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  • @phantomeye0254
    @phantomeye0254 ปีที่แล้ว +2036

    Moira is the support to play if you have zero peel from your team. She can pump some good stats, but the lack of utility she brings is the trade off to her survivability.

    • @Karatarari
      @Karatarari ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Technically Moira has one utility and that's doing Damage/Healing without actually being at the location. That of course is painfully mediocre compared to all the other supports utility wise.

    • @christopher7692
      @christopher7692 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@Karatarari baptiste can do that tenfold though and has utility

    • @Karatarari
      @Karatarari ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@christopher7692 Baptiste can only do it in a tiny little area he hits, Moira can literally be around 2 walls and underground and still be healing them.

    • @christopher7692
      @christopher7692 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Karatarari idk if I’d call it a tiny area but didn’t know you were just referring to Moria orb lol I get what you’re saying now

    • @Bleazy710
      @Bleazy710 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yea no. Bap is a much better option with his jump passive plus he can actually do dmg and a shit ton of it and his abilities r waaaay better

  • @yesx5197
    @yesx5197 ปีที่แล้ว +1110

    "I haven't lost a single time", not only is this a complete lie, but she says it like she's unveiling a super evil plan 😂

    • @Absinthexx7
      @Absinthexx7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I’ve found most people who say “ l haven’t lost as this comp a single time” have played that comp in the single digits, and that number is much closer to 1 than it is to 9

    • @ZomGear
      @ZomGear ปีที่แล้ว +11

      super easy, just don't play Moira then ya cannot lose with Moira

    • @kaiocrap6965
      @kaiocrap6965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

    • @azseal2669
      @azseal2669 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The way I interpret it is thus: "I need people to dive with me otherwise I die instantly"

    • @ashonline77
      @ashonline77 ปีที่แล้ว

      On the contrary, I lose most of my games when my team has a moira. She just doesn't bring enough utility to the match and often times you die important fights because she's not focused on healing either. Regardless of padded stats with self healing and damage orb raking up damage and elims, she feels the least impactful to play with.

  • @D3th10rd
    @D3th10rd ปีที่แล้ว +287

    I think Brig wouldn't have such a misconception of their aura if they did a similar thing they did to lucio and had a ring around them that showed "ok, this is whats in your range, this isnt."

    • @sleepless_fox3995
      @sleepless_fox3995 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      Agree, I had no idea her aura was THAT big and thought I had to be way closer than I really needed to.

    • @ryanbaker1207
      @ryanbaker1207 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sleepless_fox3995I didn’t either and I’ve had her in my support pool since she came out

    • @gromplin
      @gromplin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sleepless_fox3995Same! I was always staying like pretty much 5 feet off of whoever needed healing but not I know I CAN in fact protect my Ana from dive while still healing my team… Neat!

    • @undeadarcher465
      @undeadarcher465 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Im a long time brig main, and a number gremlin, love memorizing character stats and stuff (like damage a hit and bs) AND STILL never knew brigs passives range? I was genuinely stunned hearing him say the range?? Like i never noticed it goes that far

    • @Octovol
      @Octovol 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The biggest misconception about Inspire is how it actually triggers the heal. You would think that like Lucio you hit someone then for 5 seconds provide AoE heals to everyone around you. But that's not how it works. At the moment you hit someone and trigger inspire anyone in range and LoS of you has the 5 seconds heal over time applied to them. If you pop out, proc inspire and THEN someone comes into your range and LoS they're not getting healed.

  • @ikaros6633
    @ikaros6633 ปีที่แล้ว +541

    Dude, I was playing a plat lobby as a brig and a Moira kept diving me and dying over and over and I question the Moira as to why she kept doing it and I honestly didn't understand the reason but apparently they were mad that they couldn't kill me so they kept trying to kill instead of my ana.

    • @BlooBoi23
      @BlooBoi23 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      She’s just there for pressure and to get easy pickings (like a vulture, essentially killing what was dying anyway) while also giving some healing. Ppl think she’s supposed to be an alt sombra or something and that’s why they suck

    • @maridomi8303
      @maridomi8303 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Usual Moira brainrot

    • @CowKirbo
      @CowKirbo ปีที่แล้ว +11

      See shes just a terrible moira. Not a good one.

    • @L-Archange
      @L-Archange ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Did my first placements and I’m a diamond 1 Mercy/Moira main. Honestly seems a little underrated.
      lI’m able to get high heals with her and deal kinda decent damage and her ult is devastating.

    • @CowKirbo
      @CowKirbo ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@L-Archange Moira is stupid strong anywhere but top play.

  • @kosmosfan01
    @kosmosfan01 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    It hurts to watch someone play Brig and shield bash into the Rein to try and 1v1 him.

    • @kosmosfan01
      @kosmosfan01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Reality 😆

    • @MansterBear
      @MansterBear 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yep. When I first tried her (late stage OW1 days) I thought that's what u were supposed to do with her.
      Then I watched someone that actually knew how to play her and realized her whip shot/dash away is the way to use it most of the time.
      When a Rein is uses his charge, and u can whip him and throw him off course a little... it's so satisfying. You basically just saved a teammate and kept your team in the fight with it. Rather than them getting pinned, killed, and losing the fight.
      I also love whipping the Winstons when they go to dive. Then they either don't make it to the high ground they were jumping too, or fall 10 ft short of their desired position, which helps heroes like Zen and Ana survive.
      I've climbed from Bronze to Gold 2 with mainly Brig and Ana (especially after watching Awkward's videos).

    • @kosmosfan01
      @kosmosfan01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MansterBear I've been using her bash to get the heck out of dodge a lot of the time since they increased the distance of it in OW2. It's definitely a different playstyle from 2018 when she could just be super aggressive because she also had a stun. During the later stage of Overwatch, she became more of a defensive hero which is what she was probably supposed to be from the start and since she's really the only support designed like that, she becomes a must pick in most metas no matter how many nerfs she's gotten since she can bodyguard the Ana.

    • @GummyDinosaursify
      @GummyDinosaursify 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Depends on the Rein. You can kind of test the waters and see if he's one of those "Hide behind my shields as soon as I take damage" Rein players. If he is, you can easily 1v1 as he just holds his shield up until he's dead.

    • @dylanholm9995
      @dylanholm9995 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GummyDinosaursifybronze lobbies

  • @PewPewShootEmUp
    @PewPewShootEmUp ปีที่แล้ว +282

    I switch to Moira if they don't have an Ana, and my team like needs an overwhelming amount of healing just constantly thrown at them, a lot of ppl just have no level of self sufficiency. They just expect to be healed after every bullet immediately and she's good for those ppl

    • @msAstraea
      @msAstraea ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Unfortunately that’s like 90% of the teams. The reason people play Moira is mainly bc their team needs it. To have Baptiste or ana heal their 5hp missing, you’ll never me done but Moira I just throw an orb out and they have to do it with that.

    • @TheTurtlebot
      @TheTurtlebot ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yea low ranks are brutal it's like they're magnetized to every projectile

    • @Mira-yo4sh
      @Mira-yo4sh ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is why Moira is great in lower elo. She has survivability and easy to use kit. Doesn't get better than that when DPS and tank generally need all the help they can get but team fights are also chaotic and hard to survive as support. I really noticed the difference when i got into gold/plat lobbies in support. Bronze/silver really need you to hold their hand in games

    • @PewPewShootEmUp
      @PewPewShootEmUp ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Mira-yo4sh yeah I'm talking about Masters. Maybe it gets better in GM but in masters tanks still aren't using walls to cover Bastion turret sometimes.

    • @PewPewShootEmUp
      @PewPewShootEmUp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheTurtlebot I'm in masters still dealing with the same shit. Truly is game by game whether the team cares about their life or not

  • @master_mega
    @master_mega 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I think they should give brig a visual ring like Lucio and Sombra have to help people tell the range

    • @group555_
      @group555_ 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The problem with that is that her healing doesn't work the same.
      Lucio provides healing over time within the circle.
      Brig applies a heal over time status on everyone within the circle when she does damage. I think it's like 7 seconds long. You can leave the circle while it's active and you keep getting healed, it just won't be reaplied.
      The circle would imply it works the same, a more accurate visualisation would be a pulse but that's too much visual clutter.

    • @thegoldenninja7963
      @thegoldenninja7963 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fun fact. She already does if you pay attention. It's just a burst and not constantly there

    • @master_mega
      @master_mega 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@group555_ yeah like it would show when she’s healing

    • @ronramen5827
      @ronramen5827 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Someone else was yapping about how a ring like Lucio’s would be confusing, but there are so many ways to visually work around that. A little effect that shoots out or flashes each time she does damage would be nice. Plus I’m pretty sure that the new health bar UI shows when you’re getting healed (might just be self healing), so adding a subtle effect to Brig’s passive could definitely work and would be useful. Visual clutter is a concern, and finding the balance between too much and too little is hard.

    • @master_mega
      @master_mega 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ronramen5827 I think the heath UI only shows when healing is boosted, reduced or antied

  • @krm492
    @krm492 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    WAIT i never knew brigs aura was THAT BIG

  • @Reynos06
    @Reynos06 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Honestly Moira is one of the best supports for lower elo, it's just that as you work up to ladder and players start understanding positioning so they don't feed, raw healing becomes less impactful than other utility abilities. In bronze she is still an absolute menace being able to output massive raw healing while also having a soft lock style damage in lobbies where nobody can aim lol.

    • @alejandronero4368
      @alejandronero4368 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sûre, that's why she've been picked at Overwatch league this season :)

    • @L-Archange
      @L-Archange ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m DM1 support and she’s still really useful. I usually play Mercy but she’s a really solid second pick
      When she doesn’t work out or it doesn’t fit her style then I switch to Bap

    • @squashbanana5146
      @squashbanana5146 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@alejandronero4368 According to the OWL statslab she has been played for a total of 2:58:02 in 2023 OWL. That's not the flex you think it is.
      Clarification: She has only 3 teams that have played her for more than 30 minutes(next closest time is all of about 9 minutes). I can't find the win rate but with under a 2% pick rate, win rate is not reliable anyway.
      A 2% pick rate is less than every other support barring Lifeweaver, with a whopping 0.2%

    • @alejandronero4368
      @alejandronero4368 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@squashbanana5146 she has been picked and used at the highest level, yet you think she's terrible at high level, i didnt see them pick zen or weaver..

    • @squashbanana5146
      @squashbanana5146 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@alejandronero4368 Literally providing numbers here. Helps to actually READ what I'm telling you before you make assumptions. She had the lowest pick rate/play time of all the supports outside of Lifeweaver
      Zen isn't even the support that's directly above Moira either in pick rate, it's Mercy. Which is insane given how heavily used dive comps are in OWL (Winston's pick rate was ~68-63%) The fact that Zen is played more than Moira INTO A DIVE DRIVEN LEAGUE says all I need to know.
      Even with his survivability being his main flaw, into dive, he's seen as the stronger pick. Wild

  • @ixaldok8379
    @ixaldok8379 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Thank you for the clarification on Brigs aura. I now know not to play as aggressively!

    • @squashbanana5146
      @squashbanana5146 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Literally if you just land whip shots and stay within a certain distance of your squishy heroes to keep them alive, you will still be able to heal the tank pushing forward and not risk your life as brig.

    • @I_am_a_cat_
      @I_am_a_cat_ ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Brigs whole thing is protecting the back line, stopping flanks.

    • @LoudWaffle
      @LoudWaffle ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed, that's genuinely huge knowledge that would completely change how I played her if I still played.

    • @david162116162140
      @david162116162140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She's a defensive healer. She pairs well with all the other healers. In my opinion, the only healers who can be played (if played right) in all setups are Brig, Anna, and Lucio. The others are very situational, and composition has a lot to do with it.

    • @squashbanana5146
      @squashbanana5146 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@david162116162140 you were cooking til you said lucio can be played in everything.

  • @BasicLich
    @BasicLich ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Moira excels at taking out annoying characters with high mobility like Mercy,Lucio, and Pharrah, characters with shield and reflects like Sigma and Genji. But I see so many people play her and either never shoot the heal orb, OR people don’t understand how strong it is and you gotta push with it.

    • @Cloud7050
      @Cloud7050 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Moira has no business chasing a good pharah. Her damage is too low to solo a good mercy. She also isn't too much help for sapping shields, but can play usefully into shields due to her balls.

    • @BasicLich
      @BasicLich ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Cloud7050 you say “good” pharrah, but don’t acknowledge the “good” Moira required for your theory. It’s beyond easy to out maneuver Pharrah, and when she starts to descend you can launch a damage orb to sap even more.

    • @ianaimon8286
      @ianaimon8286 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BasicLichim ex t500 (now gm) on genji pharah and hanzo. moira isn’t as effective once ur team knows how to peel for u/help against her. since pharah is usually played w a mercy pocket or smth moiras dmg is usually just outhealed. genji is also not that bad against her since u just need to bait out fade and u can win the 1v1. other than that she can finish him off.

    • @speedysgaminganddrawingcha3719
      @speedysgaminganddrawingcha3719 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ianaimon8286Can you coach me? Im silver 5 on dps

    • @cheeseeygamer2997
      @cheeseeygamer2997 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@BasicLichthat's not a good pharah then, especially the current version. Good Pharahs are gonna constantly have a cool down ready to get out of a bad situation. Even if you get the jump they can easily win the 1v1 with direct rockets cus its honestly not that hard to hit Moira cus of how close she is.

  • @spapeztheoctopus3249
    @spapeztheoctopus3249 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Brig has the ability to distract people or finish people or force back divers or do a lot of different things that are good value that other supports can do but none can do it while still healing their team

  • @danielstubbs6956
    @danielstubbs6956 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Down here in metal ranks everyone plays Moira since they can't aim so they just run around and hold right-click all God damn day

    • @michawkwalter4205
      @michawkwalter4205 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And Bunny Hop and strave left to right. And the worst part is you lose to that sometimes.

    • @courier-ec6zj
      @courier-ec6zj ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, this is pretty much why I default to aoe heros. My aim got fucked by surgery, and isn't what it used to be.

    • @marinakovac5850
      @marinakovac5850 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@courier-ec6zj Honestly a great idea.

    • @yesx5197
      @yesx5197 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Idk why it's an issue if people can't aim. I can't aim for shit and my two most used heroes are mercy and moira, pretty obvious why... but what's your issue?

    • @michawkwalter4205
      @michawkwalter4205 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yesx5197 he never rly said it is an issue just a bit anoying to See the same hero over and over again imo.

  • @HawtLS
    @HawtLS ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The hero you pick doesn't really matter. Moira is significantly better at low ranks because she's unkillable with her fade, self-heal, and skinny hitbox. She stays alive longer than a mercy that doesn't know how to hide behind walls or utilize her movement. She heals more than an ana that misses 70% of her shots. In GM/T500, moira dies just as easily as any other support due to their ability to punish cooldowns, and well... aim haha
    If you're worried about what character to pick and you're below masters, don't worry about it. The character you're most comfortable on will almost always be the best pick. Team comp, meta, and counter picking is heavily overrated at lower ranks. Don't blame the characters picked, just play better 5head

    • @newtonthenewt1400
      @newtonthenewt1400 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sure, to some extent, but there are serious weaknesses with certain comps that are easily exploited without even requiring much counter-swapping or team coordination.
      For instance, if you're running Zen and Lucio as your supports, your team is just going to get run over. If you're running Symmetra and Reaper with no other hitscan, a Pharah+Mercy will annihilate you in a relatively open map.
      Otherwise yes, in most other situations it is more ideal to play what you're comfortable with, even if it isn't the "ideal" or "optimal" hero to play in the matchup.

  • @lukraniom8731
    @lukraniom8731 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    People also forget you can proc inspire with whipshot.

  • @poltergeist1554
    @poltergeist1554 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As a moira main I feel attacked

  • @Blockybodyguard
    @Blockybodyguard 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    okay wow that visual of how big her heals are mchanged my view of her i honestly thought it was smaller than lucios

  • @lrmcatspaw1
    @lrmcatspaw1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A friend of mine who plays brig and moira only was telling me the other day that he understands now what I mean about Moira being weak.
    Because he cant save someone that feeds too much or someone getting one shot.
    I wanted to tell him "there is MUCH MORE than that" but I decided he needs to climb that hill alone :D.

    • @Caffeine_Addict_2020
      @Caffeine_Addict_2020 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brig is wild in the upper ranks rn, what do you mean? Moiras relatively lower rank, but she's still great up to diamond/masters

  • @ShadowHealer-
    @ShadowHealer- ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Just because you don't know how to play Moira doesn't mean she's bad.

    • @user-kv4qi1dv4m
      @user-kv4qi1dv4m ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Moira is a shit support that soft throws the game. She's not useless but she's not useful either.

    • @user-kv4qi1dv4m
      @user-kv4qi1dv4m ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joseph5900 tell me you are low ranked without telling me

    • @damakbro2730
      @damakbro2730 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@joseph5900 tbh I would rather have a lifeweaver than a Moira on my team.

    • @mrlool1991
      @mrlool1991 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@damakbro2730 That's a straight up BS lie because no one serious abt playing wants a Lifeweaver, the weakest hero in game rn, to be on his team

    • @user-kv4qi1dv4m
      @user-kv4qi1dv4m ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrlool1991 Same goes for Moira. The only time Moira is even played in the league is in rush comps. Where people play close together with high coordination.
      What works in pro play does not work in ranked, and what works in ranked does not work in pro play.
      Take phara mercy, which is hardly ever seen in pro play.
      That argument is fundamentally flawed

  • @SolidForge362
    @SolidForge362 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've been playing Brig recently like a poke character and looking for isolated opponents and it's helped me win a lot more

  • @ziggy2metalx720
    @ziggy2metalx720 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    One Moira is better than having Lucio and mercy in the same team.

    • @Cloud7050
      @Cloud7050 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends

    • @angelstouge2195
      @angelstouge2195 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not in a thousand years one support can outperform two

    • @anunoriginalslacker6262
      @anunoriginalslacker6262 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@angelstouge2195 ... Brother in christ I do more than the enemys healing combined + damage on moira almost every game in comp.
      You are.. Good lord, you're lost son.

    • @foamy6794
      @foamy6794 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@anunoriginalslacker6262A lucio is far better than a Moira, lucio and Moria don’t heal that much in the moment but lucios movement and ultimate complete outdo moiras kit.

    • @cheeseeygamer2997
      @cheeseeygamer2997 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@anunoriginalslacker6262cool. Those numbers don't mean anything in a game like overwatch. A lucio boop that knocks an enemy off high ground can lead to a free kill while still providing healing or speed to the team. A Moira can keep trying to pump heals and damage, but after a certain level the impact of big numbers fades off. Any team that can peel or focus fire can negates Moiras damage and healing. Meanwhile you have to take CC like Mei in order to negate a Lucio speeding a deathball into your team.

  • @sakuyaizayoi8946
    @sakuyaizayoi8946 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    brig either plays like a dark souls rpg style tank barely using cooldowns to keep the enemy from rolling you over or bodyguard sim

    • @justifano7046
      @justifano7046 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah which kinda sucks if you're solo queue.
      She's great when piggybacking off of a coordinated team but solo its a tough time and you're an easy target for dive

  • @KleptoKazoo
    @KleptoKazoo ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love playing her but I do realize that she isn't the best.

  • @Chronoanime666
    @Chronoanime666 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brig needs to be played like a glass tank assassin who doesn’t ever dive too far but always dives and then immediately runs away but still diving while running while hitting while diving.

  • @Saladeater42
    @Saladeater42 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imma be fr I didn't know what Brig's inspire radius was until like last week lmao

  • @DCWProduction
    @DCWProduction ปีที่แล้ว +41

    idk, i love my Moira, when things get serious i switch to her, then out heal and out damage everyone. I don't think she needs changing, she's good as is, in my opinion.

    • @unxp0d1t
      @unxp0d1t ปีที่แล้ว +18

      she is a really simple hero, and thats not a bad thing, just in higher elo she is used rarely because of her lack of outplays and support utility. her heals arent bad and sp is her damage if you have a little bit of gamesense. its just her skill celling is really low

    • @primeht9993
      @primeht9993 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rank?

    • @DCWProduction
      @DCWProduction ปีที่แล้ว

      @@primeht9993 Plat 2.

    • @DCWProduction
      @DCWProduction ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @unxp0d1t I see that, maybe it's because I like to play around the tank and keep them up the most, since I also play tank a lot, when I lose its often because of not enough healing

    • @Caffeine_Addict_2020
      @Caffeine_Addict_2020 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@unxp0d1t disagree. Getting good placement off of the map geometry with healing and damage orbs, using her fade correctly, and balancing damage and healing streams all take quite some time to learn

  • @Wake_Maker
    @Wake_Maker ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Can't lie though, baptist is the best support. Can heal for a lot, almost dead? Boom, full health. Almost dead again? Boom, immortality field. Bad guys in the back line, boom jump and head snipe em with the burst

    • @pyrobadger
      @pyrobadger ปีที่แล้ว

      Bap and Ana are my fav

    • @longpigpie3584
      @longpigpie3584 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zens my favourite, because when the enemy is already dead there’s no need to heal.

    • @insecticaa
      @insecticaa ปีที่แล้ว

      imo ana is always the best support

    • @MansterBear
      @MansterBear 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@longpigpie3584 Ah, a fellow Awkard watcher huh? lol
      I wish more people realized, yea my heal may be lower... but the fact that I have as much damage and kills as our DPS means you didn't need as much healing to start with.

    • @longpigpie3584
      @longpigpie3584 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MansterBear exactly! The role is called support, not healer for a reason.

  • @sirsquidpotato3027
    @sirsquidpotato3027 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The funny part of Moira is that she’s actually pretty good because she does nothing but get numbers. And with high enough numbers, any character can be good. As we saw when they hyperbuffed lifeweaver for a while

  • @MrBastionOverwatch0
    @MrBastionOverwatch0 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I actually didn’t know brigs radius was that large. You learn something new everyday 💀

  • @I_Am_LazyLad
    @I_Am_LazyLad ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember the tank diff was so bad that my brig had more damage, heal, and MIT. I was the tank that game and it was chaos. Love the character when it works.

  • @dannon9699
    @dannon9699 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The amount of games where my supports have more Elims than my dps is insane. Because the answer is like 10%. Brig Moria is required sometimes cause low elo dps can’t aim so nothing ever dies

  • @watchgeorgerock
    @watchgeorgerock 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In a game where people refuse to play like a team. Moira is popular due to her escape mechanic

  • @gangstabean4565
    @gangstabean4565 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was today years old when i finally learned how big brigs aura healing was, i thought it was like smaller than lucio range😭😭

  • @samroach1665
    @samroach1665 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Moira being her mobility to the table, literally vanishing and reappearing while being invulnerable and has a mobile healing spawn. She isn't necessarily worse, just depends on your play style

  • @kronoslives1261
    @kronoslives1261 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Use me as a: i heal more then anyone as Moira

  • @matthewi9223
    @matthewi9223 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Moria is imo the most main healer im the game...choose moria and the other support xan basically choose any one else...you dont get that option if you choose mercy or lucio or brig or bap or ana or zen ...shes that wierd healer that suppose to out heal and keep the back line frome gengis and tracers and also on of the best peeling movements

  • @BamBam-ch4vu
    @BamBam-ch4vu 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Does brig need line of sight to heal?

    • @Matt-qm1th
      @Matt-qm1th 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes

    • @Matt-qm1th
      @Matt-qm1th 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      People in los get inspire when u deal damage, but they can walk out of your los or you can die and for the next 6 seconds they will still be healed

    • @BamBam-ch4vu
      @BamBam-ch4vu 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Matt-qm1th so as long as when you proc inspire while they're in line of sight of you they will also gain inspire for the duration?

    • @Matt-qm1th
      @Matt-qm1th 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BamBam-ch4vu they’ll be healed but it won’t reset until they’re in los of you again

  • @SnakeSkinz
    @SnakeSkinz ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Low ranks just play Moira cause they can't aim but they don't want to admit it so they go on that copium

  • @TehJuiceBoks
    @TehJuiceBoks 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I started OW on like 2019 very soon after the beginning of her big nerfs. I had no idea she had been so OP before I started playing, but I instantly gravitated toward her. I enjoy the bodyguard playstyle.

  • @Balthazar2242
    @Balthazar2242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Use Brig to defend the backline and deter flanking

  • @KeeperCharlie
    @KeeperCharlie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People really need to understand brig heal aura lasts for quite some time after kicking in and fall back few seconds while protecting the backline and then go forward again and back.

  • @sebin973
    @sebin973 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As Brig I normally like protecting my supports or damage teammates, depending on what heroes they are. I also go brig if there’s an enemy sombra or tracer

  • @maxrosefoxanime7225
    @maxrosefoxanime7225 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hoestly didn't know that information might try Brigg more on support lol

  • @markushaahr9194
    @markushaahr9194 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think that ball is vicious if they use it right. It can mean the death of the enemy team or not.

  • @jeremycaswell
    @jeremycaswell 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whenever i play support, brig is what i use for watching for flankers

  • @kamikaze4172
    @kamikaze4172 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that mostly comes down to practice of movement and how much you pay attention to your surroundings. No utility, sure, but she's more for taking care of dives, I'd think

    • @Cloud7050
      @Cloud7050 ปีที่แล้ว

      She's good against ball. Heal orb good to deal with piledriver.

  • @Auzuru
    @Auzuru 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The only problem that I have with Brig is that you need line of sight to heal with your passive, with the new maps being completely full of stuff and having 10 million corners, it makes it very hard to heal anybody. Also, I'm not sure if that was before since this short is old but her passive doesn't have that much range, it's only as long as your flail

  • @os3688
    @os3688 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why on earth does anti nade prevent ALL healing? Shouldnt it just reduce the amount of healing the target receives? I think in order for other supports to be more valuable you need to nerf the anti nade and allow only junkerqueen ult to fully prevent any healing for the duration.

  • @backscratch3384
    @backscratch3384 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I read that as ovulating

  • @nihili4196
    @nihili4196 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I mean, you should play Brig like Rein, just with a note that your "fire strikes" are meant for your team.
    That alone changes where you should be, but mindset stays the same

    • @froggod6484
      @froggod6484 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No???????

  • @kamikaze4172
    @kamikaze4172 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't know hitting people with her mace healed teammates and didn't know her repair kit does more healing than the initial impact. Knowing that aura distance may not be useful to whoever's got Brig, but it helps to know where you can stand for healing

  • @boompro2419
    @boompro2419 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a brig main you are supposed to be able to switch from long to close range depending on the situation. but you can get the healing done from a range as long as you hit you flail ability.

  • @lunarluger3498
    @lunarluger3498 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ive always thought of brig as riot police , you protect those around u from a diver n whip them away

  • @titaniom77
    @titaniom77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    moira and brig are fine in lower elo. The affinity of the player with their hero matters more than following the meta

  • @timothywyatt3269
    @timothywyatt3269 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    we usually do a moira ana supp comp

  • @darklordkage9112
    @darklordkage9112 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should play Brig in the ''Mid line''. This means: far enough up front to help the front line with whipshot to proc inspire, but far enough back that you can peel for the backline.

  • @catbeans4685
    @catbeans4685 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What happened to Bring being an unkillable stun machine?

  • @TTG_beast_boy_Gaming
    @TTG_beast_boy_Gaming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    NO STUN!? NEITHER DOES HALF OF THE OTHERS

  • @Loki24369
    @Loki24369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How many times do content creators have to share that image of the sphere of influence for folks to understand how far brig can heal from?

  • @thelaw557
    @thelaw557 ปีที่แล้ว

    The one and only 100% win rate Moira: “I haven’t lost a single time”

  • @JvmelAndraDe
    @JvmelAndraDe 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They should've not remove the necrotic orb. I'm sure she would have been S tier with that, even better than Bap or Ana.

  • @essj8427
    @essj8427 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The amount of times I’ve had a brig on my team and they play so passive either because they are scared to fight or they picked brig when our team comp doesn’t compliment her

  • @StonerKitty420Z
    @StonerKitty420Z 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never knew brig had that much healing potential. I never knew the range was that impressive

  • @SuperAmericanism
    @SuperAmericanism ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The problem is most players these days have way more time on more traditional shooters, so they only understand bigger number better player.

  • @rdknght17
    @rdknght17 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brig is a beast at flank denial and people sleep on her ability to disrupt abilities with her boop.

  • @dylancrosby2451
    @dylancrosby2451 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Moira is best dive support and it's not even close, I'm a ball player and i play her exactly like ball (as long as we have some sustain and i dont need to be main healer) and get tonnes of value and rarely ever die. Moira even has more kill potential than ball at times because a damage orb into a suck and punch is more dps than people might realise.

    • @froggod6484
      @froggod6484 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Your in plat

    • @theyneverlearn3679
      @theyneverlearn3679 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lucio, Baptiste and Kiriko are better for dive comps. Baptiste can throw a cross-map immo field to keep your divers from dying for a precious few seconds to either get heals or get their cds back, he can heal divers from one hell of a distance and is himself difficult to dive and trade backlines with.
      Lucio can speed aggressive tanks/dps in and out at a moment's notice, and he can get cheeky environmental elims with boop (depending on the map) Sound Barrier also works great with dives since the extra 700 health will sustain divers long enough to get the needed kills.
      Kiriko can suzu, heal, or dps depensing on the situation. She can also tp out of a bad spot or wall climb, and kit rush is an insane ultimate for dives.
      You will still get a lot of value out of Moira in dive comps, but there are better supports.

  • @seanbeck7746
    @seanbeck7746 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me and my buddy, low to mid gold, run a duo of Brig (me) and Lucio (him). And we straight up carry the team the whole time. As a duo we were able to protect point alone for at least a good minute before our people finally did something. It’s a glorious combo

  • @thatguy000555ify
    @thatguy000555ify 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ive been saying for years that brig should have a visible aura like lucio. It would make it so much easier to figure out her most optimal positioning for new or inexperienced players.

  • @CYWNightmare
    @CYWNightmare 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly ana brig goes hard asf. Otherwise i find brig zen can work but it's rough for your dps/tanks since your healing depends on constantly doing damage.

  • @nikomint4894
    @nikomint4894 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will never stop playing moira

  • @OrchardFilm
    @OrchardFilm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played very little competitive in OW1 and I kinda gaslit myself into thinking Moira was amazing. Thanks to some much-needed perspective from Flats and other players, I’m shelving Moira to pick up other healers to utilize their abilities. Don’t get me wrong, I still think Moira’s raw healing output is incredibly strong, but one anti and all of that gets shut off.

  • @crealiuss
    @crealiuss 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brig at top level comps is used as an area denial tool for keeping more vulnerable supports like Ana and kiriko , alive but mostly Ana currently. Because on a dive comp wear diving on the enemy Ana is really important brig allows for your teams dive to be more successful because your support can be one difficult to kill unit. And the reason u usually loos a team fight is because either your DPS and tank R dumb, or either your Ana or brig made a bad decision that got them killed. This duo is viable for most comps but usually on something like a rush/brawl comp Lucio bap is just better.

  • @Chronal-Rend
    @Chronal-Rend 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Inspire having a 65 ft / 20 m radius is insane

  • @nathanlongstreet9964
    @nathanlongstreet9964 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hate when I have a Moira as the other support

  • @Blaze-kf3ds
    @Blaze-kf3ds 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is why ow needs to list extra stats (in this case brig aura range)

  • @whitejodeci8926
    @whitejodeci8926 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brig is dope, you walk up guve a quick smack and dash back.
    Quickly got to diamond with her

  • @gooquestione
    @gooquestione 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Flats and Kit Kat crossover??

  • @imatea1007
    @imatea1007 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a brig main I MUST protect my ana no body's touching my nana hahaha

  • @hi_may730
    @hi_may730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Moira player think that the huge heal and dmg numbers in their stats means they are good but she litreally cant heal when needed.

  • @MemeCheryl
    @MemeCheryl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And then tou ✨ s w a n ✨ dived

  • @ParticularSky413
    @ParticularSky413 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a Brig main, I’ve definitely out healed “main” healers in plenty of matches…

  • @Keiy_Art
    @Keiy_Art 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have to play Moria if I can't aim. Same with mercy. My aim sucks

  • @thezerowulf2046
    @thezerowulf2046 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I switch to Moira when I have lost all faith in my team to get any kills and i just want to save my ego by saying im not the problem

  • @zeik27
    @zeik27 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If they want an soft rework (no animation changes needed) for Moira they could adjust the orbs to do some different things like the heal orb makes it so someone hit with it can receive 20% damage reduction up to 2 seconds after it stops hitting you and the damage orb gives the enemy something like a 20% slow for up to 2 seconds after it stops hits you. Then to offset this because we all know blizzard likes to offset things. Just decrease the overall damage and healing of the orbs by 20%. This would make people think a bit more about when to use them. For instance if your team was going to orisa ult and you threw it just as she was pulling people in, they may not make it out in time due to the slow. And if you are using the healing orb to try and save someone obviously the bit of damage reduction would help accomplish that.

    • @Mysonismissing
      @Mysonismissing ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I get what you're saying, but I think blizzards idea for Moira is a character that brings a lot of healing and damage but with no other util. Which is fine, I think it's good that there is a support that's really simple and easy to play while also being able to do a disgusting amount of healing (or damage)

  • @YoChrisyBoi
    @YoChrisyBoi 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This Moira stuff did not age well with time 😭

  • @TheTurtlebot
    @TheTurtlebot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Moira just has fade so if ur really struggling with getting dove especially at lower ranks u can just poof gone

  • @tinytimonfire
    @tinytimonfire 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Moira is also the best at healing out of los. Something i think a lot of people forget.

  • @TheGameCapsule
    @TheGameCapsule ปีที่แล้ว

    They nerfed Anas nade so I'm sure it more even now with moria's ball

  • @ivann7214
    @ivann7214 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember when moira dropped and i unintentionally played her like a dps character and had the most damage in the team then the videos started rolling in people complaining about her 😂

  • @LadyVineXIII
    @LadyVineXIII 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So running Mid with Brig so long as you can hit shit works well. Good to know.

  • @Thudd224
    @Thudd224 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brig moira is good if you have dive tank with one dive dps and a rear lines sniper

  • @glitcheremily8994
    @glitcheremily8994 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It sad cause Moria is one if not the only healer I will play. Cause she is easy for me and I enjoy her. I never like support either. I always went for Tank and DPS cause, in my opinion, support, it is boring and makes me want to sleep. But in most cases, I feel the need to play healer, and Moria is the only one I can play. Next to Mercy ofc, but she even gets super boring at times. Beside that, I can't stand playing the other supports cause I don't like their play styles.

    • @dreameater7445
      @dreameater7445 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Damn, you don't like playing Ana zen or bap? damn

    • @bighouse581
      @bighouse581 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@dreameater7445Bap feels odd to me i havent mastered him yet but lucio.... i just cant wall ride to save my life. Ill just stick to beam bot and sniper granny

    • @Abomdosnow
      @Abomdosnow ปีที่แล้ว

      It’d be better if most Moira players were just honest about it like you

    • @glitcheremily8994
      @glitcheremily8994 ปีที่แล้ว

      @dreameater7445 I can't stand playing any of them. Snipers have never been my thing, always boring.
      Bap has too much going on with him at once, and it is hard hitting teammates with my heals, same with Ana.
      Then zen just zen. Nothing special.

    • @dreameater7445
      @dreameater7445 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@glitcheremily8994 Atleast you are honest about the skill issue, props to you there

  • @MoistCatfish
    @MoistCatfish 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Unfortunately I love to play aggressive Brig

  • @ethanforsman4020
    @ethanforsman4020 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why they did never put through that experimental Moira ability that reduced an enemy’s outgoing damage?? Now THAT was a super unique ability that required a ton of skill to hit, was on a long cool down and just made her character more impactful

  • @serabi_
    @serabi_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The first one I can give some context to. She's stated a lot in her videos she's not a high level player and plays mostly for fun, which I can attest aggressive brig Moira is pretty fun.
    I forget her name but she does a bunch of comp ideas just based off of fun gimmicks.

  • @Yea___
    @Yea___ ปีที่แล้ว

    Why has noone told me her aura was that friggin big!?!?!?

  • @PlushieDud
    @PlushieDud ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the best support duo is Ana Kiriko or Ana Mercy. Depends on the situation

  • @Twilight.Princess
    @Twilight.Princess ปีที่แล้ว

    What in the Gold was that Brig take lol

  • @jaxmaniac5325
    @jaxmaniac5325 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Moria is my last resort for making up for bad dps

  • @primumcaelus6382
    @primumcaelus6382 ปีที่แล้ว

    It feels like Brig's healing is like 3 meters max most of the time though