An older brother who felt guilt over not being able to protect his family, the middle child who is overcome with grief and longs to see his lost love again, and a little brother who wished to hide from it all.
@@ZephyrBW People who feel helpless (for example, failing to protect one's family), often seek power so that they never have to feel helpless ever again. So it might not be a contradiction
@@ZephyrBWI like to think that as time passes, the brothers’ real experiences morph into a full-blown fairy tale. Details aren’t only embellished to make things more fanciful (and to fill in some more secretive blanks), but to do the classic duty of the genre in being a warning, or morality story. Of course it’ll never be known, but perhaps the eldest was simply existing with his powerful creation, continuously drawing more ire and envious eyes from his peers. Similar to a person today who becomes a target merely from wearing some expensive jewelry, his death may not have necessarily been spurred by him boasting about his wand. Regardless, his life is cut short via senseless violence, kicking off the trail of greed and further loss of life in pursuit of the Elder Wand. The narrative is ultimately rearranged into a fable about an egregious pursuit of power and ultimate downfall.
I have a different theory about the Resurrection Stone: during a high-school biology class, we cut open the eye of a cow and there was a glass-like lens inside. A part of a thestral's eye seems fitting for an object that lets you see the dead, much more so than a bezoar.
Seems more likely than the bezoar, to be honest. That part felt like a stretch, which was a bit upsetting since the other two were pretty solid. I like the thestral eye lens letting you see into death, keeps the same idea as the others.
@@KuraiLunae OK i took an L for the team on this one. Looked up what a horse eye look like on the inside. I'll say it could be any one but seeing as it for seeing. It's more likely to be from the eye of the Thestral. The inside of a horse size eye has a part that are just the right size and look like a stone.
In the theory fandom, Cadmus pevrell created the veil as a gateway to death, but it was one way, so he created the resurrection stone to bring the dead back, but it didn’t work and he was so distraught he created the cruciatus curse Antioch created the mirror of erised to show you what you desire, then he created the elder wand to accomplish what you desire and cannot be defeated, then created avada kedavra, a spell that cannot be blocked Ignotius created the pensive to be invisible to people in his own thoughts, then created the invisibility cloak to be invisible in the present, then created imperius to control other people’s thoughts
You mean the Imperius curse with the third brother. I think the theory could be true although I‘m not sure if it would be good writing or not if the 3 created all those things themselves. You know what I mean? For me it would be more interesting if fate would regularly chose 3 family members or friends to „test“ them - or something similar.
In the fandom the cloak makes the user immune to magic while worn, and the stone never calls the dead, but encourages you to kill yourself by having your loved ones tell you to do it. I like these additions 😂😂
I like the idea of a bezoar being the basis for the resurrection stone. But, what if it was an attempt at the philosopher's stone? If the wife of the second brother was sick, and the second brother set to alchemy to cure her but failed, it's fitting to pivot to trying to resurrect or at least communicate with her. Using his knowledge of alchemy, he was able to create a stone with properties to reach the other side of the veil. He was no longer interested in eternal life, but one step further in resurrecting the dead, fell short and was only able to communicate with the dead instead.
What if the resurrection stone is one of the components to the actual stone? Red, white, black. What if he actually didn’t intentionally pivot and instead concentrated one of the three elements alone into a stone?
I find it more likely that the rock used to create the RS was a piece of the Veil perhaps filtered through a thestral like a Beozar. The SS seems to be its own thing in a different area of magic
For the "bezoar" theory, I think it best to give it a lot more wiggle room. A bezoar is specifically a stone taken from the stomach of a goat. If the RS is a stone taken from a thestral, it need not be so precisely analogous. It might be a thestral kidney stone, or a stone taken from any other part of the thestral's body. It could be a hard bone, or a piece of a bone of a thestral. Or maybe even a fossilized piece of thestral flesh. There are many possible ways a stone might be gathered from a thestral.
Can you imagine being accused of witchcraft, you try to deny it, and then *POOF!* A sword falls out of your hat. How do you get out of that? 🤣 “That darn rabbit! Always pulling a disappearing act. Let me go get him. **proceeds to disapparate**”
I am waiting for the weather to change in my area before I start my binge of the HP and LOTR movies and audiobooks lol especially HP during the rainy season.
this makes a lot of sense. the older brother after the death of the seconds fiancee wished to be able to fight off those that killed her, went looking for them and died. the second wishes to see his beloved again. the third wished he could have hid her so she would have died so he made a cloak that could do just that. each created something to cope with the grief they felt in their own way.
Something I found out and thought was interesting was that the Cloak was the only object *unique* to Death himself. In the story, Death grabbed a stick from a tree and gave it to Antioch. Then, he plucked a stone from the river and gave it to Cadmus. Finally, Death gave his *own* Cloak of Invisibility to Ignotus.
I recently convinced myself that Harry's repaired holly and Phoenix-feather wand can also repair wands now, since Ollivander told us that wands and wizards share a mutual quest for knowledge and abilities, and Harry's wand has once before imbibed power from another's wand. I believe both wizard and wand learned a new skill from the Elder Wand.
My personal theory on the cloak: The cloaks opaque side is always described as looking silvery, so what if it actually IS silver? All of the objects that have kept enchantments for long periods of time seem to have some sort of metal component, and we know that goblin metal absorbs that which makes it stronger. So the cloak could be a brocade of goblin made silver which is why it's able to hold on to the disillusionment charm for so long. This is also supported by the cloaks appearance in the films, which is rather like a brocade.
I always thought it was because of mirrors being made of glass and silver-glass being transparent and silver being reflective both seemed to fit for an object that grants invisibility
New fan theory: All of the powerful magical artifacts were designed and created by goblins and are so easy to make that they don't really care that the wizards keep them, dispite goblin ownership lying with the creators rather than the buyers. Wizards think all of these artifacts are super rare and hard to make, but it's just because they don't really talk to goblins about anything other than banking
I was wondering if the Huffel Cup can do what you can't do with magic? Whereas magic can not create something from nothing, maybe the Cup can create Food from nothing?!!!
I've always just assumed the locket literally just has a "regular" portrait of Slytherin in it, and since he can speak parceltongue and knows where his own chamber of secrets so it wouldn't really need any additional magic for any of that
I like the idea, it seems plausible. However i would imagine that there is more to them than just harvesting the raw materials. There might be certain enchantments done to the invisibility cloak to to change the power to be permanent. The same goes for the stone, maybe there is some sort of alchemical procedure you do to a thestral bezoar in order to create a resurrection stone
For standard cloaks either the material fails or the enchantment. So I think you are right in thinking it might be unique because the mix of both. The unique material used wouldn’t naturally wear away, and the even more magical nature would better hold the enchantments.
14:53: Aren't Thestrals carnivores? I mean those can produce bezoars, but I don't think they stay long enough to get to the "stone" stage since the animal expells them through the mouth. And they usually made mostly out of hair and maybe bones. Not quite like the description. So still going off of your theory it's now my head cannon that the second brother used a uniquely large Thestral kidney stone to make the resurrection stone.
For the "bezoar" theory, I think it best to give it a lot more wiggle room. A bezoar is specifically a stone taken from the stomach of a goat. If the RS is a stone taken from a thestral, it need not be so precisely analogous. It could be a thestral kidney stone, or a stone taken from any other part of the thestral's body. It could be a hard bone, or a piece of a bone of a thestral. Or maybe even a fossilized piece of thestral flesh. There are many possible ways a stone might be gathered from a thestral. Any one of which could be magical, or at least be able to have the appropriate magical properties placed upon it.
Yes thestrals are carnivores specifically requiring fresh and bloody meat and no a thestral has a tough hide that looks like leather that hangs in such a way as to reveal the bone structure think of a freshly decomposing pegasus and that is the closest you'll get to a thestral description. Also yeah thestrals are quite capable of creating bezoars perhaps with a rarity rarer than goatkind.
@@PhilBagels According to wikipedia it's not specific to goats. It's an umbrella term. From a goat it would be a phytobezoar. From flesh eating animals it would be a pilobezoar. Of cause it could be that indian dude first to describe it had it from a goat. But yeah, the brother could have taken it from a lot of thestral parts I guess.
i feel like it was never a bezoar from a thestral, it was an eye because it really ties in with the rule that you need to SEE death in order to SEE thestrals. So if you can see thestrals, it means that you can see dead people...
It is interesting that while we even see some of the students creating magic items such as the potter stinks pins and the DA coins, that we never have any kind of magical item creation class which I feel like would be really helpful. Based on the nature of the magic Charms class seems like it might overlap, but who knows.
It’s my theory that hogwarts used to offer far more classes but with the recent influx of dark lords like Grindlewald and Tom the professors capable of offering such classes were slaughtered heck divination barely has a class. I like your idea of Advanced Object Enchantment I think I’ll include it with Alchemy, Advanced Magical Healing, and Magizoology
The resurrection stone and the patronus spell have the most in common. The stone is almost obviously creating an INCREDIBLY powerful version of a patronus. The way I view it is, the stone brought Harry his “family” but they were just part of him, how he views those people. It didn’t actually pull from beyond the Veil, as it were.
I mean mighty eagle, brave powerful lion, and the underestimated yet ever dangerous serpent and then there’s hufflepuff. Why a badger? Why, because Helga was royally plastered when selecting her insignia.
As much as I agree with the Bezoar theory, I believe the animal from which it comes is not Thestral. All animals considered IRL, the Bezoar is found only in herbivores such as Goats, Ox, Cattle, etc. Bezoars are made up of undigestible fruits, skins, seeds, etc. Thestrals on the other hand are predators and carnivores and would not produce Bezoars realistically speaking (I understand these are magical creatures and most anything is possible). That being said, if there were a Bezoar that could magically interact with Death and produce and item that could even put a halt to Death, I believe it would have to come from a Unicorn, and in the Act of procuring the Bezoar, thus killing the Unicorn, it could produce a type of Bezoar that would be extremely rare and very magical in abilities. Upon the death of a fiance, I am sure the 2nd Brother would go to any length, even sacrificing something as beautiful and amazing as a Unicorn that would then only provide something so horrid that it drove him to his own peril.
I think the Resurrection Stone has more to it than just a thestral stomach or kidney stone. I think that the second brother created the stone deliberately by feeding a thestral a small piece of the Veil because that wording was very deliberate meaning the Veil has something to do with it. It would also explain why no other RS seem to exist despite it under your idea being fairly simple to recreate, it’s because its creation was deliberate. As for the cloak I would argue that the thestral hair argument makes sense but it’s was powerfully enchanted to remove the exception (those who have seen death) of seeing it so that once activated so no one could see it a simpler solution is simply the best option here. As for the Elder Wand I got nothing here (we know so much yet so little about wand making) as it just seems like the wand was lightning in a bottle that given the same resources to say Ollivander couldn’t be recreated the wand was simple luck as far as we can understand about wand making.
Imo, the thing about the resurrection stone in Harry's case boils down to the basic strength behind magic that is intent. His intent behind using the stone wasn't to bring back his loved ones and force them to live forever with him. Instead he wanted them to help him with strength so that he could meet Death, or rather his fate/friend, quicker. He wasn't avoiding or refuting the inevitable rather pushing himself further towards it. It is both a testament to his character and the intent with which the stone is used.
Re The Locket - I always assumed that Harry DID know how to open the locket, even if not told to the reader, but just didn't dare until they were ready to destroy it
Not going to lie bro I've been waiting around all day to do Pokemon go and I just decided to go out and put a poncho in my pocket in case it started raining
Not entirely on the topic of the deathly hallows, but on the topic of crazy powerful magical artifacts: I believe that Lupin is actually the most powerful wizard of his generation, maybe even more powerful than Dumbledore, and he’s the reason the a bunch of Highschoolers maneged to make an object more powerful than the founders of Hogwarts themselves. Think about it. We know depression can make people loose there magic, like with Merope Gaunt becoming a squib beacaus of domestic abuse, and Tonks loosing her metamorphosis abilities when Lupin continues to reject her beacaus of how much he hates himself. If there’s one depressed character in the books, it’s Lupin, yet he always seems to be plenty powerful. The only explanation for this is if he would have been crazy powerful if he actually had good mental health. And the time in his life he was happiest was when he had the marauders, and that’s when he was able to reach his full potential and create the map!
The sorting hat is also gryffindors. It is much more his artifact then the sword. It is the means of sorting and can read people's deepest thoughts for that purpose, plus it is sentient in its own right. It's the means for the sword to appear to Gryffindor students, the sword never does this on its own. The sword doesnt really have any magic abilities but the hat truly shows what a magic artifact can be and how good Gryffindor was to have created it. No other artifact in the books shows nearly that level of sentients with the possible exception of pictures/paintings which copy the subjects intelligence but the sorting hat is uniquely it's own.
Early ❤ I love you guys so much. You're doing a great job and I would actually be lost without this channel 😂. Yall deserve all the success in the world. ❤
You guys made a video out of my theory! How exciting! Nice addition to the theory with the bezoar stone too! I wasn't sure what part of the thestral the stone may have been made from. I considered bone or a petrified eye, but a bezoar does seem to fit extremely well too. Great idea, guys!
Don't sell yourself short Ben, that Flitwick impression was spot on. Also, rooting for you that the next generation of Carlin kids pick up snowboarding. Team Snowboard vs Team Ski.
This is the most sensible Theory I've ever heard. The Thestral is really a powerful metaphor for death. It's not something you can see, people have many fears and superstitions about it and those who have experienced the loss of another tend to see Death in a different light.
0:24 As a Virginian (Williamsburg currently but I used to live in Salem/Roanoke near you guys and think I met one or both of you once), I can confirm that this is a crazy storm
*A few years after The Battle of Hogwarts* Harry: And that's the last anyone will ever see of the resurrection stone Hagrid, who has 7 Thestral bezores in his cabinets right now: What a marvelous story Harry.
Love this theory. It would even explain the superstition that Thestrals are unlucky. The three brothers saw one and all died soon after, beginning the superstition.
Hey Brother! Scenario for you; What if in the Competition of the Goblet of Fire, the organizers had tried to rig things, so Harry wouldn’t have had as hard a time in it, at least with the first task if nothing else. Here’s evidence: 1. According to Newt Scamander in “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them” in the section for Dragons, we learn that Welsh Greens are among the most docile of dragons. 2. In “The Other Minister” Fudge tells the Muggle Prime Minister “We’re importing 3 dragons….” This means that the organizers had already planned on the Horntail, Ridgeback and Chinese Fireball. They needed a 4th dragon. Hence Welsh Green.
Dear SuperCarlinBorthers , I have a question that goes with this video. If Dumbledore was obsessed with the deathly hallows and wanted to use them to rise to power, is it possible that he made his own hallows? He has made the dilluminator, and one of you theories suggests he made moody’s eye too. If he made hallows that mimic or are similar to the original three what do you think the third is? My personal theory is the mirror of airised if the second brother didn’t make it. Please look into this because I have had this idea since through the griffindoor has come out!
I actually think Death did it. Was it my DnD/Pathfinder Character? No, but it would be cool if it was. That being said, this is an excellent in-universe way of describing it in a not meeting God moment.
Oh no! A Ben hosted video about Harry Potter with a RAIN soundtrack!!!!! What will we ever do? But seriously, you could put rain sounds in the back of every video and I would love that very much ❤
In the "15 Questions We Both Missed" (or more precisely, "14 HP Questions + 'How Many Potential Questions Could Have Been Here'") quiz, one of the questions was effectively "how did Lily/Hermione get her Hogwarts letter." The answer was "[it would be] hand-delivered by a staff member," but in each case, which member seems the most likely to do this? And (and this isn't part of the JvB) here's my question: how would the family be able to get to the Cauldron and/or Diagon Alley? Would the letter to the family have, say, the *adjacent* buildings to the Cauldron? What would these letters have that Harry's didn't? If the literal "magic gene" was indeed genetic, (for example, Harry/Neville) then I guess the children would notice, hence why it probably wouldn't be in the letter. Of course in the case of Harry specifically, he's been separated from the Wizarding World for... 9 3/4 years (look at that- it's the platform number!) so it takes Hagrid for Harry to notice the Cauldron.
I m pretty sure to be the first person to have created this theory and posted it several times in comments on your videos and ig messages. Wether you took it from there or came out as an idea of yours I m glad it has finally come to be a video!
⚠️Off topic from video, day twenty of asking for what ifs⚠️ 1: What if Dudley went to Hogwarts? I think he'd be a Hufflepuff and be pretty good at defense against the dark arts and I think it would be fun to have him be good at divination cause none of the golden trio are good at or even seem to respect it. 2: What if Aang died with the other Air nomads and one of the other main characters eventually became the Avatar? I think the most interesting would be Sokka and Zuko. 3: What if Prim became the Mockingjay? The only way I see this happening is if Katniss gets caught hunting and either gets killed or sent to the Capital and becomes an avox, a year or two before Prims game so she gets some survival skills not as good as Katniss but better than nothing. 4: So this one is kinda out there maybe it would be fun to do as a April fools thing or something I don't know but here we go... What if you guys made a Harry Potter crossover? Only crossovers with stuff that could feasibly exist in the Harry Potter world, the first ones that pop into my mind is Percy Jackson, Buffy the vampire slayer, BBC's Merlin maybe Supernatural the last one I'm less sure but you get the point like I said this last suggestion is very out there and I don't expect it to go anywhere. 5: There's a lot of fanfic out there where Harry is raised by someone who are not the Dursley's I definitely think you guys should do a full what if for that concept I find the most interesting being Harry is raised by Snape. 6: Here's a what if that could potentially keep Yue alive but also have her more involved in the story and I think be a pretty interesting story to follow, what before Zuko got banished the fire lord and Yue's father had arranged marriage planned for the two? The water tribe agrees out of a desperation to not get attacked the fire nation is doing it to have control over the water tribe the idea is that the two are essentially already married but haven't had the ceremony yet but this means when Zuko gets banished Yue gets banished with him she can't even go to her tribe cause the fire nation could use it as an excuse to attack.
Question: Do Thestrals even have hairs? Where do the wand makers get them from; what part of a Thestral has hair? Thanks so much for all your wonderful videos, theories and quizzes!
This channel has done multiple “what if” in the Harry Potter fandom, and they have been amazing fun! With that in mind, I’d love to know their take on a different fandom’s “what if”. What if Anakin had told Yoda about Palpatine instead of Windu? Or even the Avatar the Last Airbender what if: What if Zuko was sailing the North instead of the South when Aang was found?
On Harry's invisibility cloak being different from normal ones: another thing to point out is that at one point someone (I can't remember for sure but I think it was Snape) tried to use Accio on the cloak when Harry was wearing it and it did nothing.
wait, i know you have the theory about moody's eye being grindelwald's but what if it is simply the eye of a dead person, and if you remove it soon enough and enchant it then it works. and now that is why he can see through the cloak
Sorry this has nothing to do with the video, but could someone confirm this.. Hermione brews Polyjuice Potion in her 2nd year. It takes nearly a month. The end result is 6 mouthfuls of potion (Harry, Ron, Hermione drink 2 mouthfuls each) with lasts a total of 3 hours. Barty Crouch was drinking this potion on the hour every hour for a year. 1 recipe = 6 mouthfuls aka 3 hours. Say he slept 6 hours a night (assuming he didn't wake up to take it) that's 18 hours awake, he needs to multiply the recipe 6 times every day to have enough potion. So 6 batches of Polyjuice potion per day. The recipe calls for 4 leeches. 4x6 = 24 leeches per day. The recipe calls for "3 measures of boomslang skin " (according to HP wiki) thats 3 x 6 = 18 measures of Boomslang skin per day. ... I could go on and on. It seems like a lot to eat per day, not to mention hard to source ingredients, and expensive. Somethings fishy..
Building on this theory- Middle brothers bride was murdered in front of brothers (hence they witnessed death, could see thestrals). Once they saw thestral, they were amazed, decided to check their magical properties and created hallows (thestral objects and their magic abilities). Oldest brother, regretting of not able to protect his family, seeked revenge to person who killed his brothers bride. and that story follows as is.. Middle brother followed story as is. Youngest - was traumatised and wanted to hide from murderer who killed middle brothers bride. Also - i would swap beezor for thestral eye. see death and stuff.
The cloak could be crafted from a blend of both thestral and demiguise hair. This could make the cloak grant invisibility, as with standard demiguise cloaks, but the addition of the thestral hair could act to augment the properties of the cloak by making the demiguise hair more resilient. There may even be a bit of unicorn hair for good measure to add resistance to spells as Harry's cloak cannot be summoned while in use and seems to render detection spells ineffective.
Had to pause and take just a brief moment to type out THANK YOU SO MUCH for these videos but especially this one today. This election term and all the hoopla with it has become so stressful and toxic and some good harry potter theory and lore is EXACTLY what the doctor ordered, along with a dab. So just yeah know your work is GREATLY appreciated. changed the whole vibe back to good
Unrelated, but the clip of Aragog struck me just now... The fact that his body is where he is when Harry and Professor Slughorn find him means that just before he died he used the last of his will to come visit Hagrid. That's kind of heartbreaking. There are two other possibilities: Hagrid knew that Aragog had died or was dying and waded into his hollow to bring his body out for some reason, or that Aragog's children brought his body to Hagrid. I feel that either of these is unlikely.
I believe the resurrection stone is made from twin cores both placed slightly off center in the bezor of a thestral. When you turn the stone in your hand the cores twist together until they produce the prioriy incontatem effect which is contained by the "stone" allowing it to safely create the "light of the dead" but as it is contained within a thestral bezor the projection is more misty and cloaked as if hidden by a vail, a shade.
I always loved the HPMOR theory on these objects out of various aspects of thestral. Like the elder wand is a thestral core wand, and the true cloak of invisibility is woven thestral and enchanted with thestral blood. Its uncertain how the stone is related though.
This is an awesome find about the ring possibly being a bezoar The movie relics look great but I like having a canon book version of the artifacts more 😄😄
An older brother who felt guilt over not being able to protect his family, the middle child who is overcome with grief and longs to see his lost love again, and a little brother who wished to hide from it all.
That was an awfully good and short analysis, I hope this one gets noticed because that just makes way too much sense.
That's was a short but very precise breakdown
I felt the elder brother just wanted more power
@@ZephyrBW People who feel helpless (for example, failing to protect one's family), often seek power so that they never have to feel helpless ever again. So it might not be a contradiction
@@ZephyrBWI like to think that as time passes, the brothers’ real experiences morph into a full-blown fairy tale. Details aren’t only embellished to make things more fanciful (and to fill in some more secretive blanks), but to do the classic duty of the genre in being a warning, or morality story.
Of course it’ll never be known, but perhaps the eldest was simply existing with his powerful creation, continuously drawing more ire and envious eyes from his peers. Similar to a person today who becomes a target merely from wearing some expensive jewelry, his death may not have necessarily been spurred by him boasting about his wand. Regardless, his life is cut short via senseless violence, kicking off the trail of greed and further loss of life in pursuit of the Elder Wand. The narrative is ultimately rearranged into a fable about an egregious pursuit of power and ultimate downfall.
I have a different theory about the Resurrection Stone: during a high-school biology class, we cut open the eye of a cow and there was a glass-like lens inside. A part of a thestral's eye seems fitting for an object that lets you see the dead, much more so than a bezoar.
I like it!
I have a theory now....
yo thats a super cool theory!
Seems more likely than the bezoar, to be honest. That part felt like a stretch, which was a bit upsetting since the other two were pretty solid. I like the thestral eye lens letting you see into death, keeps the same idea as the others.
@@KuraiLunae OK i took an L for the team on this one. Looked up what a horse eye look like on the inside. I'll say it could be any one but seeing as it for seeing. It's more likely to be from the eye of the Thestral. The inside of a horse size eye has a part that are just the right size and look like a stone.
In the theory fandom, Cadmus pevrell created the veil as a gateway to death, but it was one way, so he created the resurrection stone to bring the dead back, but it didn’t work and he was so distraught he created the cruciatus curse
Antioch created the mirror of erised to show you what you desire, then he created the elder wand to accomplish what you desire and cannot be defeated, then created avada kedavra, a spell that cannot be blocked
Ignotius created the pensive to be invisible to people in his own thoughts, then created the invisibility cloak to be invisible in the present, then created imperius to control other people’s thoughts
Yes. They covered these in part before
You mean the Imperius curse with the third brother. I think the theory could be true although I‘m not sure if it would be good writing or not if the 3 created all those things themselves. You know what I mean? For me it would be more interesting if fate would regularly chose 3 family members or friends to „test“ them - or something similar.
wow i love this, it also shows how in 2 different moments of life you deal with things in a different way
In the fandom the cloak makes the user immune to magic while worn, and the stone never calls the dead, but encourages you to kill yourself by having your loved ones tell you to do it. I like these additions 😂😂
This is the way
I like the idea of a bezoar being the basis for the resurrection stone. But, what if it was an attempt at the philosopher's stone? If the wife of the second brother was sick, and the second brother set to alchemy to cure her but failed, it's fitting to pivot to trying to resurrect or at least communicate with her. Using his knowledge of alchemy, he was able to create a stone with properties to reach the other side of the veil. He was no longer interested in eternal life, but one step further in resurrecting the dead, fell short and was only able to communicate with the dead instead.
What if the resurrection stone is one of the components to the actual stone?
Red, white, black. What if he actually didn’t intentionally pivot and instead concentrated one of the three elements alone into a stone?
I find it more likely that the rock used to create the RS was a piece of the Veil perhaps filtered through a thestral like a Beozar. The SS seems to be its own thing in a different area of magic
@@triforceofcourage100 Bdoubleoh100
For the "bezoar" theory, I think it best to give it a lot more wiggle room. A bezoar is specifically a stone taken from the stomach of a goat. If the RS is a stone taken from a thestral, it need not be so precisely analogous. It might be a thestral kidney stone, or a stone taken from any other part of the thestral's body. It could be a hard bone, or a piece of a bone of a thestral. Or maybe even a fossilized piece of thestral flesh. There are many possible ways a stone might be gathered from a thestral.
how did u make the philosophers stone blue text
Can you imagine being accused of witchcraft, you try to deny it, and then *POOF!*
A sword falls out of your hat. How do you get out of that? 🤣
“That darn rabbit! Always pulling a disappearing act. Let me go get him. **proceeds to disapparate**”
You get out of it with the sword, obviously
The rain in the background while talking about Harry Potter is a mood.
Yea the very light white noise actually just a nice ambiance
It's raining where I am so I didn't notice it was the video lol
came to the comments to say just this *thumbs up
I am waiting for the weather to change in my area before I start my binge of the HP and LOTR movies and audiobooks lol especially HP during the rainy season.
Yeah for some reason I actually like it
this makes a lot of sense. the older brother after the death of the seconds fiancee wished to be able to fight off those that killed her, went looking for them and died. the second wishes to see his beloved again. the third wished he could have hid her so she would have died so he made a cloak that could do just that. each created something to cope with the grief they felt in their own way.
Something I found out and thought was interesting was that the Cloak was the only object *unique* to Death himself. In the story, Death grabbed a stick from a tree and gave it to Antioch. Then, he plucked a stone from the river and gave it to Cadmus. Finally, Death gave his *own* Cloak of Invisibility to Ignotus.
I recently convinced myself that Harry's repaired holly and Phoenix-feather wand can also repair wands now, since Ollivander told us that wands and wizards share a mutual quest for knowledge and abilities, and Harry's wand has once before imbibed power from another's wand. I believe both wizard and wand learned a new skill from the Elder Wand.
Harry could be the new Ollivander 😮
My personal theory on the cloak:
The cloaks opaque side is always described as looking silvery, so what if it actually IS silver?
All of the objects that have kept enchantments for long periods of time seem to have some sort of metal component, and we know that goblin metal absorbs that which makes it stronger. So the cloak could be a brocade of goblin made silver which is why it's able to hold on to the disillusionment charm for so long. This is also supported by the cloaks appearance in the films, which is rather like a brocade.
I always thought it was because of mirrors being made of glass and silver-glass being transparent and silver being reflective both seemed to fit for an object that grants invisibility
@@A_literal_zombie and it could absorb the trait of a thestral hair.
New fan theory: All of the powerful magical artifacts were designed and created by goblins and are so easy to make that they don't really care that the wizards keep them, dispite goblin ownership lying with the creators rather than the buyers.
Wizards think all of these artifacts are super rare and hard to make, but it's just because they don't really talk to goblins about anything other than banking
The issue with that is there are ways to remove a charm or spell such as disillusionment. But nothing like that works on the cloak.
I like to imagine it's a mix of thestral hair and silver
How did they make these magical objects?
Me: uh.. magic?
I was wondering if the Huffel Cup can do what you can't do with magic? Whereas magic can not create something from nothing, maybe the Cup can create Food from nothing?!!!
The scene where J says “Nailed it” makes me laugh a little bit.
Idk why but me too
I've always just assumed the locket literally just has a "regular" portrait of Slytherin in it, and since he can speak parceltongue and knows where his own chamber of secrets so it wouldn't really need any additional magic for any of that
I like the idea, it seems plausible. However i would imagine that there is more to them than just harvesting the raw materials. There might be certain enchantments done to the invisibility cloak to to change the power to be permanent. The same goes for the stone, maybe there is some sort of alchemical procedure you do to a thestral bezoar in order to create a resurrection stone
For standard cloaks either the material fails or the enchantment. So I think you are right in thinking it might be unique because the mix of both.
The unique material used wouldn’t naturally wear away, and the even more magical nature would better hold the enchantments.
4:02 "And right there🧍♂️" got me cackling!
14:53: Aren't Thestrals carnivores? I mean those can produce bezoars, but I don't think they stay long enough to get to the "stone" stage since the animal expells them through the mouth. And they usually made mostly out of hair and maybe bones. Not quite like the description.
So still going off of your theory it's now my head cannon that the second brother used a uniquely large Thestral kidney stone to make the resurrection stone.
For the "bezoar" theory, I think it best to give it a lot more wiggle room. A bezoar is specifically a stone taken from the stomach of a goat. If the RS is a stone taken from a thestral, it need not be so precisely analogous. It could be a thestral kidney stone, or a stone taken from any other part of the thestral's body. It could be a hard bone, or a piece of a bone of a thestral. Or maybe even a fossilized piece of thestral flesh. There are many possible ways a stone might be gathered from a thestral. Any one of which could be magical, or at least be able to have the appropriate magical properties placed upon it.
Yes thestrals are carnivores specifically requiring fresh and bloody meat and no a thestral has a tough hide that looks like leather that hangs in such a way as to reveal the bone structure think of a freshly decomposing pegasus and that is the closest you'll get to a thestral description. Also yeah thestrals are quite capable of creating bezoars perhaps with a rarity rarer than goatkind.
@@PhilBagels According to wikipedia it's not specific to goats. It's an umbrella term. From a goat it would be a phytobezoar. From flesh eating animals it would be a pilobezoar. Of cause it could be that indian dude first to describe it had it from a goat.
But yeah, the brother could have taken it from a lot of thestral parts I guess.
i feel like it was never a bezoar from a thestral, it was an eye because it really ties in with the rule that you need to SEE death in order to SEE thestrals. So if you can see thestrals, it means that you can see dead people...
It is interesting that while we even see some of the students creating magic items such as the potter stinks pins and the DA coins, that we never have any kind of magical item creation class which I feel like would be really helpful. Based on the nature of the magic Charms class seems like it might overlap, but who knows.
An enchantment class would have probably been rainy for the school, do you know the nuke book from dnd? Imagine a class where 1/4 of them made that.
It’s my theory that hogwarts used to offer far more classes but with the recent influx of dark lords like Grindlewald and Tom the professors capable of offering such classes were slaughtered heck divination barely has a class. I like your idea of Advanced Object Enchantment I think I’ll include it with Alchemy, Advanced Magical Healing, and Magizoology
4:08 this is my kind of humor, Ben. This is why I've always been team Ben.😂
Yeah team ben all the way.😂🧑🧑
The resurrection stone and the patronus spell have the most in common. The stone is almost obviously creating an INCREDIBLY powerful version of a patronus. The way I view it is, the stone brought Harry his “family” but they were just part of him, how he views those people. It didn’t actually pull from beyond the Veil, as it were.
Helga's cup turning water into wine basically implies she was sloshed all the time
I mean mighty eagle, brave powerful lion, and the underestimated yet ever dangerous serpent and then there’s hufflepuff. Why a badger? Why, because Helga was royally plastered when selecting her insignia.
I always imagine how filming goes. Just mid sentence: oh whoops sorry, need to scoot over to the left.
A sentence later: oh time to scoot over here.
This is excellent. I had no idea where this was going but wow, the conclusion is brilliant.
Rain ASMR SuperCarlinBrothers episode finally dropped 🌧♥😌😌
As much as I agree with the Bezoar theory, I believe the animal from which it comes is not Thestral. All animals considered IRL, the Bezoar is found only in herbivores such as Goats, Ox, Cattle, etc. Bezoars are made up of undigestible fruits, skins, seeds, etc. Thestrals on the other hand are predators and carnivores and would not produce Bezoars realistically speaking (I understand these are magical creatures and most anything is possible).
That being said, if there were a Bezoar that could magically interact with Death and produce and item that could even put a halt to Death, I believe it would have to come from a Unicorn, and in the Act of procuring the Bezoar, thus killing the Unicorn, it could produce a type of Bezoar that would be extremely rare and very magical in abilities. Upon the death of a fiance, I am sure the 2nd Brother would go to any length, even sacrificing something as beautiful and amazing as a Unicorn that would then only provide something so horrid that it drove him to his own peril.
And the idea of a bezoar were alluded to in the first book, compliments of Snape.
I think the Resurrection Stone has more to it than just a thestral stomach or kidney stone. I think that the second brother created the stone deliberately by feeding a thestral a small piece of the Veil because that wording was very deliberate meaning the Veil has something to do with it. It would also explain why no other RS seem to exist despite it under your idea being fairly simple to recreate, it’s because its creation was deliberate. As for the cloak I would argue that the thestral hair argument makes sense but it’s was powerfully enchanted to remove the exception (those who have seen death) of seeing it so that once activated so no one could see it a simpler solution is simply the best option here. As for the Elder Wand I got nothing here (we know so much yet so little about wand making) as it just seems like the wand was lightning in a bottle that given the same resources to say Ollivander couldn’t be recreated the wand was simple luck as far as we can understand about wand making.
That's just so cool! It opens up so many pathways for more developped stories of the Peverell brothers.
been on a harry potter theory/what if binge the last couple days, impeccable timing
I don't mind the rain, ide love to listen to them talk while the rain poured for hours
Imagine being able to listen to this live with a hot cup of cbc to the sound of the rain outside. Majestic.
Never apologize for rain sounds 😊
Yall should do a video on the meaning of all the patronus options from the wizardingworld website
Imo, the thing about the resurrection stone in Harry's case boils down to the basic strength behind magic that is intent. His intent behind using the stone wasn't to bring back his loved ones and force them to live forever with him. Instead he wanted them to help him with strength so that he could meet Death, or rather his fate/friend, quicker. He wasn't avoiding or refuting the inevitable rather pushing himself further towards it. It is both a testament to his character and the intent with which the stone is used.
I’m so proud of you guys for powering through the rain
Re The Locket - I always assumed that Harry DID know how to open the locket, even if not told to the reader, but just didn't dare until they were ready to destroy it
2:20 Love the addition of a mustache on J in the intro!
Not going to lie bro I've been waiting around all day to do Pokemon go and I just decided to go out and put a poncho in my pocket in case it started raining
get those adventure week challenges done, I believe in you
Not entirely on the topic of the deathly hallows, but on the topic of crazy powerful magical artifacts: I believe that Lupin is actually the most powerful wizard of his generation, maybe even more powerful than Dumbledore, and he’s the reason the a bunch of Highschoolers maneged to make an object more powerful than the founders of Hogwarts themselves. Think about it. We know depression can make people loose there magic, like with Merope Gaunt becoming a squib beacaus of domestic abuse, and Tonks loosing her metamorphosis abilities when Lupin continues to reject her beacaus of how much he hates himself. If there’s one depressed character in the books, it’s Lupin, yet he always seems to be plenty powerful. The only explanation for this is if he would have been crazy powerful if he actually had good mental health. And the time in his life he was happiest was when he had the marauders, and that’s when he was able to reach his full potential and create the map!
Good theory!
@@stevenhumenny816 thank u
The sorting hat is also gryffindors. It is much more his artifact then the sword. It is the means of sorting and can read people's deepest thoughts for that purpose, plus it is sentient in its own right. It's the means for the sword to appear to Gryffindor students, the sword never does this on its own. The sword doesnt really have any magic abilities but the hat truly shows what a magic artifact can be and how good Gryffindor was to have created it. No other artifact in the books shows nearly that level of sentients with the possible exception of pictures/paintings which copy the subjects intelligence but the sorting hat is uniquely it's own.
Early ❤ I love you guys so much. You're doing a great job and I would actually be lost without this channel 😂. Yall deserve all the success in the world. ❤
You guys made a video out of my theory! How exciting! Nice addition to the theory with the bezoar stone too! I wasn't sure what part of the thestral the stone may have been made from. I considered bone or a petrified eye, but a bezoar does seem to fit extremely well too. Great idea, guys!
Don't sell yourself short Ben, that Flitwick impression was spot on. Also, rooting for you that the next generation of Carlin kids pick up snowboarding. Team Snowboard vs Team Ski.
This is the most sensible Theory I've ever heard. The Thestral is really a powerful metaphor for death. It's not something you can see, people have many fears and superstitions about it and those who have experienced the loss of another tend to see Death in a different light.
0:24 As a Virginian (Williamsburg currently but I used to live in Salem/Roanoke near you guys and think I met one or both of you once), I can confirm that this is a crazy storm
*A few years after The Battle of Hogwarts*
Harry: And that's the last anyone will ever see of the resurrection stone
Hagrid, who has 7 Thestral bezores in his cabinets right now: What a marvelous story Harry.
Love this theory. It would even explain the superstition that Thestrals are unlucky. The three brothers saw one and all died soon after, beginning the superstition.
The rain in the background is pretty chill ^^
I love supercarlin brothers, their theorys are great, i listen to all their videos.
Hey Brother!
Scenario for you;
What if in the Competition of the Goblet of Fire, the organizers had tried to rig things, so Harry wouldn’t have had as hard a time in it, at least with the first task if nothing else.
Here’s evidence:
1. According to Newt Scamander in “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them” in the section for Dragons, we learn that Welsh Greens are among the most docile of dragons.
2. In “The Other Minister” Fudge tells the Muggle Prime Minister “We’re importing 3 dragons….” This means that the organizers had already planned on the Horntail, Ridgeback and Chinese Fireball. They needed a 4th dragon. Hence Welsh Green.
pretty sure it was a Welsh Green because that's what they could get on short notice and not import, not for any kind of special treatment for Harry
"and right there", "nailed it"
there is something uniquely funny about this type of gag that just makes me laugh, thanks for that
It's official every time I scroll and I find one of your videos now I just hear in my head
HAAAAYYY BRUTHUUUUURRR
I wish I could hear the rain in the background. That’s a vibe lol
Dear SuperCarlinBorthers , I have a question that goes with this video. If Dumbledore was obsessed with the deathly hallows and wanted to use them to rise to power, is it possible that he made his own hallows? He has made the dilluminator, and one of you theories suggests he made moody’s eye too. If he made hallows that mimic or are similar to the original three what do you think the third is? My personal theory is the mirror of airised if the second brother didn’t make it. Please look into this because I have had this idea since through the griffindoor has come out!
I've been watching since I was little and now that I'm about to finish book 7 I enjoy these more than ever. Thank you.
Yall have the coolest theories on the wizarding world.
I actually think Death did it. Was it my DnD/Pathfinder Character? No, but it would be cool if it was. That being said, this is an excellent in-universe way of describing it in a not meeting God moment.
I didn't come into this expecting an argument I would understand, good job 👍🏾
Oh no! A Ben hosted video about Harry Potter with a RAIN soundtrack!!!!! What will we ever do?
But seriously, you could put rain sounds in the back of every video and I would love that very much ❤
This is a theory I’ve thought about immensely
Love the mustache added to the intro : p nicely subtle
its a good day when supercarlinbrothers drop, make my day
In the "15 Questions We Both Missed" (or more precisely, "14 HP Questions + 'How Many Potential Questions Could Have Been Here'") quiz, one of the questions was effectively "how did Lily/Hermione get her Hogwarts letter." The answer was "[it would be] hand-delivered by a staff member," but in each case, which member seems the most likely to do this? And (and this isn't part of the JvB) here's my question: how would the family be able to get to the Cauldron and/or Diagon Alley? Would the letter to the family have, say, the *adjacent* buildings to the Cauldron? What would these letters have that Harry's didn't? If the literal "magic gene" was indeed genetic, (for example, Harry/Neville) then I guess the children would notice, hence why it probably wouldn't be in the letter. Of course in the case of Harry specifically, he's been separated from the Wizarding World for... 9 3/4 years (look at that- it's the platform number!) so it takes Hagrid for Harry to notice the Cauldron.
I m pretty sure to be the first person to have created this theory and posted it several times in comments on your videos and ig messages. Wether you took it from there or came out as an idea of yours I m glad it has finally come to be a video!
“speciality” I love you Ben
The locket seems to share some characteristics with the sorting hat, e.g. the ability to examine a person's inner self
⚠️Off topic from video, day twenty of asking for what ifs⚠️
1: What if Dudley went to Hogwarts? I think he'd be a Hufflepuff and be pretty good at defense against the dark arts and I think it would be fun to have him be good at divination cause none of the golden trio are good at or even seem to respect it.
2: What if Aang died with the other Air nomads and one of the other main characters eventually became the Avatar? I think the most interesting would be Sokka and Zuko.
3: What if Prim became the Mockingjay? The only way I see this happening is if Katniss gets caught hunting and either gets killed or sent to the Capital and becomes an avox, a year or two before Prims game so she gets some survival skills not as good as Katniss but better than nothing.
4: So this one is kinda out there maybe it would be fun to do as a April fools thing or something I don't know but here we go... What if you guys made a Harry Potter crossover? Only crossovers with stuff that could feasibly exist in the Harry Potter world, the first ones that pop into my mind is Percy Jackson, Buffy the vampire slayer, BBC's Merlin maybe Supernatural the last one I'm less sure but you get the point like I said this last suggestion is very out there and I don't expect it to go anywhere.
5: There's a lot of fanfic out there where Harry is raised by someone who are not the Dursley's I definitely think you guys should do a full what if for that concept I find the most interesting being Harry is raised by Snape.
6: Here's a what if that could potentially keep Yue alive but also have her more involved in the story and I think be a pretty interesting story to follow, what before Zuko got banished the fire lord and Yue's father had arranged marriage planned for the two? The water tribe agrees out of a desperation to not get attacked the fire nation is doing it to have control over the water tribe the idea is that the two are essentially already married but haven't had the ceremony yet but this means when Zuko gets banished Yue gets banished with him she can't even go to her tribe cause the fire nation could use it as an excuse to attack.
I’m here for this. Looking forward to the video. Another Harry Potter theory, after all this time…
Question: Do Thestrals even have hairs? Where do the wand makers get them from; what part of a Thestral has hair?
Thanks so much for all your wonderful videos, theories and quizzes!
Tail, like horses
thank you for this video i’ve been waiting for this video exactly
This channel has done multiple “what if” in the Harry Potter fandom, and they have been amazing fun!
With that in mind, I’d love to know their take on a different fandom’s “what if”. What if Anakin had told Yoda about Palpatine instead of Windu?
Or even the Avatar the Last Airbender what if: What if Zuko was sailing the North instead of the South when Aang was found?
6:06 it’s parseltongue. Parselmouth is someone who speaks parseltongue.
i was waiting for this to actuallly uploaded asap
2:30 Greetings from Spain, I'll be waiting for you guys to make a tour around here
Hey brother! Refreshed YT just in time! 🔥🔥❤️❤️
15:04 😳 what a theory Ben!
My take is that when the Brothers met "Death" just means they encountered a dying Thestral and used its body for what became the Deathly Hallows.
"and right there" was the best edit xD
Good video so far, but just have to say the picture quality is insane!
J HAS A MOUSTACHE IN THE INTRO!😮
On Harry's invisibility cloak being different from normal ones: another thing to point out is that at one point someone (I can't remember for sure but I think it was Snape) tried to use Accio on the cloak when Harry was wearing it and it did nothing.
wait, i know you have the theory about moody's eye being grindelwald's but what if it is simply the eye of a dead person, and if you remove it soon enough and enchant it then it works. and now that is why he can see through the cloak
I wish you guys would pick up Skulduggery Pleasant. I’d love to hear your takes/theories on true names and magical disciplines.
Sorry this has nothing to do with the video, but could someone confirm this.. Hermione brews Polyjuice Potion in her 2nd year. It takes nearly a month. The end result is 6 mouthfuls of potion (Harry, Ron, Hermione drink 2 mouthfuls each) with lasts a total of 3 hours. Barty Crouch was drinking this potion on the hour every hour for a year. 1 recipe = 6 mouthfuls aka 3 hours. Say he slept 6 hours a night (assuming he didn't wake up to take it) that's 18 hours awake, he needs to multiply the recipe 6 times every day to have enough potion. So 6 batches of Polyjuice potion per day. The recipe calls for 4 leeches. 4x6 = 24 leeches per day. The recipe calls for "3 measures of boomslang skin " (according to HP wiki) thats 3 x 6 = 18 measures of Boomslang skin per day. ... I could go on and on. It seems like a lot to eat per day, not to mention hard to source ingredients, and expensive. Somethings fishy..
Building on this theory-
Middle brothers bride was murdered in front of brothers (hence they witnessed death, could see thestrals). Once they saw thestral, they were amazed, decided to check their magical properties and created hallows (thestral objects and their magic abilities). Oldest brother, regretting of not able to protect his family, seeked revenge to person who killed his brothers bride. and that story follows as is..
Middle brother followed story as is.
Youngest - was traumatised and wanted to hide from murderer who killed middle brothers bride.
Also - i would swap beezor for thestral eye. see death and stuff.
The cloak could be crafted from a blend of both thestral and demiguise hair. This could make the cloak grant invisibility, as with standard demiguise cloaks, but the addition of the thestral hair could act to augment the properties of the cloak by making the demiguise hair more resilient. There may even be a bit of unicorn hair for good measure to add resistance to spells as Harry's cloak cannot be summoned while in use and seems to render detection spells ineffective.
Personally, I think the rain sound should be in every video on TH-cam.
1:08 Did Ben say "first wizarding World?
Maybe the fiance literally died on that "lonely road" where they then saw a thestral
Have you guys done a video on how the first horcrux was made? I’d love to hear your thoughts!!
This is a very good theory story.
Had to pause and take just a brief moment to type out THANK YOU SO MUCH for these videos but especially this one today. This election term and all the hoopla with it has become so stressful and toxic and some good harry potter theory and lore is EXACTLY what the doctor ordered, along with a dab. So just yeah know your work is GREATLY appreciated. changed the whole vibe back to good
Well... I'm sold! Again! 😂
Unrelated, but the clip of Aragog struck me just now... The fact that his body is where he is when Harry and Professor Slughorn find him means that just before he died he used the last of his will to come visit Hagrid. That's kind of heartbreaking.
There are two other possibilities: Hagrid knew that Aragog had died or was dying and waded into his hollow to bring his body out for some reason, or that Aragog's children brought his body to Hagrid. I feel that either of these is unlikely.
I believe the resurrection stone is made from twin cores both placed slightly off center in the bezor of a thestral. When you turn the stone in your hand the cores twist together until they produce the prioriy incontatem effect which is contained by the "stone" allowing it to safely create the "light of the dead" but as it is contained within a thestral bezor the projection is more misty and cloaked as if hidden by a vail, a shade.
bro i’m loving these vids!! ❤❤❤
I always loved the HPMOR theory on these objects out of various aspects of thestral. Like the elder wand is a thestral core wand, and the true cloak of invisibility is woven thestral and enchanted with thestral blood. Its uncertain how the stone is related though.
Sclera of the eye? For a thestral, Its hard and small?
It allows the holder to SEE their past away loved ones again.
@@charlottemunday7311 ooooooh thats a good one.
We forgot one of the Founders magical artifacts! The Sorting Hat!
Awesome as always thanks guys ❤
Would like to hear your thoughts on how Moody’s eye could see through the invisibility cloak.
This is an awesome find about the ring possibly being a bezoar
The movie relics look great but I like having a canon book version of the artifacts more 😄😄