Great video and patience for working in such a confined space. Gives me the confidence to tackle my own pump replacement although it involves dismantling a few kitchen wall units for access. 🤨
Welcome back geek man, thought we had lost you. thanks for taking the time to do this, personally i prefer to partially drain rather than trust to luck with a snatch and go, i find it preferable to spend a bit of time draining and filling rather than cleaning. thanks again ollie.
I know what you mean. All my career I have been a stack them high and sell them cheap type engineer. I still drain things but I weigh up every situation before I start. :-)
This is the best practical mantainance video I have ever watched..and I have watched a lot...this is real life plumbing... problem after problem! And then solved 👍 well done that man.
You are a much braver man than me ,I’d have isolated the tank on the ballofix and drained a couple of gallons of water out but I’m old and my heart is not as strong as it was .
Well done you! Amongst other internet tasks I do all the TH-cam research for my careers boiler jobs. Gas safe doesn't mean good advice isn't sometimes very helpful! I'm homebound so have plenty of time to get my teeth into checking out what is available on different jobs and have found you to be the most reliable, knowledgeable guy posting help! Thanks and keep up the good work!
Welcome back Ollie. Another fantastic video. Personally I prefer the boiler fault finding, but always learn something from your vids. So a big thank you. Very much appreciated
Good to see you back, always enjoy your videos. I got called out once found a burnt out pump and no water in the pipes! Found half a dead mouse binging up the f&e pipe. Brings do work!🤣
I once had to bung the cold water tank outlet when a builder skill sawed through the Bath pipe. No idea what made her think of it, but my wife gave me a bag of Carrots, one of them fitted well enough to work as a bung - genius! Not suggesting you keep carrots on the Van, but they saved our Kitchen ceiling.
Good Video - I used some Wago connectors for the Mid Valve connection as to opposed to a terminal block, I believe also you can get a Regin 5 way plug /connector / socket for the connection.
Did a pump change recently as a favour for family, bought new valves , one of which was faulty, and those rubber valve washers wouldn't seal, luckily I had a couple of fibre ones with me, then it air locked when refilling, quick change turned into 3 hours and trying to find a pump valve on a Sunday Afternoon, such fun 😠
Thanks for that Ollie. 1st time i’ve seen a cistern bunged. Have only changed 1 pump so far and had to get a junior hacksaw on the big nuts as they were seized and had about as much space as you did.
Nice vid as usual. I find using a thick rubble bag is good to catch water in situations where space is tight. I normally turn the pump head round to help it with the self vent inside it :)
Get a magnet on that H I'd put money on that being why it's pumping over. I have those Regin plugs too much better than the Drayton ones imo. I often use the end of the plug to cap the vent and those Regin 5 pin plugs are a dream for awkward wiring. Great video 👍🏽
Welcome back mate , missed your videos , you are a top engineer, shame your doing more wiring , I like your repair videos like on the biassi I used to own
Great video 👍 , just fitted a similar pump today and I'm sure the instructions , say the terminal box , should not have the cable gland facing upwards.
Good vid. My tip is when bunging I always isolate the ball valve by tying it up or isolation valve. That way if the bungs airlock goes and the gurgle starts it doesn't refill and you can get back up and do the bungs again.
HeatingGeek always use a 5 way connector, can’t always get into the wiring centre. Even if you can a cable can fall out that you don’t notice making you fault find all over again. Worth the 4 quid for speed alone
Top tip if you ever come across pump valve union stuck which is common as us plumbers know.. get hammer drill with small tungsten tip bit and use on hammer only to push around it never fails.. done loads over the years...
Great Video. Rule of thumb seems harder the job the less space to do it in 😲. Any thoughts on rubber or fibre washers? Only ask as rubber washers have disintegrated after 7 years and started leaking
Very good vid showing the probs we guys come across, if the 3 point valve was a easy change would you have changed with out draining the system? Cheers.
On the Alpha pumps, don’t you need to undo the hex bolts and turn the head the right way up? I only ask because I actually read the booklet you get with the pump. That was a red pump so not sure if it’s different.
Sham 69: Another great vid Ollie. I will donate £50.00 to a charity of your choice if you let your hair grow for 6 months. Come on boys n girls this guy does a lot for us Engineers and all he's got to do is let his hair grow. Let us target 1K he won't be able to say no.
The worst pump I was asked to do had been installed behind an oil boiler(they weigh a ton). I had to take the oil boiler out to get at it. I changed the piping so the pump was accessible in future. I sometimes wonder about some of the people that install some systems.
That doesn't surprise me. I had a pump under a floor between the ceiling (below) and the floorboards. I just said no. I don't need the hassle. The customer was a dick so I didn't feel bad refusing to do it. He sued the insurance company when the next contractor left a yellow patch on the ceiling. The contractor had made him sign a waiver :-) All good.
Hi, great video, where did you learn your trade? Was it a year’s course and then out into the field? I’m watching your vids trying to get a understanding of your trade, hoping to get onto a course real soon, cheers
@Jonny Mosquito Strawman at Large what a great idea. Im going to modify my trusted small titan on the weekend loool. No more trips to the customers toilet to empty the wet vac lol
Ollie, i now hate changing 3 port or 2 ports as i get worried of movement on the primary flow cylinder union especially on the yellow lagged cylinder ( older cylinders).
We have all done it, but personally maybe you should show the right way to do it ..tie up the ball valve and partially drain the system then rather flapping around and with wet vacs, I'm sure apprentices are looking .also expansion takes place through the cold feed not the vent pipe..yr fault finding video's very professional are extremely informative.
This is definitely quicker though. :-) I don't often drain down for any repairs. Draining the top floor often results in airlocks so I try and lose as little water as possible. I accept the tank backfills through the cold feed under expansion but it does take place through both pipes. PS I dont tie up ball valves. :-) that went wrong once :-/
I don't get this bunging business. The time it takes to get out your ladder for the loft the wet vac the time in the loft to bung. Less time kit and effort to just drain the system. And maybe I'm lucky but I can't remember the last time I got an airlock from draining an open vent system to change a zone valve or pump. Just looks like more kit more time to stop something that doesn't happen that often and still less effort, kit and time even to sort the airlock after. If it happens.
Was told way back in the college days that you should always remove the vent first then the cold feed or it MAY cause a small air lock, not sure if this is true but I'm not one to upset the plumbing gods.
Love your videos. I'm training to be a plumber and these really help
Glad it helps :-)
Thank you for this - and in particular the dedication to get the camera/phone in the right spot whilst trying to manage a changing situation!
Thanks, I'm glad you actually noticed. Most people dont.
Hope it helped you out.
Great video and patience for working in such a confined space. Gives me the confidence to tackle my own pump replacement although it involves dismantling a few kitchen wall units for access. 🤨
I hope it went ok for you. Have a good plumber on standby.
Welcome back geek man, thought we had lost you. thanks for taking the time to do this, personally i prefer to partially drain rather than trust to luck with a snatch and go, i find it preferable to spend a bit of time draining and filling rather than cleaning. thanks again ollie.
I know what you mean. All my career I have been a stack them high and sell them cheap type engineer. I still drain things but I weigh up every situation before I start. :-)
Great video. How fortunate that insert depths on new pump valves were the same as the old ones!
This is the best practical mantainance video I have ever watched..and I have watched a lot...this is real life plumbing... problem after problem! And then solved 👍 well done that man.
Glad you enjoyed it! Its real life. No plan, just get it done. :-)
Good video again ollie, can't believe that pump nut never disappeared through a crack in the floorboards, you get it so easy
I know. :-)
What a ballache. Ollie you absolute trooper.❤
This one was a pain.
You are a much braver man than me ,I’d have isolated the tank on the ballofix and drained a couple of gallons of water out but I’m old and my heart is not as strong as it was .
Well done you! Amongst other internet tasks I do all the TH-cam research for my careers boiler jobs. Gas safe doesn't mean good advice isn't sometimes very helpful! I'm homebound so have plenty of time to get my teeth into checking out what is available on different jobs and have found you to be the most reliable, knowledgeable guy posting help! Thanks and keep up the good work!
Thank you! I will get back Ito it when i have time.
Brilliant video. I did a pump job successfully after watching this video. Keep up great work of educating others 👍
Great to hear! Keep learning :-)Keep safe.
Welcome back Ollie. Another fantastic video. Personally I prefer the boiler fault finding, but always learn something from your vids. So a big thank you. Very much appreciated
Thanks. I have the 3 port stuff to follow and then some boiler bits and bobs. :-)
God to see you back Ollie, hope your keeping busy.
That's why I have been gone. :-) Too much going on.
I’m about to start a years course at the same place Tina Barham teaches, that’s why I’m watching your videos and Tina’s to get more tips 💪🏻🙏🏻
That is great. Tina will get you up to speed pretty quickly.
Good to see you back, always enjoy your videos.
I got called out once found a burnt out pump and no water in the pipes! Found half a dead mouse binging up the f&e pipe. Brings do work!🤣
Yummy. Thats grim. :-)
Good to see you back Ollie.A nice little vid for apprentices to learn by.
Yeah it's not technical, but we all have to do it. :-)
We need to see some more from this awesome channel m..hope you are well sir
A few good tips your 100% on getting lucky with both valves holding !
People make everything look easy on the net. Real life is different. :-)
Those plugs you used on the CWS tank where did you get them from or was it a case of heres one I made earlier 👍
@@paulbrown1079 amzn.to/306WdpM
I once had to bung the cold water tank outlet when a builder skill sawed through the Bath pipe. No idea what made her think of it, but my wife gave me a bag of Carrots, one of them fitted well enough to work as a bung - genius! Not suggesting you keep carrots on the Van, but they saved our Kitchen ceiling.
:-) I have done the same thing :-) I even remember the block it happened in. ;-)
Good Video - I used some Wago connectors for the Mid Valve connection as to opposed to a terminal block, I believe also you can get a Regin 5 way plug /connector / socket for the connection.
Sorry I didn’t respond to this comment. I didn’t see it in my feed. :-(
Did a pump change recently as a favour for family, bought new valves , one of which was faulty, and those rubber valve washers wouldn't seal, luckily I had a couple of fibre ones with me, then it air locked when refilling, quick change turned into 3 hours and trying to find a pump valve on a Sunday Afternoon, such fun 😠
Favours..... Just not worth it sometimes. :-)
Finally your back. Great vid man. Thanks!
Good job I normally undo the 4 bolts holding pump body and spin it so it’s right way up.
I agree. I should of done that. :-)
Thanks for that Ollie. 1st time i’ve seen a cistern bunged. Have only changed 1 pump so far and had to get a junior hacksaw on the big nuts as they were seized and had about as much space as you did.
Real work :-) I hate it sometimes.
Nice vid as usual. I find using a thick rubble bag is good to catch water in situations where space is tight. I normally turn the pump head round to help it with the self vent inside it :)
Yeah I missed it on this one.
Always drain down to save time and give a professional, clean service :)
We are still here mate x keep up the videos
I have Loads of stuff to come.
Good to see you back
I’ve never had a wet vac you’ve just convinced me I need one in my kit. 👍
Unblock sinks suck the muddy water out of stopcock holes. Clean dirt of carpets:-/
Good to get a syphon going too
Also great for washing machines and dishwashers 👍🏻
Done a good job filming considering the tight space
Get a magnet on that H I'd put money on that being why it's pumping over. I have those Regin plugs too much better than the Drayton ones imo. I often use the end of the plug to cap the vent and those Regin 5 pin plugs are a dream for awkward wiring.
Great video 👍🏽
Your absolutely correct on the blocked H. I did check it and lost the video. :-)
Your wiring videos kicked arse!
Got the next one in the editing software :-)
Good to have you back 👍
Thanks. Been a difficult time lately. Just getting back to it. :-)
Really enjoying your videos, interesting stuff, fantastic commentary too 👌
Thanks. :-) I think it was a Stella too. ;-)
@@HeatingGeek definitely a can of Stella, If you know, you know 😉 🤣
Welcome back mate , missed your videos , you are a top engineer, shame your doing more wiring , I like your repair videos like on the biassi I used to own
I will get em done and get back to the real repairs soon. :-)
Great video 👍 , just fitted a similar pump today and I'm sure the instructions , say the terminal box , should not have the cable gland facing upwards.
Good vid. My tip is when bunging I always isolate the ball valve by tying it up or isolation valve. That way if the bungs airlock goes and the gurgle starts it doesn't refill and you can get back up and do the bungs again.
I haven't had any bunging issues for years. Still don't forget the things that didn't work. :-)
Keep at it. These are excellent and much appreciated. Very generous.
Thanks, will do!
The dreaded gergle, don’t you just know it mate !!! Luv ya vids , cheers
Its one of the worse sounds when your doing a 3 port. :-) Pump isn't too bad. :-)
Great video. This is exactly how I do it..... can you do a video on why it's pumping over. Would love to see your methods and causes.... cheers
I can. It will go on the list. (its a long list though)
Nice video of a realistic situation, good tips.
Glad you liked it!
Good to see you back mate.👍👍👍
Thanks for becoming a Patron.:-)
Good to see you back mate..😁
It’s nice to see a proper real life job, as it really happens.
Hi mate thank you for the videos I have been watching you often last time you were in your loft with your boiler thank you very much all the best
That was a while ago. 2018 I think. :-) Boiler is still going strong though.
Really enjoying your videos! Thanks
Another great informative video bud, keep up the brilliant work 👍
Thanks.:-)
Great video as always, keep them coming. Very informative
I always use a regin 5 pin plug on port valve changes, saves going into messy wiring centres.
Costs money though. I get a fixed fee and pay for parts on a lot of my work. :-)
@@HeatingGeek totally understand what you're saying. Great videos mate 👍
Me too
@@tomstrutton4351 Always use a 5 way connector? Or get a fixed fee?
HeatingGeek always use a 5 way connector, can’t always get into the wiring centre. Even if you can a cable can fall out that you don’t notice making you fault find all over again. Worth the 4 quid for speed alone
Top tip if you ever come across pump valve union stuck which is common as us plumbers know.. get hammer drill with small tungsten tip bit and use on hammer only to push around it never fails.. done loads over the years...
what do you mean by a small tungsten tip? Like a pozi?
HeatingGeek masonry drill bit with tungsten tip!..
@@markgau5009 Of course... My brain wasn't working when I replied.:-) Thanks
Good video appreciate your efforts and video. 👍
Thanks 👍
Well done mate thanks for your uploads
Glad you watch them.
As always - Brilliant video!!
Glad you like it. :-)
Good stuff. Thank you. Peace brother.
really good video guys
Glad you enjoyed it
Another quality video. Thank you!!
My pleasure! Thanks for taking the time to watch it. :-)
Great Video. Rule of thumb seems harder the job the less space to do it in 😲. Any thoughts on rubber or fibre washers? Only ask as rubber washers have disintegrated after 7 years and started leaking
Nice video mate!Really helpful!
Glad you liked it. :-)
Thank you for the video.
Great video keep up the good work
Do you paste your olives ?
Yes :-)
Great video mate 👍
Thanks ;-)
Very good vid showing the probs we guys come across, if the 3 point valve was a easy change would you have changed with out draining the system? Cheers.
I usually will drain off the system for a 3 port. Three pipes glugging away makes my arse twitch. :-(
Welcome back!
Thanks. :-) Did you already watch this?
@@HeatingGeek Nah I'm in the process of doing so.
that is a interesting job tight spaces top work enjoyed the video.
I usually remove the center bleed screw and see if the water stops dripping. It let's me know if the pump valves are letting by.
It can take a while to stop though. :-)
On the Alpha pumps, don’t you need to undo the hex bolts and turn the head the right way up? I only ask because I actually read the booklet you get with the pump. That was a red pump so not sure if it’s different.
Do you ever need ptfe tape on those gate valves?
no never.
Well explained bud, that’s what I would call a bastard of a job but we keep getting them, just have to get them done.
Alan.
Exactly :-)
Great video mate! “Maybe lost 2.5 litres of water” Like just for using the metric means of measure, can’t get my head around empirical measurements.
Thanks for watching. :-) I always use litres when talking about water. :-) What is a gallon anyway??
Great video some good tips 👍
Glad you enjoyed. Thanks :-)
Thank you , reality.
No problem dude. :-)
Brilliant, very helpful 👏
Glad you like it. :-)
So what's best fiber or rubber washer??
I like rubber on pumps. You don't need to tighten it up as much to get a seal.
If you take pump apart just install motor with impeller. I really appreciate the tools I have the same one there not cheap.
Do you ever change the head? Can be a good option sometimes.
Yes whenever I can. :-)
I normally crack the pump head off slightly with a rubble bag underneath, works a treat. Also, could have rotated pump head right way round 😉
I know..... :-) lots of people pointing it out. :-)
Sham 69: Another great vid Ollie. I will donate £50.00 to a charity of your choice if you let your hair grow for 6 months. Come on boys n girls this guy does a lot for us Engineers and all he's got to do is let his hair grow. Let us target 1K he won't be able to say no.
I will if you will.:-)
The worst pump I was asked to do had been installed behind an oil boiler(they weigh a ton). I had to take the oil boiler out to get at it. I changed the piping so the pump was accessible in future. I sometimes wonder about some of the people that install some systems.
That doesn't surprise me. I had a pump under a floor between the ceiling (below) and the floorboards. I just said no. I don't need the hassle. The customer was a dick so I didn't feel bad refusing to do it. He sued the insurance company when the next contractor left a yellow patch on the ceiling. The contractor had made him sign a waiver :-) All good.
Illuminati confirmed at 2.50 lol. Appreciate the time you take out to make these videos mate
what? I know my fingers from my thumb? :-)
Hi, great video, where did you learn your trade? Was it a year’s course and then out into the field? I’m watching your vids trying to get a understanding of your trade, hoping to get onto a course real soon, cheers
A 3 year apprenticeship for me. Most people doing 6 months courses nowadays but don't come out with very much knowledge.
Hi mate, how come you don't paste the compression fittings ???
I do. :-)
Well done nice job
Thanks for watching it. :-)
For all those non plumbers who say “changing a pump is easy I could do it myself”
This was easier than it looked but still difficult. :-)
Usually a spark
@Jonny Mosquito Strawman at Large Earlex or Wicks?
@Jonny Mosquito Strawman at Large I don't often use it.... But when I need to, i'm never disappointed
@Jonny Mosquito Strawman at Large what a great idea. Im going to modify my trusted small titan on the weekend loool. No more trips to the customers toilet to empty the wet vac lol
Ollie, i now hate changing 3 port or 2 ports as i get worried of movement on the primary flow cylinder union especially on the yellow lagged cylinder ( older cylinders).
I know. its horrible when its the close.
Quality installation :D
:-?
Great job, in shabby conditions again. Perhaps that explains why you always seem to have a heavy cold when you upload a new vid?? :-D
I have polyps in my nose. :-) Getting them done 28th. Might actually be able to smell gas again...
@@HeatingGeek Yeah, kinda crucial that! All the best for the 28th then. ;-)
@@rafflesnh Thanks :-)
Was the reason that the water over the expansion due to a blocked cold feed
Blocked H section. :-)
We have all done it, but personally maybe you should show the right way to do it ..tie up the ball valve and partially drain the system then rather flapping around and with wet vacs, I'm sure apprentices are looking .also expansion takes place through the cold feed not the vent pipe..yr fault finding video's very professional are extremely informative.
This is definitely quicker though. :-) I don't often drain down for any repairs. Draining the top floor often results in airlocks so I try and lose as little water as possible. I accept the tank backfills through the cold feed under expansion but it does take place through both pipes. PS I dont tie up ball valves. :-) that went wrong once :-/
if I drained the system for everyone of these I change I'd get sacked for time wasting! Bungs are my best friend!
I don't get this bunging business. The time it takes to get out your ladder for the loft the wet vac the time in the loft to bung. Less time kit and effort to just drain the system. And maybe I'm lucky but I can't remember the last time I got an airlock from draining an open vent system to change a zone valve or pump. Just looks like more kit more time to stop something that doesn't happen that often and still less effort, kit and time even to sort the airlock after. If it happens.
Hi great vid
But being old school I would have isolated header tank and drained down to top of ground floor rads then refilled
Obviously you get paid by the hour. :-)
good video i press the like button
Thanks ;-)
Great great video mate
Send me some more stickers. :-)
@@HeatingGeek only if you promise you're not using them as toilet paper
@@goldgas1216 Im sure they will turn up. :-0
@@HeatingGeek hahahaha bet they will, u won't want them after
So good
Top video 👍🏼
Thanks :-)
Another top video
Thanks for watching it. :-)
What part of London are you in buddy?
Hertfordshire. So I work all over. Even go Norwich and Bournemouth for work.
Was told way back in the college days that you should always remove the vent first then the cold feed or it MAY cause a small air lock, not sure if this is true but I'm not one to upset the plumbing gods.
I think you got that the wrong way around?? I might be wrong but I was taught the opposite. :-)
Great video
Thanks
Good video. Kèep em coming
Thanks :-) I will
Heavy duty rubble bags are good for catching water in situations like this
I have seen the bottom fail on them before. Thats why I don't use them. Once bitten twice shy. :-)