RIP Palm. Palm Pre was my very first smartphone. It paved the way for all modern smartphones. Wireless charging, multitasking cards, gestures, apps. It had it all.
It took us years of fighting to standardize and get everyone on board with the 3.5mm jack. But 9 years later.. here we are. Because of morons touting "courage".
Maxwell J This phone isn't Android is webOS, the notifications and the task manager in both iOS and android came from this OS, is a shame what the idiots from HP did to this OS.
Back in the early 2000s this is what I thought phones would do, get smaller and faster. Even when the iPhone came out in 07 I never dreamed that screens would get so HUGE!
Imagine if they revamped this little boy with 2016 specs... My goodness how much more if it's waterproof I bet every athletes and enthusiasts would have one
this was a great little phone. Despised being on AT&T, so my time with it was short. Playing with it now, it's slow as molasses but the form factor, build quality, and size definitely had promise. Plug was pulled too soon on webOS.
@@outrageous5363 Wait. My mother uses a very old feature phone and does not even know what CPU is. And anyway some smartphones with one core are still quite useful
I think all this "you need this adaptor for charging" and "this adaptor for plugging in a headset" crap rules this out for me, which is a pity. Still, I LOVE my HP Pre 2 (I have 2) and will just get the Pre 3 when it's out. Thanks for sharing and the review, very interesting to see what's out there and just how you small you can make these things!
Lots of interest here judging by the comments. Which means people want smaller phones again? Could be the next "big" thing for the future. I kinda wish there would be an updated version of the HTC Aria with a 3.5inch screen (same as old iphones)
+JasnoGT I love big screens actually. This Veer is just so small that it's a refreshing thing to see after all the new giant phones. I like that it's so tiny, I kind of want it as a collector's item
So small they couldn't fit a 3.5 mm Jack and micro usb part? More like they didn't have the technology at the time to do so. I have a 5.1 mm thin phone, WAY WAY thinner than this phone and it has both those ports.
One thing I've noticed in your videos is that the sound passes from the left to the right speaker throughout the video, it kinda freaks me out a bit and makes it hard to listen too :/ Maybe you could make your videos in mono? It's very off putting in otherwise great videos.
Been looking for a small touch screen MP3 player for running (not a fan of iTunes so Apple is a no-go). I think this will do. How is its music playing? Does this have Bluetooth? Can I connect my wireless headphones to it?
@mimibuick You forgot to mention that is the price without a phone contract. From $99 with contract or $450 without contract to $55 is practically a fire sale. Accessories for the phone are selling at 2 for $5. HP announced on Aug 18, 2011 that they are pulling out from the hardware business. They simply wants to get rid of the inventory. Those who sell on eBay are going to make a lot of money.
About talking non-smartphones we have a Samsung GT-C3300K , not an overclock version✌ ) and it have 2.4" display with 240x320 pixels. Bought it at 2010 year. STILL working like new phone and also it have VERY LONG lasting battery!
Interesting return to form for the mobile phone market. It reminds of when new phones used to be smaller than the phone they were replacing. I wonder if the slow boot is indicative of performance in general.
I wish those conductive charging ports become standardized. give it as an alternative to micro USB (USB still takes priority though). It's very useful especially for charging on my Nexus 10
Had this I think my freshman year of high school and it was super cute but problematic because the touch screen would stop working in the middle of using applications and it would send me into a panic
I'm not sure if you obtained your new phone, although the Palm Pre Plus is quite affordable right now and I believe it looks immensely better than the Pre 2 and Pre 3. I know there's some controversy on which was was the last phone made by Palm, although I still believe it was the Palm Pre Plus...
Although predictive swipe-typing is altogether fantastic, I occasionally miss the mini keyboards on cell phones. I have fond memories of my reliable T-Mobile Motorola Cliq, which I bought refurbished from a liquidation shop. It was a well-made piece of kit, and with my touch-typing knowledge, I became adept at thumb-typing on its slide-out board. It was accurate, its stiffness and clicky feedback was pleasant, and I could mash out a long text in hardly any time at all. I also loved the novelty the entire phone gave me with the board extended - I felt like I was carrying a real "pocket computer" in the way I used to imagine how one would look, act, and feel, back in the Eighties. (The Apple II, TRS-80, Commodore 64, and Atari 400/800 were "home computers", and 2400 baud was a speedy connection.) I'd suggest people hold on to their old tech where feasible. They'll become nice links and touchstones to other, more cherished memories, in the same way as well-kept toys stir up more and clearer childhood memories.
Incredible. This has a 900 mah battery and it is pretty big, while the LG Watch Urbane LTE has a 700 mah battery and works as a regular phone. Man how far we have come.
Certain things that Lewis said put the pace of technological advancement into perspective. It's like we changed into an entirely different world in the gap of five years. First, the screen was 320x400 in size. By today's Quad-HD standards, it's figuratively non-existent. Secondly, he called a 15.1" screen "very, very , very thin." Phones are now half the size as a standard. Thirdly, he said "dual-core powerhouse". We now have octa-core as a common spec. Just can't help thinking that few years down the line, the current top specs would be a topic of laughter as well.
No built in 3.5mm headphone jack? Seems the small size has made them compromise on functionality. Also that charging port looks very similar to Apples MagSafe connectors. Good video John.
If you buy this in 2017, will you be able to use it? I heard something about HP dropping the support and stuff like that. I don't plan on using the app catalog, but can you use it at all when you turn it on the first time? Please reply it would help so much
The Xperia Mini may be smaller in sense of length and bredth, but it's thinner and is still able to have 720p video recording, aswell as a microUSB port aswell as a 3.5mm headphone jack, why can't HP do it with the Veer? or as mikeye9 put it.. the HP Queer.
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RIP Palm. Palm Pre was my very first smartphone. It paved the way for all modern smartphones. Wireless charging, multitasking cards, gestures, apps. It had it all.
The wireless charging mayeb but gestures existed before that. I saw it on an old wired video on another smartphone.
If I bought this in 2019, I would have assumed it had bootloop problem. Damn that boot was slow
I was thinking to buy it, but your comment have changed my mind . 😊
@@razibbaraljoy9978 *might I ask why you were considering buying this phone about 8 years after it came out?
@@sansationalsans348 Just collection.
Where you buy?
I want to buy , where is available?
oh its so cute, a headphone dongle on a nearly 10 year old device
It took us years of fighting to standardize and get everyone on board with the 3.5mm jack.
But 9 years later.. here we are.
Because of morons touting "courage".
I really really wanna buy it but i dont know where
@@fbkensarhd5279 exactly
The no headphone port on this old phone must have been an inspiration for apple.
Maxwell J
This phone isn't Android is webOS, the notifications and the task manager in both iOS and android came from this OS, is a shame what the idiots from HP did to this OS.
@@dmora2309 WebOS was a legend.
I am commenting from 2023 and you know in iPhones X and later we have all the gestures of this phones to navigate.
Back in the early 2000s this is what I thought phones would do, get smaller and faster. Even when the iPhone came out in 07 I never dreamed that screens would get so HUGE!
That's what I was thinking! They're so big and I'm always thinking, "how are you going to fit that in your pocket?"
+Ashley Peng actually it did lolllll
They got bigger because we realized we could watch porn on our cell phones xD
thanks samsung
*replying to this comment on a pixel 2 xl with a 6 inch screen, amazing how far we've come
Unboxing videos are seldom fun, but this was awesome. You've got great energy, man - I subbed. Thanks for the best-yet look at the Veer.
*Sup with TH-cam recommending these old af vids???*
It resurface again a year after lol
until the end of this video i was not aware that this video is from 2011 ..!
I'm surprised too
Green Sheep ikr
true
saaame
ikr!!
Who's watching in 2017
Ahmed Muyen Kamran me , this thing is kind of cool
Ahmed Muyen Kamran I'm enjoying baby Rettinger haha :)
Me.
Ahmed Muyen Kamran Not me, oh no!
Ahmed Muyen Kamran Tired of android :)
"800MHz Snapdragon"? "Pretty quick device"?
2011 was a good year.
Probably an Overclocked msm7227 based on the arm v6.
"it should be a pretty fast device?" Takes like 4 minutes to boot
Imagine if they revamped this little boy with 2016 specs...
My goodness how much more if it's waterproof I bet every athletes and enthusiasts would have one
Holly sh**! Hadn’t seen that TechnoBuffalo intro in a long time! :D
2:29 apple in 2016
Lol true
and you knew it
So True, so true :(
Until 4:25, I didn't know it slided :P
Spoilers
+BordeEnd What about at 3:20?
Enduity Its beacause the keyboard is so small in the screen, Some people can't type some keys
Watching this 10 years later, Now that we have Smartwatches the size of this phone it's fascinating when seeing the evolution in technology....
Yea
the moment i saw the keyboard i knew i just have to get it!!!
Who's idea was it to call a phone HPVeer? That is pretty much an STD
I made a smartwatch out of this and 3D printed a band.
Can I see a vid
yes please a video!!
this was a great little phone. Despised being on AT&T, so my time with it was short. Playing with it now, it's slow as molasses but the form factor, build quality, and size definitely had promise. Plug was pulled too soon on webOS.
Damn 2011 I thought its a new video lol 😂
+Cherie Gel haha same reaction xD
+Rambo Boja high five 😊
:D
Super
nice mirror on the back. I would like to have this one.
"...by 15mm, so its very very thin..." ahh back in the day
So HP was the one who got the Dongle Life into existence
WTF
They had magnetic charger back then !
Masterpiece phone! Miss my Palm Veer! Still consider it the best phone I've had so far along with Pre3
I'm dying this phone is so cute and tiny omg
I know right ? XD
The keypad just totally ruined it for me
Right😂😂
I laughed a little when he said "not everyone needs a dual-core powerhouse"
But it's true
@@lukmly013 what year is it for you? the stone age?
@@outrageous5363 Wait. My mother uses a very old feature phone and does not even know what CPU is. And anyway some smartphones with one core are still quite useful
@@lukmly013 its your mom mate, she probably doesn't know how a microwave works
@@outrageous5363 It's because old people use phones mainly for communication. Try not to be a degenerate online.
its 2016 and i still would prefer this over a modern day smartphone.
2011, when every tech TH-camr started their video with "whats up guys"
I like the 3D sound you give us when you move and talk to the left!! use head phones people!
Actually you tube is a time machine. Xd)
Old video. OMG!
HP WebOS phones ae cute. Cuteness overloaded.
😇😅
It's so adorable.
It's so fluffy i'm gonna die!
RusticKey I agree
It's perfect size for me, thank god they finally made a smart phone my size. I waited years for this.
"When desighing the HP Veer, We decide to make it look just like the microsoft kin, and be just as succesfull"
nskzhzjz
5:22 Had to laugh hard when you pulled out that Infuse. The way you said "4.5 inch phone" like it was humongous! Oh, God, I miss 2011!
Hello, I Come From The Future.
Guess you forgot to brought your dictionary
+Anurag Kanoria No, you did.
+KoreanJoker rekoJnaeroK some one is hurt here.
Anurag Kanoria No, you actually typed your comment wrong. I don't know if that's sarcasm or you were serious, but that sentence incorrect.
+LegitMudkip i am the futures future
I think all this "you need this adaptor for charging" and "this adaptor for plugging in a headset" crap rules this out for me, which is a pity. Still, I LOVE my HP Pre 2 (I have 2) and will just get the Pre 3 when it's out. Thanks for sharing and the review, very interesting to see what's out there and just how you small you can make these things!
OH MY GOD!!! THAT'S MY NAME!!!!
OH MY FUCKIN GOD!!!
Should I get this phone or the palm pre plus or palm pre 2 I want a smartphone that has a slide up keyboard
This is a phone for little people.
+Joe Dirt Really little people.Like midgets.
i like the mirror idea for the rear camera for taking photos of yourself... pretty cool little feature they add that most might not notice :)
what is a price
Probably around 350 dollars
were do you buy this?
Nice, but it would've helped if the 3.5 mm jack was built in. I like the way it charges as well
Its so cute! I saw it in person thanks for the review
Funny how time flies. Maybe if phones had physical keyboards they wouldn't need to be so fucking huge.
Can you do a Evo 3D when it comes out, im thinking of switching just for that phone if its as good as it sounds to be
what were they thinking with the pre2 and not making the keyboard slide out landscape style.
OMG John sounds so different here! What a difference 5 years can make.
Nice. I'm forcing myself into a smartphone purchase even though I don't need one. I wonder if you recommend non-smartphones that are small and rugged.
I have a first gen Palm Pre, and it takes FOREVER to start up. It's ridiculous. It appears they haven't really fixed this.
Is it available in india too
Lots of interest here judging by the comments. Which means people want smaller phones again? Could be the next "big" thing for the future.
I kinda wish there would be an updated version of the HTC Aria with a 3.5inch screen (same as old iphones)
+JasnoGT I love big screens actually. This Veer is just so small that it's a refreshing thing to see after all the new giant phones. I like that it's so tiny, I kind of want it as a collector's item
So small they couldn't fit a 3.5 mm Jack and micro usb part? More like they didn't have the technology at the time to do so. I have a 5.1 mm thin phone, WAY WAY thinner than this phone and it has both those ports.
But it does have a keyboard that takes alot of space
both this and the HP TouchPad impressed me a lot! although i have a galaxy S 1st gen, this could be a very interesting device for me!
compare the width please.
and is there going to be the palm pixi 2?
One thing I've noticed in your videos is that the sound passes from the left to the right speaker throughout the video, it kinda freaks me out a bit and makes it hard to listen too :/ Maybe you could make your videos in mono? It's very off putting in otherwise great videos.
watching from 2020 and the phone is very beautiful more than nowadays.
@jon4lakers what do u do with all the phones you buy??
Jon, are you going to do a review of this phone? I'm especially interested in call quality as I heard bad things about it. Thanks.
the palm pre bombed under the palm name, so it makes sense to try to resell it under HP right? tell me whats the point of this?
Been looking for a small touch screen MP3 player for running (not a fan of iTunes so Apple is a no-go). I think this will do. How is its music playing? Does this have Bluetooth? Can I connect my wireless headphones to it?
Imagine comparing this to an iPhone 12 Pro Max or a Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra. LOL
I've been looking for this phone for years and now i have found it
watching on an hp computer lol
@mimibuick You forgot to mention that is the price without a phone contract. From $99 with contract or $450 without contract to $55 is practically a fire sale. Accessories for the phone are selling at 2 for $5. HP announced on Aug 18, 2011 that they are pulling out from the hardware business. They simply wants to get rid of the inventory. Those who sell on eBay are going to make a lot of money.
???Would this be able to work for other networks
About talking non-smartphones we have a Samsung GT-C3300K , not an overclock version✌ ) and it have 2.4" display with 240x320 pixels. Bought it at 2010 year. STILL working like new phone and also it have VERY LONG lasting battery!
Interesting return to form for the mobile phone market. It reminds of when new phones used to be smaller than the phone they were replacing. I wonder if the slow boot is indicative of performance in general.
"if you don't want a dual core powerhouse"
me: when was this video made? oh.
does it has any update yet ?
I wish those conductive charging ports become standardized. give it as an alternative to micro USB (USB still takes priority though). It's very useful especially for charging on my Nexus 10
Had this I think my freshman year of high school and it was super cute but problematic because the touch screen would stop working in the middle of using applications and it would send me into a panic
where can i buy it today. Plz let me know
they should make one that size that's a touchscreen I could wear on my wrist.
Nice. I like that they have that too. Not every wants a huge phone small phones were in back in the day lol bring it back!
I'll wake up tomorrow and that thing's gonna be still powering on
I'm not sure if you obtained your new phone, although the Palm Pre Plus is quite affordable right now and I believe it looks immensely better than the Pre 2 and Pre 3.
I know there's some controversy on which was was the last phone made by Palm, although I still believe it was the Palm Pre Plus...
Although predictive swipe-typing is altogether fantastic, I occasionally miss the mini keyboards on cell phones.
I have fond memories of my reliable T-Mobile Motorola Cliq, which I bought refurbished from a liquidation shop. It was a well-made piece of kit, and with my touch-typing knowledge, I became adept at thumb-typing on its slide-out board. It was accurate, its stiffness and clicky feedback was pleasant, and I could mash out a long text in hardly any time at all.
I also loved the novelty the entire phone gave me with the board extended - I felt like I was carrying a real "pocket computer" in the way I used to imagine how one would look, act, and feel, back in the Eighties. (The Apple II, TRS-80, Commodore 64, and Atari 400/800 were "home computers", and 2400 baud was a speedy connection.)
I'd suggest people hold on to their old tech where feasible. They'll become nice links and touchstones to other, more cherished memories, in the same way as well-kept toys stir up more and clearer childhood memories.
2020 and the 1st time i saw this phone my entire life lol and got super shocked when slided it
Incredible. This has a 900 mah battery and it is pretty big, while the LG Watch Urbane LTE has a 700 mah battery and works as a regular phone. Man how far we have come.
what do you do with all the phone that you ubox?
im getting my first phone which is this in only 2 months
i wonder if they are making something better in 2 months
Certain things that Lewis said put the pace of technological advancement into perspective. It's like we changed into an entirely different world in the gap of five years.
First, the screen was 320x400 in size. By today's Quad-HD standards, it's figuratively non-existent.
Secondly, he called a 15.1" screen "very, very , very thin." Phones are now half the size as a standard.
Thirdly, he said "dual-core powerhouse". We now have octa-core as a common spec.
Just can't help thinking that few years down the line, the current top specs would be a topic of laughter as well.
No built in 3.5mm headphone jack? Seems the small size has made them compromise on functionality. Also that charging port looks very similar to Apples MagSafe connectors.
Good video John.
Where can meet it... ?
Watching in 2016, damn technology escalated quickly
does it run Android? is there a similar phone that runs Android? just need it for running
I was waiting for Jon to say, "let's compare it to an iphone 5"...it seemed like he had every other phone there!
If you buy this in 2017, will you be able to use it? I heard something about HP dropping the support and stuff like that. I don't plan on using the app catalog, but can you use it at all when you turn it on the first time? Please reply it would help so much
RasenShuriken反重力 why tho
where do you buy this phone
Back then, everyone wanted smaller phones.
Now people would carry around phones the size of tvs if they existed. lol
The Xperia Mini may be smaller in sense of length and bredth, but it's thinner and is still able to have 720p video recording, aswell as a microUSB port aswell as a 3.5mm headphone jack, why can't HP do it with the Veer? or as mikeye9 put it.. the HP Queer.
@jon4lakers can it be pre paid?
because i'm watching in 2015 i find it funny he says dual core powerhouse
quad core devices are becoming known as budget devices!
+TheChimchar same in 2016.
+TheChimchar he also says it's very thin HAHAHA
Where are the headphones? when Palm existed, their phones had headphones that came with the phone.
This is a proper dimension for a smartphone....in the future maybe it will open like a book and will have another screen (double) inside