I don't understand why they like harkonnens in Villeneuve's version. They were so lame and boring there. Baron was very fun and twisted in the books. I prefer Lynche's Baron much more.
Sometimes you have to wonder if Monte is a complete idiot playing a dandy who only thinks he's smarter than everyone else. If a special effect is unlike anything he's seen before (in Star Wars, of course) then it must be "terrible" and "stupid." He even calls George Lucas a "genius" or somesuch (I really hope he means a genius only of FX). Many of the FX is Dune are intended to look like the 1940's Flash Gordon TV serials that Lynch surely grew up with. He's more concerned about trashing the film so he can repeatedly reference that he read the book, than he is recognizing how incredibly unique the movie is. So bizarre that Monte thinks "Get out of my mind" is the worst dialogue ever written.Huh? And that he thinks Villanueve's "nails the Harkonnens the hardest". I guess Monte loves to keep it bland! Like his life.
"I can't think of any parallels to putting a pop star in a movie?" "It' would be like if Taylor Swift were cast in the new movie. It would be weird." Yeah, or it might be as ridiculous as casting Zendaya in a major role!
The 1984 movie seems to be a collection of scenes from the book instead of a full movie. Which makes it really fun for people who like the book, less so for others.
BTW, the "weirding modules" were adopted - reportedly at the suggestion of Frank Herbert himself - because Lynch hated the idea of "Kung Fu fighting" (the BG's Prana Bindu techniques) in the film: it was just TOO 1970's!
Dune 1984 is, frankly, one of my guilty pleasures. Yes it's weird (it's a DAVID LYNCH film! - and that's a GOOD thing!). Yes the 40-year old special effects weren't great. Yes the studio interfered badly and ensured the end of the film badly contradicts everything Dune is about. But still: it's SO bad, it's a hoot!
This is a DUNE you can watch a thousand times and always discover something new. It's kinky, it's weird, it's terrifying, it's ponderous and it's as eccentric as one could ever hope from a big budget Hollywood film. Every single member of the cast is superior to every single member of Villanueve's Nickelodeon cast. Watching Villanueve's adaptation was like staring longingly into a bowl of dried oatmeal. And no one in the cast seemed to have a clue what the movie was about, least of all the Fremen expositionists. Villanueve clearly spent all of his time and budget ensuring that the CGI sand dunes looked perfect and that not a lock of Chalamet's perfect hair was ever out of place (on the most violent desert planet in the universe). So busy he couldn't give the cast a scintilla of direction. The fact that critics drooled all over it shows how far film criticism has fallen. They all read whoever put out the first gushing review and then they all wrote exactly the same sentiments in only slightly different rewordings. A REAL critic like Pauline Kael would have eviscerated Villanueve's movie. Hell, she might have eviscerated Lynch's Dune as well, but I guarantee she would have found it more fascinating than Villanueve's lukewarm dung heap. Is there anyone in the new Dune as good as Patrick Stewart? Anyone as good as Kyle Maclaughlin? Anyone as good as Brad Dourif (who also played Wormtongue in LoTR)? Is there anything as magnificently grotesque and menacing as Lynch's Baron? Instead you have Zendaya who is as believable as a half-eaten waffle. You have Aquaman playing the same role he always plays...a big loveable Malamut slobbering all over Chalamet (because they are best friends). You have a lifeless cast that could have been deepfaked by AI and displayed more emotion. Villaneueve's Dune sucked! And I didn't want it to suck. I was excited to see it. But It was unwatchable. Everything great about Lynch's version was drained as dry as Arrakis. LONG LIVE THE FIGHTERS!
I disagree with most of your criticism. Dune 84 is not a great movie but its way more interesting and fun than boring forgettable new movies. You have a lot of Zoomer takes for people that clearly aren't Zoomers.
Beams from the Orifice is an incredible name for a band
"Beams from the Orifice was my electro-swing band in high school"
I don't understand why they like harkonnens in Villeneuve's version. They were so lame and boring there. Baron was very fun and twisted in the books. I prefer Lynche's Baron much more.
Sometimes you have to wonder if Monte is a complete idiot playing a dandy who only thinks he's smarter than everyone else. If a special effect is unlike anything he's seen before (in Star Wars, of course) then it must be "terrible" and "stupid." He even calls George Lucas a "genius" or somesuch (I really hope he means a genius only of FX). Many of the FX is Dune are intended to look like the 1940's Flash Gordon TV serials that Lynch surely grew up with. He's more concerned about trashing the film so he can repeatedly reference that he read the book, than he is recognizing how incredibly unique the movie is. So bizarre that Monte thinks "Get out of my mind" is the worst dialogue ever written.Huh? And that he thinks Villanueve's "nails the Harkonnens the hardest". I guess Monte loves to keep it bland! Like his life.
"I can't think of any parallels to putting a pop star in a movie?"
"It' would be like if Taylor Swift were cast in the new movie. It would be weird."
Yeah, or it might be as ridiculous as casting Zendaya in a major role!
Should do the 2000 miniseries, too!
Hell yes, planing to rewatch it anways
I have that pop up book. I got it when i was 7 or 8, and it was incredible.
The 1984 movie seems to be a collection of scenes from the book instead of a full movie. Which makes it really fun for people who like the book, less so for others.
If they pulled off Alia it would be cool and horrifying though.
BTW, the "weirding modules" were adopted - reportedly at the suggestion of Frank Herbert himself - because Lynch hated the idea of "Kung Fu fighting" (the BG's Prana Bindu techniques) in the film: it was just TOO 1970's!
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Dune 1984 is, frankly, one of my guilty pleasures.
Yes it's weird (it's a DAVID LYNCH film! - and that's a GOOD thing!).
Yes the 40-year old special effects weren't great.
Yes the studio interfered badly and ensured the end of the film badly contradicts everything Dune is about.
But still: it's SO bad, it's a hoot!
“Don’t turn into a space guild navigator” - new entry for the codex.
Seeing Sting in this movie always throws me off
This is a DUNE you can watch a thousand times and always discover something new. It's kinky, it's weird, it's terrifying, it's ponderous and it's as eccentric as one could ever hope from a big budget Hollywood film. Every single member of the cast is superior to every single member of Villanueve's Nickelodeon cast. Watching Villanueve's adaptation was like staring longingly into a bowl of dried oatmeal. And no one in the cast seemed to have a clue what the movie was about, least of all the Fremen expositionists. Villanueve clearly spent all of his time and budget ensuring that the CGI sand dunes looked perfect and that not a lock of Chalamet's perfect hair was ever out of place (on the most violent desert planet in the universe). So busy he couldn't give the cast a scintilla of direction. The fact that critics drooled all over it shows how far film criticism has fallen. They all read whoever put out the first gushing review and then they all wrote exactly the same sentiments in only slightly different rewordings. A REAL critic like Pauline Kael would have eviscerated Villanueve's movie. Hell, she might have eviscerated Lynch's Dune as well, but I guarantee she would have found it more fascinating than Villanueve's lukewarm dung heap. Is there anyone in the new Dune as good as Patrick Stewart? Anyone as good as Kyle Maclaughlin? Anyone as good as Brad Dourif (who also played Wormtongue in LoTR)? Is there anything as magnificently grotesque and menacing as Lynch's Baron? Instead you have Zendaya who is as believable as a half-eaten waffle. You have Aquaman playing the same role he always plays...a big loveable Malamut slobbering all over Chalamet (because they are best friends). You have a lifeless cast that could have been deepfaked by AI and displayed more emotion. Villaneueve's Dune sucked! And I didn't want it to suck. I was excited to see it. But It was unwatchable. Everything great about Lynch's version was drained as dry as Arrakis. LONG LIVE THE FIGHTERS!
was waiting for this
stop with the cope, its fucking silly bad😊
Dune 1984 > Dunc !
I disagree with most of your criticism. Dune 84 is not a great movie but its way more interesting and fun than boring forgettable new movies. You have a lot of Zoomer takes for people that clearly aren't Zoomers.