're using too much inorganic/water soluble fertilizer). It could also just be edema, we see a lot of edema on indoor C. annuum varieties. Another possibility is just natural leaf death - lower leaves will die off first as they are oldest.
Have you seen laves looking darker than normal? almost a reddish hue? They are fresh sprouts, only have their original two leaves that they poked out of the soil with.
I am so unbelievably impatient. If I harden off a plant with any success it's a sheer accident. I mostly throw them to the wild when they have their first set of leaves and say good luck sister. Will they ever develop after these scalding leaf curl issues or are they goners?
The only pepper plant that ever had leaf curl is the Buena Mulata. Grown exactly the same as many other varieties. All grown in hydroponic, all under spider farmer lights
Oh my.. Seems I'm doing everything wrong haha.. They are still growing several chillies though. But now that you said it, i do think I've noticed the oedema mainly on the cayenne. I heard oedema can be caused by overwatering, so I started giving less and less water, until I noticed leaves were drooping a lot, turning yellow and falling off. I switched to watering more but only every other day, because I've been told the roots also need some chance to get some air to prevent rotting. But now I'm seeing signs of both overwatering (oedema and curl) and underwatering (drooping leaves that start looking much better after giving some water even if just a little bit).. Maybe they are too close to the growlights so that the temperature is high which makes them dry out faster, and the lack of airflow is causing the oedema, getting me to think of overwatering, causing me to give less water, which causes them to dry out too much.. Does that make sense?
What bulbs do you suggest are the best for the indoor peppers. I have a few different ones I can use. T12 Aquarium/plant, or T8 lumen 2600 kelvin 6500, or lumen 4200 kelvin 5000. Thank you🪴
I’d recommend using one lower color temperature and one higher if possible. So the 4200 and the 6500 on the same light would be decent. Though if you’re just using to grow seedlings the higher color temp will be fine to get them started and ready to move outside
I have a potted ghost pepper adolescent plant with leaves that are curling outward like a hat. Is there a reason for that? I have a lot of trees on my property and it only gets around 5 hours of direct sun per day. I also move it indoors at night.
Hi....i am from canada.i need your help.i have indoor baby naga chilly plant its not growing after 3leaves come what should i do can you tell me please 😔
i grow my peppers outside and the only leaf curling i see is from too little calcium. i don't know about indoor growing but i do start my seeds indoors and never get curled leaves. hardening off has nothing to do with sunlight intensity. it is to acclimate the plants to the shifting of temperatures and handling the wind. once the temp get around 60 or so i put my plants outside and will move them back in at night for a few days. after that they stay outside unless temps get too low. anything above 40 and they stay outside.
Hardening off has to do with light - UV radiation is not something you get from indoor grow lights. If you have any factual evidence to the contrary we'd love to read and learn about it!
I'm hoping someone here might be able to answer a quick question. I've recently began to set up a grow room for my peppers but after moving them to the new area, I've noticed all sorts of issues! Leaves curling under. Some almost look like they have burn spots. Strange bubble looking things on some leaves. And some leaves straight up drying out and falling off. I have done everything from moving them much further from the light (600w full spectrum violet), to moving them from the area entirely. Is there something else that might cause these symptoms?
That sounds like a pretty powerful light. When you say full spectrum violet I'm guessing you mean it has UV spectrum light? From what Ive heard UV is pretty harsh on the plants and should be used carefully in small amounts. You will definitely want to measure the light coming off or at least try and get a good calculation for whatever distance and power you are running at. You might need to add C02 the room to get the most out of that light. Also you will want to track the VPD so you can figure out what the plant wants. Getting a minder for the room would be helpful also.
Why do my pepper seedlings (seed leaves only) turn their seed leaves straight upward like praying hands? Yellow bell peppers. Are they seeking more light?
This happens naturally at night time, so around the time the sun is going down or your grow lights shut off, many types will fold up for the dark hours
I live in a tropical country. My chilly plant has set at the verenda. Having sun light about 9 hours.so if I don't water it at morning its dried up. But it also curling up at the top and still not flowering. What should I do? What is the average time I should provide light to it.?
@@PepperGeek wow thank you for responding. Just found you guys and ive been watching all of your videos and have found them really helpful. Thank you. I will be asking for your book for my birthday 🙂
I live in Central Alabama in zone 8B I think. We just had the Cyclone hurricane Claudette come through and dumped a bunch of rain (5+in) on us. I moved my pepper buckets from the grass in my garden to concrete around my pool because my leaves started curling, i believe they were getting too much water sitting in the grass. We are expecting two more days of rain. So is there anything I can do short of bringing them all into the house cuz there are 30 plus plants to prevent further Leaf curl?
I would just ensure they have good drainage (and it sounds like you already have). Make sure the water can escape the buckets. If you have any that you are particularly attached to, maybe try bringing them under some sort of cover to avoid additional watering through the storm. Good luck and be safe!
@@PepperGeek we have not had the big dumping of rain that we expected and the peppers are perking up I think the wind might have snapped one of them but I hope it bounces back. I do have a beautiful California Reaper out there that I did bring under the patio just in case we get more rain
Yes it is normal for some types. It can also be caused by a nutrient issue, but more likely just natural anthocyanin activating from light. If it starts to look unhealthy, you may want to investigate further
You said calcium issue could be a deficiency or could be the plant having problems using calcium. Deficiency is obvious but what causes trouble using calcium and how do you resolve that? Appreciate the thoroughness of the information otherwise.
I have a Jiffy seed starting dome with a water reservoir and wicking mat, so there is always water in the reservoir. I do take the dome off when the seeds have sprouted. Does this system with the constant water wicking cause this issue? Should I stop using these Jiffy seed starting kits?
It might be fine as long as you provide enough aeration, watch for signs of overwatering stress and maybe try removing a tray and allowing it to dry somewhat between watering
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Dear sir ....
my cayenne sprout leaves now have big time drooping sprout leaves ....
Its an indoor hydroponic ( in biochar sponge baskets) system.
Do i keep it up out of the water sometimes ?
Most of the plants dont mind the water ~~~
but i do notice sage likes a break from the constant watering from below ...
and IM GUESSING CAYENNE NEEDS A LESS WATERED 'SOIL' TOO YOU SAY ??!?? ......__________.
The algorithm knows I planted peppers a month early.
Even as a grower of almost a decade it's nice to find a channel that can still open my eyes and teach this old dog new tricks. Thank you for the hard work and helping others gain valuable information. The pepper growing community is awesome, it brings together people from all walks of life and from all over the planet. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the kind words. It’s a joy to be a part of the pepper growing community!
Same here
My Roma under lights looked horrible. Checked out pic online and they had edema. Our Bell peppers in the same location and conditions were not affected. Zone 6b. We puts Roma outside and are lush. I think Temp swings and down pours and high winds the blooms dropped. Grrrrr. New blooms on Roma and on one bell.
You have been so helpful. Last year we had a great production of Bell peppers.
Thank you.
This page is way underrated you guys have helps me keep my ghost pepper plant alive when I didn't know why it was getting stressed
So happy to hear that :) Keep it up!
You videos have been so helpful this year as I have had numerous weird issues with my peppers that I normally don't. Thank you so much for all the knowledge!
Wow your explanation is thorough and easy to understand. Now I know my pepper plant is curled up due to getting sunburn. Thx
The second thing is exactly what happened to my indoor seedling. Glad to know it's not disease
That article on watering is exceptional.
After 4 years of starting seeds in a Southeast(best I've got) facing window I finally got myself a really nice light. Really excited to have less leggy plants this year.
Mine role from almost birth.. UT was planted outside and it curls as it grows. I live in Florida so I do it outdoors.. It in a good size container and it's in the sun... I think it's calcium or lime.
I grow mine in balcony hangers, from seed, so outdoors. This is in Taiwan where we seldom get cold temperatures. The issue for me is not getting enough sunlight, do to shade from nearby buildings. Over time, I do get a good amount of peppers but I'm sure I'd get more if there was more sunlight. And I have realized I have to be careful not to over-water, thanks.
Alrighty. I see that there are a variety of things going on with my pepper plants and now I know how to remedy them or avoid them in the future.
Bought sugar rush peach seeds. Started in grow cup and just put in the big pot. I think I overwatered because everything is curled up but it looks most like the ones shown with too much light. I can't see this being it though since I started them under sunlight, moved them around since germinated, and that never seemed an issue. People said it's easy on the sites that sell the seeds but it's not easy growing these at all.
I really liked your tutorial on pepper plants and some of the common problems you can encouter , growing them .
Im running 70watt lights. Had them at the recommend 19 inches. Still had leaf burn and curl. Raised it to 23 inches, and cut my time from 16hrs to 12hrs. Fixed the problem.
Right, young plants are definitely more vulnerable
@@PepperGeek Ok, I got a question. I've been hearing about the "Aji Charapita" pepper selling for thousands of dollars per pound. Some say like $11,000. Is there any truth to this?? Because seeds are extremely hard to come by, but after a very long search I found some. Was wondering how legit those prices are because it seems like absolute bullcrap.
I certainly wouldn’t pay it! That seems to be a false claim, but I don’t have any proof either way. We have seeds and will be growing a plant this year. I think since they are so small, growing a pound of pods would take a few plants, though they are apparently pretty prolific. Good luck selling pods for that price 😂
@@PepperGeek Oh no I wasn't planning on selling pods for that price. But if you Google it pretty much every website claims its like the holy grail of peppers. I figured it was some BS. I honestly just want to eat them, lol. Thanks for responding so fast btw. Im very much a novice.
Thought I’d add my experience recently as a newbie pepper propagator.
I’ve been growing Jalapeños from seed since 13 January and was amazed at how well they had germinated and the transplanted seedling were growing; I’d even topped some of the taller ones.
However, I started to notice that the new leaves were curling and showing a “poppled” appearance. I tried a few suggestions but nothing “worked”.
Recently however I noticed that the relative humidity in my growing room had been consistently decreasing and, when it got down to 37% I decided to investigate the whole “water cycle” thing in plants.
I was satisfied that my light and heat levels were “normal” and, having read that vegetative RH levels should be in the 60-70% region in the early stages, reducing to 50-65% as flowering approaches, I took steps to increase my humidity by hanging damp towels and reducing the temperature from 80 to 75 deg F.
This has been going on for the last two days and I think I am seeing an improvement already, although that may be wishful thinking 😂. I’m doing some time-lapse video to get a better idea and will report back in due course.
Thanks for sharing. It is definitely dry here in the winter as well, tough to up the humidity in our grow tent, but might have to invest in a small humidifier and see how it helps!
I saw a helpful article at - www.producegrower.com/article/pg0214-mist-fog-propagation-systems/ . Not much use for a grow tent situation BUT helped me to understand the biology here.
Because of my high temperatures and low humidity, my plants are losing water, through the leaves, faster than they can take it up through the roots; not helped by over-watering that, as we know, impedes root function.
To reduce water loss, the plants are curling the leaves to reduce the evaporative area and try to save the plant; but the leaves suffer.
Another negative side effect of this is that, as the leaves curl up and deteriorate, their ability to take in carbon dioxide (through their stomata, under the leaves), needed for photosynthesis (plant growth) is impacted.
Simply by hanging up a couple of wet towels, I got my humidity up from 37 to 70% overnight and I’ve even had to back off slightly to avoid over-wetting.
I’ve just rendered a time lapse video from the last couple of days following the increase in humidity and it clearly show a significant uncurling of leaves that were completely folded over onto themselves.
I`m glad I found this channel . This is my first year growing and already had a major setback due to the weather . I currently have 6 types I`m trying to grow this year and hope to add more next year .
I have just found your channel , it is excellent really enjoying the info . I have been growing peppers for 3 years this year I have about 50 plants from 17 different varieties. I have had everything from yellowing, drooping , disease to leaf curling and stunted growth.
I am in Kent in the uk so not the hottest . Yet they always come through and I always get a great crop . Chillies are by far the lowest maintenance plants I’ve ever grown . I just love chillis thanks for all your info on caring for them !
Hi sir ... im new yo growing plants ~~
and i have a cayenne pepper plant that just sprouted a few days ago in ky indoor hydroponic system ... and today the long thin sprout leaves are drooping alot. .
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The other plants i grow in this system dont have this problem ... so im wondering of you have any advice please ......
Wow, you really are full of a ton of pepper plant information. I learned something new out of every video. Thank you
i always grew my seedling at a sunny window, never had a problem
I only had one plant doing this, and it was in the corner, so I'm sure it's edema. Mine are in the water heater closet, so it's tight. I do have a little ventilation, but I think I'm going to simply remake the plywood shelf out of light lattice instead, so there is plenty of air circulation. Thanks for the info!
Also check for aphids under leaves if leaves are "tacoing" I had this issue an upon further inspection it was an aphid infestation
Edema! That's what I've been seeing! Thank you for solving the mystery for me! 👍🌶😋
Thank you so much... this was SO helpful for me. First time seed starter and I was able ready to cry... pepper plants must have edema
I'm glad we could help! Edema is not a big deal - usually clears up once the plants go outside.
Great video! I've noticed leaf curl on a couple of my bush bean plants in containers. I'll cut back on watering. Thanks!
Thanks, and glad to help!
Thank you! I've identified my problem thanks to this video!
This is great. I just wish there was a segment on hydroponic peppers... cant really "overwater" when they are in water.
Yeah, we have a couple hydroponic plants going and have had issues with curling leaves. It seems to depends largely on the variety you are growing. One of our hydro plants has no curling at all, while another variety is very curled - in the same growing condition! Try a gentle fan for a breeze..
@@PepperGeek I do have a fan. The pH looks great the nutrients ppm looks great actually it was a little bit high so I topped off my tank with some distilled water and that brought it down a little bit more manageable level. Here’s hoping
Looks like he posted a video on that the day before this one.
Hey you. I was scrolling down to see if anyone mentioned hydro peppers and saw your comment. LOL!
@@littletechgirl2 haha so funny! 🥰🥰
Glad I found this channel.
I wonder how much light is needed from my grow lights because now I realize that too much light May actually harm the plants while they grow. I have both white and reddish lights. Both set ups are created to have 16 inches apart in height however I recently noticed some pepper plants have thinned tall and yellowed up.
Can I save them or are they done ?
Indeed some have been overwatered but I will monitor with a measurement for humidity.
Also, possibly I have applied for some too much fish product fertilizer which may have caused some plants to turn yellowish.
All seeds germinated well but this stuff requires lots of tender, loving, care.
Great channel !
Well done !
Cheers Brotherman. Thanks and hope I have found the solution to my pepper problems
Cheers, hope we have helped
I have a plant that "folds" it's leaves up at night, even inside where the temp remains pretty constant. It is an Aji Panca, going on 2 years now! Around 8am, it unfolds and looks pretty normal. One of the most peculiar traits I've seen in a pepper lol. 😀
Many of our plants do the same, we have seen it happen when we film timelapses.
Thank you for the video! I’m an over watering noob trying to do potted Fresno peppers.
Awesome! We have a Fresno plant as well, delicious peppers with a bit more kick than jalapeños 🤌🏻
Thank you for sharing this info and tips in growing pepper.
This is a really informative video. Love all your content!
Thanks so much Rob! Right back at you :)
Hello Rob! 🌶🌶🌶
I am a pepper growing nube and your channel is so helpful. You provide good information with none of the typical pitfalls of a lot of TH-cam presenters. I just ate my first home-grown pepper and I will continue to keep soaking up the brain fertilizer you provide via your videos. Keep up the good work!
This video is fantastic! Great information, provided in an easy to understand format.👍🏽
I am having the same problem but only with one pepper plant in my garden. Im new at gardening so didnt realize it wasn't supposed to be that way. I noticed its started on another pepper plant today.
Hey, thank you for this video. It is exactly what I was looking for. It appears my jalapeno pepper plants are suffering from edema! ChatGPT was no help. 😂
Lol. My pepper has the light pretty much on on top of it. And the edema as well. Thank you.
This is helpful ! A lot 😁 Thanks peppergeek for sharing this 😀
Glad it was helpful!
Unfortunately my garden peppers are all curling since it’s rained for 2 weeks straight! I haven’t had to water since August! This has been a very hard gardening season for the NE. Many diseases, pests, bacteria, and terrible weather!
I love your videos im new to peeper growing and I've tried growing the yucatan white habanero with no success give it a shot it would be cool to learn about the plant thank you for the videos
I don't have grow lights or a green house and starts will just die of damping off by a window, so I put my start pots out in the sun even before they sprout to disinfect the soil and prevent damping off from ever happening. Since I let my starts sprout in strong sunlight, I never have to worry about sun hardening off. I bring them inside at night or when the weather is extremely cold and rainy. I don't have the earliest starts this year. I bought one plant.
I have an Instant Pot so this year I started pressure cooking bones and whirling them up in my 600 watt glass Oster and feed the slurry to my plants. You don't need a lot of bone meal so this really works well. One teaspoon dry bone meal for one tomato or pepper plant is what they recommend. Blender slurry is a little harder to measure and separates easily, (so keep it stirred or shaken), but it gets really fine in the blender and sinks into the soil really nice and it's an easy way to process.
My pepper seedlings have like purpleish black spots like the first plat you showed. Is that a sign of overwatering bc i dont water them often. I do it when i notice at least half of the container is dry. Should i be concerned about those spots
Also if the above ground growth outpaces the roots the roots can’t keep up with photosynthesis and is trying to slow the rate of
We had a colder then normal night on sunday here in south florida that i honestly didnt know was gonna happen. I think some of my pepper seedlings didnt appreciate it cause they curled up there leaves and today i noticed most died off (its pretty hot out today) some of the ones that curled up look like they might make it, hopefully!
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Thanks for the informative video! :)
Another problem can be wind stress or in combination with lighting, heat and/or low humidity too fast evaporation for the plant to compensate, especially on yet small plants with tiny root systems. I had this occurring recently with my pepper seedlings because I overused a fan while having already pretty dry air around them.
Generally speaking: if your leaves are curling upwards, it's most likely to be an environmental problem.
Thanks for sharing! It all becomes a lot easier when you can get the plants outside
I'm seeing leaf curl on about 10% of my young peppers (sizes ranging from 2" to 6" high are affected). The larger ones are in 5" pots and all pots have good drainage. My current theory is that (1) my indoor LED lighting has gotten a lot stronger over the years, and (2) certain varieties are particularly sensitive to getting too much light -- particularly frutescens and chinense varieties with broad leaves. One of these has had similar leaf curl issues across multiple years. So I'm cutting back a bit on light to see how they fare.
Did it help?
@@garyhawthorne5456 Yes, it worked! I keep looking closely at the ones in the strongest part of the light, and moving any that have curl outwards where it is less bright. This has cured all but a couple of the worst cases. There is still the future problem of getting the most light-sensitive ones outdoors, they may end up having to stay inside until the leaves get on the oak trees.
A parallel problem has been inconsistent watering resulting in crispy leaf edges, especially in tomatoes; the tomatoes don't seem to have problems with light intensity indoors but don't seem to like the potting mix I started with. I'm now tracking when I water each size of pot, and weighing the pots to see how much water they need, which is helping both peppers and tomatoes.
@@davidniemi6553 Thanks all my Pepper's and tomato plants are doing Great new green thump here I learning
Some of the best pepper 🌶 tips ever!
Thanks so much fellow pepper geek!
Thanks! this solved my capsicum problem :)
Glad to help!
My pepper plant was soo beautiful with big green leaves when she started flowering her new leaves became smaller and curling up. Have of the plant looks healthy and the new growth looks small and curly although the pepper are looking ok. What do u recommend?
Great video and information! I have a Habanada plant indoors right now and all the leaves seem to be reaching and have bubbly texture, more extreme than any you showed so I'm still not sure what it's trying to tell me. I guess I'll start with one fix at a time until it looks happier!
I am happy that I found your channel. This video is awesome 👍
Thanks, and welcome!
Excellent videos, super clear and useful, many thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
There was nothing on the pests that cause curling?
I have young plants of padron peppers and from the very beginning their leaves have been curling and deformed. I suspect mites/aphids although I do not see many when I inspect
Pests will definitely cause curling, I’d suggest using a camera to take some quality pictures to try to get a better look. They usually feed from the newer, small foliage so look there. Aphids should be big enough to see, but mites, thrips, even white flies can be hard to see when they’re young
I will do some treatment with neem oil and restart some other seeds.. the plants are doing their best to grow but leaves really struggling. Thank you (perhaps few aphids and more the other creatures you mentioned as very little to see)
In the 1st example, some of the leaves were a purplish black color, is that a sign of overwatering? I ask this because I have that on a couple of my seedlings. The other seedlings in the same tray seem fine.
Thanks for information. I was having the same issues with the seedings.
I luv these gardeening videos
I have 2 trinidad scorpion plants in 2 gallon pots and the top leaves are curling under. the plants are about 18" tall and just starting to flower. I water 2x per week with some liquid fertilizer mixed in. The are on a window sill with decent sun. Any idea what could cause the under curling? Thanks
Hi there! Should I prune my pepper plants? I have 5 habanero plants growing in a small kiddie pool, and they are close together. Should I cut off the lower leaves? Should I prune as I do my tomatoes?
You don't have to prune, just let them grow, especially if they are in their final planting location! Different than tomatoes, no sucker shoots, but we do bottom prune a bit to keep leaves out of the soil.
I appreciate your patience.
Leaf curl can also be a sign of fungus that is inside the leaves. It can be treated with a copper based liquid spray.
Great info. Looks like I shouldn’t have watered to combat rolled up leaves. Oops.
Nice video, very clear and helpful.
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Please help I have a very healthy looking outdoor pepper plant .the leaves look amazing but they are drooping and slightly bending up around the edges what does this mean ?
I regularly water once a day on direct sunlight days usually around lunch time if it rains I won’t water for an entire day after . The plants leaves don’t reach up but sag down all leaves are very dark green and no sunburning yet my plant isn’t reaching up how do I fix this ? I tried not watering for a whole sunny day with no changes should I wait longer to water ? Or
Why my scarlet pepper plants young growing leaves become minute edges curled brittled leaves without bloombuds. Is night time temperature matters or day hot weather.
Leaves on top only tacoing in. But light isn't on veg settings, much lower par/ppfd now, heat variably at 75-76 humidity been issue, it's hard to get above 57% in there.. help?
You are spot on!!! Love this video!!
Thanks for the info! What is the best remedy to get rid of mites? Green bugs and white bugs are all over my plants.
Yikes - we'll be posting a video about aphids and other pests soon...for these, we use a diluted neem oil spray or diatomaceous earth. You can also deploy some beneficial insects (ladybugs) and/or predatory mites to eat some of the infestation for you
Thanks for sharing this!
Our pleasure, thanks for stopping by Peter :)
Since the sun is so much stronger than )pretty much) and grow light then why do the leaves not curl from the sun. Are you sure the reason is not very low humidity so close to the grow light. (just a thought) Love the videos and info.
Thank u because my plant leaves were curved in
Would Gypsum also be ok to use with peppers
My seedlings first leaves pointed up like preying hands, been that way for 2 weeks now. I think they are dead... but there are tiny hearts of new growth nodes, they just aren't doing anything. I suspect as I originally hot air heated the space that the humidity was way too low, like 20-30% and it dried out the seedling leaves. Maybe they don't have enough energy to pop that new growth. They have limited time as I'm germinating more, so in a few days they will need to come indoors out of the heated propagator.
You're right
Praying leaves is usually too much light or serious heat/dryness in the air.
Look up VPD recommendations for whatever you are growing
Great channel dude
Hi guys some of my leaves are curling down and I have burn marks on the tips of some leaves and spotted burn marks on others ??? They are established Thai chilli plants and kept inside any help would be amazing
Hm, it could be light burn, or maybe nutrient burn (if you're using too much inorganic/water soluble fertilizer). It could also just be edema, we see a lot of edema on indoor C. annuum varieties. Another possibility is just natural leaf death - lower leaves will die off first as they are oldest.
Have you seen laves looking darker than normal? almost a reddish hue? They are fresh sprouts, only have their original two leaves that they poked out of the soil with.
I am so unbelievably impatient. If I harden off a plant with any success it's a sheer accident. I mostly throw them to the wild when they have their first set of leaves and say good luck sister. Will they ever develop after these scalding leaf curl issues or are they goners?
The only pepper plant that ever had leaf curl is the Buena Mulata. Grown exactly the same as many other varieties. All grown in hydroponic, all under spider farmer lights
Yes, I've noticed C. annuum varieties get the curl indoors more easily than C. chinense. Especially in hydro
Oh my.. Seems I'm doing everything wrong haha.. They are still growing several chillies though. But now that you said it, i do think I've noticed the oedema mainly on the cayenne. I heard oedema can be caused by overwatering, so I started giving less and less water, until I noticed leaves were drooping a lot, turning yellow and falling off. I switched to watering more but only every other day, because I've been told the roots also need some chance to get some air to prevent rotting. But now I'm seeing signs of both overwatering (oedema and curl) and underwatering (drooping leaves that start looking much better after giving some water even if just a little bit).. Maybe they are too close to the growlights so that the temperature is high which makes them dry out faster, and the lack of airflow is causing the oedema, getting me to think of overwatering, causing me to give less water, which causes them to dry out too much.. Does that make sense?
What bulbs do you suggest are the best for the indoor peppers. I have a few different ones I can use. T12 Aquarium/plant, or T8 lumen 2600 kelvin 6500, or lumen 4200 kelvin 5000. Thank you🪴
I’d recommend using one lower color temperature and one higher if possible. So the 4200 and the 6500 on the same light would be decent. Though if you’re just using to grow seedlings the higher color temp will be fine to get them started and ready to move outside
Good video I have one that needs attention. Perfect timing
I have a potted ghost pepper adolescent plant with leaves that are curling outward like a hat. Is there a reason for that? I have a lot of trees on my property and it only gets around 5 hours of direct sun per day. I also move it indoors at night.
Hi....i am from canada.i need your help.i have indoor baby naga chilly plant its not growing after 3leaves come what should i do can you tell me please 😔
so I do not see any bugs or pests and still get leaf curl and holes eaten in middle of pepper leaves! How to stop them?
i grow my peppers outside and the only leaf curling i see is from too little calcium. i don't know about indoor growing but i do start my seeds indoors and never get curled leaves.
hardening off has nothing to do with sunlight intensity. it is to acclimate the plants to the shifting of temperatures and handling the wind. once the temp get around 60 or so i put my plants outside and will move them back in at night for a few days. after that they stay outside unless temps get too low. anything above 40 and they stay outside.
Hardening off has to do with light - UV radiation is not something you get from indoor grow lights. If you have any factual evidence to the contrary we'd love to read and learn about it!
I'm hoping someone here might be able to answer a quick question. I've recently began to set up a grow room for my peppers but after moving them to the new area, I've noticed all sorts of issues! Leaves curling under. Some almost look like they have burn spots. Strange bubble looking things on some leaves. And some leaves straight up drying out and falling off. I have done everything from moving them much further from the light (600w full spectrum violet), to moving them from the area entirely. Is there something else that might cause these symptoms?
That sounds like a pretty powerful light. When you say full spectrum violet I'm guessing you mean it has UV spectrum light? From what Ive heard UV is pretty harsh on the plants and should be used carefully in small amounts. You will definitely want to measure the light coming off or at least try and get a good calculation for whatever distance and power you are running at. You might need to add C02 the room to get the most out of that light. Also you will want to track the VPD so you can figure out what the plant wants. Getting a minder for the room would be helpful also.
Why do my pepper seedlings (seed leaves only) turn their seed leaves straight upward like praying hands? Yellow bell peppers. Are they seeking more light?
This happens naturally at night time, so around the time the sun is going down or your grow lights shut off, many types will fold up for the dark hours
what about humidity? will peppers curl if they lack humifty? all of my machu pichu chillis are curling regardless of light or watering
Fenomenal content! Thank you!
Really good information. Thanks for that.
I live in a tropical country. My chilly plant has set at the verenda. Having sun light about 9 hours.so if I don't water it at morning its dried up. But it also curling up at the top and still not flowering.
What should I do?
What is the average time I should provide light to it.?
Thanks very professional presentation
My sugar rush peach peppers are pointing upwards even though they are outdoors, do some just do that?
Yes most start off point up and eventually droop down when they grow larger
@@PepperGeek wow thank you for responding. Just found you guys and ive been watching all of your videos and have found them really helpful. Thank you. I will be asking for your book for my birthday 🙂
I have a purple bhut wrecker that has blossoms but all my new leaves on top are curling upwards like tacos. Can you please help me ?
I live in Central Alabama in zone 8B I think. We just had the Cyclone hurricane Claudette come through and dumped a bunch of rain (5+in) on us. I moved my pepper buckets from the grass in my garden to concrete around my pool because my leaves started curling, i believe they were getting too much water sitting in the grass. We are expecting two more days of rain. So is there anything I can do short of bringing them all into the house cuz there are 30 plus plants to prevent further Leaf curl?
I would just ensure they have good drainage (and it sounds like you already have). Make sure the water can escape the buckets. If you have any that you are particularly attached to, maybe try bringing them under some sort of cover to avoid additional watering through the storm. Good luck and be safe!
@@PepperGeek we have not had the big dumping of rain that we expected and the peppers are perking up I think the wind might have snapped one of them but I hope it bounces back. I do have a beautiful California Reaper out there that I did bring under the patio just in case we get more rain
Some of my plants have some black leaves like yours at the 1:00 mark, is that normal for some types of peppers?
Yes it is normal for some types. It can also be caused by a nutrient issue, but more likely just natural anthocyanin activating from light. If it starts to look unhealthy, you may want to investigate further
You said calcium issue could be a deficiency or could be the plant having problems using calcium. Deficiency is obvious but what causes trouble using calcium and how do you resolve that?
Appreciate the thoroughness of the information otherwise.
Hi, I have a question, why the pepper flower bud is dropping off to the ground? Does this related to over watering ?
How about leaves where the edge curl downwards instead of up?
I have a Jiffy seed starting dome with a water reservoir and wicking mat, so there is always water in the reservoir. I do take the dome off when the seeds have sprouted. Does this system with the constant water wicking cause this issue? Should I stop using these Jiffy seed starting kits?
It might be fine as long as you provide enough aeration, watch for signs of overwatering stress and maybe try removing a tray and allowing it to dry somewhat between watering