Tha ks for this, and your other videos on waterproof ink 🔏 for the EcoTank. My experience is that colour inks (made of dyes) are not waterproof, while black document inks (using the "document" settings rather than photo settings) are often pigment inks. These are a bit more water resistant, while not fully waterproof. Maybe this is what happened with your printout. The red dye (and the blue ink in your dunking video for Charlie in USA PNW) smudged and diluted in water, while the pigment ink used in the text performed better. I am on the lookout for waterproof inks that don't break the bank (👀 looking at you, Epson DuraBrite!). The EcoTank could be a good option. Thanks for your experimental spirit, this was very useful!
Thanks Berolina for your helpful comment. What you say makes a good deal of sense and I'm sure it'll help other people who read your words. Thanks so much for taking the time to add your feedback. All the best, Andy.
Ha! This is great! Thanks Andy. I've never been mentioned in a TH-cam video before (other than my own!) I'm honored that you took the time to do this. And yes, it definitely answers my question. Thanks so much. Daniela
No problem - you're welcome. The paper/card stock that's used is probably most important. Looking today, the card I used in the video has some subtle smudging on it, however the 80gsm paper has dried out and looks fine. I only left the card to dry for 15 mins after printing, so assuming that the 80gsm paper would've dried faster this leads me to believe that if I'd left the card longer before sloshing water on it then it would have been OK today too. Andy
Hi Andy good videos on this printer thanks. I just set up my new ET-4550 yesterday. I've been trying to find a video using this printer for envelopes and smaller photo paper, as in the paper tray adjustment and any tips you might have. I have lots of 4x6 photo paper I use for recipe cards and pictures.
Thanks for the positive feedback. Glad you enjoyed the videos. Paper handling could be better in the 4550, however it does work. I bought some A4 photo sheets and have been printing to those rather than smaller dedicated sizes. Pages 44 to 50 in the user guide explain how to put paper in correctly using the edge guides in the tray: files.support.epson.com/docid/cpd4/cpd42924.pdf Hope that helps. :-) Andy
Hi Thanks for sharing. this is the thing that I look for.. I will buy another ekotank epson model but I think they use same quality ink( maybe excatly the same ink🤔)
Hi @SuperPicasso05 Someone sent me a message to say that their experiences with newer EcoTanks weren't as successful as mine - however that's just one isolated comment. It's not perfect, however with a little water on decent paper it would survive! As with all of these things, how much you can put up with depends on your own circumstances. I have another video where I did a full dunk test in a bucket of water so check that out too! Thanks for your feedback, I'm pleased you found it helpful. Regards, Andy.
@@MrDvneil That's a fair point and one I make in the follow up video where I do the full dunk test. There's lots of variables here - ink, paper, coverage, just how "waterproof" you really want something to be... Everyone's mileage will, to a certain degree, vary. Thanks for your feedback!
@@TheRamblyChannel got today the epson 7750 ecotank, and it has black pigmented, and 3 colorant colors, tested with water and they run out on cardstock, 2 kind of watercolor paper, quite easy, a bit less on regular sheet paper (it does the same but instead of running to the sides, it goes through the paper and appears at the other side). Yellow is pretty staining, black is waterproof, the one that runs out with water is the red, and then the blue. Anyways for someone that is going to do any kind of wet art on top, needs pigmented waterproof ink.
Andy thank you so much. But how about the test prints? Are they as good as laser? We are looking to put an ET-16500 in our office and it's hard to decide. The other question is whether the print head cab be blocked if we are not using it for one or two weeks during the holidays etc.?!!! By the way than you so much for the test.
Hi Mehrdad. I had a colour laser printer many years ago. The sharpness of any inkjet will never be quite as good as laser in my opinion, however the running costs of the colour laser were massive! Everyone's mileage will vary. If you use your printer enough and can justify the cost of toner then a colour laser is worth considering, however most people don't print huge amounts so the slightly (and I mean very slightly) lower quality of inkjet is a fair compromise as they're so much cheaper to run - especially the EcoTank models that are cheap as chips. I can't comment on the ET-16500 as I'm not familiar with it. I also have no idea about extended periods where the printer isn't used, however I found leaving my ET-4550 switched off and unused for several days both during a holiday and an office move didn't cause me any issues at all. I hope that helps. Andy
Tha ks for this, and your other videos on waterproof ink 🔏 for the EcoTank. My experience is that colour inks (made of dyes) are not waterproof, while black document inks (using the "document" settings rather than photo settings) are often pigment inks. These are a bit more water resistant, while not fully waterproof. Maybe this is what happened with your printout. The red dye (and the blue ink in your dunking video for Charlie in USA PNW) smudged and diluted in water, while the pigment ink used in the text performed better. I am on the lookout for waterproof inks that don't break the bank (👀 looking at you, Epson DuraBrite!). The EcoTank could be a good option. Thanks for your experimental spirit, this was very useful!
Thanks Berolina for your helpful comment. What you say makes a good deal of sense and I'm sure it'll help other people who read your words. Thanks so much for taking the time to add your feedback. All the best, Andy.
Ha! This is great! Thanks Andy. I've never been mentioned in a TH-cam video before (other than my own!) I'm honored that you took the time to do this. And yes, it definitely answers my question. Thanks so much. Daniela
No problem - you're welcome. The paper/card stock that's used is probably most important. Looking today, the card I used in the video has some subtle smudging on it, however the 80gsm paper has dried out and looks fine. I only left the card to dry for 15 mins after printing, so assuming that the 80gsm paper would've dried faster this leads me to believe that if I'd left the card longer before sloshing water on it then it would have been OK today too. Andy
Thank you! I bought this printer recently- ( didn’t get it yet) and now I’m even more evicted to get it.👍😊🌺
Thanks Penelope. So pleased you enjoyed the video. Thanks for your feedback. 😊
Hi Andy good videos on this printer thanks. I just set up my new ET-4550 yesterday. I've been trying to find a video using this printer for envelopes and smaller photo paper, as in the paper tray adjustment and any tips you might have. I have lots of 4x6 photo paper I use for recipe cards and pictures.
Thanks for the positive feedback. Glad you enjoyed the videos.
Paper handling could be better in the 4550, however it does work. I bought some A4 photo sheets and have been printing to those rather than smaller dedicated sizes. Pages 44 to 50 in the user guide explain how to put paper in correctly using the edge guides in the tray: files.support.epson.com/docid/cpd4/cpd42924.pdf
Hope that helps. :-)
Andy
Hi
Thanks for sharing. this is the thing that I look for.. I will buy another ekotank epson model but I think they use same quality ink( maybe excatly the same ink🤔)
Hi @SuperPicasso05 Someone sent me a message to say that their experiences with newer EcoTanks weren't as successful as mine - however that's just one isolated comment. It's not perfect, however with a little water on decent paper it would survive! As with all of these things, how much you can put up with depends on your own circumstances. I have another video where I did a full dunk test in a bucket of water so check that out too! Thanks for your feedback, I'm pleased you found it helpful. Regards, Andy.
@@TheRamblyChannel inks are more or less waterpoof depending on the paper too, the porosity and structure of the paper.
@@MrDvneil That's a fair point and one I make in the follow up video where I do the full dunk test. There's lots of variables here - ink, paper, coverage, just how "waterproof" you really want something to be... Everyone's mileage will, to a certain degree, vary. Thanks for your feedback!
@@TheRamblyChannel got today the epson 7750 ecotank, and it has black pigmented, and 3 colorant colors, tested with water and they run out on cardstock, 2 kind of watercolor paper, quite easy, a bit less on regular sheet paper (it does the same but instead of running to the sides, it goes through the paper and appears at the other side). Yellow is pretty staining, black is waterproof, the one that runs out with water is the red, and then the blue. Anyways for someone that is going to do any kind of wet art on top, needs pigmented waterproof ink.
Andy thank you so much. But how about the test prints? Are they as good as laser? We are looking to put an ET-16500 in our office and it's hard to decide.
The other question is whether the print head cab be blocked if we are not using it for one or two weeks during the holidays etc.?!!!
By the way than you so much for the test.
Hi Mehrdad. I had a colour laser printer many years ago. The sharpness of any inkjet will never be quite as good as laser in my opinion, however the running costs of the colour laser were massive! Everyone's mileage will vary. If you use your printer enough and can justify the cost of toner then a colour laser is worth considering, however most people don't print huge amounts so the slightly (and I mean very slightly) lower quality of inkjet is a fair compromise as they're so much cheaper to run - especially the EcoTank models that are cheap as chips.
I can't comment on the ET-16500 as I'm not familiar with it. I also have no idea about extended periods where the printer isn't used, however I found leaving my ET-4550 switched off and unused for several days both during a holiday and an office move didn't cause me any issues at all.
I hope that helps.
Andy
Hi Andy,
Thank you so much for your help. I really appreciate it.
Regards