A Rivalry Born from Violence: Brighton vs Crystal Palace

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  • To outsiders, the only word for the M23 derby is “strange.” Because, despite being in different cities, having a short history together, and rarely competing for trophies, Brighton and Crystal Palace form one of the EFL’s fiercest rivalries. The story between these two sides appears to be one born from necessity. To see what I mean, be sure to watch the whole video. We will take a deeper look at this rivalry, including the history of the M23 derby, how the M23 derby impacted fans and football culture, and how these two sides match up head-to-head.
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    ⏱ Timestamps
    00:00 Why Brighton and Crystal Palace Are Rivals
    01:02 The Mullery-Venables Era
    02:26 The Point Of No Return
    05:02 Brighton vs Crystal Palace Highlights
    06:09 Standout M23 Derby Players
    08:44 Modern Day Rivals
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  • @culturefootball
    @culturefootball  ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @terryb8310
    @terryb8310 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    No Palace or Brighton fans call it the M23 derby.... Massive fail to call it that .... a Sky TV fail!

    • @oceanmike8516
      @oceanmike8516 ปีที่แล้ว

      A23 not m23

    • @AlphaDaxter1
      @AlphaDaxter1 ปีที่แล้ว

      what do they call it?

    • @terryb8310
      @terryb8310 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@AlphaDaxter1 At Palace we don't call it anything....its just a rivalry !
      We hate the Weed!

    • @terryb8310
      @terryb8310 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oceanmike8516 Its not called A23 anything !

    • @CabbageBloke
      @CabbageBloke ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@AlphaDaxter1 It’s a rivalry not a derby.
      Not a single fan from either club will call it a derby.

  • @kuen-wahcheung1863
    @kuen-wahcheung1863 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Quite a good overview. Some important omissions, though. You missed out the 'FFS Murray' moment when Palace handed Brighton their first league defeat at the Amex with Glenn scoring. Plus Henry Hughton ending Gerry Ryan's career, with his brother Chris ending up managing the Seagulls. And the pre-season 'friendly' that kicked things off when Palace fans caused havoc on an unsuspecting seaside town. And how 'Seagulls' became Brighton's nickname after Eagles became Palace's.

  • @andiboiiii1954
    @andiboiiii1954 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video can’t wait to see the future of this channel

  • @TheSeafordian
    @TheSeafordian ปีที่แล้ว +15

    NO Brighton fan considers Murray as their best ever player.

    • @nickwhite1182
      @nickwhite1182 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bob Zamora for me

    • @oceanmike8516
      @oceanmike8516 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you sick? Zamora, Dickinson and Vincente are ahead of him for me. In the premier league? Glenn Murray for sure.

  • @Blueblackfire
    @Blueblackfire ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Keep it up! This channel will definitely grow!

  • @MapleLeafsarecanadasteam
    @MapleLeafsarecanadasteam ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great videos, with this quality your channel will grow quick

  • @ayno6891
    @ayno6891 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great series
    great channel
    keep up my friend

  • @DavolafShorts
    @DavolafShorts ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video! i see this channel growing fast

  • @wrexham2
    @wrexham2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The rivalry started well before the game at Stamford Bridge, I was at the original tie at the Goldstone and it was already alive and kicking. M23 derby is just silly, as we nearly always went by "Special" or another train.
    Charlton have just as much a rivalry with Palace, it's just we have difficulty meeting them. Mind The Gap.

  • @SirNilooo
    @SirNilooo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Club America Vs Chivas de Guadalajara 😁✌🏽
    Awesome content by the way! Shoutouts from Los Angeles!

  • @juliuscaesar8163
    @juliuscaesar8163 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love your vids!

  • @A2G37
    @A2G37 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great channel lad
    are you gonna do only english club rivalries
    or teams from other leagues too?

    • @culturefootball
      @culturefootball  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll cover other leagues as well. Vote on the next video tomorrow in the community tab!

  • @PeeaaaK
    @PeeaaaK ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video mate keep it up! You should do Millwall vs West Ham, probably one of the most fierce and violent rivalry in English Football.

    • @culturefootball
      @culturefootball  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the suggestion! I'll keep this in mind.

    • @PeeaaaK
      @PeeaaaK ปีที่แล้ว

      @@culturefootball Thanks bro!

    • @GlimpseHC
      @GlimpseHC ปีที่แล้ว

      Millwall are scum

    • @evonne_o
      @evonne_o ปีที่แล้ว

      It is the most violent as I found out when I was working as a Millwall football steward in the late 90s /00s. I was almost attacked by West Ham because I was working at Millwall even I support Arsenal...Also could include Leeds fans as they hated any one who is associated with Millwall on any capacity.

    • @PeeaaaK
      @PeeaaaK ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evonne_o Milwall fans are just different man, crazy level of Hooligans! 🤣🤣

  • @user-yc4lq8uo9o
    @user-yc4lq8uo9o ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi mate good video. Can you do the Tyne Wear derby next please

  • @pineapple2285
    @pineapple2285 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Roy’s thankfully brought us back, also never heard the term M23 derby before, interesting.

    • @Cheeseatingjunlista
      @Cheeseatingjunlista ปีที่แล้ว

      Why Roy is so great cannot be explained by science, he must be, and I thank facts prove he is, simply fucking Magic. Sod Hgpwarts, the REAL wizards in SE25!!!

    • @joshrobson2119
      @joshrobson2119 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Cheeseatingjunlistastill back this now fella 😂😂

  • @kevina9094
    @kevina9094 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Before Brighton, Millwall would have been the main rivals for Palace (even though Millwall dislike West Ham more). Even today there's many palace fans who still consider Millwall as their main rival seeing as they are the closest club to palace.

    • @Cheeseatingjunlista
      @Cheeseatingjunlista ปีที่แล้ว

      I live in Peckham, half way between em, you're one or the other really, Palace or a C*nt, its up to you

  • @notgaryhart1312
    @notgaryhart1312 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The M23 doesn’t run from Brighton to Croydon, but the A23 does. It’s not the M23 Derby!

  • @Der_Kaiser1871
    @Der_Kaiser1871 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perhaps Leeds vs quite a few clubs? There's a reason over 1/3rd of the clubs in England chant 'We all hate Leeds scum', and as a Leeds fan myself I think it'd be a great video. Also very underrated channel, loved this and the North London Derby video. Keep up the good work!

    • @culturefootball
      @culturefootball  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a good suggestion! Who do you think your biggest rivals are?

    • @Der_Kaiser1871
      @Der_Kaiser1871 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@culturefootball Maybe not too reciprocal from them, but definitely Man Utd. Some of the Yorkshire derby's like Huddersfield or Sheffield also up there. Chelsea too.

    • @GlimpseHC
      @GlimpseHC ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Der_Kaiser1871 also hull

    • @Der_Kaiser1871
      @Der_Kaiser1871 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GlimpseHC True, forgot Hull. That rivalry even extends to Rugby as well with the Leeds Rhinos and Hull FC/Kingston Rovers.

    • @GlimpseHC
      @GlimpseHC ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Der_Kaiser1871 it’s an underatted rivalry which people hate on but when se play you it is a good rivalry hull fc and hull kr are main rivalry in rugby but I guess Leeds aswell

  • @niclin22
    @niclin22 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Schalke - Dortmund next!

  • @timbhaovard1327
    @timbhaovard1327 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tommy Cook is the top scorer with 123 goals

  • @prod.by.marshyyy
    @prod.by.marshyyy ปีที่แล้ว

    can you do wone with luton and watford! (m1 derby)it is derby day tomorrow ! come on luton

    • @culturefootball
      @culturefootball  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the suggestion! I'll add it to the list. Make sure to vote on video topics in the community tab.

  • @stripey_nigel
    @stripey_nigel ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmmm, quite a few errors here, especially the pic of Gareth Southgate taking a penalty in his England shirt supposedly at Stamford bridge in 1976😂

  • @Wolfsong27FlyHalfFullHeart
    @Wolfsong27FlyHalfFullHeart ปีที่แล้ว

    And now look at us the seagulls vs the eagles in the premiership league the only other clubs that had a fierce rivalry was West Ham and millwall although there’s a chance to see them face each other again if West Ham get relegated this season

  • @NorthamptonEagle
    @NorthamptonEagle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This isn't and will never be a Derby.... It's revaily and I think you find that both Brighton & Palace will say that too!

    • @alliancekoh
      @alliancekoh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Learn how to spell 'rivalry' before telling us the meaning

  • @cal-efc8062
    @cal-efc8062 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:50 Goodison Park

  • @dailotan
    @dailotan ปีที่แล้ว

    No, zaha is not palaces second highest all time scorer - he’s 10th. May want to avoid referring to sites like transfer markt

    • @KaizoCPFC
      @KaizoCPFC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is he?! Who’s above him then???

    • @KaizoCPFC
      @KaizoCPFC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where do I check?

  • @paulwyatt3772
    @paulwyatt3772 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's not the M23 Derby that's what sky tv have said.

  • @ankushkar3364
    @ankushkar3364 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    W vids

  • @rebekahleech5354
    @rebekahleech5354 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤️🦅💙

  • @daavide
    @daavide ปีที่แล้ว

    this channel is gonna be sick

  • @Raef125
    @Raef125 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe do Barcelona and Real Madrid

    • @culturefootball
      @culturefootball  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the suggestion! El Clasico short coming out today!

  • @Alfie.08
    @Alfie.08 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    liverpool and everton?

    • @culturefootball
      @culturefootball  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A classic rivalry. Definitely going to cover it in the future.

  • @josiahgreen-moth4820
    @josiahgreen-moth4820 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do west ham millwall

    • @culturefootball
      @culturefootball  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the suggestion! I'll add it to the list. Make sure to vote on video topics in the community tab.

  • @shmiqqy
    @shmiqqy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    don't think you've done your research properly
    you keep calling it the m23 derby, the m23 derby isn't strange to outsiders, it's stupid to "insiders" too, brighton doesn't even have the m23 it's the a23 we don't even have a motorway
    and you put zaha on the thumbnail but not lewis dunk for brighton? did you only put march because he's a bigger name at the minute?

    • @culturefootball
      @culturefootball  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you’re curious about my sources, they are linked in the description.

  • @user-gy7og5yh2s
    @user-gy7og5yh2s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did he say palace dont have any other rivalries 😂😂 what about Charlton and millwall??

  • @hctaylor279
    @hctaylor279 ปีที่แล้ว

    Murray isn’t our best ever player, that would be dunk, knockaert, Bissouma ot Peter Ward

  • @rickycook1967
    @rickycook1967 ปีที่แล้ว

    Turned this off after you said the rivalry started in 76 , it started in a pre season friendly in 73 , at least check your information and not spout more 76 nonsense .

    • @culturefootball
      @culturefootball  ปีที่แล้ว

      You might want to watch the video again

    • @paddygladman9923
      @paddygladman9923 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very true, I was in the northland when palace wanker got in there

  • @cheifwhat
    @cheifwhat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Palace fan, I would suggest that Palace Brighton is perhaps one of the least fierce rivalrys in all of football, globally. It's pretty much just for the telly. I quite like Brighton at the moment and hope they get top four.

    • @culturefootball
      @culturefootball  ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you think that's a recent thing or do you think it's generally not fierce?

    • @alfiegrove7233
      @alfiegrove7233 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its better than most southern rivalries or derbies, shite compared to rest of europe.

    • @BT-sj9su
      @BT-sj9su ปีที่แล้ว

      Your joking🤣🤣

    • @jjrc7424
      @jjrc7424 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@culturefootball don't listen to him i'm a palace fan and it's a massive rivalry, he's clearly never been to one of the matches

    • @pineapple2285
      @pineapple2285 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BT-sj9su you’re*

  • @smmm6691
    @smmm6691 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    rivalry has definitely died down with younger fans caring less. also palace vs charlton was always a bigger game

    • @ManUtdfanshavetinypenises
      @ManUtdfanshavetinypenises ปีที่แล้ว

      Palace and Brighton is a rivarly. It's an ego thing and loads of these fans don't even go to games

    • @PHTV11
      @PHTV11 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's bigger for Brighton than us simply because they have no local rivals of relevance.

  • @pauljamison4450
    @pauljamison4450 ปีที่แล้ว

    what a load off bollocks it started 2 years before that.

  • @CARLIN4737
    @CARLIN4737 ปีที่แล้ว

    AAAAAAAAAAlbion.

  • @CARLIN4737
    @CARLIN4737 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    AAAAAAAAAAAAlbbbbbion...

  • @TheLittlegoaty
    @TheLittlegoaty 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a Palace fan I don't really care too much about Brighton and the "rivalry" that's been manufactured. I'd rather lose to Brighton than the other London clubs.

  • @cglees
    @cglees 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The rivalry exists because of the Victorian exodus from south London to Brighton when the train line was built.

  • @eagle_rb_mmoomin_418
    @eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is rubbish because it's misses out the Playoff semi final poogate incident.

    • @KaizoCPFC
      @KaizoCPFC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh my god i forgot about that

  • @AJFootballOFFICIAL
    @AJFootballOFFICIAL ปีที่แล้ว

    Liverpool and man city are not rivals

    • @ManUtdfanshavetinypenises
      @ManUtdfanshavetinypenises ปีที่แล้ว

      That I can agree with

    • @KaizoCPFC
      @KaizoCPFC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There like, friendly rivals. Always competing with eachother and the managers have a rivalry but the fans don’t have any issues with eachother

  • @mattwright9485
    @mattwright9485 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brokeback derby.🤣🤣
    Get out of his back side.

  • @Chris-yx8gj
    @Chris-yx8gj ปีที่แล้ว

    Brighton were never rivals with Crystal Palace. Their rivals are Portsmouth. OK.
    That statement comes from a supporter older than most fans nowadays. So yes Fake Fake Fake.

    • @stuartb1963
      @stuartb1963 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Chris your clearly not a Brighton supporter Pompey have never been our rival's for them it's the saints and no Albion supporter I've ever met considers Pompey to be our rivals

    • @shmiqqy
      @shmiqqy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lol why would portsmouth be our rivals they've got their own thing with saints

    • @Chris-yx8gj
      @Chris-yx8gj ปีที่แล้ว

      @south saxon Check your football history. Why Portsmouth. Because they historically were in lower divisions. Portsmouth spent lots of time in the Second division while Brighton spent a lot of years in the third division. Argue with me at will. Because I know I was there.

    • @stuartb1963
      @stuartb1963 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Chris-yx8gj sorry you weren't and don't know what your talking about I'm a third generation Brighton supporter and started attending the Goldstone in the 70s

    • @timphillips9954
      @timphillips9954 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I first saw the Albion in 1972 and we never saw Pompi as a rival, but we or I have always hated Palace!

  • @muzza2096
    @muzza2096 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rangers celtic is a huge one