LT1 Cam Swap Guide (2017 Camaro SS 1LE) Ep. 1 - Engine Teardown
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- TH-cam.....What's upppp..... In this series I swap the cam in a 2017 Camaro SS 1LE, swapping out the stocker with a Texas Speed's Stage 2 cam package. This was my first new gen LT1 swap, but I did it with the eng in car, no dropping the oil pan and without removing the front bumper inside a regular garage with mostly everyday auto tools. I had to figure out a few things along the way but it all went pretty well and only took me about 2-3 days with trying to film. Hope you find it helpful and it gives a few of you the confidence to try it themselves. If you feel the need to leave a thumbs down. Let me know why so I can improve. Respectfully please. YOU KNOW THE VIBE, HIT THAT SUBSCRIBE.
TSP LT1 DoD/VVT Delete:
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TSP LT1 Cam Package:
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TSP LT1 Fuel Lash Cap:
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Fuel Pump Lash-Cap Clearances/Install Info:
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LT1 Torque Specs:
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More impressive than the work is you doing it while holding a cell phone videoing!! Talent!!
Hopefully one day it’ll be slightly more professional. I’m slowlyyy getting there. That’s a ton for the comment
Thank you so much for taking the time to walk us through this.
I sure wish that you were my neighbor. We could sure help one another out.
That or drive each other crazy. I’ve got a automotive machine shop at my house. Working on these engines is now a reality in my shop.
Working on a L8T build right now. Hopefully I can talk my wife into letting me do the swap on my 2019 1LE.
Beautiful car!
I mean you not in NV are you lol but thanks I appreciate it
Central Oklahoma. Things are a booming around here if you get tired of NV.
@@hughobrien4139 I’ll remember that for sure
What is up Will? I've been waiting for you to cam swap that car ever since I saw you put the exhaust on. Nice work especially considering you did it with one hand while holding your camera. Can't wait to see part 2... I'm really enjoying your channel. Also, thank you for your service to our country!
Jeff Lyle thanks a ton man. Part 2 should be up by Sunday. Just have to finish cutting some footage. I appreciate you watching. I will try to keep them coming.
@@GetItAtWiLL sweet, I'll be waiting for it!
GetItAt_WiLL I’ll be waiting you have the most detailed video I’ve seen so far.
Thanks for making this I like the REAL life scenario thanks
Chadwick Weatherspoon no prob. I don’t have the ability to do it another way lol 😂😂 I’m trying to get some other stuff in the works too.
when removing the intake. take rubber bands from 1 bolt to the other side bolts to hold them up so you dont scratch mating surface on the heads
J Cunningham roger that. Thank you for that advice. I’ll do that next time
Thanks so much for this video and most importantly, information. God bless you brother. Really helps a ton.
Hey no problem. I’m hopeful that it can help you and I appreciate the view and comment.
Amazing video, getting ready to do my first cam swap on my 2019 after my dod lifters failed, this is extremely helpful
Hey thank you I’m glad it was able to provide some kind of help for you. Thanks a ton
@@GetItAtWiLL I watched both part one and two and it got me all the way through it and car started and ran great 🤝🤝
@@zachariahnajm9924 ayeeeeeeee that’s what I like to hear. I’m really happy it was able to help you out.
What cam kit did you go with?
Just want to say thanks for all the detail. I got an L86 I"m getting ready to do a DOD delete and cam because of a hurt lifter (I think). And your video answered a lot of question people just skip over in other video's.
Blair Barham no problem man I’m just really happy it could help.
How you doing brother. Love your channel. I have a 2017 A8 and want to buy a stage two cam. Can you advise me everything I need to get to install. Brother I appreciate your channel and your advise. Thanks brother and stay safe.
Excellent work mayn. New to the chevy family. I most likely wont attempt this on my 1le, but going to do rotofab and thunder axel back for my first mods
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Excellent Video.. Thanks for sharing..
Thank you for watching. I appreciate it
id recommend removing the bumper cover just for the fact that you doing so much over it and the chances of scratching it. its easy to do
J Cunningham roger that. I recently purchased the fender wrap Race Proven Motorsports uses and I will be using that from now on when doing maintenance. You should check it out too. Sounds like you do a lot of car work yourself. race-proven-motorsports.myshopify.com/products/blue-fender-wrap-24-x-200
Awesome vid man good job! Thank you!
Thank you
What I gotta do for this on a 2014+ vette lol I’m sure it’s the Same minus clearing out the bay but I’d still be more confident if I could watch it on my car! I do appreciate this video though, can’t find much information on how to do this stuff. Is there like a manual or website that shows how to do the complete engine tear down and reassembly that shows torque specs and all the seals/gaskets and what lube needs to be used and where? And what not to do? Great video man
C7 STEEN I used this for torque specs paceperformance.com/files/pdf/lt1-4-torque-specs.pdf . I generally used my knowledge of LS swaps to get the general stuff. The fuel part is the only real difference and the phaser, but the swap itself is pretty cake man. Like you said the difference in engine bays will be the difference I’d imagine you’d just remove the front clip on a vette and that’d get you the room you need to operate and move the radiator etc but I’m not sure.
I’m doing this same job right now, same car! The radiator is whipping my ass. Who would’ve thought that the radiator would be the hardest part of this job, lol. Any tips? I’ve unbolted all bolts and clips you mentioned in video. The radiator still wants to pull the condenser with it when tugged on. Been fighting it for 2 days. Any info helps, thanks man! Keep up the good work 👍🏽
Chase Brasi you get the two screws at the bottom of each corner. The passenger side is near the lil drain plug screw. These two screw in from front to back unlike all the others that were back to front. And the drivers side is pretty much in the same location. Those were the last two screws holding the shroud together that was stopping me until I finically discovered them
GetItAt_WiLL You are the man. If you’re ever in the Mobile area I owe you a beer. Or 6, lol. Got it out! Thanks 🙏🏽
Chase Brasi bro I’m just excited I was able to help and that’s what it was. I was in the same exact predicament and when I finally figured it out I wasn’t able to record those 2 screws so I tried to at least mention it on the video. I apologize for that.
GetItAt_WiLL no sweat, you did awesome on that video. If I could figure out how to get this chain off I’d be in good shape lol
Chase Brasi it just takes some patience. Use the video I linked for more detailed look. I couldn’t exactly do it and record sorry. Just just do it one tooth at a time. Make sure you chain tensioner is loose and loosen but don’t remove the oil pump bolts to give yourself some extra wiggle room
Badass work ! How much to cam mine 2016 Camaro ss ! I’ll included all the parts ! I’m in Las Vegas ?
Let me check and see if I still have the tool I need. I’d be down. Hit my IG. The page should be in my TH-cam profile
Hey Will, Great job on the video! Did you use the stock timing chain? Is it worth pulling the motor to swap it out?
I reused the stock chain. Motor was low mileage and it looked good. It’s it’s not high mileage I wouldn’t. The stock chains usually work pretty well too IMO
LSA of 116 is that good for Automatics??? How low can LSA go and have stock Convertor Stahl rate?
Great video! Thank you!
Thank you for checking it out
Did you have to snake the fans out? I got the top trans cooler line off and that line that runs behind them. They’re getting caught on something but I can see what
Kenneth Harrison I think I took the fans out attached to the radiator as one I’ll have to go rewatch the video to remember. I may be incorrect. But I don’t remember the fans giving me much trouble whatever method I used. The condenser and radiator shroud gave me the most trouble.
Great job on the video, I am doing my first lt car now. Do u have any tips on getting that plastic shroud off of the sides of the radiator? I got the clips off but there are 4 bolts on the sides holding the condenser to the radiator and it’s near impossible to do. Thanks
That was by far the toughest part of this entire job lol I just remember when I managed to get them out I had to find the bolts front the front of the shroud looking aft of the car and they were on the sides. I managed to spot one and get a long and skinny enough extension on it. It’s sucked
Hey man did you guys get the phaser tables from Texas speed? I’m trying to tune now but will take weeks without that info. They didn’t send it to me. Hopefully you have it?
Chase Edwards we did the 0 degree block so the phaser is essentially deactivated. So it’s just tuned like a normal cam with no DoD or any of that. Sorry man
So you have to remove the heads? Is that because the lifters are underneath the heads? That is what it looked like.
Tom Van Dyke that is exactly correct. It was easy though
Shit man I didn’t know u was still at it maaaan I need your help! I have few projects for u lol how far are u from Augusta now? I got some work for u lol
Man I’m over near the west coast now big dawg. I’m in Vegas now
I really appreciate you showing us how to remove parts step by step.
Would you mind pointing out where is 'crankshaft position sensor' and how to approach? Is that the one at 32:00?
Jason lee Jason lee no I believe the “crankshaft position sensor” is still located on the passenger side of the block kind’ve above/behind the starter just like in the LS3 for example. The sensor at 32:00 is a fuel sensor if I remember correctly
GetItAt_WiLL Thank you. I really appreciate it. I thought CPS located under the hood. If Im right, the starter is located passenger side near between engine and transmission underneath the car. Please correct if Im wrong. Nways your video helped my understanding. Thanks again!
Jason lee no prob and I just confirmed yes the crank position sensor is on the passenger side of the engine block right behind the starter (which is also on the passenger side). You’ll have to remove the starter to replace or remove it
GetItAt_WiLL You are totally right! It was deep inside right behind the starter. I really appreciate for your help! Have a great week :)
just subbed. good stuff man.
I appreciate it thank you
Did you remove radiator from the top or bottom and on balancer did you use an impact ?
I removed it from the top and yes I used an impact on the balancer. Apologies for the delayed response.
what head gaskets do i need to go with? whats the part number? great video thanks!
First off thanks a ton. I appreciate the view and as for the gaskets they were OEM GM gaskets. I believe part number is #28-12688943. Or that’s what it’s listed as in Texas Speeds site. Just search the numbers in there. I know TSP has their own head gasket too that should be the same as the OEM for like $10 cheaper too.
@@GetItAtWiLL okay thank you im thinking of doing the same to my 21’ LT1 Camaro and the vid really helps bc its a real situation so thank you
@@ratliffmikejr hey no problem. Let me k ow if I can help any. That’s 4 years later but I’d imagine not too much is different.
Do you have to adjust the valves after a pushrod replacement/repair? A friend has a 2018 camaro, and the passenger side just started making a ticking sound inside the valve cover, what do you think it is?
Could be a few things. Rocker, or lifters are a common ticking issue that sometimes happens with LS and LT style vehicles. I’d take the valve covers off if possible and take a look.
Awesome video!!! And one handed lol
JLyle30 you see it lol but naw thanks a lot for checking it out. Like/Subscribe
Nice nice nice 😁
PrΞdΔ thank you thank you
Good stuff man
Love Camaros I appreciate it, Thank you
How did you go about getting the crank bolt out. I've tried both a 585 and a 1190 ft-lbs impacts with no luck I'm a bit reluctant to try the breaker bar with the trans in 6th, I also have a 17 1LE.
Jason Lauer i stuck a screwdriver in one of the openings on the balancer to try and hold it because it was still rotating a bit even in 6th. I’ll be completely honest. I was worried too like I could not seem to get it and I tried the impact and it didn’t work at first. I then wedged the balancer and tried a breaker bar with a pipe on it for extra leverage but i still felt like I did absolutely nothing. I was like ok I’ll try this impact again and it came right off. And it’s the cheaper harbor freight electric impact. I’d just keep trying that. Maybe throw some heat on it with a torch and keep trying it should come eventually. I’d imagine your impact is way better than the harbor freight one I used.
@@GetItAtWiLL Thanks for the reply I did end up using a propane torch on the bolt for 30 sec mainly around the washer area and kept tapping it with the impact which finally spun it off I also have decided to completely remove the a/c since it's such a pain I'm from DE and don't use it anyway it's great to have like minded folks help out I appreciate it very much.
Hey brotha I was wondering if you could hit me up on Instagram or even on here. I was wondering if you could explain a little more on how you got the radiation out of the car I can’t seem to get it free from the condenser and it’s beginning to be the worst pain of my life
When taking the bolts out of the cylinder blocks, is there a certain order you have to do it in?
I don’t take them out in a certain order. Doesn’t matter when removing. I do like to loosen them all first before completely removing but it doesn’t matter. It does matter what bolts go where though when installing. I believe the driver side forward upper bolt is an Allen head style bolt and slightly shorter for instance if I remember correctly
Hey will, do you know what size puller is required for the harmonic balancer? I see online there are options for 3,4,6,8 inch for at least one style I was looking at. Thanks!
I’m not going to lie to you lol I used one of the 3 jaw pullers from the local parts store. There were little tabs on the balancer and the hooks fit right in there and worked, that’s what I use for all my LS stock balancers because they all have those tabs in most cases. I’m sure there is. Specific sized puller you can use but I’m not sure exactly what size is the one you’d need.
@@GetItAtWiLL thank you for the reply! Your video is awesome. Definitely feel like I could give this a shot after watching your video a couple times!
How is the daily drivability with this cam? Does it sacrifice bottom end torque?
Drivability is great. However this is a manual so I’m not sure how it would be with an auto. But it’s easy to drive pretty much like stock. Also I haven’t noticed any bottom end torque problems. She pretty much gained throughout the graph.
Can anyone tell me how to get the chain off and then back on with pump and pan still on? Video blanks out. I attempted to use the screwdrivers but it doesn’t stretch that much. Pin is in on tensioner.
do you use fuel additive regularly or just normal fuel? cylinders look good after those mileage
No, no extra additives. However the eng was replaced inter warranty by Chevrolet when he first got the car because of a piston failure so the eng does only have about 25k on it as opposed to the car’s 45k miles
Can u buy all that stuff together to put in a 2018 2ss camaro how much did it all cost looking at modifying mine
We got everything through Texas Speed. They have packages so it’ll be everything you need and options to leave things out of you don’t. I think the valve spring compressor tool was the only thing I bought separate but it still came from Texas Speed if I remember correctly. They have everything you need and most other places provide packages as well
@@GetItAtWiLL thanks for telling me I appreciate it because I'm looking into building one of my own when I get the money up
Is the harmonic balancer bolt reverse threaded on the gen 6.
Thanks
Joe
Joe Supina no sir. Normal lefty loosy righty tighty style lol
A shop would probably charge 3-5k for doing this. You think that’s ridiculous or is it just me.
Chris Dare depends on how they doing it. Some shops will drop the cradle or may take the eng out from what I heard but it’s def not necessary. 5k is too much I could see 3 if it included parts & labor. 5k for me. Naw. But I mean you prob also get some type of warranty
@@GetItAtWiLLfunny seeing this now, dealer quotes 8k and speed shops 5-6k. Yeah I’ll do it myself thanks to helpful people like you posting “how-to” videos 😂
Hello. I have watched your two videos a couple of times now. Thanks for doing this for people to follow that has never worked on the LT1 before. We have everything tore down but for some reason can not get the balancer bolt to break loose. My impact and compressor must not have enough power. I have a 2016 1SS with a manual transmission. Any thoughts or ideas?
Chad Ennis yea the can be a b***h sometimes. I’d try a big cheater bar. I used a breaker bar and they took the pipe from the floor jack and put on the end of that to get as much leverage as possible. You can try to heat the balancer some but I don’t believe it does much since the threads are actually in the crank. Get as long a breaker as you can find or make and try that. If it doesn’t seem to be working switch back and forth between that and the impact sometimes one may loosen it just enough for the other to work.
@@GetItAtWiLL right. I have a very long breaker bar I bought last year. I am also hearing apply heat. I have everything disconnected but can not get the radiator out. The bottom corners of the radiator our to wide with the round rubber cushions on them to fit between the frame to slide up and out.
Chad Ennis did you get the bottom corner bolts out of the shroud connecting it to the radiator. I had the same issue but there is a bolt at the very bottom on each outer side of the radiator that the should uses to bolt to the radiator. I had to get under the car and kindve look from the front outer sides of the radiator to find them
@@GetItAtWiLL yes. The radiator and condenser is separated now but no matter which way I try to move the radiator those lower corners catch on the frame.
Chad Ennis I’m looking through the pictures now. It looks like you have everything disconnected from what I can see. If that’s the case you’re just going to have to work the angles and do some wiggling and it should come out
Did you pull the motor to pull the chain off
Marlon Tyson no didn’t pull the motor. I did loosen the oil pump bolts for a little more slack to get the timing chain off. Once you do that you can walk it off without too much trouble.
This might be a dumb question but is that all you need for a cam? I thought you needed more? Still new to this mod world lol
ThatAlphaCamaro besides normal hand tools and stuff like torque wrenches that should be it. We got this kit from Texas Speed and their kits come with everything cam wise. Only extra we had to order was the DoD delete kit and the fuel lash cap and I’m pretty sure the cam package page references this in additional things you need. I put the website links in the description
Nice , last question, what would I need other thing that? Like headers exhaust etc.
ThatAlphaCamaro you don’t “need” anything else persay but to take full advantage of the power gains you’ll want headers and a nice flowing exhaust. Heads and intake would be nice as well to help get as much air in the cylinders as possible for combustion. But he ran this car with the cam on stock manifolds and cats for a few months. With only a cold air intake and MBRP axle backs. Still noticeable gains.
GetItAt_WiLL that answers my question! Thank you so much!!
ThatAlphaCamaro no prob I’ll do my best to answer them if I can.
How'd you get that bottom clip driver side out of the radiator
David Gruhn I believe I had to get under the car and get it from under the radiator on the side. That one gave me a few issues if i think we talking about the same one. But try it from under
@@GetItAtWiLL alright thanks that thing is a pain
did tou still half to do a tune or no or do you just use diablo tuner
Definitely took it to a tuner. I used HP Tuners to give it a base tune to get it around, do some logging and get it to the shop safely but afterwards it was tuned fully by a professional.
@@GetItAtWiLL o ok cool good info
What length pushrods are you running?
john derryberry 7.85 in.
What’s a good cam for a daily camaro ss?
Rey Dominic Luciano I like running Texas Speed’s cams. But what is your camaro a new gen running the LT or a prior gen running the LS. Also is it auto or manual?
So those metal tabs on the side of the radiator is what holds it to the ac condenser? Or is there something else that’s holding them together?
Kenneth Harrison the tabs and if I remember correctly their is a bolt on the bottom of each corner(front side). That was the most annoying part of this whole job lol
GetItAt_WiLL I got it out and now see why you said it’s a pita in the video. I just need to get the shroud off on the driver side and then I can move the condenser out the way like you did. I don’t even want to put the shroud back in lol
Kenneth Harrison listen that damn shroud lol. It’s like everything was connecting to that thing somehow. 😂😂. Like why GM
Any major differences with the lt4? I want to cam my zl1 as well seems like a big job
kevin farantino is the zl1 dry sump?
@@GetItAtWiLL didnt even see this sorry for the late response. To be honest I do not know off hand. How would I determine that? From the oil pan depth?
kevin farantino the oil pan would be shorter but you should know because there will be an oil reservoir under the hood to store the oil since it’s not in the oil pan.
@@GetItAtWiLL ok so then no there is none of that in the engine bay no reservoir
kevin farantino nope It may have only been the high end vette that had the dry sump. If you have a dipstick going to your eng oil pan then you’re good
How did you know what length pushrods to get?
On 3 there is a tool you can use to measure however I knew for this setup the 7.850” was fine. In most cases I’ve had no issue using the stock length pushrods. But that was based on my setup
GetItAt_WiLL you think for a N/A custom grind cam I can keep the stock pushrods? Or does the cam lobe things affect the length of the pushrods also
On 3 It’ll depend on your cam but in most cases a 7.850” should be fine (on a new gen LT1 that is, at least in the camaros. Now if you messing with different rockers and or heads. Things like that then I’d def check. The pushrod length checker is pretty cheap. But if you are just doing a cam I think you’ll be fine HOWEVER lol I’m not saying this is correct. You’ll def want to upgrade to hardened pushrods regardless if you’re doing cam and springs.
@@GetItAtWiLL sounds good brother thank you👍
How much you charge to install a cam
Big Jay Trucker it’ll depend on the car. I haven’t really taken money for any of these jobs. They were all close friends and let me use their cars for content.
GetItAt_WiLL I need help with doing my 2018 Camaro ss m6
Big Jay Trucker where you located
Augusta ga
Big Jay Trucker man if you would’ve cause me when I was living in GA. I’m on the west now but I won’t be free free until next year due to a bunch of training. But hit me up on IG GetItAt_WiLL . And I may be able to help out I’m from Columbia, SC so my family still there so I may be able to do something on a visit back home. It’s weird times rn but we can discuss it
Are those lifters ls7 style lifters?
Yes. They came with the kit. Delphi LS7 style lifters. 28-25341990 is the part # on Texas Speeds website
@@GetItAtWiLL have you had any issues ? I recently order a cam for my 2017 camaro ss , based on your video lol im going to use this video to help me swap it but those lifters came with it and ive been seeing on forums people having issues , hows yours holding up?
@@andresmedina2827 no issues. Been running like a champ
@@GetItAtWiLL right on bro thanks ! Still waiting on my cam , got everything else lol
@@andresmedina2827 if I can help in anyway feel free to hit me up. I’ll do my best to answer any questions
Would this be the same as on the 8 speed automatic?
Joey S I am pretty sure the general basics are the same I haven’t done an automatic so I can’t be 100% but the only thing I could see being different is maybe the placement of some hoses or something like that. They are both DoD type engines so I’d think everything would be the same
I’m having trouble getting the radiator out. I need to replace it and I’m stuck on how to remove it. I already disconnected some of the hoses and lines.
Man that radiator is the hardest part of this whole process. It’s in that plastic shroud and plastic side tray like things. You have to get all those clips undone and get it separated from that and at the very bottom on each corner were two screws that were kind’ve hidden that were the last parts securing it to the plastic for me. Took me a while to find them.
@@GetItAtWiLL thank you man ! How did you remove those metal clips things ? With a trim remover ??
@@kevinmacias114 yea that and a combination of screwdrivers and picks. I just did whatever I could they were a real pain in the butt. It took me a while. Just go slow when you’re trying to pull it out if it’s really fighting you there’s prob a clip or something somewhere that’s still in. But once those are done it should pretty much come right out
@@GetItAtWiLL thank you so much 💪🤙